MSI Z590 PRO WiFi 6 LGA1200 ATX Motherboard $139 Delivered @ shallothead eBay

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Excellent price on this full ATX LGA1200 motherboard that currently sells for $229 at CentreCom and other stores. The coupon reduces the price by a further $10.

Notable specs include 4 DIMM slots, 3x M.2 slots (PCIe 4.0 & PCIe 3.0), 6x SATA, USB-C Gen2 20Gbps, Intel WiFi 6E AX210, Bluetooth 5.2 and more.

Features:

Supports 10th Gen Intel® Core™, 11th Gen Intel® Core™, Pentium® Gold and Celeron® processors for LGA 1200 socket

Supports DDR4 Memory, up to 5333(OC) MHz

Lightning Fast Experience: PCIe 4.0, Lightning Gen4 x4 M.2 with M.2 Shield Frozr, Intel Turbo USB 3.2 Gen 2

Premium Thermal Solution: Extended Heatsink Design and M.2 Shield Frozr are built for high performance system and non-stop works

2.5G LAN with LAN Manager and Intel Wi-Fi 6E Solution: Upgraded network solution for professional and multimedia use. Delivers a secure, stable and fast network connection

Intel Turbo USB 3.2 Gen 2: Powered by Intel USB 3.2 Gen2 controller, Turbo USB ensures an uninterrupted connection with more stability and fastest USB speeds

Audio Boost: Reward your ears with studio grade sound quality

Multi-GPU: With Steel armor PCI-E slots. Supports 2-Way AMD Crossfire™

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askbargain on 03/11/2021 - 12:58

+14

Reward your ears with studio grade sound quality

lol
- edfoo on 03/11/2021 - 13:49
  
  -3
  
  lol?
  
  Hear your own laughter in studio grade sound quality?
- Synticulous on 03/11/2021 - 13:50
  
  Yes, is good joke.
  
  Wonder if the new gen of MSI boards also has vdroop issues?
  - astevens on 03/11/2021 - 17:04
    
    I hear there's a pill for vdroop these days…
- Clear on 03/11/2021 - 16:15
  
  +3
  
  Gotta get some of that ASMR going.
pyr0maniac on 03/11/2021 - 14:05

+1

What would be a better pairing with a non-K i5, this or the B560 Torpedo at the same price - ignoring the fact that this has WiFi.
- Clear on 03/11/2021 - 14:14
  
  +1
  
  Non-k means you won't be overclocking so the B560 Torpedo would be fine. Seems to be a good deal with that Steam $30 redemption.
  - pyr0maniac on 03/11/2021 - 14:16
    
    I guess what I was really trying to ask is if there is any benefit to getting this over the B560 Torpedo. Don't care much about the steam credit either.
    - Clear on 03/11/2021 - 14:18
      
      +1
      
      With this specific mobo there isn't a big difference. Z590 boards can support more PCIe lanes, USB ports and other stuff but at this price point they're near identical.
    - OMGJL on 03/11/2021 - 21:18
      
      +2
      
      Connectivity:
      Z590 A Pro have:
      
      Intel wifi 6 — best wifi/bluetooth receiver you can get.(values ~$50 if you buy a Intel WiFi 6 adapter separately)
      less usb port on the back, though it have 2* 10Gbps USB port, Torpedo have 1* 10Gbps (both have 1* 20Gbps Type C)
      same audio chipset as Torpedo(both not ALC1200 so is average at best), but Torpedo have optical audio if you have speaker systems.
      single Intel 2.5G lan (torpedo have dual Lan, but the 2.5G is realtek)
      M.2 heatsink is on the top PCIe 4.0 slot (lots of 4.0 drive have their own heatsink anyway), Torpedo have it on the 2nd M.2 PCIe 3.0, which I think make more sense
      
      Chipset wise:
      Z590 have 8x DMI lanes, means you can have FULL bandwidth on the bottom 2 M.2 SSD, or more bandwidth for other PCIe expansion. B560 have 4x DMI lanes, means if you can't use full bandwidth of the bottom M.2 while using high bandwidth on other PCIe Expansion card.
      
