Hey guys,
So I've encountered few occasions at my local McDonalds that whenever I wanna place an order they ask if am there for UberEats?
Not sure if they do it in purpose or just think it's funny am not offended lol maybe I start working in Uber Eats at some point to take break from the 9-5 office jobs, but just want your thoughts?
I'm South American.
Update: I have contacted local restaurant to train their staff to not auto-assume things based on customer's appearance.
Perhaps OP was wearing a spray jacket and backpack.
I'm curious what more people think of this comment. Although 100% I agree.. they probably don't think twice and are under the pump but is that someone being naïve or maybe we just lack cultural understanding?
Most of the staff are like 12 and don't give a fk to think twice.
They haven't been through corporate non-discrimination etiquette yet.
will they ever?
I don't believe they are doing it to be funny, I do think it is stereotyping.
Next time they ask if you are the for Uber Eats, tell them that if you were, you wouldn't be at the counter making an order.
Or just say "yes" and take whatever is in the mystery bag.
Next time, they won’t ask if OP was there for UberEats.
McD: You here for UberEats?
OP: Yes.
A few mins later, UberEats worker arrives.
UberEats: Here for pick up.
McD: ………….
i'll def give that a go xD
I thought you were implying the food was "Uber" eating, sorry :P
I dunno if you guys have ever delivered for UberEats but they won't hand you anything until you can produce the order number and show them it in the driver's app
McDonald's sues people for stealing food though
It's not stealing if they hand it to him, haha.
@ThePeterGriffin: He'd be better off if they ask if he is there for Uber eats just to say nothing and walk up to the counter. If they hand him something, then he just walks away with it.
@ThePeterGriffin: Yes it is, it's literally fraud. Which is a form of stealing.
The way you are rationalising it, it is like saying that scammers are not stealing from their victim because the victims sent them the money
McDonald's sues people for stealing food though
Sauce?
In any event, the police ultimately refrained from taking any formal action against Le Rocca which effectively clears him of any wrongdoing. To be guilty of fraud, larceny or other stealing offences, the customer would need to have obtained the proffered goods through deception. By contrast, this was an ordering error that the customer presumably played no part in.
Did you even read the article?
The McDonald's called police, they didn't sue, and the customer didn't steal either.
@Scrooge McDuck: I couldn't finish the article. I couldn't get past the line in there: "Shouldn’t they be fighting crime, not fighting the Hamburglar?” xD
@Scrooge McDuck: talking about stereotypes - the generation that just reads headlines……..thinking its the actual story
Could legally change his name to Uber Eats and have a lifetime supply of free meals
@REDRUM: Issa joke I know, but by law, you can't. I remember from a few years back some upstart burger joint offered lifetime free burgers if you changed your surname to 'burgers'. Offer was retracted when the government stepped in to remind them so.
@Skinnerr: I do remember that, but by law nobody can stop you changing your name… I'm sure influencing said name change from a marketing perspective likely flagged a lot of business marketing, conduct and ethics laws however!
You win the internet for the day Sir!
Best comment lol
Will this work? I remembered the deliver person always have to show the code on their phone before they can pick up the order for uber delivery.
Yep. I am Indian and I get this a lot. Especially at restaurants during the lockdowns. I don't really care but I can imagine someone could get offended.
Funny thing was my Kiwi wife and I went to a heavy metal concert in Flemington couple of years ago and the parking was next to the venue. I drove in and the parking assistant asked me to take a right for the Uber drop off. He felt very embarrassed when I told him I am not an Uber driver and I need to park for the concert. His explanation was that he had dealt with plenty of Indians dropping white people off at a heavy metal concert. I laughed it off but my wife wasn't very happy with the stereotyping. I hope that bloke learned something that day.
Thank God that bloke doesn't work in corporate office, else he would consider every Indian guy on the floor to be either an IT engineer or a finance/ accounting professional.
Stereotypes don't come from nowhere, nor are they born out of hate. But political correctness demands that we deny certain elements of the truth.
Yes but it's another thing entirely to articulate your assumption. Nothing wrong with asking them their purpose rather than jumping to conclusions.
This is why i just assume every white person is racist.
@abb: Thats true actually. White people are racist in a predominantly white country.
Goes the other way in other countries.
Stereotypes don't come from nowhere, nor are they born out of hate. But political correctness demands that we deny certain elements of the truth.
@Autonomic: You wrote:
Therefore, you are being racist according to your own definition of racism. This discussion is over.
*guy would have been better saying parking that way uber that way take your pick.
lol. It's funny. I was on site last week in a well off suburb, wearing builder gear, hi-vis, and I took the site boys truck to help him refill diesel cause we're all under the pump with social distancing and pickups.
I rock up at the servo and Indian attendant looks at me when I pay and smiles curiously and I say what's up?
Nothing, just don't see chinese guys driving delivery trucks in this area normally in the corporate cars.
