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Hyundai 2.6kW Inverter Smart Split System Air Conditioner $599 ($589 with Kogan FIRST) Delivered @ Kogan

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OzBargains favourite air conditioner is on sale again with free shipping from our friends at Kogan.
Great air conditioner.

Now before all the the experts flood the deal with mUsT gEt A mITsUbIsHI iTs qUaLiTy tHiS oNe wIlL bLoW uP comments.

Yes it’s a cheap aircon, no it’s not as good as some other brands, yes it will cool or heat your house efficiently and you won’t actually notice any difference
These are made by Midea in China who also make kelvinator, Electrolux and many others using the same components under licence.
I’ve installed countless Midea made aircons and the only real difference that I can tell is the quality of the copper is of lower grade than what you get in some other brands and the app is a little crappy but works.

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                    • @Ozbargainasaurus: Ah right, that's not too bad at all. Did you get a quote instore?

                      • @anoykw: Yes quote for install in-store and they organise everything. Initially they quoted me $599, but I said Harvey Norman doing for $500, which they matched. Then they knocked 100 off the unit (plus got another $100 cashback from GG REALCASH promotion).

                    • @Ozbargainasaurus: If anyone still interested, the installer wanted photos. So I either have to get a couple meters of zigzag pipework to go around meter box and hot water system (so unit is centred on inside wall) or put it against one side of room. Zigzag is $370 extra (220 + 150 wall bracket), putting on one side of room just the extra for the wall bracket (150).

        • +1

          If it's a bedroom it has probably has a window. Consider getting a window rattler type. I've been cooling a 3 bedroom house for several years using a 2.7kW Kelvinator. It was the largest I could get with a 10 amp plug (so it plugs it into any common 10A power point). I hate the heat and run it more than most people would. So if I can cool an entire 3 bedroom house down to "comfortable", then you would have no problem with one bedroom (unless it's not insulated, directly in the sun, on the edge of a volcano, etc).

          Anyone who owns a few more tools than a screwdriver can fit one. You just sit the empty metal box in the open window, tilting it down a little at the back (mine needs about a 10mm drop) so water it removes from the air can drip out, secure the box in that position with a few screws in the upright sides of the box and/or or a couple of brackets below the box on the outside wall. Then measure and frame-in any gaps due the window that is now open permanently using marine plywood and/or a spray can of expanding foam. Then lift and slide the actual aircon unit into its metal box, screw in the anti break in lock and/or earth wire, and plug it in. You might need a couple of small blocks cut at an angle between the box and brackets (like door chocks) so the back can tilt down.

          • @[Deactivated]: Depends on your house too, I have the same unit as you that came with my house, it's very popular. For me it really only cools about 5-6 degrees from ambient, and only in the lounge room, the rest of my house in an inferno (fibro and poorly insulated). I considered swapping it out for the 4.1 as I actually have a 15A circuit, but CBF

            I have been considering fitting a second one but decided to just use a fan as I will be moving soon. But yes very easy for anyone to install and way better than a portable unit

    • +1

      That's insane! I am getting some installed in QLD at the moment — Mitsubishi HI supply & standard install it is $1400 for 2.5kw.

      • Depends where you are, who is doing the job for you, availability of model, and complexity/difficulty of install.

        If you can find someone to install in the current frenzied home building market, standard back to back install of a split with external on the ground (no wall bracket) is around $700 to $750 plus whatever they'll sell you the AC for. Bunnings is currently $799 less $100 Mitsubishi Cashback on a typical 2.5kW standard Avanti (not the Plus). So around $1400-$1500 all up after Cashback is around on the money for a straightforward simple 2.5kW split system back to back wall install, the caveat no extra dedicated circuit wiring (as typically required for a 7kW or 9kW unit), power panel breakers or wall brackets required.

        • I dont see any cashback promotion anywhere?

          • @essent1al: I am interested in this too. Looking to place an order for 3x MHIA Avanti models this week.

            • @vitawheat: Just checked. Ended. Must've been a winter only promotion this year.

              Finished end of September. "Purchase an eligible single split system, ducted system or and multi split system between 1 July and 30 September 2021."

              Was $100 back on 2.5kW Avantis, more on larger kW and Plus units.