      Z590 Allows Memory Reference clock 100Mhz as well as 133Mhz, while B560 only supports 133Mhz, in some niche scenarios, say you have a 10th gen CPU, and your memory runs at most 4500Mhz but not 4533Mhz, because B560 don't support 100Mhz, you can't set 4500(45100), but rather 4400(33133)
      
      or if you have 3000Mhz ram, it would only run at 2933 on B560, but it will run full 3000 on Z590. This won't matter in any other common ram frequency i.e. 3200 3466 3600 3733 3866 4000 4133 4266 4400
      - OMGJL on 03/11/2021 - 21:24
        
        @OMGJL: considering all those difference, I'd Z590 for sure, present the only thing worse is no optical audio(niche), and M.2 heatsink location. (carefully select the choice of SSD and heatsink and you will be fine)
wrx5 on 03/11/2021 - 14:12

+2

Oh well prices are dropping because Z690 and 12th Intel CPUs (LGA1700) are out. Make your decision wisely. Consider the new tech before buying Z590 boards and LGA1200 CPUs
- Clear on 03/11/2021 - 14:16
  
  +4
  
  It's important to note that many LGA1700 mobos are going for $350+ and DDR5 RAM even more expensive. I think now is a good time to go for AMD/11th Gen Intel due to the low prices, while still getting excellent performance.
  - wrx5 on 03/11/2021 - 14:19
    
    Yes you are right. Prices are around $300+ mark. But there are DDR4 versions as well. Actually all the models those I have seen are DDR4. Probably because there is no DDR5 RAM out there yet. (or is there any??)
    - Clear on 03/11/2021 - 14:20
      
      They went up for preorder and sold out quickly.
      - wrx5 on 03/11/2021 - 14:27
        
        +1
        
        @Clear: I wouldn't be surprised if there will be a supply shortage. My main point here is this, I will give you my own example: I was going to build a gaming PC for myself and was considering Z590 mobo with i9-11900K CPU. Because they were the latest and (kinda) greatest. However, picture has changed as of last week. Now there is a new model of tech. When you build a PC (especially for gaming) you would want for it to stay current and support up coming games for as many years as possible. Within this context, I waited to see what's sorts of cost will be involving choosing the new best and wanted to compare it with the 11th gen components (with their reduced prices of course due to new releases).
        
        I am not advising people to forget about the 11th gen components. Just do the right comparison. Price vs value… Latest and greatest is not the best price/value option all the time. But it is good to be aware of what's out there.
        
        And another great deal from you as usual :) Thanks for that.
        
        botchie on 03/11/2021 - 17:31
        
        @wrx5: i have 9th gen intel i7 and there is no fps difference to 11th gen - maybe only like 1-2 frames but I can always OC
        will be interesting to see if there is any real improvement with 12th gen
        
        wrx5 on 03/11/2021 - 18:12
        
        @botchie: So you are basically saying that you haven't played the FS2020 on 4K ultra high settings yet :)
        
        A lot of missing information exists in your writing. Such as which game(s), what is the resolution, what graphics level setup (high, ultra high, medium), what options are enabled and disabled such as DDLS,Ray Tracing (if your graphics card supports them) etc…
        
        Here are some technical information for the difference
        
        lets assume you have i7-9900K which is top of the range for 9th i7 CPUs. In this case:
        
        Max memory speed you can have is DDR4-2666 (you can get faster RAM but system won't work more than 2666MHz. Faster RAM will give you less voltage usage mean less heat)
        
        You don't have PCI-e Gen4 support so you cannot have latest graphics cards so in this case you shouldn't really be claiming that FPS will be same. But my this statement is for games with heavy duty graphics
        
        Your CPU's CPU and Memory BUS Speeds are around half of 11th gen and 1/3 of 12th gen
        
        DMI channels, XMP profiles… goes on and on…
        
        Does the new model CPU provides 100% difference. We wish but they don't. Every new CPU will be 20%-30% faster than the previous equivalent model. Based on this general numbers, 12th gen will be around 50% faster than your 9th gen i7. Having said that, it all depends what you are doing and how you are doing that.
        
