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WD 14TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive, USB 3.0 $325.18 + Delivery ($0 with Prime) @ Amazon US via AU

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Seems like a decent price. Comes to around $23.23/TB.

Comes with a US power connector but people have reported that you can get an AU one if you register the product with WD and contact them.

EDIT: Was gone for a time but is now back in stock.

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This is part of Black Friday / Cyber Monday deals for 2021

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  • +1

    getting closer to last year price

  • +7

    I really want to get some more for the NAS but I've spent too much recently. Probably better off culling stuff and fitting what I can onto the drives I already have. As long as there isn't another chia type explosion, prices and sizes will always get better.

    • +8

      Nah, get more drives

      • +5

        Really trying my hardest to simultaneously justify getting more drives as well as justify the need to actually store all this stuff I'm hoarding. Doesn't seem that hard to just get certain stuff again and it doesn't take that long either. Stuff that I've deem irreplaceable I've tried to keep multiple copies of. The rest, if I lose it, then I'll get another even bigger drive and go get it all again. Only thing I guess is to maybe catalogue what I think is really important on each drive.

        • +1

          I've been running unmanic to convert videos to H.265 to save some space. I've seen a reduction of about 70% vs the H.264 files. Takes a while though, but it's free space

          • +1

            @Eatoff: I've done that a little but depending on what it is the degradation in the quality isn't worth the time or size difference. For some 4k stuff yeah it does make a big difference and the quality isn't so noticeable on my setup but I've tried it with 1080p stuff and I found I didn't like the results for how long it took and how long it takes my PC out of action.

            Rather than reduce the size of each file I've tried just culling files altogether. I may go back to trying to convert stuff again but not during summer. My PC is in a room with no aircon and it gets really hot. Both the computer and I struggle big time.

            • +1

              @ozbs25: I've just been doing the codec change with no quality loss. The space saving is magic 😊

              But yes, it does take a while. I have it running on a pair of mini PCs that's only using 15watts each while transcoding, so it's pretty efficient. My guess it will take about 3 weeks for 7tb of video.

              • +2

                @Eatoff: Any chance you can link a video or tutorial on how to do this?

                And your sure there’s no quality loss?

                • +2

                  @yacman: This guy is an Aussie and runs it on unraid (like I do) - https://youtu.be/3sYu-VkXic4

                  But it runs in docker, so on just about any hardware. I have a second mini PC I loaded the free trial of unraid onto and set it to receive jobs from the main server.

    • x265

  • doesnt allow to add to cart

    • Yeah same thing is happening to me now.

  • Shows $525 for me

  • +1

    And it’s gone

  • Coming up as $525 with only 2 left for me

  • What's the point of dropping price for 15 mins? Shits me off

    Edit: And now working again?

  • +2

    Amazon's trolling us

    • +1

      the constant price changes keep people on the site. smart AF and annoying AF

  • +1

    I just order one for $325. Thanks

  • Let's me add at $325.

  • Working again? What the?
    Ordered.

  • Don’t forget 4% cashrewards!!

    • +2

      This has 0% cashback. If falls under Computers & Accessories category, which is an exclusion of Electronics.

      • Oh what!! I’m sad now ☹️

    • works for computer parts?

  • Anyone knows what drive is inside?

  • do these have decent drives?

  • $20 off $100 amex offer as well

  • Ordered !

  • +1

    Shuckable and CMR?

    • +1

      Yeah should be. 10tb and above for all manufacturers are cmr unless something changed recently.

      • I posted elsewhere on this forum but can repeat here, 18-20TB is a practical limit for PMR technology and 22-24TB iNAND SMR engineering samples were already shipped out to partners. Basically all drives above 20-22TB will have to be SMR unless there is some breakthrough in technology.

  • +1

    grabbed 4 - plan to shuck and stick in raid 5 array ( had to setup a second amazon account to get the other 2 )

    • RAIDZ1? I wasn’t aware RAID5 could do four drives unless it’s raid10

      • Can do RAIDZ1 and RAIDZ2 with 4 drives.

        RAIDZ1 with 14TB drives is not a good idea, and on top of that without enterprise/datacentre drives it ends up being a really bad idea. There is plenty online about all of this but here is a link with a fairly straight forward summary: https://www.digistor.com.au/the-latest/Whether-RAID-5-is-sti… .

