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Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus from $61,425 Delivered + On Road Costs (Was $64,425 + On Road Costs) @ Tesla

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Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus from $61,425 Delivered + On Road Costs (Was $64,425 + On Road Costs) @ Tesla
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nxllson on 10/07/2021 - 09:30 tesla.com (12333 clicks)
Last edited 28/07/2021 - 18:05 by 2 other users

Tesla have once again done us all proud by slashing the price of the Model 3’s.

Standard Range Plus $59,900 (was $62,900)
Long Range $73,400 (was $77,900)
Performance $84,900 (was $93,900)

Prices above exclude on-road costs (varying per state)
and Tesla’s mandatory $1375 delivery fee + $150 ordering fee.

The Tesla Corporate Program will waive a further $1375 on delivery fees.

This is a record-breaking year for Model 3 deliveries and Australia still have more ships coming from Shanghai.

Drive-Away Prices with State Discounts on the SR+:

VIC: $61,968
NSW (starting 1 Sep): $59,473

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          • Grok on 11/07/2021 - 13:25

            @[Deactivated]: The M3 only has to come down in price by $9,473 to meet the criteria I predicted.

            Not a big ask, Tesla could introduce new models and go upmarket if they want, the M3 is sort of their “people’s car”

            The 3 series and C class cars will have to fend for themselves in a new world order, they know this hence this pronouncement I suspect.

            Board member says BMW to cut production cost per vehicle by 25%

            https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/board-…

    • fchis on 11/07/2021 - 00:46

      Model 2 hatch $25,000USD WITHOUT subsidy is coming in 2-3 years.

      • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 01:27
        +1

        Literally pure speculation. Tesla has released zero details on this. The just said there would be a Chinese designed/built car.

        • fchis on 11/07/2021 - 10:51

          Not really, he said it in 2008 a Tesla cost less than 30,000 USD is his ultimate goal.

          https://www.engadget.com/2008-06-30-tesla-motors-elon-musk-p…

          But it didn't happen in 2012. However, a sub 30k tesla will definitely become a reality if they want to compete with VW's cheapest EV.

          • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 11:12

            @fchis: You know that $USD30,000 in 2008 is $USD36,000 in 2020. In 2020 Tesla did have the Model 3 SR available for order, for $USD35,000. I believe it's stopped production now, but it existed.

            • fchis on 11/07/2021 - 13:37

              @[Deactivated]: I understand your point but if Tesla wants to grow bigger and become competitive in this game, EVs at current Corolla price point will inevitably happen. People said led tv wouldn't cost less than $1000 back then when I said it will happen in a year didn't believe me but hey when big auto manufacturers are also in this EV game, I can foresee 20k AUD price tag will come at any time. And I predict this will happen in 2024.

              • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 13:50

                @fchis: Lol ok. Very strong LED TV argument. Did you learn to be a soothsayer, or did it get passed down? Also, I'd like to speak to these 'people'.

                • fchis on 11/07/2021 - 15:48

                  @[Deactivated]: You don't have to agree with me but just wait and see it for yourself. The information that i've gathered so far is enough for my prediction. And I posted this sub 1000$ led scenario on this website too. You can search it yourself.

                  • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 15:49

                    @fchis: Its not about agreeing with you or not, you're just speaking shit.

                    • fchis on 11/07/2021 - 15:50
                      -1

                      @[Deactivated]: You speak shit yourself.

                      • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 15:51

                        @fchis: Oh, what a burn. Did you gather sufficient information on that do justify it?

      • Grok on 11/07/2021 - 13:27

        I’m in.

      • eccles30 on 12/07/2021 - 10:55

        That would break the S3XY naming scheme.

  • mickyb80 on 11/07/2021 - 00:44
    -1

    Is Elon throwing in a solar charger yet?
    Or will I need to head to Bunnings and dust off the cobwebs to get the credit card out for one of these?

    https://www.bunnings.com.au/projecta-12v-1-5w-portable-solar…

    So do the trick, right?