        My friend had 6th gen i7 CPU with RTX 1070 graphics card. Now he has i7-11900K with same setup (mobo and CPU changed). He is playing same games and he says "what's the difference"… My answer to this is: Play the new games with full settings, you will see the difference.
        
        Grand Theft Auto V 1080p resolution DX11, Ultra Settings
        
        i9-9900 114 fps
        i7-9900 108 fps
        i7-8700 102 fps
        i7-7700 93fps
        
        Does this much difference important? For some people yes and for others not. Very personal decision which I respect.
        
        BROKENKEYBOARD on 03/11/2021 - 19:22
        
        +1
        
        @wrx5:
        
        Every new CPU will be 20%-30% faster than the previous equivalent model
        
        When was the last time this actually happened?
        
        wrx5 on 03/11/2021 - 19:39
        
        -3
        
        @BROKENKEYBOARD: Every time with the new model but depends what you are trying on.
        
        Computer is not a single piece of component.
        
        For example 11th gen CPU came with PCI-e 4.0 support and a person hasn’t utilised that benefit with a new PCI-e 4.0 graphics card and PCI-e 4.0 M.2 storage… if this person is complaining about haven’t seen the benefit of having a new CPU, at this stage we need to avoid having a conversion about computers with this person because he/she doesn’t know anything about the computer architecture.
        
        botchie on 03/11/2021 - 22:09
        
        @wrx5: not sure what you are saying here but i7 9700 k is pretty much on par with 11th gen - its def not 20% gen on performance difference
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ_4U3wzBiI&ab_channel=Testi…
        
        and for your info my ram is at 3600 hz, recognised …
        no pci4.0 as that is not even a thing atm
        
        gaming on 6800 xt, 1440 p
        240 hz screen
        
        wrx5 on 04/11/2021 - 00:54
        
        +2
        
        @botchie: i7 9700k is pretty much on par with 11th gen - why do you say that? just because Processor Base Frequency and Max Turbo Frequency are same as 11th gen? is that how do you asses the devices? You should compare them line by line to see the differences.
        
        Your CPU has 8 cores and 8 threads basically no hyper threading
        11th gen has 8 cores and 16 threads
        12th gen has 8+4 cores and 20 threads
        
        Your CPU has 12mb cache
        11th gen has 16mb cache
        12th gen has 25mb cache
        
        Your CPU has 41.6GB/s Max Memory Bandwidth
        11th gen has 50GB/s Max Memory Bandwidth
        12th gen has 76.8GB/s Max Memory Bandwidth
        
        Your CPU support PCI-e 3.0 (x16 - graphics card slot throughput speed is 15GB/s)
        11th gen CPU support PCI-e 4.0 (x16 - graphics card slot throughput speed is 31GB/s)
        12th gen CPU support PCI-e 5.0 (x16 - graphics card slot throughput speed is 63GB/s)
        
        If you want you can see more detailed comparison between 11th and 12th gen CPUs on this page: https://www.pcworld.com/article/546076/intel-alder-lake-12th…. So from there you can image the improvement between 9th and 12th gen CPUs.
        
        Yes your ram speed will be recognized but CPU will get data from the RAM at the max speed of its max memory bandwidth speed. This cannot be tweaked. You may see some small benefits here and there by using fast RAM but not everywhere. So advise is to spend money on RAM wisely.
        
        Just because you didn't get 20% FPS increase on the games that you play, you cannot say there is no 20% performance increase gen on. Movie editors, content creators or people those are using their computer for other reasons will see it.
        
        https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-9700K-vs-Intel…
        
        CPU Passmark core i7-11700k is 25154
        CPU Passmark core i7-9700k is 14574
        
        See almost double.
        
