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Toshiba 16TB MG Series Enterprise 3.5" Storage, 6 Gbit/s, 7200 RPM, 5 Yr Warranty $589.49 + Delivery ($0 w/ Prime) @ Amazon UK

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Toshiba 16TB MG Series Enterprise 3.5 Inch SATA Internal Hard Drive. Mainstream Server and Storage, Hyperscale and Cloud Storage, 6 Gbit/s, 7200 RPM, 5 Year Warranty (MG08ACA16TE)

3.5" SATA Hard Drive
24/7 operation
5-year warranty
Toshiba Stable Platter Technology
Persistent Write Cache technology, 550 TB/year workload
Compatible devices: Desktop

Capacity: 16TB Speed: 7,200RPM Interface Types: SATA Form Factor: 3.5inx1.0in LFF Hard Drive Sector Size: 512 / 512e Electrical Interface: SATA 600 - 6.0Gbps On-Board Cache: 512MB Using an industry-leading 9-disk design pioneered by Toshiba, the MG08 Series provides 16TB of conventional magnetic recording (CMR) capacity and 7,200 rpm performance. The industry-standard .5-inch form-factor integrates easily into cloud-scale storage infrastructure, business-critical servers and storage, and File and Object storage solutions. Toshiba’s precision industrial laser welding technology is put to use to seal helium inside the 9-disk mechanics. The massive 16TB capacity is delivered using proven CMR recording technology providing optimum application compatibility and data reliability. the MG08 Series models integrate easily into standard 3.5-inch drive bays to help reduce the footprint and operational burden of cloud-scale storage infrastructure, and business critical servers and storage systems.

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  • beatsntoons on 30/08/2021 - 09:16

    “Mainstream server and storage”… any issues with using this in a home Plex computer?

    • macmanluke on 30/08/2021 - 09:17
      +3

      likely loud and hot but a bargain

      • MasterScythe on 30/08/2021 - 10:59

        For oldschool enterprise, sure; but that would be very uncommon for Helium drive.
        What makes you say that?

        • samfisher5986 on 30/08/2021 - 11:45

          7200rpm in general runs very hot in an Australian summer.

          • MasterScythe on 30/08/2021 - 16:07

            @samfisher5986: I've been quite lucky, mine manage to stay within the recommended operatng temp of <55*c
            I can imagine if you were working them hard in the peak of the day they'd climb though.

            Working in data centres though, most helium drives run 7-10*c cooler than their non helium bretheren, so Im genuinely curious to see what these run at.

    • Caped Baldy on 30/08/2021 - 09:22

      Nah it'll be fine

    • BargainKen on 30/08/2021 - 10:34

      Functional equivalent of the Seagate Exos x16s as they are loud/noisy also. Enterprise assume the drive will be operating in a server environment where acoustics isn't an issue.

      • MasterScythe on 30/08/2021 - 11:00

        I guess it's circumstantial. Even 1 room away I can't hear modern enterprise drives. Helium just makes it even better.
        Unlike the old 8MB drive in my Apple-II, I can literally hear that at the other end of the house.

        • BargainKen on 30/08/2021 - 13:40

          Throw a bunch of them into a Raid array and you'll have no problem hearing them chattering away throughout the course of the day.

          • MasterScythe on 30/08/2021 - 16:56

            @BargainKen: Fair, i only use ZFS mirrors anymore. Raid stopped making sense for me when 12TB drives became affordable.

      • beatsntoons on 30/08/2021 - 21:15

        thanks. I've got an Exos 16TB and it's fine. Will get this one as well

  • hippyhippy on 30/08/2021 - 09:20

    Can these be used for security recording?

    • Delroy on 30/08/2021 - 09:23
      +5

      enterprise HDD are designed to be run 24/7 with high rewrite endurance. So I supposed it will work well for security recording. A bit over kill.

    • dave78234 on 30/08/2021 - 09:23
      +1

      Should be fine.

  • dave78234 on 30/08/2021 - 09:22

    Great find! Just bought one.
    Thanks for sharing

  • congo on 30/08/2021 - 09:23
    +1

    Shipped from the UK.
    Any chance that it could be dead on arrival?
    Amazon UK don't always packaging items securely. They opted for the light and cheap approach.

    • Caped Baldy on 30/08/2021 - 09:28

      anything is possible. That's why you need to test the drive and have backups

      • Nom on 30/08/2021 - 18:56
        +1

        This.