    • +3

      Honestly get Good Guys or Harvey Norman to match the price and get install done through them, it’s works out to a standard price for you and the installer is happy with volume installs.
      I prefer my installs booked through them rather than having to deal with phone calls from one time customers.
      Just make sure you read the terms of the install conditions and it fits your situation.
      Most of the time if you need a little bit more copper or gas it’s not too much of an issue as we can give and take from the volume business.

    • +1

      Kogan offers the aircon install for $699. Anybody tried this?
      https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/standard-install-26kw-split-sys…

    • +1

      if you're going this approach to install yourself, why not just pick up a unit off marketplace/gumtree? 7kw systems can be had for as low as $100-$300… why spend thousands on "new"?

    • +1

      Woah, you can get a ducted system for the whole house for $5-6K.

    • look for mappliance online they have a sale, cost me 1500 till now but should get a cashback via their website finishing on 13/02

  • -1

    I think it is way better to spend the extra $$$ and get a oversized unit for your area as it will cool the area faster and then you can increase the temp to something normal after the initial cooling 10 minutes, then to get a smaller unit and then leave it struggling to cool the area.

    • The bigger unit will also have a higher efficiency when it ramps down compared to a smaller unit running flat out.

      • No it won't because it will turn on and off more often.

        • -1

          it will turn on and off more often.

          Inverter air conditioners, like the one in this deal, don't "turn on and off" like air conditioners from 20 years ago. The gradually increase and decrease the cooling, that's the whole reason why air conditioners started using inverters.

          • @Russ: Yes I know however there is still a minimum it will run at.

            If the unit is oversized then that minimum may still be to high to work effectively so the unit will still need to turn on and off

            • -1

              @spaceflight:

              the unit will still need to turn on and off

              Quote: "In the Inverter AC, the compressor runs all the time and never stops."

              From https://www.indiatoday.in/information/story/what-is-inverter…

              Here's an article from LG (an air-conditioner manufacturer), saying the same thing:
              https://www.lg.com/ph/support/product-help/CT20192035-201516…

              • @Russ: Yes I know however there is still a minimum it will run at.

                If the minimum is making the room too hot or cold then it needs to stop running or the temperature will be wrong and you won't be comfortable.

                You agree also forgetting that there are fans and not just the compressor that need to run.

                • -1

                  @spaceflight:

                  it needs to stop running or the temperature will be wrong

                  My understanding is that at the lowest speed, its efficiency approaches 0%, so it doesn't actually cool. So it could continue running without cooling. However that's less efficient, and they do stop, for example when the outside air temperature drops, so I'll concede the point on this.

                  Not that there is really any problem with starting and stopping, other than the compressor noise being intermittent. Starting and stopping doesn't wear anything out in an inverter air conditioner, it's not like the old-style air conditioners where the thermostat had electrical contacts that could wear out or weld together. None of the fan motors have electrical contacts either.

                • @spaceflight: This is 100% correct.

                  Inverter systems have a minimum output they can't ramp down below, typically something like 30% of the rated output.

                  If your running demand is less than this, then the compressor will just cycle on and off like a non-inverter unit, and you lose efficiency.

    • +2
  • What about the warranty, 5 years on the website? I don't believe there is Hyundai Air Con in Australia. Will the warranty be under TCL or Kogan instead?

  • +3

    I'm in 2 minds about cheaper airconds such as the Hyundai, Midea, kelvinator, TCL, etc.

    Part of me is thinking, well, air conds have been around for so long, they should be able to manufacturer them so they are reliable. It would cost them money if it didn't last 5 years as warranty claims are expensive and costly for the brand.

    On the other hand, saving $100 or $200 (compared to a top tier brand) isn't much in the overall scheme of things when you have to pay another $600-700 to install, so total cost is $1,200 vs $1,400.

    The top tier brands are generally better built, quieter, more efficient and hopefully more reliable, so could be cheaper in the long run.

    I'd still expect the cheaper brands to last 10-15 years and 15-20 years for the top tier brands.

    Edit- I installed a 2.6kw Kevinator in my rental property that cost me $500 (+ $400 install cash) about 10 years ago. Still going strong as I'd get a call if it wasn't. Never been serviced, not sure if the tenants knows how to clean the filters.

    Gone are the days when you could buy a Panasonic or Fujitsu for under $600 after cashback/ebay promo.

    • I am +1 on this one as well but i like to keep in mind where i live etc how often during a summer season I turn it on is there enough windows etc that I can open at night to get the breeze in.

