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Toshiba 16TB MG Series Enterprise 3.5" Storage, 6 Gbit/s, 7200 RPM, 5 Yr Warranty $589.49 + Delivery ($0 w/ Prime) @ Amazon UK

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cheapest enterprise drive I have seen.

Toshiba 16TB MG Series Enterprise 3.5 Inch SATA Internal Hard Drive. Mainstream Server and Storage, Hyperscale and Cloud Storage, 6 Gbit/s, 7200 RPM, 5 Year Warranty (MG08ACA16TE)

3.5" SATA Hard Drive
24/7 operation
5-year warranty
Toshiba Stable Platter Technology
Persistent Write Cache technology, 550 TB/year workload
Compatible devices: Desktop

Capacity: 16TB Speed: 7,200RPM Interface Types: SATA Form Factor: 3.5inx1.0in LFF Hard Drive Sector Size: 512 / 512e Electrical Interface: SATA 600 - 6.0Gbps On-Board Cache: 512MB Using an industry-leading 9-disk design pioneered by Toshiba, the MG08 Series provides 16TB of conventional magnetic recording (CMR) capacity and 7,200 rpm performance. The industry-standard .5-inch form-factor integrates easily into cloud-scale storage infrastructure, business-critical servers and storage, and File and Object storage solutions. Toshiba’s precision industrial laser welding technology is put to use to seal helium inside the 9-disk mechanics. The massive 16TB capacity is delivered using proven CMR recording technology providing optimum application compatibility and data reliability. the MG08 Series models integrate easily into standard 3.5-inch drive bays to help reduce the footprint and operational burden of cloud-scale storage infrastructure, and business critical servers and storage systems.

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  • “Mainstream server and storage”… any issues with using this in a home Plex computer?

    • +3

      likely loud and hot but a bargain

      • For oldschool enterprise, sure; but that would be very uncommon for Helium drive.
        What makes you say that?

        • 7200rpm in general runs very hot in an Australian summer.

          • @samfisher5986: I've been quite lucky, mine manage to stay within the recommended operatng temp of <55*c
            I can imagine if you were working them hard in the peak of the day they'd climb though.

            Working in data centres though, most helium drives run 7-10*c cooler than their non helium bretheren, so Im genuinely curious to see what these run at.

    • Nah it'll be fine

    • Functional equivalent of the Seagate Exos x16s as they are loud/noisy also. Enterprise assume the drive will be operating in a server environment where acoustics isn't an issue.

      • I guess it's circumstantial. Even 1 room away I can't hear modern enterprise drives. Helium just makes it even better.
        Unlike the old 8MB drive in my Apple-II, I can literally hear that at the other end of the house.

        • Throw a bunch of them into a Raid array and you'll have no problem hearing them chattering away throughout the course of the day.

          • @BargainKen: Fair, i only use ZFS mirrors anymore. Raid stopped making sense for me when 12TB drives became affordable.

      • thanks. I've got an Exos 16TB and it's fine. Will get this one as well

  • Can these be used for security recording?

    • +5

      enterprise HDD are designed to be run 24/7 with high rewrite endurance. So I supposed it will work well for security recording. A bit over kill.

    • +1

      Should be fine.

  • Great find! Just bought one.
    Thanks for sharing

  • +1

    Shipped from the UK.
    Any chance that it could be dead on arrival?
    Amazon UK don't always packaging items securely. They opted for the light and cheap approach.

    • anything is possible. That's why you need to test the drive and have backups

      • +1

        This.

        Always do a full surface scan on any mechanical drive you buy, as soon as you receive it. If the drive has issues, you want to find out (and get it replaced) before you fill it with data !

  • +8

    Cheaper here? https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/toshiba-mg08aca16te-16tb/p/1Z4-000B-00FR7?item=1Z4-000B-00FR7&nm_mc=knc-googleauadwords-global&cm_mmc=knc-googleauadwords-global--hard%20drives--toshiba-_-1Z4000B00FR7&source=region

    • +7

      Yeah just googling the model number brings up at least another couple of cheaper prices too

    • Yep, confirmed!

      • +7

        not sure if a neg is worthy…

        • +10

          According to the voting guidelines it is.

          The deal is not the cheapest available

    • And free shipping too.

  • 2 year ROI for chia farming?

    • +1

      Thought crossed my mind too. I think I would rather have the storage for movies and tv shows vs chia storage

    • Seagate is going to release cheap SMR 20TB HHD for chia very soon..bit luxury to use brand new enterprise HDD for farming at this stage. Also ROI wise PoW (6600XT, 3070/ti) is much better than this one now. though the uncertainty of ETH is a potential risk

      • though the uncertainty of ETH is a potential risk

        I guess there's equal or more uncertainty with XCH

    • that makes the bold assumption Network space stays the same. As drives get cheaper then Network space increases. I would be factoring in 4 years at least.

