Seems DSE must have some fresh stock and it's the same deal as a couple weeks back. http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/66403
2x 4 packs of AA Eneloop batteries for $19.99 + delivery (no pickup available). Postage to 2500 is $4.95, I suspect that its a fixed price postage…
Doubt I need to rehash for everyone why these are better than the cruddy NiMHs like Energizers, if not refer to the comments in the previous deals for these batteries!
so please JungleJumble beat these prices and throw us some AAA loving as well
+1 on a deal for AAA Eneloops; looking back at previous Eneloop bargains on OzBargain, almost all of them were for AAs. :)
Right now at JungleJumble 8 packs (8xAA, 8xAAA or 4xAA+4xAAA) are $5 more than this DSE offer once you factor in shipping:
http://junglejumble.com.au/sanyo-eneloop-4x-aa-4x-aaa-nimh-r…
http://junglejumble.com.au/sanyo-eneloop-8x-aa-nimh-recharga…
http://junglejumble.com.au/sanyo-eneloop-8x-aaa-nimh-recharg…
Thanks. Just bought a pack, dont even have a charger lol
lol good investment
Excellent value there. Nice one!
I'm also hanging out for a good AAA eneloop deal. Will be all over it like a rash if a good one pops up.
Buy from amazon.
AAA i've gotten from amazon seem to be fake.
How can you tell if they are fake or not?
They are not packed the same as aus eneloops. these are sold by amazon not some reseller
Is there a recommended cheap smart charger for these?
I've got a couple of the Eneloop chargers that came with 4x AAs (eg) in a previous deal, but they are "dumb" and will charge any battery you put in them for 16 hours, regardless of the battery's current remaining capacity.
These types of chargers are not ideal, but are probably cheaper in the long run. They aren't nearly as bad for the battery as many people think.
Overcharging the battery over its lifetime would probably reduce its cycle life to about ~1000 cycles (reduction of 1/3). That's still 3 years of charging it daily. If you use four batteries a day, this two-pack would last 6 years if you are overcharging it, instead of 8 years. This gives you a reduction of 2 years, or a loss of about $7 every six years. (Since the batteries cost $20 for six years). (actually the materials lifetime in the battery may be dead before this time anyway).
If you bought a more expensive charger, say $80 instead for a $20 one, it would take more than 50 years to recoup that cost. And that's assuming you cycle the batteries daily.
Different story if you use the charger for charging more than just these batteries!
If you want my opinion, get this charger for about $15 delivered. Delivery times can be quite ridiculous though.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/soshine-hi-tech-lcd-nimh-nicd-s…
uh.. and just so you know, NiMH batteries should get hot when they are about 75% full, so you can estimate how long it'll take to get full, and then just pull out the plug.
Thanks.
I've got about 16x AA and 12x AAA eneloops. I probably only charge 2-4 batteries a week. Spending $50+ on a charger seemed a little excessive.
+1 for the Soshine charger. Love that little guy.
So you cant charge with a normal NIMH charger? Dont want to spend $50 on a battery charger as well
It charges in a normal NiMH charger.
Thank You! That's important to know :)
I just bought these batteries from amazon. Works out cheaper if you pay shipping with other items like a smart charger . Good deal though
Which charger did you get from amazon? Been looking for a true smart charger for some time.
I got this one
http://www.amazon.com/La-Crosse-Technology-Battery-Charger/d…
and yes it works well. It even revived a few of my dead batts
Can I just be the first to say that Dick Smith can go jump! The "Game On" sale turned out to be complete unorganised rubbish for my local stores. The times I've been in there over the last few months I've been totally ignored as a customer. Online is a mess, in-store is a mess. I'm done Dick!
That said, +1 for the deal, especially for those that missed out on the last. Shame the delivery isn't included like last time though!
That's cause Dick has not owned it for many many years. When Dick had it, it was great, now it's just another supermarket with the occasional good deal.
Yeah dont blame Mr Dick Smith.
The store was excellent when it was his.
Woollies have totally F-ed it up.
Where are all the electronic components???
Bye-bye core business model…
DSE probably couldn't compete, Jaycar now own most of that market, and Altronics in some cities.
DSE went downhill after Dick Smith sold the business to Woolies. DSE has now become very much like what Tandy Electronics were, before Woolies bought them too and merged them with DSE.
