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Motorola moto e7 power 2GB/32GB 6.5" or Vodafone Nokia C01 Plus 5.4"+ $30 Prepaid Starter Kit $88 (in Store Only) @ Vodafone

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Vodafone are currently selling the Motorola moto e7 power for $88 including a $30 starter kit, a discount of $61 over their regular selling price they claim.

Want a smaller Nokia C01 Plus for the same price? The Nokia C01 Plus is also on special. I provide some first impressions of that phone below.Please raise comments in the same thread or make it clear that you are referring to the Nokia rather than the Motorola.

Specs according to linked page:

Operating System: Android 10
Processor Chip: Octa-Core 2.0GHz 1
RAM: 2GB 2
External Flash: Up to 1TB (with Micro SD sold separately)
Internal Flash: 32GB
Screen Size: 6.5” Max Vision HD + 60Hz Refresh Rate
Screen Resolution: 720x1660 (269PPI)
Touchscreen
Front-facing camera: 5MP
Rear-facing camera: 13MP + 2MP
Flash Type: LED
Bluetooth:5.0 LE
USB: Type-C
Audio: 3.5mm jack
Wi-Fi: 802.11b/g/n
GPS
SIM Type: Nano SIM
Battery Capacity: 5,000mAh (10W Charging)
2G Network Band: 850/900/1800/1900
3G Network Band: 850/900/1900/2100 DC-HSPA+
4G Network Band: 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2300/2500/2600 Cat 4 Ready
H x W x D: 165.06 x 75.86 x 9.20 mm
Weight: 200 grams
Colour: Tahiti Blue

Included:
Charger
Headphones
USB Cable
$30 Prepaid Plus starter kit

Probably locked to Vodafone but always try the unlocking page in case you are lucky. Vodafone charge $50 to unlock before 6 months, $25 thereafter (forever?).

The non-model specific Motorola specs also list:
Rear mounted fingerprint reader
IP52 water repellent design
Display Technology: IPS
Aspect Ratio:20:9

Most interestingly:
SIM Card: Hybrid Dual SIM Hybrid Dual SIM (2 Nano SIMs or 1 Nano SIM + 1 microSD)

The feature seems unlikely in a carrier locked phone, but can also be found in the description from AusPost Nevertheless, I wouldn't rely on this feature being present and working even if the hardware is there

The power designation is to indicate the larger battery compared to the otherwise better specced non-power variant. The GadgetGuy review notes this advantage is largely eroded by the system running in 32 bit mode vs. the 64 bit mode of the better specced and performing model and most of the results show this except, "Screen on time" is 10hours for the power vs. 7 hours in the non-power version and 12:37 vs. 11 hours in some benchmark called "Work 2 Battery Life",

Confirmation of the specs of the variant, cheap 3rd party unlocking options and other feedback would be appreciated.


  1. Possibly a MediaTek Helio G25 with 2.0GHz octa-core ARM Cortex-A53 CPU, 650MHz IMG GE8320 GPU if it conforms to the specs on Motorola AU 

  2. Not mentioned on the Vodafone page but in descriptions from some other sellers. 

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  • Whats the unlocking page?

    • +3

      https://www.vodafone.com.au/support/device/unlock Have updated the description to include it.

      • ty

      • So if wait 6 months then unlocking will be $25, may be there is code online for less then $10

        • Yes. If you search on eBay you can find various sellers but I can't vouch for any of them. Pity Bagman is not in the biz these days.

  • Anyone know if this works with the DJI Fly app (my Moto G9 Plus works even though it's not officially listed)?

    https://www.dji.com/au/downloads/djiapp/dji-fly

  • The 2GB of RAM could cause problems. Should be probably fine for one or two apps at a time, I guess?

    • +4

      Will still be slow.

      • +1

        2GB really isn't enough for most mobile websites in Chrome, so it will be painful slow today, let alone in 12 months.

        • It's not an Android go phone is it? Is that still a thing?

          There's a Galaxy a20 in use here and even with 3 GB it still has its moments

          • @Jackson: Android Go only helps with applications and their storage on the device. Most of those apps are effectively operating in the browser. Yes, these days, even 3GB RAM will have difficulties. Chrome and websites in general have become very RAM hungry. It is simply the cheapest option.

        • I bought this phone last year as my oppo went skydiving off the balcony, it is painfully slow, good for a child is about all.

  • +1

    can anyone chime in on whether this is a good phone for fuel chopper purposes?

    • What's fuel chopper?

  • +1

    5000mah. Awesome.

  • Sounds like a pretty good phone, but think I will spend more money for a super amoled screen.

    • +6

      Not sure if you can buy super amoled screens for these.

      • +8

        What about custom rims and a spoiler? Surely yes.

  • +1

    No NFC

    • -1

      Or B28 if the Aus version isn't something special GSMarena Specs

      • +1

        It has B28 = 700Mhz.