Shrugs. It's not hate/discriminatory - it's just biological in terms of visual recognition and also culturally what people have become used to seeing.
I thought uber eats folks wear a vest?
Carrys a giant bag, most likely wears a helmet.
and wears sandles.
I had completely the opposite last year when I was doing liquor delivery to make up the lost hours during covid.
I kept being told "oh you don't look like a delivery driver"..I guess it's because I am white
Even if it is true and it is what they think, people should be smarter and not make assumption.
I can imagine this would be hurtful for someone getting these comments on a regular basis simply trying to place an order for themselves.
Yeah I get that when I pickup (white guy) when I don't want to wait…
Perhaps they equate white people with alcoholism.
/BalancingOutThePrejudice
to be fair, in the past i've used uber eats / menulog etc a fair bit and i have quite literally never had a white delivery driver, the majority were indian, some were asian, but no whites at all.
Yup it's too bad the delivery Uber eats, menu log, door dash, what not have been stereo typed to specific ethic backgrounds. But it's quite common. It's true I haven't seen a local Aussie guy doing it for that matter.
who cares?
David Leyonhjelm does!
https://www.newsweek.com/senator-thanks-young-brown-men-deli…
and then he read the Bible and stepped into the largest ever trap!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-03/sarah-hanson-young-da…
When you haven't ever had to deal with any stereotyping in your everyday life I guess that would be your answer
Everyone deals with stereotyping. It's part of life no matter what race, gender, martial status etc. Whether it's in your face or more subtle and whether you realise it or not.
Where are you located?
Brisbane southeast
I remembered listening to abc radio, richard glover had an event, and claimed he can tell where they are from from the accent. One person called in, he speaks perfect English, Richard got it wrong, I think he said England, anyway, the caller said he is ABC. He recalls after making an order in a restaurant, when he picked it up, people were surprised to see him. I think the caller is also from Brisbane, or some city in Queensland.
But who was phone?
Its happened to me as well dude but knowing how fast-paced their work environment is, its quite understandable…
My clan and some other friends had a long weekend in Canberra maybe five years ago. I and a mate went to pick up takeaway for dinner in the apartments - lots of food for like 13 people. He's Indian, and I was dressed in trakkies and sandals somewhat reminiscent of a gopnik. We came back to our apartment block with the food in bags, got to the lift and realised we didn't have an access card. Another person was there and saw us, thought we were food delivery people - the Indian and the Slav - and got us to our floor. We played along and still laugh at it today.
Ok but can you imagine the sick Slav/Hindi hardbase beats you guys could smash out.
Exactly what I had in my head..
If you’re not Indian but claim you got stereotyped as an Uber driver because you look Indian did you just stereotype Indians?
ok am non-white*
If you’re not Indian but claim you got stereotyped as an Uber driver because you look Indian did you just stereotype Indians?
Exactly. If it's your thinking that the staff are assuming you're an Uber Driver because you look Indian, then you are also stereotyping Indians.
Oh nice, ‘the I’m not racist, you’re racist’ play.
Well, the OP did also include:
I'm South American and been told I look Indian.
If the OP wasn't stereotyping, wouldn't the question just be: "I wonder why they are assuming I'm an Ubereats Driver?"
As a white male, I've been asked by Indians at an Indian restaurant if I was there for UberEats when picking up my order. I had my phone out and open ready to pay though, I think that was why…
So I've encountered few occasions at my local McDonalds that whenever I wanna place an order they ask if am there for UberEats?
Just maybe…. and hear me out…. That the people that approach the counter are mostly the UberEats drivers?
Everyone I know doesn't order via the staff/counter anymore. They do it via the app or touchscreens. Infact my local maccas covered up all the POS machines so you can't really see them.
Not sure about that, there's usually a line up whenever i go to maccas
Didn't neg btw
doubt there was a guy in front of me ordering and the cashier tried to walk away and I move closer to counter and he asked if am Uber driver?
Besides uber eats driver wait on queue on other side and not counter.
On the very rare occasion I go into Macca's, I order at the counter, as I just want to tell a person what I want, not spend 20 minutes going through a stupid touchscreen.
Conversely, most of us would rather flick through the screen to add items and customise options as we like than pay straight away.
Instead of 20 mins explaining which ones are meals, which are standalone, which no onion, which extra cheese, small fries no salt but regular fries normal salt, what drinks do you have etc…
Jimmy's right though, the busiest McD's in Sydney rarely have staff at the counter unless the odd person rocks up. Everyone else is ordering through app or in-store screens.
@brendanm: Yeah the self-ordering machines are pretty gross but you can use the smartphone app if you like avoiding human interaction
@brendanm: Surely avoiding people is better than avoiding screens. We know now that the virus spreads more through people breathing each others air than through surfaces.
@Quantumcat: It was a joke, they don't only have Macca's touchscreens in Sydney and melbourne. I don't plan on avoiding people, I like people mostly.