So now it's Jaycar and Altronics for electronics hobbyists, and DSE for the average public. There's a lot more people in the "average public" group, so they'll probably survive.
Well thats pretty much the point.
Dick Smith (the man) build a business over 20 years around the electronics hobbiest.
Woollies dismantled that all based on dollar value per sale vs floorspace or some other MBE model and in doing so alienated their loyal customer base.
They don't really have a "purpose" in the market now. JB and many others can sell mobiles/plasmas cheaper.
Mind you, even Jaycar's components side seem to be shrinking, and I find half the time they have no stocks.. (well the one closest to me anyway)
At least when I ask at Jaycar they generally know what I'm after at least.. After going in to DSE a little while back just to get a 3.5mm stereo plug that their website said was in stock (and of course couldn't be found once I got there) it was a mission trying to get the girl to understand what I wanted (I still don't think she got it in the end)
Use Altronics if you have one near you. Good components, knowledgeable staff. Jaycar is handy but I often find some the component quality a bit "iffy".
If you can wait for delivery its all about Futurlec and Tayda electronics. So, so much cheaper.
If mail order is acceptable, there are a few other companies to add to the list. Element14 (previously called Farnell) have a wide range, and some prices are good, some hugely expensive. Currently free shipping for web orders over $45. RS Components (it's short for RadioSpares) have a smaller range, same variability in pricing, and free shipping for web orders. Beware that both Element14 and RS Components list the GST-free prices on the web, GST is only shown when you get to the checkout stage.
Digikey and Mouser, both American companies, are pushing hard into the Australian marketplace. Both have huge ranges, much larger than the Australian companies. Prices are usually VERY good, but they have different deals for shipping depending on whether you are shopping in USD or AUD. Check both options, sometimes there is a substantial difference in your total cost.
Because of the shipping charges, Digikey and Mouser are usually only competitive with the Australian providers if you are buying at least $50 worth of components, or the Australian providers or overpriced, or there is something you just can't buy from the Australian providers. Delivery from both usually takes 3-5 working days, an order placed on Friday usually arrives on Tuesday.
Good to know Russ.
I have always been jealous of Mouser - what a range! I still use their device selector thing for just about time I need a component but don't know its part number. Its great. I haven't checked the shipping for actually buying something there for years because shipping used to be prohibitive to AU.
I am about to buy up big though. I just discovered heaps of common Jfets have gone obsolete in TO-92 form, so its last drinks before the prices skyrocket.
I have a list on the desk right now. Will check the "new" Mouser shipping deals.
Another company out there is X-ON Electronics, they are a Perth-based company and similar to RS and Element14 (although I beleive those two are overseas companies). Ony downside is they charge a flat $15 shipping for orders under $200. Recently looking for an automotive PCB mounted relay made by NEC they seemed to be the only local stockists….
Not fixed price postage OP. $10 postage to here which make the jumblehungle prices far more competitive as it means I don't have to deal with DSE.
I tried a few different post codes around the country and all were same $4.95. Maybe you are just in a more regional sort of area?!
Got my Eneloops from JungleJumble yesterday .Took 17 days to arrive.
Not sure about this can someone check: link takes me to dse site that shows image of two 4-packs but title says 4 eneloops only, for $19.95.
The title does read like only one 4-pack, but the description says two 4-packs.
This bundle contains the following items
ENELOOP 4 x AA Ready-To-Use NiMH Batteries
2 x ENELOOP 4 x AA Ready-To-Use NiMH Batteries
Thanks for clarifying. Just ordered two 8-packs :)
Says bundle in the description.
2 x ENELOOP 4 x AA Ready-To-Use NiMH Batteries
Sanyo ENELOOP 4 x 2000mAh AA ready to use rechargeable batteries are recommended for use in high drain devices such as digital cameras. Slow discharge and high capacity, these batteries can be recharged over 1500 times with no memory effect.
This item can be bought separately for
$21.99
You are buying 8 (EIGHT)x AA battery.
(end of discussion (of the # battery pieces))
I ordered this a week ago, arrived today. Definitely 2 x 4-packs, despite the confusing title.
Thanks OP!
Thanks!
Damn, cant buy atm
"We are currently undertaking maintenance on the Dick Smith website to improve your shopping experience. Please try visiting dicksmith.com.au again later.