        Always do a full surface scan on any mechanical drive you buy, as soon as you receive it. If the drive has issues, you want to find out (and get it replaced) before you fill it with data !

  • XanderYuan on 30/08/2021 - 09:24
    +8

    Cheaper here? https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/toshiba-mg08aca16te-16tb/p/1Z4-000B-00FR7?item=1Z4-000B-00FR7&nm_mc=knc-googleauadwords-global&cm_mmc=knc-googleauadwords-global--hard%20drives--toshiba-_-1Z4000B00FR7&source=region

    • hotphil on 30/08/2021 - 09:27
      +7

      Yeah just googling the model number brings up at least another couple of cheaper prices too

    • tomoliveri on 30/08/2021 - 09:40

      Yep, confirmed!

      • Caped Baldy on 30/08/2021 - 09:47
        +7

        not sure if a neg is worthy…

        • Trance N Dance on 30/08/2021 - 11:43
          +10

          According to the voting guidelines it is.

          The deal is not the cheapest available

    • roberte on 30/08/2021 - 11:49

      And free shipping too.

  • idonotknowwhy on 30/08/2021 - 09:26

    2 year ROI for chia farming?

    • dave78234 on 30/08/2021 - 09:29
      +1

      Thought crossed my mind too. I think I would rather have the storage for movies and tv shows vs chia storage

    • ycatlive on 30/08/2021 - 09:46

      Seagate is going to release cheap SMR 20TB HHD for chia very soon..bit luxury to use brand new enterprise HDD for farming at this stage. Also ROI wise PoW (6600XT, 3070/ti) is much better than this one now. though the uncertainty of ETH is a potential risk

      • idonotknowwhy on 30/08/2021 - 11:05

        though the uncertainty of ETH is a potential risk

        I guess there's equal or more uncertainty with XCH

    • gromit on 30/08/2021 - 09:58

      that makes the bold assumption Network space stays the same. As drives get cheaper then Network space increases. I would be factoring in 4 years at least.

      • tessel on 30/08/2021 - 10:04

        And cost of electricity?

        • gromit on 30/08/2021 - 10:08
          +1

          that is usually insignificant with Chia as you are usually farming on your NAS that is already running 24/7. sure if you were putting a machine on just for Chia then this would matter.

      • xentar on 31/08/2021 - 11:51

        Learned this the hard way with btc asic. Customs took about 6 weeks because they didnt know what it was? So lots of back and forth and never quick. When I got the customs letter telling me it arrived in Australia I would have made ROI in around 30 hours. by the time I got it that was 2 years not accounting for what the hash rate would actually do when they started selling in larger numbers. I think btc was around 700 usd at the time so I guess I it would have been fine.

  • sween64 on 30/08/2021 - 09:42
    -7

    $501 plus delivery here

    • truongster on 30/08/2021 - 09:47
      +4

      That site is known to scam

      • sween64 on 30/08/2021 - 13:48
        +1

        Ah fair enough.

    • samsal46 on 30/08/2021 - 09:48
      +1

      Techinn. I have read many times they are scam.. how the hell do they keep the site going without any litigation? They also have MasterCard and Visa. Thes companies don't let scam sites use their service.

  • samsal46 on 30/08/2021 - 09:49
    +2

    What's the difference between this and a normal HDD for my home pc. Mainly use it for storage and steam games

    • e1ghtgundam on 30/08/2021 - 10:14

      These are more durable (especially the enterprise NAS drives) and are designed to be constantly written to/read from 24/7 for years. Warranty is typically longer with these drives than say a wd blue you might have.

    • gromit on 30/08/2021 - 10:33

      They are generally better quality built for a lot of read/write operations and running 24x7. The downside is as these are expected to be sitting in server rooms they are generally louder than most home PC drives.

    • Nom on 30/08/2021 - 19:04

      Note that 4TB SSDs are pretty cheap these days, don't use mechanical drives in your PC unless you really really can't afford enough SSDs, especially for gaming (load times from mechanical drives are bad for some titles).

      • Trance N Dance on 30/08/2021 - 19:12

        Smidge under $500 for 1 4TB SSD isn't cheap…. especially when a 4TB HDD is a quarter of the price. A $375 premium is quite steep considering it's an upgrade in CPU or GPU.

        • Nom on 30/08/2021 - 20:20

          I disagree, under $500 for 4TB of SSD storage that has none of the reliability or performance problems associated with mechanical drives is a pretty good deal.
          Hard drives absolutely have a place for bulk storage - where you draw the line, depends on how much space you actually need.