  • +2

    You install them… But you don't live with them. A Mitsubishi's biggest advantage is that it's quiet, which is a necessity in a home environment.

    • Mitsubishi's biggest advantage is that it's quiet

      Neighbours have Mitsubishis. I have 2 new Hisense units. Theirs have this vibration noises. Ours is whisper quiet. But then they might just be on full blast on 35C day trying to hit 18C.

    • The majority of outdoor units are 58ish decibels, Mitsubishi usually advertise their indoor unit on the lowest fan setting which catches people out.

  • Hyundai also makes Aircon????

    • +2

      They make ships too.

      • that is cool, Hyundai ships with Hyundai Aircon

    • If that blows your mind, go to a club on the weekend and see if you can find any red Mitsubishis.. Those Japanese and Korean conglomerates will do anything.

  • Anyone using Hisense Aircon here? Are they good?

    • The Hisense HSA25R Split System Reverse Cycle Air Conditioner is around $450 if you can get staff discount.

      • From the good guys? I don't know how to get staff discount unfortunately.

        • From JB-HI-Fi which also owns the Good Guys.

      • Got this unit and also a HSA35R. Can vouch they are quiet. Running them on 26C fan speed 2 or 3 during the current 30C+ days in Melbourne. Outdoor unit is quiet compared to my neighbour's Mitsubishis

    • Yeah I bought one from this deal https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/589652 and works great. Cools an oversized master bedroom in under 30 mins. Whisper quiet. Local guy installed for $650

  • Really keen, but no one I could find to install unless they supply their (overpriced) unit.

    Any one know of someone who is willing to install in Regional Vic / Gippsland area?

    • I have used these guys before for various installs, they supply and install Toshiba units when I used them last (2020) and have always found them to be top quality and quick on installs. https://rrhs.com.au/
      Done a few jobs in Frankston, Drouin and Warragul with them.

      • Looking at their website, don't they only do commercial?

        • Nope they also do res

  • if anyone has one, could you please confirm if it has auto swing left right and up and down. i know the cheaper a/c tends to not have auto swing left right.
    thanks

  • Pardon my ignorance but isnt the warranty to be claimed through the manufacturer and not Kogan?

    • You can claim it through either.

  • Rather buy Kelvinator 2.5kw for $630 at ggcommercial

  • Any thoughts on this one with 7 year warranty?

    https://www.airwaresales.com.au/product/bonaire-optima-l-ser…

  • +2

    I got the Kelvinator from the last deal works like a dream to be honest its only cooling my bedroom (Sydney weather) 1900 house in lidcombe. I paid roughly 500 to have it replace the one that came with the house because it was flood damaged. I think its about 700 for a fresh install off the meter box to separate CB etc.

    Cheap aircon are the best does the same thing i only use it in summer every now and then. Just get a known brand so when people rock to your house they don't think you are cheap.

    • +1

      Haha then this brand is the best of both worlds. Instead of a "Kogan" AC, ppl will see a Hyundai AC. They know the brand but don't know that they make AC too (vicariously) and so they will not think you are cheap. But if they see a TCL, Kogan etc then they might think otherwise.

      • +1

        you got the wrong kinda 'people' visiting

        • +2

          Not me buddy. I am a hermit and am not brand conscious. I am simply going along with his opinion.

          • +1

            @axlfan: Haha, Its like someone rocks up to your house and see Hyundai AC. They might think oh its competing against Mitsubishi in the AC market now.

            Brand name or household name usually sells the idea that you have a decent quality one

  • anyone know what size copper lineset the 5.2 kW hyundai unit uses?

    • It should be 1/2” and 5/8” you should be able to get the manual from Kogan to confirm

  • +1

    This is a good deal and I am not averse to Hyundai - having been impressed by their portable air conditioner, but for the time it takes to deliver the air con and then install it, you're probably looking at the end of summer by the time its on the wall. Depending on where you live in Oz that may not be appealing.

    I would be inclined to wait for more deals that will probably be around in Feb when companies are trying to offload air conditioners, as the boat is substantially missed for this year.

  • Does anyone know if you could save yourself the install of a separate app and just pair with the Tuya or Kogan Smarterhome app?
    From the look of the Wifi install manual on the Kogan site it looks to be the same…

    • They are the same however they have used different apis this is a good starting point though.

      https://github.com/mac-zhou/midea-ac-py

      If you pull off the front cover there is a Broadcom usb stick which does the smarts and you can get another one and flash it or try to flash yourself.