Yep, me too. Hungry Jack's don't have any of that touchscreen nonsense and they operate just fine. Last year, I stopped at a McDonald's on Great Eastern Highway for some breakfast, and the counter girl flat out refused to serve me direct and insisted I use a touchscreen. No way I was going to do that so went to a nearby HJ's instead.
I once had a McDonald's staff member think I was a Menulog driver, probably because with my beard and mask I potentially looked Indian. Meanwhile ten Indian menulog drivers were in the outlet waiting for orders. I don't think it is stereotyping. It is a fair assumption.
To the person who negged me, justify yourself.
I upvote you to even it out. A good number of those ethic backgrounds do those jobs nothing wrong with it. But it's very easy for people to stereotypes just because it's so typical and might be 99% right all the time
Didn't neg but it's sounds exactly like stereotyping even if they're right 9/10 times
Never seen a non-Indian Menulog driver. I don't see how a factual observation is stereotyping.
You know there are other types of brown people right? They're called Pakistani's, Bangladeshi's, Sri Lankan's etc. and they do food delivery services too so yes you were stereotyping.
@kanmen: Bro, you know by now, in western culture, every brown person is indian, every yellow person is chinese, and every white person is racist until proven not.
lol
Every indian person in a McDonald's isn't a menulog driver though. You understand that, right?
@Guybrush57: You say "it's a fair assumption". The assumption being an indian person in a McDonald's is a menulog driver. If not, can you clarify what this "fair assumption" is?
@Autonomic: I don't know about your local McDonald's but at mine there is a revolving door of people that look Indian and they are all Menulog drivers. They all approach the counter asking about their orders. None of this is my opinion.
If another person who looks Indian walks in, approaches the counter and th staff assume they are a Menulog driver, that is a fair assumption. The person simply says "I am not a Menulog driver. I am here to order" and that is it. That is what has happened to me personally. There was no racism from the staff member who served me. There is no racism in any of it. Stop looking for racism where there is none. You, kanmen and CaptainNewspeak are what is wrong with this world.
None of this is my opinion.
Well, in your opinion they look indian. As we can see from the OP (and the fact that race is socially constructed), looks can be deceiving.
If another person who looks Indian walks in, approaches the counter
OK. Let me rephrase, not every indian person who is in McDonalds approaches the counter at a McDonalds is a menulog driver. You understand that, right?
@Autonomic: When person after person of Indian appearance approaches the counter to ask about the progress of a Menulog order without ordering food themselves, statistically speaking the next person of Indian appearance who approaches the counter is more likely to be a Menulog driver than not. That is not my opinion nor anyone else's. If you and others think statistical facts are racist then that is your issue.
You act like you think being a Menulog driver or having an Indian appearance (like I do myself) is a bad thing. I certainly don't so I don't know why you're singling me out.
statistically speaking the next person of Indian appearance who approaches the counter is more likely to be a Menulog driver than not.
I would disagree with this. Regardless, should they be treated as a menulog driver? If not, why is the assumption even made?
@Autonomic: I don't know why you would disagree with statistics but regardless, it's hardly the end of the world being treated as a menulog driver given it means being asked what order you are picking up then being asked what you want to order after you tell them you are there to place an order.
As I said, I was assumed to be a menulog driver given my appearance. No offence was meant by the staff member and no offence was taken by me. Literally 2 seconds later the guy knew I was there to place an order. You must think lowly of Menulog drivers if you think being treated as one is a degenerate move.
@Guybrush57: lmao your response to me calling you out for stereotyping races is- on a conversation unrelated to what I said- to go off about not being racist and say that I'm what's wrong with the world. Bless your defensive heart.
Your stereotypes and lack of accountability are what's wrong with the world. I'm glad I said what I said, notably you changed your language to refer to 'Indian-looking people' but yeah sure I'm what is wrong with the world.
@Guybrush57: I love Australia, you sir are a beautiful example of standard Australian reasoning.
Stereotypes are based on probability, and acting on stereotypes is perfectly normal and not racist.
You're like perfectly preserved from the 1950s. It is wonderful to see you in action.
Hey, what are your thoughts on aboriginal people? Just give us 3-4 lines. You know..just tell us some of your totally not racist thoughts on them.
@Guybrush57: What? I made a fair assumption in that most white people who say they don't stereotype while making stereotypical assumptions are racially biased.
To prove I'm not awful, I'll give you some advice: try to get out of your comfort zone and engage with your community, if you hang around the same people all the time you get set in your ways and it makes it harder to identify your unconscious biases. You're not the only one, I'm racist without even knowing it too. We're not all perfect, and should listen to others and make changes to our behavior. Society will be better for it.
Best of luck 🤞
Edit: also assumed you're white, my bad
They’re probably under the pump with KPI’s.. just cutting straight to the chase