  • wellzi on 30/08/2021 - 09:56
    +2

    https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1…

    I mean, the drives were only 4.1 months old (average) but it's a great start. :)

    0 failures of the MG08. I wonder what Q2 will look like. :)

  • qvinto on 30/08/2021 - 10:07
    -5

    What do you need 16TB storage for? serious question

    • dav3 on 30/08/2021 - 10:12
      +4

      Movies, TV shows, backing up photos………

      • qvinto on 30/08/2021 - 11:39
        -4

        I have 15+ years of RAW photos and they only take up about 1.5TB. No idea how you would get to 16TB unless you never delete anything which would mean there is a whole lot of garbage to wade through on the drive. Unless you are some pro who shoots weddings each week and keep everything forever including videos

        With TV shows/movies etc, why keep them around? you can just download and stream them if you ever want to watch them again. I used to keep such things but then I realised I hardly ever watch something again and if I do its easier just to download it again. I felt like i was a digital hoarder

        • roberte on 30/08/2021 - 11:52

          Same here so I'm thinking of two of these drives for back ups: one onsite, one offsite.

        • jedimaster on 30/08/2021 - 11:53

          Get a Fujifilm GFX 50S/R camera where each raw is 110 MB and you will quickly fill it up. Currently running 3 x 12 TB in RAID 5

          • qvinto on 30/08/2021 - 11:55

            @jedimaster: Fair enough. I'm happy with 24mp due to easier work flow. I'm not shooting landscapes or product photos or printing large where resolution would be important.

            Still even at 110MB each for photos that's over 100,000 raw files on a 12TB drive. That's at least a decade of quality photos in my opinion

            • jedimaster on 30/08/2021 - 12:24
              +1

              @qvinto: Yeah, i shoot landscapes n stitch as well sometimes so the ouput TIFF easily reaches 1 GB. Bought bigger disk sizes to avoid frequent upgrades. Always plan for the future 🙂

          • PeppaPigDidNthngWrng on 31/08/2021 - 18:56

            @jedimaster: Only 110MB raw files?

            cries in Sony A7R IV

            125+MB here.

            I wonder what Fuji's GFX100S raw files are like? Hmm. 200MB each. Nice.

        • wellzi on 30/08/2021 - 21:18
          +2

          So… as a former digital hoarder (your words, not mine), you know how easy it can be to accumulate data by way of movies and tv shows, but in the same breath you don't know what someone could possibly use 16tb for? And now because YOU don't want to keep a collection of movies and tv shows, you can't fathom the idea that someone else would want to?

          Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. LOL

          • qvinto on 30/08/2021 - 21:31

            @wellzi: 16TB would be several thousand movies at high quality. I still don't see why anyone would need that many expect for "digital hoarding". I don't see any contradictions in what I wrote. If you want to store thousands of movies on your hard drives for whatever reason then thats your choice

            • wellzi on 30/08/2021 - 22:54

              @qvinto: No one NEEDS that much space on a personal level. It’s all about want! :D … and you’re not wrong, but TV is where it’s at and that sh*t destroys storage pools!

            • MasterScythe on 31/08/2021 - 17:37

              @qvinto: You realise if you play with any form of encryption, a single rainbow table can be multiple terabytes in size.

              Also, if you're worried about hoarding, creating 1:1 ISO's of all your install media, and entertainment takes up a LOT also. There's 11TB in Stargate alone!

              I for one, enjoy re-watching things ad nauseum for other people. I tend to "watch" a season of a show per day, that is to say, I enjoy having things I've seen before going on, while I'm soldering, or programming, or doing other work.

              For every DVD you want to backup 1:1, thats a MINIMUM of 4.7GB (single layer).

        • dav3 on 31/08/2021 - 17:08

          Well I COULD do that…………….. or I could have my 32TB NAS sitting there with a bunch of stuff ready to go for when I want to just put something random on and watch it with minimal effort.

    • reggyralfs on 30/08/2021 - 10:38

      You need at least 2 to mirror that much data too!

      • bchliu on 31/08/2021 - 12:46

        Prefer 4 for RAID 5 in my NAS. lol. mmm.. 48TB usable.

        • MasterScythe on 31/08/2021 - 17:40

          No, the drives are too big to safely RAID5, you end up with a significant risk of failure during rebuild.
          Your best solution is 3 drives in a BTRFS-Raid1; where it makes sure every BLOCK is duplicated, rather than every drive.