  • +2

    Unexpectedly Helio G25‘s performance is even weaker than the SC9863A of the previous ZTE Blade A7S. Previously the ZTE A7S was $59 at woolworths. But probably Vodafone unlock policy is more lenient than Telstra? They can unlock for free if you call them a few more times,like to some ozbarginers' experience in optus. Who knows…

    • Yeah G25 is pretty bad, this is just a burner phone

    • +1

      Anything with only A53 cores just isn't enough for daily usage. For context, the architecture of these small cores released in 2012 and even then they weren't intended for performance.

      • Good to know. I checked and found that I have A53 cores in my phone from 2015 but these are clocked 50% faster and there are twice as many! They also a 12nm vs 28nm so they should be more efficient I suppose. I can tolerate browsing with my old slow cores on a phone with less memory and flash. Feel free to suggest something of better spec currently available for a similar price.

        • +1

          At the moment there isn't anything in the under $100 price range that satisfies that. Everything is mostly A53 and A55. I would at least try at least finding an A55 device like the Nokia C01 Plus you also have listed. Although, that comes with other compromises.

          In the refurbished market there are phones like the Pixel 2 XL for $150, but they aren't getting security updates anymore unless you're installing a custom ROM.

          We do have precedent for more powerful phones being cleared at these prices (A73 & A75 powered) like the Realme C3 for $75 and $69; and the Oppo A72 for $100. But your deal is fine for those in need of a phone at this price point right now.

          • @TeddyBear:

            I would at least try at least finding an A55 device like the Nokia C01 Plus you also have listed. Although, that comes with other compromises.

            Are there any advantages of the A53 compared to an A55? Does the denser fab process in the MTK make up for any deficiencies? Do you see any other aspects where the Nokia C01 Plus outshines the moto e7?

            In the refurbished market there are phones like the Pixel 2 XL(ebay.com.au) for $150, but they aren't getting security updates anymore unless you're installing a custom ROM.

            Shhh! I was looking about that. I'm a bit concerned about built-in batteries in used/ refurbished phones and at the moment my preference is for second physical SIM slot although that will likely change at some point in the future if not whenever there is an eSIM freebie being offered. I've also looked at the LG V20 and Nokia 6.1 but I also have issues with those apart from costs. A former flagship that I can install official Lineage OS releases on would be great.

            We do have precedent for more powerful phones being cleared at these prices (A73 & A75 powered) like the Realme C3 for $75 and $69; and the Oppo A72 for $100

            Yes, I did notice the Realme but it went very quickly and with a carrier locked phone I'd probably have to give up on the desire for a dual SIM phone. It also bugs me that Optus disables UMTS B5 in its phones but I suppose that is becoming less of an issue. If I recall, one poster claimed they have managed to de-Optus the C3.

            I thought $49for an unlocked RealMe C2 was a fantastic deal but it went quickly. Now that you've told me how much the A53 sucks I feel less bad on missing out.

            • @Stingo:

              Are there any advantages of the A53 compared to an A55?

              Generally no, being on a newer fab process the A53 might be draw less power. The single core: the most significant indicator of performance, is higher on the A55, but due the clock speed difference and 28nm vs 12nm, multicore is similar between the two.

              I actually had an LG V20 since release, I suppose the removable battery could help with that issue. But the only genuine batteries I could find were from RoadHound Electronics shipped from NSW. eBay batteries weren't adequate in my experience and couldn't hold a charge after a few weeks. Despite the great hardware for the time, I couldn't recommend a V20 stuck on Android 8.0.

              bugs me that Optus disables UMTS B5

              The fun hidden feature with Oppo and Realme phones on Android 10 and maybe 11 is the ability to unlock to the ROM and modem to the global variant, read more here. Dual Sim and WiFi calling works after doing that too. Note that the physical sim tray on the Realme C3 is still present on Optus Prepaid models, but not on the Oppo A72. These are readily available on Aliexpress anyhow.

              Unfortunately, the only way to replace the battery on Pixel 2 is likely with a heat gun or some really careful hairdryer work to separate the glue. Older phones also sometimes have almost half the battery capacity of newer phones, even when new. Every so often there have been some nice phones at the $200 mark like this TCL 10 Pro using A76 cores. So it's worth being on the lookout as clearances for under $100 do happen with prepaid mobiles.

              • @TeddyBear:

                Despite the great hardware for the time, I couldn't recommend a V20 stuck on Android 8.0.

                There is an official LineageOS build for it but what put me off is that VoLTE is only supported in the stock ROMs for certain markets. I'm sure I could live with the hardware now.

                The fun hidden feature with Oppo and Realme phones on Android 10 and maybe 11 is the ability to unlock to the ROM and modem to the global variant, read more here.

                That may be the post I recall.

                Unfortunately, the only way to replace the battery on Pixel 2 is likely with a heat gun or some really careful hairdryer work to separate the glue

                Yes, but I think I'm unlikely to get any decent Android phone with an easily replaceable battery. iFixitranks the Pixel 2 6/10 for repairability. However, the prices the official Pixel repairer charges are near the prices of refurbished units.

                Every so often there have been some nice phones at the $200 mark like this TCL 10 Pro

                Not exactly a brand exactly synonymous with quality but that phone does get good reviews. I don't know you could still get IR blasters on phones these days.

                So it's worth being on the lookout as clearances for under $100 do happen with prepaid mobiles.