    • ialam99 on 11/07/2021 - 17:11

      You can try this trailer. It adds ~40km/day from solar power.

      https://www.caradvice.com.au/857567/solar-powered-tesla-mode…

      • mickyb80 on 11/07/2021 - 17:39

        Ha!

        Sad now… Technology hasnt yet kept up with my (pre covid) Hume Hwy Melb-Syd runs… Even with a stop over in Alb/Wod - can't make the Alb/Wod - Syd leg.

        Knew there was a reason I picked up keys to a dirty/smelly car in Jan…

        Maybe one day!

        • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 18:57

          You can do it today in a Model S. It has 600km+ freeway range.

          • mickyb80 on 11/07/2021 - 19:54

            @[Deactivated]: I'd be cautious of the reality in practice of this… last time I looked (granted it was a few months back and I can't remember all the details but…) I'd have needed to drive sub 110km/h and without the AC on or headlights etc. to even come close according to the calc at the calculator.

            Still too close for my liking without the ability to have a fuel/charge stop in under 15 mins to finish off the trip. Range anxiety 101 here…!

            While I fly move of the time (pre C-19)… When driving, I pack, get in the seat, then on the motorway and set cruise. No stop between the Albury/Sydney leg… (not recommended for those that need a break/rest of course).

            Hopefully, sometime in the coming 18-24 months a Volvo, Merc, or the likes will have something capable of doing this, and that's not a Tesla, then I'd reconsider. Just my point of view. Not a big fan of Tesla's quality at all.

            One day it will happen - I have no doubt at all!

            For those that the current tech and concept are suitable for - I'm all for it!

            • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 20:30

              @mickyb80: You can make 600km at 110kmh with the AC on in the Model S. And that's the old model, the new model is more efficient, better built, faster and more luxurious.

              You don't need 600km anyway, Sydney to Albury is 550km on the Hume, not a problem to cover that distance. Rated range is something like 650km, but that would be tough at highway speed (in the old model at least).

              Volvo has no shot at that kind of range. They don't have anything in the pipeline and their current designs are not efficient. Mercedes releases the EQS this year, which will have the range (but you'll pay for it, looking like at least $300k starting price, for the slow one).

              And nothing is better than Tesla autopilot of the freeway. Nothing is even close.

              • mickyb80 on 11/07/2021 - 20:50

                @[Deactivated]: Fair enough - I was in at Tesla mid last year before ordering the last/current Merc and they, themselves admitted the various models (at the time) would not be suitable.

                Glad to hear they have perhaps come another step.

                Tesla Autopilot - isn't it a joint Tesla/Mercedes development…?
                Had it out on a test drive last year, and I wasn't that impressed, to be honest. when it worked, it seemed good, but it did fail a few times. While the Merc autopilot lacked 1 or 2 of the features, it just simply seemed to do the job and did its well.

                Again, dealers choice as the saying goes.

                See where EV cars are in another 18/24 months for me…

                • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 21:05
                  -1

                  @mickyb80: Last year's Tesla Model S is the latest Model S. The 2022 Model S wont be here till the end of next year (it's available in the US now). You can't buy the 2021 Model S now, as it was EOL last year, but it started at about $150k. Unless you are talking abou a Model 3, which is not suitable, it has max 500km range, that's a much cheaper car.

                  Tesla autopilot is absolutely not a Tesla/Mercedes development. It is entirely in house, and it is considerably more advanced than anything Mercedes or anyone else has. It works much better, and the car has full awareness of it's surroundings (which the Mercedes doesn't have). Tesla autopilot also learns and is update regularly over the air. Mercedes lane holding isn't even remotely close to Tesla autopilot in performance and functionality.

                  • mickyb80 on 11/07/2021 - 21:37
                    +1

                    @[Deactivated]: Do you work for Tesla? lol…

                    The comments I've noted are from my experiences and those which followed 3 discussions and visits to Tesla last year (as mentioned). I wanted to want one but it just didn't fit the bill.