      • Need a minimum of 3 for RAID 5. The last disk is the parity so capacity of a 3 drive RAID 5 is 2x the drives size (assuming all are the same capacity). For four drives it is 3x the capacity etc.

        • +1

          That's technically incorrect, parity blocks are spread across all drives in RAID5. What you're describing is known as unRAID, which is much better for home setup as it's much easier to recover data from faulted array comparing to RAID5.

    • Bought 2 myself, but not sure why I had to split them into two orders when I could've just ordered 2 straight away. LOL

      • ive ordered 2, but it wont let me get a second 2

        • setup a 2nd account, got the other 2

    • AFAIK Raid 5 is a terrible terrible idea because a rebuild is very likely to fail

      • RAID5 is fine for certain capacity and type of drives. My comment and its included link above has more detailed information.

        Also, no idea who down voted your comment.

  • +6

    good to store nut videos

  • +2

    BH Photo (backordered) and Newegg have matching prices, FYI.

    Got 2 from Amazon and 2 from Newegg.

  • hows this price compare to last year?
    Edit: found the post with 299, I guess with everything going on its not going to get much better.

  • How much Linux distros can one man have?

    • This is 14TB, a NAS can have 4-8 hard disks?
      So around 80TB? That's A LOT!!!

      I am saving $$ and not buying a NAS.
      My mobo and case can take a couple hard drives.

  • Can you use this as a plex server for Blu Ray rips

  • +5

    I bought the same SKU a few months ago, the drives inside were WD140EDGZ which are white labelled Red Plus drives. 7200RPM CMR's and easily shuckable. No tape over the 3.3v required in my UNRAID box.

    Just picked up 2 more - thanks OP.

  • Shitttttteeeeeeee bought the $449.79 18tb

  • Getting there, slowly.

  • -4

    Who would ever need 14tb?

    • +2

      Looks over at 30tb of storage with 30gb free.

      I dunno, hey.

    • +1

      People who understand how to torrent

  • these will work well in a synology ds920+ nas ?

    • +1

      Yes, I have one in my DS920+

  • Got another one for my DS920+. Thanks OP

    • only lets me buy 2

      • try harder and use your mojo.

        • yeah, ok, i setup a 2nd account

  • also f.ing finally. been waiting for these prices for literally 12 months to redundant my redundancy;) max 2 per order, work your mojo.

  • +3

    dear meatscones of ozbargain,

    all your questions are answered in previous posts over the past 12-24 months.

    without a 100% guarantee:
    - they should be shuckable
    - likely 5400 rpm helium filled white drives
    - ask you wife to order some more on her account if you reach the ordering limit on yours
    - possibly would work in your specific nas, search the forum/google
    - above 8/10tb seems to be CMR drives
    RAID:
    - try not to raid anything apart from 0 with 8TB+ as you will be waiting 2+ weeks for a rebuild vs no rebuild time
    - maybe multiple raid0 locations would be a better option
    - what is raid0 in 2021?
    - what is raid?
    - am i a raid?

    • Uhm, multiple RAID0 locations? What? RAID0 is stripe, not mirror, even in 2021.

      • sure is, with todays hardware being so cheap why not replicate to an identical (or less) server or go cheaper and backup to usb drives(don't stripe those)

        • That is a fundamentally dumb idea. RAID1 at the point where you use it will give you redundancy and doubling of bandwidth. It has nothing to do with remote replication/backup you're describing as "raid0", whatever you think it means.

          Even better option - unRAID.

          • @[Deactivated]: limetech is sort of ok… without going in to too much detail you're limited to the speed of your slowest drive but on top of that you're limited to the speed of your unraid "parity" drive

            but if you can afford it i'd go raid0 then back up. if you use raid 5 it's going to be a sloe 3 weeks for a 14tb disk rebuild. Replacement/replication server, you could renumber it and off you go. then replace the dead disk and recreate the original array and sync back in the original server

            • @barg99: How many weeks it'll take you to replicate 14TB to remote location and pull it back when required?

              • @[Deactivated]: "with todays hardware being so cheap why not replicate to an identical (or less) server"

                replicate at home, it's cheap. then to USB or just to USB depending on your budget.

                • @barg99: Just do RAID1 or 10.

                  Thank me later.