        Hank Scorpion on 04/11/2021 - 19:45
        
        @wrx5: A better comparison would be 9900k or 10700k which are basically the same 8 core 16 thread processor, the 9700k doesn't have hyper threading.
        
        11th gen is good on paper but in gaming it's not much better then skylake based 10th gen and even worse in some games.
        
        OMGJL on 03/11/2021 - 22:49
        
        @wrx5: soooooo much miss conception you've got here.
        
        running games on 4k REDUCES cpu usage, as GPU is busy rendering a bigger resolution and CPU don't need to send command as often, you'd see game fps fluctuate more when running 1080p.
        
        "i7-9900K" best 9th gen i7 is i7 9700k
        
        max RAM speed you can get on NON-Z Platform is 2666, you can XMP/Manual OC as much as you wish on Z370/Z390. You even mentioned XMP profiles later in your own comment, odd.
        
        Faster RAM usually come with more extreme XMP profiles = 1.4v 1.45v, 1.5v, 1.55v as opposed to JEDEC 1.2v, or normal XMP 1.35v which gives you a tiny bit more heats on RAM, and because RAM is a lot faster it will pump more data to CPU, making CPU stall less waiting for data and produce A LOT more heat.
        
        Memory bus speed? Mind to explain me what this even is?
        
        DMI speed —— won't affect Game performance, as processor core/Memory/GPU all won't use DMI.
        
        7, "Every new CPU will be 20%-30% faster than the previous equivalent model", Intel has been using same Skylake architecture from 6th gen all the way to 10th gen, the only difference is more L3 Cache, more threads. so NO IT ISN'T
        
        8, Your friend have the same GPU, it wasn't bottlenecked before, it isn't bottlenecked now either.
        
        wrx5 on 04/11/2021 - 01:31
        
        @OMGJL: Hi there. Happy to learn if my knowledge is wrong. We are here to learn. At least I am.
        
        you are right
        
        9900K comes from my i9 research. I meant 9700K. (you are right again)
        
        XMP profiles… I mentioned this as 12th gen uses version 3.0 as oppose to version 2.0 with 9th gen CPUs. So mentioned this as an improvement.
        
        Regardless of how fast the RAM is there is a set limit of max memory bandwidth. So RAM will not be able to pass data to CPU beyond this speed limit. This is 41.6GB/s for 9th gen and 76.8GB/s for 12th gen. Almost double. Mobos like Z390 and onward are smart about memory voltage usage. If CPU doesn't need fast response from the RAM then RAM voltage gets reduced so RAM gets slowed down thus RAM produces less heat. If CPU needs more data from RAM then mobo increases the RAM's voltage to increase the RAM speed. Of course all these adjustments are within the limits of RAM capabilities.
        
        Memory bus speed —> Max memory bandwidth
        
        DMI speed… 12th gen uses DMI 4.0 which has double the bandwidth compared to DMI 3.0 which 9th gen uses. So you don't consider this as improvement? yes not on graphics card or memory but it will be on storage and USB interface. So it is an improvement
        
        So having more L3 cache, more threads, more cores, improved ram support are nothing to you? YES IT DOES IMPROVES gen on gen. Take a look at this: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/pr…
        
        His GPU is a bottleneck as he cannot play new games with higher settings at the moment. His CPU and mobo were bottleneck for RTX 3000 cards (he will buy soon) as they don't support PCI-e 4.0
        
        OMGJL on 04/11/2021 - 02:51
        
        +1
        
        @wrx5: Ok, I guess we need to keep going on some glossary of terms deeper.
        
        on 3. XMP 2.0 vs 3.0 means nothing. According to intel XMP2.0 is for DDR4. It supports 2 profiles. Intel XMP 3.0 is designed specifically for DDR5. It supports up to 5 profiles (3-vendor and 2-rewirteable). Basically noobies will not know anyway, experienced user will manually set timings themselves, intermediate user will select the fastest, and if it doesn't work then the slower one, they won't bother test EVERY Profile, and compare performance difference.
        