                    You can try to push the concept - but at present, it is not one for me. My experience from the Autopilot was NOT what it has been pitched as. It simply didn't work well the 2 times I was test driving Model X last year. The lane change almost had the car end up in the side of another passing car when the dealer was trying to demo. So not sure that it's quite as ready (at that time) as it should be. Advanced, sure, but perhaps remained a bit buggy at the time. It may have been a setting, I don't know.

                    Either way, it didn't get me to part with my money.

                    I found the Merc system 'just did what it was meant to do' and didn't promise or claim anything that it couldn't prove. It may be shy of 1 or 2 features of the Tesla system (perhaps 'less advanced' as you say), but it did what I expected.

                    (I'd thought Merc and Tesla had co-developed the system to some degree, but I'm happy to admit if I'm wrong and that's not the case. Having said that, there is plenty of other Merc parts used in building a Tesla.)

                    I was hoping to order something other than another Merc/AMG, but in the end, that's the way I went.

                    (I also say this, having owned a few Mercs with BIG autopilot issues in earlier models, but won't get into details - no point old tech).

                    I'm not dismissing the Tesla as a concept or product, rather presenting my experience to date, which has not been one that's given me a reason to move (yet). I've driven earlier Tesla's overseas over the years, so this is by no means a one-off or the likes. Friends that own Tesla's have mentioned various problems they have experienced also and the customer services not being as expected for a $100k+ car.

                    Thanks for the convo, but as I said, i'll see what the market looks like in 18-24months when it's time to consider the next drive.

                    • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 22:58

                      @mickyb80: Whichever Mercedes dealer told you that Mercedes co developed autopilot with Tesla is completely full of shit. Tesla uses 8 cameras surrounding the car to create a 360 degree cloud point visualisation of its surrounding. It uses a custom Tesla silicon dual redundancy ASIC computer which is considerably more powerful than anything else currently on the road, and substantially more efficient than anything planned. With the latest V9 beta software it can literally drive you autonomously on all roads. Its 10 years ahead of anything Mercedes has. Intact Mercedes recently dissolved their autonomy partnership with BMW because it wasn't going anywhere.

                      • mickyb80 on 11/07/2021 - 23:29

                        @[Deactivated]: No dealer told me that it was co-dev. Not sure where you drew that from within my previous posts. It was something I thought, but I don't know why or where I recall the thought coming from. Nothing was stated about anyone from any dealership telling me so. Nice conclusion on your part though.

                        It's clear you are very Pro Tesla and I congratulate you on your passion. No need to take to a platform such as this to push your opinion or views on to others that perhaps haven't had such a positive experience from the brand or product. (I see you have been very vocal on this story with others as well).

                        I believe Tesla is not the only one that designs their cars with 8 or so cameras. With the various driving aids in the Mercedes, it is more than enough for my requirement. Regardless of the ability to 'fully become autonomous' at this current stage, I don't see much difference in what is currently offered between the two or the 'on road' experience. This is my experience.

                        I've driven plenty of Tesla's over the past and my experience has been consistent. I've also driven many other brands and each (just like Tesla and Mercedes) have their pro's and con's regardless of their product offerings.

                        With that… Once again, it's been an interesting chat. In whatever capacity you are involved with Tesla, I'm glad you have enjoyed your experience. I'll continue to enjoy the various toys in my garage (currently not including a Tesla).

                        I'll need to break out the popcorn if we keep going any further with this discussion I suspect…

                        Enjoy the last half hour of your weekend and all the best for your week ahead!

                        Stay well!

                        (Heading out of this one… getting a bit boring)…Ha!

                        • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 23:59
                          -1

                          @mickyb80: Statement of facts is not opinion. You seem to be confusing your opinion with facts, and reject actual facts, because they don't fit your narrative. You're not the only one who has driven and owned many other brands.