                  And for your own benefit, learn the god damn terminology and stop calling file level copying "raid0" which is block-level operation.

                  • @[Deactivated]: /mirroring may give you some read performance increase but it still has to write to 2 drives. plus you lose the capacity of the second drive.

                    striping a mirror is even more expensive. this is the ideal solution, can you sponsor mine

    • "try not to raid anything apart from 0 with 8TB+"

      That is a terrible recommendation. 1 disk for 1 storage location leads to 1 physical point of failure (the single drive). 2 disks for 1 storage location (RAID0) leads to 2 independent points of failure where either point failing leads to failure of a single storage location, increasing an overall chance of data loss. To make it worse, with that much data, that is a lot of possible data loss.

      RAID is not a backup, and it is not a good idea to have a RAID configuration that increases the chance of data loss. RAID0 has uses, but purely on its own, it does the opposite of providing redundancy and/or protection.

  • +1

    Thanks, got 2, been waiting for a deal like this

  • Got one, thanks.

    I suppose we need to tape it? How about Seagate ones? Don't remember seeing any discussion under Seagate deals.

  • I knew I had to wait when I bought the 18tb but…

    • I'd rather have a bigger drive…. so I can lose more data.

  • worth shucking for a CCTV nvr?

    • they're cheap NOW, reliable, there is cheaper options but these ones or similar do about 200MB/s sequential read/write.

      I reckon would be overkill for cctv but…maybe get purple ones or whatever they are cctv needs reliability not performance

      • Is the case broken after shucking?

  • So are these 5400 or 7200 rpm?

    Or there is no 100% way to know?

  • $525 at 6am

  • Back at $325 but no stock until December 29

  • +3

    16TB available for $397 here:
    https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08KY4P7L5?th=1

    • Not as good value, but larger drive generally cost more per TB.

      • It's $1.58/TB more expensive, I understand it's OzB but that's actually ridiculous.

        • you mean that you would pay the extra $ and get the 16TB version?

          • @congo: If it was $5 more yeh ok, but it's only $1.58/TB more, pretty much the same

  • now waiting for a good special on the synology DS920+ nas

    • I'm waiting for an amazing deal on the DS220j, I already bought 2x4Tb drives (I'll use this 14tb for games rom and switch collection)

  • +1

    Mine all arrived today - doing preclear now:

    All report 7200rpm!

    Device model: WDC WD140EDGZ-11B1PA0
    Serial number: ******
    LU WWN device id: 5 000cca 290ce959c
    Firmware version: 85.00A85
    User capacity: 14,000,519,643,136 bytes [14.0 TB]
    Sector sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
    Rotation rate: 7200 rpm
    Form factor: 3.5 inches
    Device: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
    ATA version: ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
    SATA version: SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
    Local time: Mon Dec 6 15:53:46 2021 AEDT
    SMART support: Available - device has SMART capability.

    • Hello. So these are WD140EDGZ white labelled Red Plus drives?

      Still waiting for mine. Thanks.

      • What did you find out?

  • I got some delivered today. Whilst they report 7200rpm i'm pretty sure they're firmware locked to 5400rpm like the previous edfz etc models.

    I was googling the drive model before shucking it and found it seems you can bypass the firmware block by running short smart test on the drive and increase it's performance a chunk, around 30%. But only for the length of the transfer. So unless your copy the whole drive in one chunk or doing a stress test or rebuild on it(yeah 14tb disk raid rebuild some people do it..) you're probably not going to get a consistent performance gain for normal operations.

    ANyways Since im doing a stress test on it i thought I'd check and it works.

    badblocks -b4096 -w -s -vvv /dev/sdb
    #
    Total DISK READ: 0.00 B/s | Total DISK WRITE: 201.11 M/s
    Current DISK READ: 0.00 B/s | Current DISK WRITE: 201.22 M/s

    smartctl -t short /dev/sdb
    smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.4.0-86-generic] (local build)
    #
    Total DISK READ: 0.00 B/s | Total DISK WRITE: 269.01 M/s
    Current DISK READ: 0.00 B/s | Current DISK WRITE: 269.23 M/s

    Whether it's a good idea to do this stress testing/rebuilding and making the drive run at speeds it wasn't mean to…remains to be seen. ;-)

  • Maybe like breaking in a new petrol engine 👍😁

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