      • And cost of electricity?

        • +1

          that is usually insignificant with Chia as you are usually farming on your NAS that is already running 24/7. sure if you were putting a machine on just for Chia then this would matter.

      • Learned this the hard way with btc asic. Customs took about 6 weeks because they didnt know what it was? So lots of back and forth and never quick. When I got the customs letter telling me it arrived in Australia I would have made ROI in around 30 hours. by the time I got it that was 2 years not accounting for what the hash rate would actually do when they started selling in larger numbers. I think btc was around 700 usd at the time so I guess I it would have been fine.

    • +4

      That site is known to scam

      • +1

        Ah fair enough.

  • +2

    What's the difference between this and a normal HDD for my home pc. Mainly use it for storage and steam games

    • These are more durable (especially the enterprise NAS drives) and are designed to be constantly written to/read from 24/7 for years. Warranty is typically longer with these drives than say a wd blue you might have.

    • They are generally better quality built for a lot of read/write operations and running 24x7. The downside is as these are expected to be sitting in server rooms they are generally louder than most home PC drives.

    • Note that 4TB SSDs are pretty cheap these days, don't use mechanical drives in your PC unless you really really can't afford enough SSDs, especially for gaming (load times from mechanical drives are bad for some titles).

      • Smidge under $500 for 1 4TB SSD isn't cheap…. especially when a 4TB HDD is a quarter of the price. A $375 premium is quite steep considering it's an upgrade in CPU or GPU.

        • I disagree, under $500 for 4TB of SSD storage that has none of the reliability or performance problems associated with mechanical drives is a pretty good deal.
          Hard drives absolutely have a place for bulk storage - where you draw the line, depends on how much space you actually need.

  • +2

    https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1...

    I mean, the drives were only 4.1 months old (average) but it's a great start. :)

    0 failures of the MG08. I wonder what Q2 will look like. :)

    • +4

      Movies, TV shows, backing up photos………

        • +2

          So… as a former digital hoarder (your words, not mine), you know how easy it can be to accumulate data by way of movies and tv shows, but in the same breath you don't know what someone could possibly use 16tb for? And now because YOU don't want to keep a collection of movies and tv shows, you can't fathom the idea that someone else would want to?

          Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. LOL

          • @wellzi: 16TB would be several thousand movies at high quality. I still don't see why anyone would need that many expect for "digital hoarding". I don't see any contradictions in what I wrote. If you want to store thousands of movies on your hard drives for whatever reason then thats your choice

            • @qvinto: No one NEEDS that much space on a personal level. It’s all about want! :D … and you’re not wrong, but TV is where it’s at and that sh*t destroys storage pools!

            • @qvinto: You realise if you play with any form of encryption, a single rainbow table can be multiple terabytes in size.

              Also, if you're worried about hoarding, creating 1:1 ISO's of all your install media, and entertainment takes up a LOT also. There's 11TB in Stargate alone!

              I for one, enjoy re-watching things ad nauseum for other people. I tend to "watch" a season of a show per day, that is to say, I enjoy having things I've seen before going on, while I'm soldering, or programming, or doing other work.

              For every DVD you want to backup 1:1, thats a MINIMUM of 4.7GB (single layer).

    • +4

      Linux isos…

  • +2

    Seagate Exos X18 18TB Enterprise HDD is $663

  • +8

    Problem is, you think $589.49 for one of these 16TB drives is a deal, but you really should be buying two so you can have a backup drive, so looking at $1178.98…

    • +2

      Just because it's recommended you have two doesn't make it any less of a deal. :)

      • -2

        Problem with your comment is i didn't say it makes it any less of a deal…

        • This is true, you didn't explicitly say it wasn't a deal… but c'mon, let's be realistic, your comment was mighty suggestive. :P

    • Not really, I'd just re-plot if the drive died.

  • Limit of 3 per order or is there low stock? I was hoping to get six drives of this size and this looks like a decent price

  • +6

    You won't be able to RMA this so don't count on the 5 year warranty.

    • Huh?

      • I think he's saying it because it's from Amazon UK and so there is no local warranty?

        • +1

          But you have a right to deal with the seller for warranty. And Amazon UK pay return shipping I thought?

          If that's right, I don't see the problem.

          • @justtoreply: Well I definitely agree and I'm not saying I know what is correct here. I've interpreted it similar to how you have. I am just unsure if the 5 year warranty stands. I mean they are advertising that it does have 5 year warranty, but will it be valid if we buy it from AU?

            • +4

              @shreav: I contacted Amazon AU support about the warranty issue, they will cover the standard 30 days, then the rest is up to Toshiba. Their policy below from their EU site (I assume sales from Amazon UK would be covered by EU policy) I don't have a great deal of purchases through Amazon…….

              https://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/eu/storage/support/warra...