                          • mickyb80 on 12/07/2021 - 00:58
                            -1

                            @[Deactivated]: Really wasn't going to both with this. But, your comment and justification is like saying "just because someone is Vegan or Vegetarian and may not eat meat means you are unhealthy by default" or the flip, in that because one eats meat, then they are unhealthy for doing so.

                            I have an opinion, I have my own experience, and the result is X. As for whatever reason, as is yours. No harm there.

                            You have voiced your opinion and point from a design perspective and so on which is fine also.

                            While a fact maybe that MB and Tesla may not have co-developed the autopilot, which I am happy to stand corrected on and admit in such event of being wrong, does not mean, your words are accurate or stand as fact in that the autopilot from Tesla is better 'for me' or in practice.

                            Sorry, but I believe you may want to recheck the meaning of 'opinion' and 'fact' and re-read what's been written above. I also note, your commentary is somewhat directed in a passive aggressive manner, not only towards me, however, after reading other posts towards other members, it's rather concerning.

                            Please feel free, should you wish and have the last word as I suspect this is more important to you than actually considering anyone else's opinion or commentary that may be different to yours. Welcome to the internet and a forum I guess! lol…

                            I wish you all the best…

  • danieroo on 11/07/2021 - 01:50
    +1

    does anyone know if the $3000 EV cash back has reached its limit yet?

    • jayzwalker on 11/07/2021 - 16:02
      +1

      Not yet. Still available

      • catboy123 on 13/07/2021 - 12:10

        Where can you check?

        • jayzwalker on 14/07/2021 - 09:41

          Configure/select a Tesla from their website and then go to the finance section and it should show the 3k discount.

          • catboy123 on 14/07/2021 - 11:33

            @jayzwalker: Ah, would it be showing for NSW yet or just VIC atm?

            • jayzwalker on 16/07/2021 - 14:35

              @catboy123: Should show up for both - you select State before it shows the price

              • catboy123 on 16/07/2021 - 17:02

                @jayzwalker: Hmm strange, when i click VIC it shows the -$3000 subsidy but with NSW it doesnt come up

                • ballistykx on 16/07/2021 - 21:33

                  @catboy123: Starting September 1st I believe in NSW.

                  • catboy123 on 16/07/2021 - 21:48

                    @ballistykx: Ah yes, but I heard of people placing an order for delivery after 1 September to get the subsidy

  • timbertron on 11/07/2021 - 09:22
    +1

    Tesla are just trying to take away the weekend!

    • bradenpd on 11/07/2021 - 13:37
      +1

      And yet mine has made my weekends better.

  • Wing Nut on 11/07/2021 - 10:33
    +8

    It slightly amuses me when someone who's never experienced an EV, and especially a Tesla, announces it to be useless for all because it takes hours to charge, can't tow, lacks range, recycling issues, etc. I suspect they read something back in 2010 and keep repeating it down the pub until it's regarded as a current suite of facts.

    I've done several interstate trips in our Model 3 LR and never felt so relaxed at the end of a 1000km day. With 3x ~35min charging stops that coincide nicely with meal/loo breaks, an autopilot, comfy seat and a quiet cabin, it was an easy, inexpensive drive. Plug in to 11kW at home for a quick overnight off-peak recharge, or wait until morning and top it up on sunshine or down at the supermarket for free while grocery shopping. Unlike living with an ICE car, you don't normally run it flat and then 'fill it up' unless on a trip.

    As current fast charging stations (Superchargers, Chargefox/NRMA, Evie, Jolt, etc) increase in number and in charge speeds (250 - 350kW), en-route charging stops are becoming more rushed (10 - 20min), with little time to order and finish a meal or linger over a coffee.

    • PGee on 11/07/2021 - 10:59
      +4

      It's hard to convince people of things they have already decided on. Unfortunately electric cars are in the same realm as anti-vaxxers and trumpites. Driven by fear. People just can't be bothered to reflect on their own situation rather than the what if scenario. Hence so many 4x4 Ute's gets sold on the off chance the bunnings Ute is out of action and they won't be able to bring that large thing home

    • ialam99 on 11/07/2021 - 17:18
      +3

      Someone i know made a really good anology. Moving from ICE to EV is like moving from a nokia with 5 day battery to a smart phone with barely 24 hours of battery. People will complain about it initially but will fall in love with the smart phone features and just learn to charge it every night. EVs will be no different.