                All the other OzBargainer's and resellers keep beating me to them :-(.

    • I tried getting a Telstra device unlocked several years ago. Despite Telstra having a policy of a free unlock after 2 years I had to try multiple times before I was given a free unlock code.

      I'm a bit puzzled that Vodafone don't mention the need to unlock on the product page perhaps so that they can suck you into the store … to be ignored. (I always get ignored in those telco shops. Maybe I should hover over the expensive phones.)

    • Thank you, @jmmjbb,Zylam Marex,and TeddyBearfor opening my eyes here. It never occurred to me that a lower-clocked processor on a less well specced phone from a company that I've never heard using an older fab process could vastly outperform the processor in the e7. Do you guys have a favourite benchmark/spec site you use to grok this stuff?

      • www.notebookcheck.net is great source, is you're looking for CPU performance Geekbench 4.0 and 4.1 - 4.4 scores in single and multicore can be a rough indication of CPU performance. Make sure you can compare like for like benchmarks and versions as 4.0 scores can be compared with 4.1 and higher.

  • Vodafone Nokia C01 Plus 2GB/16GB 5.4" + $30 starter kit $88 (in store only) @ Vodafone

    There are certainly lesser phones at this price. I think the moto e7 deal I posted is better but this product may of interest to those who want a smaller phone, one with a removable battery, and a more recent version of Android. Like the other phone this has more memory than usual for phones at the price. You might check if your local Woolworths is holding some stock at a cheaper price. I think I managed to somehow see a lower price online last week but I haven't managed to view the price since then.

    Buy it for your dad or grandad if you're spending their money and they don't care. My friend's son did.

    Nokia spec for this single SIM variant can be found here

    Most likely locked to Vodafone but works on a pre-merger TPG SIM so probably works on any Vodafone MVNO

    Personal impressions

    This runs Android 11 Go so it could well have more usable memory than the moto with Android 10 depending on how much bloat got added in Android 11. I've held this one in my hand and it sat comfortably and felt solid but I didn't try pressing the plastic or bending it. What I especially liked was that the back had some texture to aid grip rather than being slick. I didn't give it too much of a workout other than to do some further set up for a friend, load some web pages and install an Android security update (possibly September). I didn't notice anything too horrible about it but given my usual phone has even a more lowly spec I probably wouldn't have. I will say I prefer EMUI on my ancient Huawei to this which I assume is the Android 11 Go stock interface given what I've heard about Nokia. I missed the options of Huge and Extra Huge fonts and the lower DPI of my Huawei probably helps me to manage reading without glasses. Like the Huawei you can turn on magnification via the accessibility settings though and arguably the Android 11 UI for magnification is better. I wanted to install some widgets on the home screen but it appears that is not possible on the Android Go 11 launcher. Seems that Android needs a gesture to look at the app drawer rather than making it as obvious as it used to be.

    • I noticed this $1 cheaper at Officeworks. Too many people getting a price match I suppose. As has been pointed out to me this has a much more efficient processor than the moto e7 so I regret my choice of words above. If you don't care about a fingerprint reader, more flash, USB-C, more megapixels, a larger screen, greater water resistance this probably will be a much more pleasant phone to carry around and use. I don't know whether Android Go is that nice but you can replace the launcher and install full-fat apps if you want. A no frills phone that you could continue to use for years if you care for the essentials rather than frills. I should also mention that I read it has a flash on the selfie camera so perhaps a better phone for someone who takes pictures of themselves. Buy one for your yourself and mum too. Or buy both the moto and this!

  • -3

    Don't buy phones with MediaTek processors. Slow and inefficient. Thy don't release codes so XDA developers etc can't do ROMs for them.

    Also don't go for 720p screens.

    Discounted to the bone for a reason.

    • +4

      But what about if someone just wants a cheapo under $100 for calls & sms with a big battery, is there something better?

      • -1

        Get a dumb phone.

    • +2

      I agree with the custom ROM support, but Mediatek SOCs have improved dramatically over the years. One area they could improve on is their GPUs in their budget offerings. But now they're now besting Qualcomm's high end. Even Unisoc's SOCs are competitive in the low end.

      As always, you have to evaluate each product on a case by case basis.

    • Would you prefer a Unisoc SC9863A with 28nm fabrication for the same price? Please find me a new old stock Qualcomm phone with 2GB of RAM that has a custom ROM that can be had for the same price, Just because its Qualcomm doesn't mean people will do a custom ROM for them. Developers tend to only bother with better models. Is there any current official Lineage release for any 2GB RAM phone?

      • -1

        Thinking of buying in 2gb ram phone. Don't. Just a lesson in frustration.

  • Being locked phone, are you sure it's dual sim?

    • Definitely, not! They why I also wrote:

      I wouldn't rely on this feature being present and working even if the hardware is there.

  • Is this a good chopper?

    • +1

      Whose chopper is this?

  • A phone with USB-C under $100 with adequate specs is not bad at all. The 5000mah Battery is just icing on the cake.

    • -2

      Is USB-c vitally important?

      • +1

        Yes!

  • -1

    Guys , I'm in birrong area 2143
    Merrylands dont have it
    Where can i get one from .

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