          So you end up with 16TB*3/2

          Gives you 24TB of mirrored files for the cost of only 3 drives.

          • bchliu on 01/09/2021 - 10:38

            @MasterScythe: Interesting method of RAID.. Block level redundancy in a way almost like mirroring 1.5 Disks.

    • Geoff-bargain on 30/08/2021 - 10:53
      +4

      Linux isos…

    • leehyun on 30/08/2021 - 11:00
      +1

      1 hour of uncompressed 4k footage is about 1TB alone…so there are definitely valid uses for these for personal/small business/side hustle use.

      • qvinto on 30/08/2021 - 11:36

        Yes definitely see the need for if you are a videographer

    • idonotknowwhy on 30/08/2021 - 11:06

      chia plots

  • congo on 30/08/2021 - 10:12
    +2

    Seagate Exos X18 18TB Enterprise HDD is $663

  • lordezekiel on 30/08/2021 - 10:15
    +8

    Problem is, you think $589.49 for one of these 16TB drives is a deal, but you really should be buying two so you can have a backup drive, so looking at $1178.98…

    • wellzi on 30/08/2021 - 10:33
      +2

      Just because it's recommended you have two doesn't make it any less of a deal. :)

      • lordezekiel on 30/08/2021 - 16:25
        -2

        Problem with your comment is i didn't say it makes it any less of a deal…

        • wellzi on 30/08/2021 - 21:14

          This is true, you didn't explicitly say it wasn't a deal… but c'mon, let's be realistic, your comment was mighty suggestive. :P

    • idonotknowwhy on 30/08/2021 - 11:04

      Not really, I'd just re-plot if the drive died.

  • crawfs on 30/08/2021 - 10:20

    Limit of 3 per order or is there low stock? I was hoping to get six drives of this size and this looks like a decent price

  • coxymla on 30/08/2021 - 10:24
    +6

    You won't be able to RMA this so don't count on the 5 year warranty.

    • justtoreply on 30/08/2021 - 10:34

      Huh?

      • shreav on 30/08/2021 - 11:04

        I think he's saying it because it's from Amazon UK and so there is no local warranty?

        • justtoreply on 30/08/2021 - 11:17
          +1

          But you have a right to deal with the seller for warranty. And Amazon UK pay return shipping I thought?

          If that's right, I don't see the problem.

          • shreav on 30/08/2021 - 11:20

            @justtoreply: Well I definitely agree and I'm not saying I know what is correct here. I've interpreted it similar to how you have. I am just unsure if the 5 year warranty stands. I mean they are advertising that it does have 5 year warranty, but will it be valid if we buy it from AU?

            • reggyralfs on 30/08/2021 - 12:50
              +4

              @shreav: I contacted Amazon AU support about the warranty issue, they will cover the standard 30 days, then the rest is up to Toshiba. Their policy below from their EU site (I assume sales from Amazon UK would be covered by EU policy) I don't have a great deal of purchases through Amazon…….

              https://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/eu/storage/support/warra…

              For Individual Customers
              If you have a defective Toshiba Hard Disk Drive and you wish to claim for warranty, you have to distinguish between the two following possibilities:

              1.If the Toshiba Storage Product was installed in another device (e.g. PC, laptop, Non-Toshiba branded external housing , MP3 player, etc.) when purchased, then it can only be repaired by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for information on the repair procedure.

              2.If you bought the Toshiba Hard Disk Drive from a shop, then guarantee claims can only be made with the shop which sold you the drive. The contents of the guarantee comply with the legal regulations in the country, in which the product was purchased.

              In Case of Toshiba Portable External Hard Disk Drives, please visit
              http://www.toshiba.eu/innovation/generic/external_hard_drive…

              Toshiba does NOT provide a direct repair service for anyone other than our OEM customers. It is not possible to make claims directly to Toshiba in cases of possible defects. Therefore you should NEVER send a defective drive to Toshiba representatives, because they cannot process this type of transaction!

              Please contact our Support Hotline if you need more information.

              I have cancelled my Toshiba order, after calling Seagate and confirming their warranty coverage. I have now ordered the X18's instead, worked out $0.05 cheaper per TB then Toshiba's!

              • shreav on 30/08/2021 - 13:42

                @reggyralfs: There's also these: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08KY4P7L5.

                Not quite at the same standard as these Toshibas, but…

              • BadBargain on 30/08/2021 - 14:37

                @reggyralfs: Is Seagate warranty coverage better? Worldwide?