    • PGee on 11/07/2021 - 10:59
      +8

      If you keep reposting this, does it become more true?

      • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 11:00
        -8

        Just love watching the TOSLA sales reps down vote the links to try and hide the truth about their rubbish cars

      • bort on 12/07/2021 - 14:41
        +1

        I dont think he understands that we have 240v in Australia …

  • bondi on 11/07/2021 - 11:09
    +1

    I would not mind to buy Tesla for my second car and use it for daily traveling. I had installed solar panels on my roof last year and produced enough electricity for my daytime house usage and also sold back to grid for some credit. So I think the charging is not a problem for me in my house. But a few questions to Tesla expert if anyone could answer please:
    I am a bit worried about the battery usage and sufficient after one year or two years, it certainly will drop from its 100% charging capacity. I had a electricity car 4 years ago and after driven one year, the battery charge would only go up to 85%to max charge capacity and mileage came down from 260kms full charged to 160 kms. In the second year and half, the battery just died and car went back to dealer and waited 3 months for replaced a new battery. It was still in manufacture warranty. Anyway that brand of ev car is not very reliable.

    Now I am looking into Tesla and hoping these sorts of things would not repeat to myself. I knew ev car is our future soon or late everyone would have to use this technology. I am living outskirts of city and 50kms from city center, so I think I need 150-200kms daily mileage if I am out home for the day. (Not counting travel to other cities) weekly mileage around 1000-1200kms, which brand of Tesla should I get? Would Tesla dealer set up a free charging station at my home for 3 phases power box?

    • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 11:15
      +1

      Tesla is the brand. And Tesla will not set up a free charging station at your house. LOL.

      • bondi on 11/07/2021 - 12:27

        What I meant was model, any suggestions?

        • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 12:35
          +1

          A base Model 3 would be fine for your use case. It really depends on your budget. The more expensive cars are better.

          • bondi on 11/07/2021 - 13:36

            @[Deactivated]: Budget is not too much of concern. I am more concerned for the battery efficiency than luxury in setting in the car. What specification for Standard battery compared with long range battery. All they all use the same battery but tune in differently?

            • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 13:57
              +1

              @bondi: No. You don't tune a battery.

              All the information you want is online, all you need to do is google.

              If you don't understand batteries, you're best to stay away from technical details.

              All you need to know is range.

              An SR+ gets a max range of about 400km, and a practical range of about 370km (you don't tend to run the batteries to zero)

              A LR has a different batter chemistry and gets about 520km max and probably just under 500km in practice.

              The ranges I am quoting are freeway ranges at 100kmh. If you go to 110kmh, the ranges do drop a fair bit, knock off 50km.

              If you want real range the Model S for $160k ish will get around 600km real world range. But that wont arrive here till the end of 2022 as demand in the USA is much higher than production.

              • bondi on 12/07/2021 - 09:20

                @[Deactivated]: Thank you for the information. On my previous experience on EO car I would have to choose long range battery as the first preference,and also balance between with price tag $160K?
                To be honest I would like to spend on Q7 or GLE series if that is the case. The technology comes with a cost too dearly.

                • [Deactivated] on 12/07/2021 - 09:40

                  @bondi: I'm not sure what you are saying. But a Long Range Model 3 is under $80k. Its like you wrote that post using Google translate.

    • neostarsx on 11/07/2021 - 21:16

      Do google search for the aussie bloke with 400k kms on his model S.

    • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 11:18
      +6

      Oh you again. TOSLA again. Very good. Very clever. Are you going to address anyone's challenges to your bullshit posts, or are you going to keep posting FUD?

  • dzeikei on 11/07/2021 - 11:15

    This really stings for me since I had mine delivered 3 weeks ago and haven't even really been able to make much use of it due to Sydney lockdown.