              For Individual Customers
              If you have a defective Toshiba Hard Disk Drive and you wish to claim for warranty, you have to distinguish between the two following possibilities:

              1.If the Toshiba Storage Product was installed in another device (e.g. PC, laptop, Non-Toshiba branded external housing , MP3 player, etc.) when purchased, then it can only be repaired by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for information on the repair procedure.

              2.If you bought the Toshiba Hard Disk Drive from a shop, then guarantee claims can only be made with the shop which sold you the drive. The contents of the guarantee comply with the legal regulations in the country, in which the product was purchased.

              In Case of Toshiba Portable External Hard Disk Drives, please visit
              http://www.toshiba.eu/innovation/generic/external_hard_drive...

              Toshiba does NOT provide a direct repair service for anyone other than our OEM customers. It is not possible to make claims directly to Toshiba in cases of possible defects. Therefore you should NEVER send a defective drive to Toshiba representatives, because they cannot process this type of transaction!

              Please contact our Support Hotline if you need more information.

              I have cancelled my Toshiba order, after calling Seagate and confirming their warranty coverage. I have now ordered the X18's instead, worked out $0.05 cheaper per TB then Toshiba's!

              • @reggyralfs: There's also these: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08KY4P7L5.

                Not quite at the same standard as these Toshibas, but…

              • @reggyralfs: Is Seagate warranty coverage better? Worldwide?

                • @BadBargain: I would advise you to check on that yourself, but the person I spoke to advised me that it was.

                  • @reggyralfs: Seagate website

                    Warranty service is provided only when your product is returned to an authorized return center in the region where the product was first shipped by Seagate.

                    But I haven't returned any imported drive so don't really know. If the coverage is worldwide I might consider purchasing import drive in future

              • @reggyralfs: Australian law. The warranty is valid, albeit through the seller.

                So after 30 days it seems likely we'll pay postage to UK. Don't know what that costs, but doesn't seem like a big deal.

      • Toshiba don't do Hard Drive warranties - you can't send the drive to them for replacement like you can with WD/Seagate.

        So you can only arrange warranty replacement via the seller - in this case Amazon. That may work out fine, and it may not - either way, it's not a "real" warranty like Seagate and WD provide.

        • +3

          It does indeed work fine with amazon. Been through it multiple times.

          Its their real point of difference in the market imo.

          They will often give you the wrong advice, because their call centre is international; but you remind them you're in AU and they send you a return label.

    • +2

      RMA for my Samsung SSD from Amazon had to be shipped to the USA and replacement sent to Australia - at my expense. Amazon return policy was only 30 days.

  • damn I would need 5 of these for my NAS… Raid 5, 64 TB… drool…. too rich for my blood.

    • You need another 64TB somewhere to backup all that stuff if it is important or you simply don't need RAID if it's not.
      Either way RAID5 is the thing of the past and causes way more issues than solves.

    • You'd raid6 or raidZ2 with that much space.

      Much over 8TB drives and the chance of failure during rebuild starts to climb dramatically; especially since they'd be from the same batch.

      I just ordered 4 to make 2 mirrored vdev's which ill put into my existing pool.

      Rainbowtables take a lot of space; and my work is testing encryption quite often. Stupid giant tables… at least the translink "GoCard" table is only 1TB.

  • +1

    i dont know about toshiba. my 4tb hdd just blew and its 2 months out of warranty. i didnt even use it that often, about 2tb was free space. cant even contact toshiba directly in australia. and CPL refused to help me out as its out of warranty

    • you just save me a possible headache. I almost bought this thing

      • Its quite normal for devices to last their warranty period, and a shop to refuse warranty, if it has none. Id wager the headache you're trying to avoid would be similar with any brand.

    • +3

      That's just normal behaviour for hard drives - they all fail one day. Could be tomorrow, could be 9 years from now.

      Replace the drive, restore your backup, and move on. You'll have to do the same thing again in the future 👍

      If you're only using 2TB of space, then replace it with an SSD - don't use a mechanical drive again unless you have to.

      • Heh. Let's revisit this comment in a few years when we all curse ssd's (actually hopefully we're over that hump.. but we're not yet with nvme)

        • Whilst they definitely fail less than mechanical drives, they still fail 😁
          You still need a backup, and the same rules still apply !

          • @Nom: Data recovery is a lot harder on SSDs. When they start slowing down and glitching out replace is asap. Sadly, I know from experience.

  • i got the 12tb for $400 a few weeks ago from Amazon.
    seems a decent drive

  • How noisy is this compared to Ironwolf? I plan to uses this with synology NAS on our living room to watch movies on Plex

  • if they could ban hard drive/storage mining i would be happy

    i just want storage space at reasonable prices and in stock

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