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Crucial P3 4TB NVMe m.2 SSD $580, Crucial P3 Plus 4TB NVMe m.2 SSD $669 Delivered @ Amazon UK via AU

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Seems like Crucial have some new 4TB capacity NVMe m.2 SSD's available for purchase:

  • Crucial P3 4TB PCIe Gen 3 - Sequential read/write speeds up to 3500/3000MB/s
  • Crucial P3 Plus 4TB PCIe Gen 4 - Sequential read/write speeds up to 5000/4200MB/s

Link to P3 Plus
"Usually dispatched within 4 to 6 weeks"

Also available for $749 and $849 at mwave.

More info here:
https://www.crucial.com/products/ssd/crucial-p3-ssd
https://www.crucial.com/products/ssd/crucial-p3-plus-ssd

They appear to be 'QLC' drives, which is generally regarded to be a bit worse than 'TLC' drives, though I think it is what enables the higher capacity at a cheaper price point. The downsides of 'QLC' seem to be that if you write a large amount of data (tens of gigabytes) at once, the drive can slow down temporarily (until the cache clears itself); it can also slow down if nearly filled up (over 80% capacity). Though the fact that it is 'QLC' doesn't seem to matter much if you're just filling it up with a library of games to play (i.e., reading data). Content creators who constantly copy/paste large 4K video files may want to wait for reviews first or look into 'TLC' drives. It is also probably DRAM-less, though this may not matter as much with the latest generation of NVMe drives/controllers which can get around this limitation and avoid adding DRAM to keep costs down yet still perform well (such as the WD Black SN770). Perhaps someone more knowledgable in these areas can chime in.

Really, the deal here is the high capacity m.2 form-factor NVMe SSD's at a more reasonable price.
The next cheapest I could find is this one (4TB, NVMe, m.2, PCIe Gen 3, QLC) for $696 on sale.
Although these P3 and P3 Plus drives do come in smaller capacities, I'd only be looking at these for the 4TB capacity, as there is better value for money at 2TB at the moment.

Should be a nice improvement/alternative to the old 2.5" Sata SSD's :)
(Cheapest seems to be the Crucial MX500 for $469 - more context here)

Another idea is sticking one of these into a decent m.2 drive enclosure to create a zippy, little, high-capacity portable drive!

Lastly, neither of these meet the PS5 stated SSD requirements in case you were wondering. However, the WD Black SN770 for example, seems to work in the PS5 despite being below the stated requirements. I wouldn't want to be the first to test these out though.

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  • +3

    For 4TB P3 Plus: TBW: 800TB

    It has an endurance of only about 200 writes, one of the disadvantages of QLC.

    The older MX500 is not much better with 1000TBW, but EVO 470 has 2400TBW.
    It does not matter for everyone (plus with so many writes, QLC would be painfully slow to use),
    but dependent on usage should be taken into account.

    • Yeah exactly, you just have to be mindful of your use-case. Like I mentioned, filling it up with games should be no problems at all as you'd predominantly be reading data after the initial write to install.

      800TBW / 365 days / 30 years = 0.07TB (70GB)
      You'd be able to write 70GB per day over 30 years before exhausting it's endurance rating (though the warranty is 5 years).

      This drive will be really handy for people building mini-ITX gaming PC's, or for laptops, where your storage options are restricted by a small amount of space available (and you want/need a higher storage capacity at a more affordable price, or even a lower weight). Also, I imagine games are only going to become more SSD-speed-sensitive with the latest generation of consoles sporting high speed SSD's themselves.

  • +1

    Wow, it was only 10 years ago when I paid $1400 for a 250GB capacity!

    • Haha yikes!! Have you still got it running?

      • Yup, I still got it and it is still working. It's OCZ Colossus. The company no longer exist alas owned by Seagate. Should have sold it for $700 when I had the chance.

        https://www.google.com/search?q=ocz+colossus&rlz=1C1RXQR_en-…

        • Haha that's crazy! Pros and cons of being an early adopter I suppose…

        • Hardly anyone bought a OCZ Colossus, it was recognised as a dud product for price vs performance.

          I got a corsair force 3 around the same time, 120gb for $280 or so was the sweet spot, the 250gb was about $600-800

          Also still working today.

  • They appear to be 'QLC' drives, which is generally regarded to be a bit worse than 'TLC' drives, though I think it is what enables the higher capacity at a cheaper price point.

    I would imagine that 4TB on a M.2 2280 form factor would necessitate QLC, but happy to be proven wrong

  • +2

    one day we will at this price for tlc/dram m.2's

    • +1

      That's the DReAM! Their research and development just needs some old-fashioned TLC…
      (puns heavily intended)

  • +2

    You may want to consider holding out if you don't need storage. NAND prices are set to get cheaper…. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nand-prices-expected-to-dr…

    • Interesting. Good to hear!

  • +1

    I ordered the 4TB MX500 SATA one from Amazon UK during Prime Day for about $423. Expecting it to arrive next week. Not too fussed about the reduced TBW count compared to the Samsung drives as I don't intend to be writing that much to it beyond the initial write (besides game patches etc.) plus the warranty for it is 5 years.

    • +3

      You'd have to be writing a lot of data to reach its limit.

      With a 1000TBW rating on the 4TB Crucial MX500, you'd be able to write 90GB per day over 30 years before exhausting it's endurance rating (though the warranty is 5 years).

      1000TBW / 365 days / 30 years = 0.09TB (90GB)

      Sounds like you'll be absolutely fine! Which is the same argument about how QLC drives, with their lower endurance compared to TLC drives, really aren't the end of the world depending on your use-case. Gaming is A-okay, as it is predominantly reading data (after the initial write to install). But if time is money to you, for example your work entails transferring a lot of data frequently, and you need to minimise all associated risks, then you'd absolutely pay extra for an SSD with TLC for quicker/consistent transfer speeds and higher endurance ratings. This could apply to drives used for CCTV security camera footage recording on a daily basis too.

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