        4.1 You are overly complexing the terms on memory bandwidth. It is literally Memory Frequency * Channel * 64bit/8 on a 8bit width memory. Keep in mind this is theoretical, with memory timing latency, as well as no application will ever fill up every command every time, real world result will be at most 90% thereabout, and A LOT worse if timing is very loose…. and DDR5 currently is VERY LOOSE, PCCG have Corsair 5200 CL38 on pre-order, which means whopping 14.61ns latency, compared to 3600CL16 with 8.88ns latency. This will hugely decrease gaming performance, as your game almost never use that much bandwidth, but will need to have low latency to keep up with the frame rate.
        
        4.2 41.6GB/s = theoretical bandwidth for dual channel 2666Mhz. This number become 58.32GB/s with causal 3733 memory OC and even higher with 4266 mem OC, keep in mind again as long as the bandwidth is relatively high, most daily task including game cares about latency ONLY. The bandwidth only comes handy when you trying to do something like video render, file compress etc. yet it will still suffer with high latency.
        
        4.3 RAM Voltage never get reduced on the fly. Not DDR1, not DDR2, not DDR3, not DDR4, not DDR5. It doesn't cost much power nor generate much heat in the first place. 2 dimms with 1.6v extreme mem OC will use around 10w power hence generating 10w heat. Your 250w intel CPU need to be taken care of much urgently, not the passively cooled memory and its power delivery phase exposed to air with no heatsink.
        
        No.5. Don't create glossary of terms yourself.
        
        No.6. 12th gen use DMI 4.0x8, compare to 9th gen DMI 3.0 x4, it is 4 times the bandwidth, not double. Although it still doesn't interest me as DMI will smart distribute bandwidth on demand, so considering the most common scenario, user with few M.2 drives and a WiFi card connected to south bridge, it request user to copy data from 1 m.2 to the other in full speed while downloading via the WiFi adapter to bottleneck the performance. I wouldn't get excited about this any time soon and please share with me what makes you so excited for it.
        
        7.1 More L3 does excite me, threads will only scale to a extend for daily task and gaming, so not really after 6~8 cores. The point is from 8th gen i7 until 11th gen there's barely any gaming performance improvement, where's that juicy 20% performance increase coming from?
        
        7.2 RAM support is a random limit intel set to force the performance stay in their desired range, and will gradually loosen the limit for people to "enjoy" performance in the next generation. That's exactly why people are forced to buy expensive Z-series motherboards.
        
        The very IMC intel uses in all coffeelakes and its refresh is exactly the same, as I told you previously you can just manually OC the crap out of it anyway. Not only that, Intel 11th gen actually steps backwards, it only supports at most 3733 in gear 1, whereas 10th gen can reliably reach at least 4266 if not higher.
        
        8.1 Remember what you said "My answer to this is: Play the new games with full settings, you will see the difference." No your very friend will NOT see any difference until he change GPU.
        
        8.2 RTX3000 or RX6000 will NOT be bottlenecked by PCIe 3.0 x16, the performance difference isn't very meaningful. Proofs here and here
        
        botchie on 04/11/2021 - 08:16
        
        @OMGJL: so….
        gaming wise
        not much improvement for 11th gen over 9th gen as I said…..specially at 1440 p where cpu load is not that high, thx
merky7 on 03/11/2021 - 14:24

I have a 10600k still in its box waiting for a mobo and GPU to finish my build. It's it worth jumping on this? Should I be worried about not getting full features i.e pcie compatibility etc? Should I switch to a 5600x + mobo? I got my 10600k under $300 nearly 12 months ago now
- divvydan on 03/11/2021 - 14:36
  
  +2
  
  Think it's a great option to pair with the 10600k. You do lose the top m.2 slot when using a 10th gen cpu but that's true of almost all z590 and B560 boards (only exception being MSI boards with <=2 m.2 slots (this starts with 3)). The board itself very easily handles an overclocked 10600k.
shaoyangdl on 03/11/2021 - 14:40