If you have an urgent enquiry, contact our Customer Service team on 1300 366 644 (9am - 5pm Monday to Friday AEST) or visit your local Dick Smith store"
Due to the G27 blunder….
Hope they honor the G27 blunder!
I'll wait until they become cheaper. I also have some nimh batteries that are over 10 years old, still work fine.
When I got cordless I got batteries with all the phones, all aaa dect, infact was cheaper to buy additional dect phones than the batteries.
Anyway, I would not worry too much about recharagables, buy the cheapest alkalines and recharge them afew times.
I doubt you will see 8 x genuine Eneloops much, if any cheaper.
"buy the cheapest alkalines and recharge them a few times" is very shonky advice, in my opinion unless you actually like cleaning up leaked electrolyte…
BTW no offense, but I dont want people trying this and finding out the hard way. Recharging alkaline batteries is very dubiuos. It can be done, but it has a very high risk of leaking, even exploding if the current is too high.
The best small battery solution is to buy Eneloops and a decent charger = problem solved for years to come.
Even DS have sold cheaper when included free shipping!
Ah good point about the shipping.
lol yeah great advice, my dad thought he was super clever recharging alkalines until they leaked and wrecked the charger….
site is down…
Can any charger expert tell me if my Duracell 1 hour fast charger is OK and not damaging these Eneloop. It's exactly like this one:
http://www.epinions.com/content_195330018948?sb=1
Because of the faster charge, you would get greater internal battery resistance during the charging cycle. The increased resistance would cause greater temperature rises in the battery, and reduce the battery's life. (NiMH should ideally use a trickle down charger, where the charging rate decreases as the battery nears full capacity).
Not really sure about Eneloops, and their specific chemistry and built-in safety, but you should still be able to get about 50%-70% of the cycle number, so from 750 to 1000 cycles instead of 1500.
Hmm…doesn't sound good as it will suck almost half the life out of the battery for the convenience of faster charge.
site has been down for an hour.
Admins are recharging the server's batteries. Back in an hour…
Yeah site is still down..
Guess they are re-charging..
(haha get it !? its a eneloop deal!) :) :)
How does this compare to the Glitter version (http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/64276) current wise? Are they both 2000mAh? I heard of 2500mAh ones, not sure which ones are they.
Also, is it safe/doesn't ruin the battery if it were to be charged at 1.0A?
Yep same/same.
Safe if you are using a smart charger.
Will probably fry your batteries without.
Also when stating current, you gotta nominate the voltage. I'm sure you mean @ ~1.5v charging voltage though. Just saying…
Charging at 1.0A is ok if you take it out when it's done charging.
At that charge rate, it'll take 2 hours to fully charge a completely drained battery (1.0A x 2h = 2000mAh).
The slower the better though. 0.2A is a good charge rate for these batteries, but it will take five times longer though.
Thanks. I have a hobby charger. It can charge from anywhere between 0.1A - 2.0A. I guess I would charge these at around 0.5A and push it to 1.5A if in a hurry!
Just received 1 bundle that I ordered earlier in the week.
La Crosse BC-700 Battery Charger, anyone in Melbourne interested? Bought 2 from last Amazon sales.
But these were free postage last two occasions, why the excitement?
How much are you selling the charger for fmn? BTW the DSE site is back up again.
$38 for pick up in Carlton. (Bought it for $37.5)
Already bought AA from last deal, wish these were AAA instead.
Hi,
Kind of new to charging batteries. So it seems like rechargeable AA's likes to be cycled - i.e. full discharge then full charge.
So how would you know what voltage to discharge them to, using these AA batteries?
Actually no, fully discharging them is a bad idea left over from NiCad days with memory effect etc and if discharged to 0v can damage NiMh cells quite badly. "Empty" would be a discharge down to 0.8/0.9 v. They prefer to be stored at or positive of 50%.
You will notice Eneloops are shipped @ ~ 75% capacity.
Umm, so if I wanted to cycle it, best would to discharge it down to 0.8v and charge it back up to 1.2v?
Yep, but charge it to 1.5v (1.48v Maha).
It will settle back down over the next few days to around 1.25v. But its the total current it absorbs @ 1.5v that tells the real story.
Best bet: get yourself a Maha C9000 and it will do all this for you automatically, including cycling them as many times as you want.
