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Good price on a 16gb CL16 3200mhz kit
CL16-18-18-38
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G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz CL16 DDR4 Desktop RAM Memory Kit $89 + Shipping @ Shopping Express
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LNeso5 on 07/10/2021 - 09:44 shoppingexpress.com.au (1717 clicks)
Last edited 08/10/2021 - 15:03 by 1 other user
Last edited 08/10/2021 - 15:03 by 1 other user
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Wish this was around when I was buying for my rig. Great deal.
I paid more than $200 for these a couple of years back :(
Haha funny, you made me check. I paid $214 in Sep 2017.
Thanks OP, just what I need to bump my rig up to 32Gb!
Noob question, can you mix and match different ram brands? Planning to match this with some 3200mhz crucial ram
believe you can if you mix 2 2x8 kits
make sure the timing are the same if not faster otherwise you'll need to manually tune them to the same (slower) speed
Cool, is the timing that CL number?
Do not do this. RAM is notoriously difficult to match. Even if it's between the same brand and model number there is no guarantee it will work.
I would avoid mixing and matching.
@shekiepie: ^ this.
Also running dual rank puts a lot more strain on the CPU's memory controller and a lot of them time will prevent you from running RAM at its normal clock speed.
I recommend just buying a new kit with the size you want and selling the old one.
@Void: dual rank is awesome and worth it IMO, xmp speeds should not be an issue for this, only run into problems when you start overclocking
@Void: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZbxMh5xUOg
perhaps it depends on your use case, this one here using linpack shows dual rank wins out
LinPackScore MT/s Total Cap Setup Effective Ranks Brand
600 Gflops 4666 16GB 2x8 Single Rank Viper
593 Gflops 4533 32GB 2x16 Single Rank Ballistix Max
628 Gflops 4400 32GB 2x16 Dual Rank Vengence
613 Gflops 4266 32GB 4x8 Dual Rank Viper@micsway: Sure it wins in raw bandwidth but you lose out on latency and you have to run a lower clock on the infinity fabric which is the main benefit of faster RAM.
@abjsdhasehasee: I just checked and Ryzen 3000 can do 3800 dual rank. I've made quite a clown out of myself lol. I'd always thought it would top out at around 3400-3600.
@Void: using x8 width Memory (what we normally use in consumer kits),
dual rank (single side memory module per stick * 4 sticks, or double sided memory module per stick * 2 sticks)
should be fine to run on both Intel and AMD. (4 stick top out around 3600~3800, 2 stick top out around 4000 on cheap 4 layer board, on better 6 layer+ board 4 stick top out around just over 4000, 2 stick top out around 4400)
The trouble only starts when u try to run them over 4400mhz, as dual rank won't clock much higher than that.
your statement applies with quad rank, (dual rank sticks * 4), they barely does 3600 even on a good mobo.
as performance difference goes, I have 2 set of ballistix, 16Gx2 3000 (dual rank), 16Gx2 3600(Single rank), the 3000 kit top out 4266 18-23-23-42, the 3600 kit top out 4400 17-21-21-38. the 3000 kit with weaker RAM module and worse OC result would still reach almost the same GFlops.
@shekiepie: Yeah I concur. Given that they all need to run with XMP to achieve the advertised speeds, all 4 sticks will receive the same XMP setting. Chips often react differently to what the box says and timings, and other parameters might need to be tweaked to achieve stability. This will be terribly difficult if the two sets respond differently. So it's not that it is not possible, it's just that you're painting yourself into a corner hoping that the boxed settings work as advertised. Stable Overclocking would be off the table.
@shekiepie: "Do not do this ~~~~ I would avoid mixing and matching."
Do you know for fact from personal experience? I have a PC with 4 x 2400 DDR4 non-heatsink ram…2 x Crucial and 2 x Hynix and have had them running @ 3000 MHz for months with zero issues…normal PC use and benchmarks…have not even tried to go any faster…happy as it is!
Ryzen 5 1600 on an Asus A320 Prime motherboard, and from the little overclocking I have ever attempted…by far the easiest motherboards to do this are Asrock and Asus.
Results? Worthwhile…
all of them, you'll need to go into the bios and set each timing since using auto would result in a mismatch.
I've never done this so perhaps do some wider reading on the topic from around the web.
if you have not done this before then I'd recommend avoiding it and just buying the same kits to run 4 sticks
Yes, if it has the same bus 3200Mhz, but not stable
Great deal. A preferred brand and decent performance segment.
Can you buy two (4x8) of these sets to get 32gig ram or best to stick to 2x16gig sets?
if you've got a ryzen cpu and 4 dimm slots it'd be better to get 4 of these :)
ryzen 7 3700x with Corsair LPX 16gig 3000MZ ram at the moment. Was looking for 32 gig to run M Flight Simulator and a couple other apps.
At this price, I guess it's a steal
What about an Intel CPU ?