                • reggyralfs on 30/08/2021 - 14:46

                  @BadBargain: I would advise you to check on that yourself, but the person I spoke to advised me that it was.

                  • BadBargain on 30/08/2021 - 15:19

                    @reggyralfs: Seagate website

                    Warranty service is provided only when your product is returned to an authorized return center in the region where the product was first shipped by Seagate.

                    But I haven't returned any imported drive so don't really know. If the coverage is worldwide I might consider purchasing import drive in future

              • justtoreply on 30/08/2021 - 16:39

                @reggyralfs: Australian law. The warranty is valid, albeit through the seller.

                So after 30 days it seems likely we'll pay postage to UK. Don't know what that costs, but doesn't seem like a big deal.

      • Nom on 30/08/2021 - 16:32

        Toshiba don't do Hard Drive warranties - you can't send the drive to them for replacement like you can with WD/Seagate.

        So you can only arrange warranty replacement via the seller - in this case Amazon. That may work out fine, and it may not - either way, it's not a "real" warranty like Seagate and WD provide.

        • MasterScythe on 30/08/2021 - 17:00
          +3

          It does indeed work fine with amazon. Been through it multiple times.

          Its their real point of difference in the market imo.

          They will often give you the wrong advice, because their call centre is international; but you remind them you're in AU and they send you a return label.

    • roberte on 30/08/2021 - 11:56
      +2

      RMA for my Samsung SSD from Amazon had to be shipped to the USA and replacement sent to Australia - at my expense. Amazon return policy was only 30 days.

  • Raheen on 30/08/2021 - 11:54

    damn I would need 5 of these for my NAS… Raid 5, 64 TB… drool…. too rich for my blood.

    • [Deactivated] on 30/08/2021 - 12:11

      You need another 64TB somewhere to backup all that stuff if it is important or you simply don't need RAID if it's not.
      Either way RAID5 is the thing of the past and causes way more issues than solves.

    • MasterScythe on 30/08/2021 - 17:06

      You'd raid6 or raidZ2 with that much space.

      Much over 8TB drives and the chance of failure during rebuild starts to climb dramatically; especially since they'd be from the same batch.

      I just ordered 4 to make 2 mirrored vdev's which ill put into my existing pool.

      Rainbowtables take a lot of space; and my work is testing encryption quite often. Stupid giant tables… at least the translink "GoCard" table is only 1TB.

  • samsal46 on 30/08/2021 - 12:00
    +1

    i dont know about toshiba. my 4tb hdd just blew and its 2 months out of warranty. i didnt even use it that often, about 2tb was free space. cant even contact toshiba directly in australia. and CPL refused to help me out as its out of warranty

    • jmondejar on 30/08/2021 - 13:55

      you just save me a possible headache. I almost bought this thing

      • MasterScythe on 30/08/2021 - 17:08

        Its quite normal for devices to last their warranty period, and a shop to refuse warranty, if it has none. Id wager the headache you're trying to avoid would be similar with any brand.

    • Nom on 30/08/2021 - 16:35
      +3

      That's just normal behaviour for hard drives - they all fail one day. Could be tomorrow, could be 9 years from now.

      Replace the drive, restore your backup, and move on. You'll have to do the same thing again in the future 👍

      If you're only using 2TB of space, then replace it with an SSD - don't use a mechanical drive again unless you have to.

      • justtoreply on 30/08/2021 - 16:41

        Heh. Let's revisit this comment in a few years when we all curse ssd's (actually hopefully we're over that hump.. but we're not yet with nvme)

        • Nom on 30/08/2021 - 16:43

          Whilst they definitely fail less than mechanical drives, they still fail 😁
          You still need a backup, and the same rules still apply !

          • Caped Baldy on 30/08/2021 - 17:03

            @Nom: Data recovery is a lot harder on SSDs. When they start slowing down and glitching out replace is asap. Sadly, I know from experience.

  • nimnomnimy on 30/08/2021 - 14:52

    i got the 12tb for $400 a few weeks ago from Amazon.
    seems a decent drive

  • jmondejar on 30/08/2021 - 18:42

    How noisy is this compared to Ironwolf? I plan to uses this with synology NAS on our living room to watch movies on Plex

  • MelBorn on 31/08/2021 - 13:30

    if they could ban hard drive/storage mining i would be happy

    i just want storage space at reasonable prices and in stock

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