    • petry on 11/07/2021 - 11:54

      when a tank rolls over it are you insured for martial law?

      my understanding is, its like zero indemnity for your AZ…

      curious since insurers may also evade through scomo's policy of being touched by god..

    • hashtagbargain on 11/07/2021 - 13:14
      +2

      The third link is for model s, which is not the model 3 in the deal. You have to remember that the model s is a sports car.

      The the last link doesn’t even have the word Tesla anywhere on the whole page.

      Please stop commenting, I think we know your agenda.

      • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 15:02

        The Model S is not a sports car. Its a full sized sedan.

        • hashtagbargain on 11/07/2021 - 17:14

          Oh sorry I had it confused with the roadster

        • kenplho on 12/07/2021 - 17:07
          -1

          The model S goes from 0-100 is 2.7 seconds. A BMW M3 goes from 0-100 in 4.2 secs.

          Some say the BMW M3 is a full sized sedan.

          • [Deactivated] on 12/07/2021 - 17:42
            +1

            @kenplho: Nope. The new Model S does 0-100kmh in 2.1 seconds. That doesn't make it a sports car.

            And no one says the BMW M3 is a full sized sedan. Its a mid sized sports sedan.

            A sports car is a small two seater, often a convertible. Neither the Model S or the M3 are sports cars.

  • icomeforthecomments on 11/07/2021 - 12:35
    +2

    FINALLY some price parity with US. So credit to Tesla. Over the past year, whenever I've commented that Aussies were paying too much, Tesla fanboys would cry me down and give a whole bunch of reasons why we pay more. Irony is that they should know that Telsa's goal is to improve EV penetration and seek to lower prices over time.

    • netjock on 12/07/2021 - 13:30
      +2

      We need model 3 price parity with China. These are MIC model 3s. China price equivalent is just over $50k (250k CNY).

      • icomeforthecomments on 12/07/2021 - 21:11

        I hear you. I think Tesla are doing much better, hence the shoutout. It is my understanding that the Performance model is still coming from the US, so pricing looks pretty much bang on. Chinese cars might incur some import takes which might explain a little bit, but agree it's not quite parity. Heading in the right direction, and as long as people comment and don't drink the cool aid.

        • netjock on 12/07/2021 - 22:22

          Tesla is doing much better thanks to the contributions from buyers. As an indirect shareholder I would like to go on the record to thank them.

  • kuruptz on 11/07/2021 - 12:47

    This price is only for white, guess that doesn't need to be specified.

    Can anyone that owns a Tesla help me out please? My mother is in her 60's, isn't the best with technology but can use an iPhone fine, she is strongly considering the Tesla after seeing this deal. Do you think they are too complicated for someone who isn't exactly tech savy to adjust to? She is definitely a good driver, so that's not a worry. I'll be available to help with any issues at home, but it's more out on the road that concerns me. How different is it?

    • chuq on 11/07/2021 - 13:34
      +3

      Probably two questions here:
      1) The car
      2) The charging process

      1) With the car, I would say easier for most things but some things are quite different to what she'd be used to. I'd advise her to arrange a test drive first to check out the car - if she isn't near a showroom, maybe contact TOCA (Tesla Owners Club of Australia) as they have members everywhere including many regional areas and many would be happy to show off the car, answer questions, do a test drive, etc. Then she'll know if she would be happy with it.

      2a) The charging process at home - so long as she has a garage/driveway with a power point, no problem. Just plug it in each night (or if she's at home and has solar, during the day to use her solar generated energy) Over 8 hours, a standard power point will put in about 120 km of range. Faster options are available if this is not sufficient.

      2b) The charging process on the road - Tesla has the advantage over other EVs in this particular regard. With Tesla superchargers you just pull up, plug in the cable, and that's it. The charger and car communicate and it just starts. When done, unplug, and it bills her automatically (credit card linked with her Tesla account). If doing a longer trip, she just enters the destination on the navigation in the car and if the car needs to charge on the way it will automatically direct her to superchargers at the appropriate time and say how long she needs to charge for to continue (often it's not a full charge, just a top up for 15 minutes or so).