      ( I haven’t done this personally )

  • Stupid question but how much does it cost to install these? Based in VIC

    • So far I've been quoted $1-2K when talking to independent installers. $700 if purchased from JB or Good Guys.

    • Around $700 back to back.
      Extra for wall bracket, double storey or complex.
      Full certificate of electrical safety
      PM if you want details

  • +1

    For $100 extra I had a Fujitsu 2.5kw installed a month or so ago by a local Melbourne company. 5 years warranty for peace of mind. Back to back installation was only $500. If you can find a company that buys lots of units this is not a deal when you can get a better made unit for an extra $100. Issue is with warranty as well. Fujitsu are based in Australia, unsure of Hyundais warranty conditions?

    • Which installer did you use?

      • +2

        Air Concepts Australia. 0431 872 515..spoke to the Director Leigh as I got a couple of quotes and he was $200-$400 cheaper and wanted to find out why… He explained they do a lot of commercial jobs as well as residential so they buy the units in bulk so that’s we’re the cost savings come from. Units running well and super quiet. My old system was a Mitsubishi. Was good but super loud, the Fujitsu is really quiet.

        • Thanks

        • cheers Nadia for the recommendation, called up and was quoted $1300 for a single story back to back install for a 2.5kW fuji, seems reasonable!

  • Does good guys/HN/Bunning provide installers? Are they recommended?

    • GG use contractors to install and they are fine. However super busy (in Melb)

  • I'll only buy a Hyundai if it's endorsed by Tony Barber.

  • Anyone in Inner West Sydney can recommend a good installer by any chance? Reading this thread suggests that Mitsubishi Heavy Industries AC are no longer recommended?

    • Did you manage to find someone?

      • Not yet. We have several quotes but are holding off because we’ve been burnt so many times by scumbags.

  • Might be a good place to ask. Why does it cost so much to install aircons? I have an aircon that I want to replace that would just be a direct swap no additional work but I'm still being told $700-$800 to install in Sydney. They would be mounting it inside exactly where my current one is and connecting it to existing cabling & pipes and the little concrete slab for it to sit on is already there for the outdoor unit. I don't think there could be an easier install than mine.

    • +1

      Definitely no expert but I know with my older unit I think it had an older style gas and the pipes were different? If it was as simple as popping the new unit in I doubt it would be that much. Sounds a bit excessive. Have you asked them to break down the quote via the phone? From the 4-5 quotes I received they won’t break it down via email as it’s too time consuming (I’m assuming they get a lot of people shopping around) but they were all happy to explain the work involved via phone. Find someone who is happy to explain it to you and not just brush you off.

      • Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned. Current aircon is only 3-4 years old (long story) everything is current not older style. A couple of places even confirmed they won't need to replace anything it would be a "direct swap" price. Which is why it's driving me crazy because I paid for a full install only a few years ago which was a lot more work.

        I haven't asked them to break it down over the phone, although they don't seem interested in even explaining why it's still the same price as someone who is getting a new install. I'll keep calling around.

    • +1

      The pipes are usually a different diameter and gauge for the new system so the old system all gets thrown out along with the piping, and if its a bigger system, it might need its own breaker at the electrical distribution board.

      So it ends up being a uninstall, disposal and install, there is more work involved.

      Call someone from fb marketplace you should be able to get someone to do it for cheaper, make sure they're licensed, and here is the problem where you won't know the quality of work until they finish, the biggest thing to look out for, when it comes to ac installs is the piping, if thats done right, you'll be sweet, if its off just a bit, then it will leak gas and system will stop working in a few days/weeks/months .. and if they're a bit dodgy, they probably wont come back at all..

  • The place I used gave me a certificate, I think this may only apply in VIC though. Under the VBA they need to warranty their work for a period of 7 years. Unsure if NSW has a similar system, but as long as they supply you with certificates you are covered for poor workmanship alongside with the manufacturer warranty.

  • Anyone know a good place to find a full ducted design/supply/install in Melbourne?

    • +1

      Hi BobLim, not sure if the company I used does ducted but might be worth giving them a call as a starting point. Air Concepts Australia- 0431 872 515

  • Does anyone know what the wait time is for Bunnings / Good Guys / HN installers in Melbourne?

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