I ordered 12700k + asus z690 prime for about $861 from taobao plus shipping, not sure the weight hopefully another $40 if less than 2kg. so totally $900 is not that bad.
- taki on 03/11/2021 - 15:06
  
  Interesting. Links?
  Thunderbolt 4 is priority for me (multipurpose/fast USB-C & fewer cables).
  - OMGJL on 03/11/2021 - 22:50
    
    taobao.com search for Z690, it's all in Chinese though.
- Richardc on 04/11/2021 - 01:19
  
  Which shipping method did you use? Combined air, combined sea, or direct?
  - shaoyangdl on 04/11/2021 - 08:06
    
    Third party courier air post. Less than one week arriving Australia
- Seven8 on 08/11/2021 - 20:11
  
  Can you share the taobao link?
Mischaseb on 03/11/2021 - 15:13

Can I get the hivemind's opinion? I need to upgrade my workstation (cpu speed is the most important thing) but want to spend as little as possible. I'm currently considering an i5-11400 / 16gb build with cheap PSU and case (BYO graphics card and HDD) for $590. What is the likelihood of getting a similar spec/price based on 12th gen intel if I wait until boxing day sales?
- tellhimhesdreaming on 03/11/2021 - 15:28
  
  There's a bit of 12th gen info being leaked and looks like the i5-12400 will be 10% faster than a Ryzen 5600x which is faster than a 11400 again.
  
  So I think unlikely you'll get such a competitive price on a 12400, buuuuut maybe we'll see some more competitive pricing from AMD off the back of the 12th gen launch which would be great. Best thing about the Ryzen infrastructure is you can run a 6 core or an 18 core cpu in the same socket. Can't do that with Intel currently.
  
  I'm in a similar boat to you and am yet to pull the trigger but I'm thinking 11th gen value proposition seems very solid for a 2-3 year duration build for a circa $500 upgrade of motherboard/cpu/ram
  - Mischaseb on 03/11/2021 - 17:15
    
    Thanks for the response. Yeah, 5600x seem expensive compared to an i5-11400. I'm not desperate for the upgrade, so I might hold out until boxing day to see what offers there are, given the 12th gen looks like it will be significantly faster than 11th gen.
    - OMGJL on 04/11/2021 - 03:01
      
      Performance per dollar 5600g is also not bad, its faster than 11400 by stock, and also AMD don't use a lot of power anyway so dirt cheap B450/B550 board with minimal VRM is still good enough even for OC.
- Richardc on 04/11/2021 - 01:23
  
  Have a look at 10900f.
BargainKen on 03/11/2021 - 15:33

Gonna need a whole bottle of 10w-40 to go with that 12th Gen z690/DDR5 platform. Curious to see how the 12900k performs against the current AMD lineup with the bugfixes in place, I think the Intel will still have the edge in single core but not by as much..
bazingaa on 03/11/2021 - 16:09

good price
lesher on 03/11/2021 - 17:37

This legit seems like a pretty decent motherboard. If only it supports AMD processor…
send2riven on 03/11/2021 - 18:35

OOS now.
- send2riven on 03/11/2021 - 19:55
  
  Sorry, Wrong post
Meeeko on 03/11/2021 - 19:26

+1

$133.50 delivered here with coupon DISCOUNT15A

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MSI-Z590-PRO-WIFI-Intel-LGA-1200…
Auspcbuilda on 03/11/2021 - 19:44

Good deal
Plug on 03/11/2021 - 21:05

Mystic Light compatable as well.
pyr0maniac on 05/11/2021 - 13:46

Received mine today - packaging was most unimpressive. Going to wait for Black Friday sales to purchase CPU, memory and SSD.

This was posted 2 years 5 months 16 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

MSI Z590 PRO WiFi 6 LGA1200 ATX Motherboard $139 Delivered @ shallothead eBay

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