      With other EVs which use public fast charging networks, you often need to use their app or a fob to start the charge. It's not really difficult but the Tesla process is very simple. (Worth noting that Teslas can also use these fast charging networks, should you want multiple options)

      I'm not an owner but have owned a Leaf for several years and recently did an extended test drive (550 km) of a friends Model 3.

      • kuruptz on 14/07/2021 - 15:43

        Thank you so much for this reply, it was incredibly useful. I think you're right, a test drive may be essential in this situation. She has a double garage, with multiple power points so charging isn't an issue at home. Much appreciated mate!

    • bradenpd on 11/07/2021 - 13:36
      +1

      I don't think you have to be tech savvy to use them at all. The interface is very simple. She should definitely go have a test drive and see what she thinks, they're very different to an ICE car.

    • PTS on 11/07/2021 - 16:15
      +2

      I would recommend a Y at this stage, Either that or a Kona, they are both very efficient. Mobility issues tend to creep up when you get older and getting in and out of the 3 can be difficult for older people. Tesla UI is probably the most intuative (see munro live on Youtube for an older persons take on UI with tesla vs the VW). I drive a tesla, my mum owns a Kona, (couldn't wait for a Y and the MG was insufficient range). The fun factor in the Kona is really good, and better in a Y no doubt. Mum took to the Kona really easily (from a CX3) after a few questions, like a duck to water, she'd previously driven the tesla and if your mum can use an iPhone, then tesla is the same boat. My Mum loves the free charging aspect and looking forwards to more very cheap travel when it opens up again…

      • [Deactivated] on 11/07/2021 - 18:59
        +2

        You would be crazy to buy a Kona when you can get a Model 3 for less money.

        • netjock on 12/07/2021 - 13:31

          Why do you think people buy SUVs over sedans. Some good hybrid sedan deals out there but people would pay a lot more for SUV body.

  • burns13 on 11/07/2021 - 14:10
    +9

    I've never understood the hostility and irritation some have when the electric car comes up. Must be afraid of change or something

  • Dhpongelc on 11/07/2021 - 21:35
    -6

    Avoid the Tesla made in Shanghai at all cost.

    • [Deactivated] on 12/07/2021 - 08:36

      Exactly. Why buy a car with a country where Australia / US / UK will soon be at war with

      • netjock on 12/07/2021 - 13:32

        Wouldn't worry it is a bit like iphones. The parts come from all over, it is the poor Chinese who work in factories putting together cars and the excess profits go back to the USA.

        • Dhpongelc on 12/07/2021 - 15:45

          Apple never runs those factories but Tesla runs the factory in Shanghai. The quality of those model 3 made in that factory is the worst in the Tesla fleet.

          • [Deactivated] on 12/07/2021 - 16:35

            @Dhpongelc: I highly doubt China wants a USA car company to be successful. I expect they will first steal all the IP of Tesla, use it to improve their own electric cars, then run Tesla into the ground.

            • Dhpongelc on 12/07/2021 - 23:49

              @[Deactivated]: They're forcing Tesla to hand over the technology not really stealing.

        • wildwild on 13/07/2021 - 16:15

          Mass slavery controlled by the CCP over the remaining 90% non-CCP of the population who don't have a say at gun point.

  • StonedWizard on 12/07/2021 - 09:42
    +2

    For those who one day want to have an EV. This is a great move, even if you don’t like Tesla.

    It puts the model 3 below tax threshold for business purchases and makes it cheaper than Kona EV, Leaf and MX-30.

    In the end this will result in manufacturers being forced to lower prices. I hope as more people move to EV that VW will bring its full range down here and increase competition.

  • paulinspace on 12/07/2021 - 11:38

    I wonder if this posting on ozbargain actually resulted in a single person getting all excited about saving a couple of grand on a really expensive car to the point that they actually went out and purchased one.