Cycling NiMh batteries is only okay if you can INDIVIDUALLY discharge each battery. If you discharge them in a pack, there will be some variability in the capacity of each battery, and one cell in the pack will go flat first. Continuing to discharge the pack with then reverse-charge that battery, which definitely damages that battery. If you are discharging a pack, it's hard to tell if a single cell has gone flat.
If you want to discharge the batteries, I recommend you buy some singe-cell battery holders from Jaycar, and solder a 2.2 ohm 5W resistor across each. The resistor will get warm but not too warm when discharging a battery, and because you are individually discharging the batteries, no harm is done even if the voltage goes down to zero. You can easily tell if the discharge is over, the resistors stop feeling warm.
One problem: if the battery voltage does get below about 0.7V, many chargers will not be able to detect the battery when you try to charge it. Perhaps try a 1-ohm resistor in series with a 1-Amp diode instead, so the discharge mostly stops at about 0.7V?
Also, NiMh batteries are considered dead flat at 1.1V. They have given up more than 90% of their energy by the time they reach that voltage. Fully charged, you should be seeing about 1.4V as the batteries come off the charger.
Good idea Russ.
Use a 1n4001 should be perfect and quit ~0.7/8v
Will overcharging degrade these batteries?
der
I was hoping someone would make "smart batteries" which stop accepting charge when they're full. Oh well.
Some lithium batteries do have this but it makes them larger and more expensive. The extra price would also steer away those who are too cheap to buy a good charger that does not over charge batteries.
Don't use those crap chargers and get a good charger like a La Crosse Technology or Maha Powerex and never overcharge a battery again.
You can largely eliminate the damage done by overcharging, if you can control the charging current.
"Trickle" charging is usually defined as a charge current of C/30, where C is the capacity of the battery. For example, a 2100mAh battery charged at 2100/30 = 70mA is being trickle charged. Charge the battery for 48 hours at this rate, and it doesn't matter if the battery was fully charged to start with, very little or no damage will be done.
Don't leave the batteries on trickle charge for more than a few days though, or you'll discover a different failure mechanism called dendrite formation, which shorts out the battery. And you should occasionally use the battery, because repeated trickle charging without discharge also causes dendrite formation.
finally i managed to get these before they run OOS!
These aren't shiny enough for my liking :P
Anybody using these with Xbox 360 controllers? If so how long do they usually last?
At least 30 hours of accumulated gameplay.
I used a new set of the glitter eneloops in my controller before I started Mass Effect 3 and I haven't had to charge them yet.
How do you get 8, when you add to cart it says 1x 4AA. Is deal dead?
The order says: S4414WEBB 1x ENELOOP 4AA Ready-To-Use NiMH Batteries.
Just confirmed from DSE on phone. You get 1 of S4414WEBB not 1 x 4pack
Description:
S4414WEBB: Boxed Contents 2 x Eneloop 4 x AA NiMH Battery packs.
If it not 8 I am going to return them.
I just bout this charger, it looks good.
http://www.amazon.com/Maha-Powerex-MH-C9000-Advanced-Analyze…
I don't see the deal here…once you add postage, it's not worth it.
If you can pickup at that price, then it's another story!
I agree wholeheartedly. "Free Delivery" to where exactly? Within 30 minutes of Sydney's Domestic Terminal?
Although with $4.95 postage it is still cheaper than JungleJumble.
And it's not Click&Collect, you can't do pick-ups.
agreeded, 4.95 shipping kills the deal for me.
I should have invested in 8 Glitters for $20 when the deal was back on before.
Find a cheaper price on these??? Even with $4.95 shipping these are still atleast $4 (15%) cheaper than elsewhere….
Thanks OP, I bought 3 items together, postage are still $4.95
Got the tomtom after retry 15 times, as site crash and empty my cart and knock me off.
Out of stock.
Overnight shipping to Perth.
ordered yesterday, arrived this morning.
$2.50 per battery you would have to be clinically brain dead not to invest
thank you poster especially for not begging for us to be gentle and kind towards your first deal :O
by why oh why does it have to be DSE, lol i suppose he earned some 'street cred' for some the other day…
me, im just full of rage so please JungleJumble beat these prices and throw us some AAA loving as well
Don't be a dick and get in quick!!!