Generally better to stick to 2x16GB sticks. Ram generally faster when it's in 1 stick vs 2.
That much of a difference? More than 10% difference?
the difference is decent
Read This
^ is a good read :)
2x16GB gives you room to upgrade to 64, but generally if you want to max out at 32 getting 4x8gb is most optimalno, you only see the difference in speed when you overclock the ram, 4x8 typically can't be pushed as far as 2x16 due to voltage/temp limitations
4x8 xmp and 2x16 same xmp will be identical
2x16 allows you to push higher speed overclocks due mostly to lower ram temps compared to 4x8
if running XMP it doesn't really matter and aesthetically 4x8 is preferred by most
Thanks for the replies. Not really into overclocking. Bought two kits of these to replace the 3000MHz 16gig LPX I currently have.
yeah you did everything right, for starters you didnt start the post with 'please go easy on me, its my first post' like everyone else and this is a great deal
Thanks OP
Thanks OP.
Paid $244.55 for this from shopping express 3 years ago
Finally doubling the RAMshould buy 100 of these and see if one of them comes with some shitty b die bin and return the rest. lol
jeez seeing so many people buying 2x2x8 of this, will be interesting how many rmas that come of this when people realise your either not gonna get the same die or your gonna get 4x8 c die and it wont even boot mxp
What is the issue that might cause mass RMAs mentioned above?
I'm just looking to build a cheap non-OCed box to replace my i5 4570.this is a lottery bin, 3200 c16 it could be literally any ram ic on the market meaning that if you buy 2x2x8 you could 2 different ram ic's and some ram ic's dont like being near eachother or it just wont post unless its at 2133 jedec.
although your most likely to get c die which is one of the most bogged bins ever, it only likes running 2x8 and if you try 4x8 it might not post or probably be unstable, then most people might just put a tiny bit more voltage, which on c die either means no post because it doesnt scale with voltage or on the few kits that do scale with voltage, it may be stable for a year then die because c die likes to become c died at >1.35v. although you can easily test and fix 4x8 c die it can take a bit of time which most people here have no patience so yknow.2x8 of this is fine tho. 4x8 fine if you tune, unless you get 2 different ic's then idk
How likely are you to get 2 different IC's if buying 2 packs from the same retailer at the same time ? Wouldn't the box from the manufacturer contain the same batch, hence likely be 4 of the same IC?
cant say, this is why having a good return policy is important, or being able to go into store is even better. but its not like they only have the newest batch, this ram isnt special or being sold out every month yknow so its likely theyve got 1+year old ram. (also not sure how manufacturing works but im preety sure the 'batches' are super small time frames, as in less than a week)
id just recommend some crucial ballistix, 4x8 of that and your set, guaranteed to get some nice rev e, 2x16 of ballistix is a yikes tho as you can get dual rank or single rank rev b / rev e
@abjsdhasehasee: Is there anything I shouldn't get for my Gigabyte B560M Aorus Pro assuming I get a 10400F for it ?
@scottb721: everything else is kinda independent from those two and i really dont know anything about intel, just make sure you dont buy a cheap psu, and check out pccasegear, they got 5 p14's for $59 in 8 days if your interested in a quiet build
@abjsdhasehasee: Thanks. ATM I'm planning on using this from my current case. https://uk.thermaltake.com/tr2-s-600w.html
@he11bent: wow suprised with shopping express shipping.
would you mind sending a photo of the actual ram, on one of the sides there should be an code with '042' in it. look for that code and take a photo of the whole thing.could tell you what exact die u got
@he11bent: 88211 is a 16gbit AJR downbinned to a 8gbit '1JR'. possibly due to partially defective units so they just cut them down in half or cost reasons idk.
AJR has 1.55vxmp so thats what id say is a definitely safe voltage if you wanna overclock.
clockwalled at ~3733 which is often a 'clockwall' for ryzen anyway. VERY loose trcd when going for higher mhz.only know 1 guy that oced it to 3733 16-21-21-21 1.55v
@abjsdhasehasee: What about if I'm not interested in overclocking? For the price, couldn't find cheaper
Not looking for RAM but great find and post. This is what this website is about not 2x MSRP pc parts like we've been seeing for months.
the 3600mhz one is 109 aswell…
any cheap rgb 16gb kit?3200c16 vs 3600c18, differences like 1% in most game.
Great price. If I hadn't got the Corsair LPX 2 weeks ago I would have bought these for $27 less instead.
More like $17 due to shipping.
Went OOS during checkout :-(
Due to receive it today according to tracking. Will find out what is what.
Just received my two sets. Build date by the looks of is Sep 2021, nearly same S/N
https://ibb.co/tmLCwVsBack in stock :-)
How much is shipping
Depends where you live, use their postage estimator on the checkout page
OOS again
cheaper than non heatsink CL16-18-18-38 I recently bought. $12 shipping to melb.