    • netjock on 12/07/2021 - 13:35

      Correct. EVs at the moment is only financial sense to those early adopters. If you were to make a serious financial decision you wouldn't. It is exactly the reason why you see a lot of people driving Uber within Hyundai sedans and Toyota hybrids but nobody in a model 3 (doesn't make financial sense even if charging is literally free off your roof).

      • bort on 12/07/2021 - 15:08
        +1

        You can't get that level of performance (acceleration) offered by Tesla cheaper with anything else, so in that respect it makes sense.

        • netjock on 12/07/2021 - 16:25

          You can't get that level of performance (acceleration) offered by Tesla cheaper

          I thought the purpose is to travel from A - B as efficient as possible. Repetitive acceleration / deceleration (especially fast because of energy use) flies in the face of efficiency and the environment.

          Put $30k into the share market goes up by 7%+ pa over the long term. Put it into a Tesla it will decelerate.

          • bort on 12/07/2021 - 22:36

            @netjock: i'm not sure many people would buy with the only requirement to get from A-B as efficiently as possible. everyone would be riding bikes or have the exact same car/moped if that was the case.

            Personally I prefer to enjoy the drive, and the other options for that kind of performance cost substantially more.

            • netjock on 13/07/2021 - 06:15

              @bort:

              i'm not sure many people would buy with the only requirement to get from A-B as efficiently as possible

              Exactly why majority of people don't buy Teslas

        • [Deactivated] on 12/07/2021 - 16:40
          -6

          Straight line acceleration will feel like a gimmick after 2 weeks.

          Speed limit is 60 km/h so where are you going to go with all that torque ?

          Wait I know, the TOLSA repair centre when you Made in China Model 3 breaks down as as TOLSA are the only place that can service an EV.

          • bort on 12/07/2021 - 22:31
            +3

            @[Deactivated]: After 16 months, that acceleration still puts a smile on my face. What experience are you speaking from?

            0-60 is where it shines …

            Apart from a shortly post delivery visit i've not been back to the service centre at all.

            • netjock on 13/07/2021 - 06:17
              -1

              @bort:

              0-60 is where it shines …

              Pointless. An expensive piece of equipment where it is only good at one thing.

              It is also why a standard VW Golf outsells GTIs, it is because 0-100 time has limited appeal vs having cold hard cash.

              • devize on 13/07/2021 - 14:51
                +1

                @netjock: Pointless… in your opinion.

                Some people enjoy driving and find things like 0-100 times appealing. Having access to a higher burst of speed also has positive safety implications. You never know when you might need it.

                • netjock on 13/07/2021 - 15:48
                  -2

                  @devize:

                  positive safety implications

                  You also believe driving an SUV has positive safety implications.

                  Even a slow car is dangerous in the hands of an inexperienced driver. Fools and their money.

                  find things like 0-100 times appealing

                  Mod: Inappropriate statement removed.

                  • devize on 13/07/2021 - 20:19
                    +1

                    @netjock: Sorry I don't recall when I said an SUV has positive safety implications or how that made up statement has anything to do with what I said.

                    Clearly your mind works in a similar way to how you like your cars…slow.

              • bort on 13/07/2021 - 19:26

                @netjock:

                It is also why a standard VW Golf outsells GTIs, it is because 0-100 time has limited appeal vs having cold hard cash

                You make a good point here - people do buy GTIs when they could buy a standard Golf.

                Not sure why you think everyone is in your situation with your values? Some people do have money to spend on things like cars and even performance cars.

                • netjock on 13/07/2021 - 20:03

                  @bort:

                  Not sure why you think everyone is in your situation with your values?

                  I don't know why you think I'm not a billionaire living in a $50k prefab home.

                  • bort on 13/07/2021 - 20:34
                    -1

                    @netjock: i'd be confident saying you aren't.

                    • netjock on 13/07/2021 - 21:12

                      @bort: I'd be confident you know nothing about who I am.

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