I’ve been with a few recruiting agencies. They mostly put forward my resume to bolster numbers and I now I don’t trust them nor will work with them anymore after being burned by them.
Everything from corporate, retail, hospitality. They go on about a worker shortage but it’s lies. They just don’t want to hire people - particularly the unvaccinated.
I am a QAnon and Proud Boy.
OP has stated this in another comment. Yikes
Damnit ive hit my 24hr downvoting limit after the first few comments
Its not just this, he also mentioned he is a member of a (in some countries) a declared terrorist group
My employer just removed the requirement to be vaccinated this week in a corporate setting. I think some areas will start relaxing this requirement more, excluding area that face the public.
How many interviews have you had?
Then I think it is your CV and cover letter that needs to be updated.
It’s you CV that gets you the interview and then experience, skills, personality that will get you through to the job.
You have mentioned your CV is okay, but is it tailored to the jobs you are applying for and does the cover letter talk to what you are after and what you can offer? You really need to keep it specific to the job you are applying for.
OP States "I am a QAnon and Proud Boy."
I think we found the issue.
The Hospitality sector is screaming for staff, however, dealing with people all the time, it would be advantageous to be fully vaccinated. Everyone at my main job, and at home have had CV19, yet I have not had any issues. I am dealing with 100s of people every weekend, and I have had no issues. Yes I have had the Flu, but no CV19.
I had 2 maximum doses of Novavax, as part of the trial 2 years ago, and I have had 3 Pfizer shots. I'm going to have Novavax this weekend.
I had an uncle, who developed Meningitis as an Infant, and I saw first hand what not having vaccinations as a child can do. His Physical and Mental behaviour was worse than most Down-Syndrome adults have.
Best of luck.
I don't know anyone with side effects.
I don't recall any from my childhood, nor have my Children had any.
Even better, no polio.
I believe they're referring to Covid vaccination, not polio, meningitis or other childhood vaccinations. And though I'm vaccinated, i see their point. But also they want corporate, not front of house hospitality etc.
@cookie2: Want vs need. Two incredibly different things. Seems Op is currently in the need stage.
There is nothing embarrassing about doing hospo work until you find what you are looking for.
Re vax status. That again is Ops right and choice. We have to live with the consequences of our choices. We don’t get to blame the world for not being able to find a job because employers are requiring vaccination against covid.
@Vote for Pedro: See i think we should be able to blame the government and society for it. It's ridiculous now to still be enforcing mandated vaccinations or enforcing where it isn't even mandated. And I hear what you're saying re want vs need but i don't think the OP is actually in need yet. Because if i was in need then I wouldn't be boxing myself into a specific role like OP is.
It's ridiculous now to still be enforcing mandated vaccinations
You may be aware that employers are gradually reviewing their risk assessments and risk profiles with a view to changing their current stance. Some will continue to require vaccination based on their own risk assessments. But that will continue to be the employers prerogative in managing workplace risk.
And I hear what you're saying re want vs need but i don't think the OP is actually in need yet. Because if i was in need then I wouldn't be boxing myself into a specific role like OP is.
Fair
@cookie2: They may want corporate, but corporate wants vaccinated. They don't want to take on an employee that is at higher risk of sickness or spreading it, they have enough of that already. If he wants to stay unvaxxed that is a choice, just has to realise it is a choice to also not work in most corporate environments.
@gromit: But are we still saying that an unvaccinated person is more likely to be sick or that they're more likely to spread? I'm not even sure if studies are reflecting this anymore.
@cookie2: Lots of studies confirming it. https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2022/04/25/unvaccina…
@gromit: Corporate also wants people who can think for themselves and are not part of conspiracy cults.
I love the side effect argument. When 95% of adult Australians are vaccinated it would be very very apparent if there were side effects.
@ribze1: 95% are not triple.
Most people uprising hospitalised had underlying health conditions and/or/were smokers.
We’ve had the vaccine approx 2 years now, give or take, I haven’t checked in detail.
How much time do you need to pass for you to be sufficiently satisfied that there are no adverse side effects and then to take the vaccine?
@iCandy: I've had 5 doses (as mentioned above) - Still no CV19 in my body, despite the 100s of people I deal with weekly.
@BewareOfThe Dog: Or you’ve had it but had no symptoms. My son was like that. My triple jabbed sister and I (unvaxxed) has Covid EXACTLY the same except she also had an ear infection that I didn’t have. I’m just getting over a sinus infection now that was worse than Covid. Covid was pretty weak.
@smartazz104: No actually I haven’t had chickenpox and measles vaccines. I contracted those viruses and, OMG! I’m still here!
It’s been 2 years that now show the vaccine doesn’t work
How do you see that? Reduced deaths, reduced hospitalisations, even with massively increased case numbers.
Why would you put an experimental treatment into your body
Fair point
that doesn’t work
See above
and also has caused dangerous side effects in a lot of people.
What's "a lot". Almost everyone I know is vaccinated, and none have had any side effects. I imagine this rings true for "a lot" of people (my "a lot" being >50% of the country's population)
@Chandler: Google is your friend. Search the adverse events database the Therapeutic Goods Administration has around all of the Covid vaccines. The numbers are very high.
@iCandy: Actually, they're absurdly low. The only reason you see a decent number of cases is the sheer volume of vaccinations that are happening. Other vaccines have higher adverse effect rates, but because only a small subset of the population is receiving them at any one time (whoever turns one particular age that year) the absolute numbers look low, even though percentage wise they might be higher.
Imagine you have a large swimming pool of 10,000 balls, 3 of which are green and the rest red. You tip every single one of them onto the lawn. You count 3 green balls.
Take the same swimming pool with 10,000 balls and make 30 of them green and the rest red. You take out 100 balls and put them on the lawn. How many green balls are you able to count? You might get lucky and see one. But if you repeated the experiment many, many times, the majority of cases would come back with no greens.
So it may seem like there are way more adverse events with the covid vaccines but it is only because so many people are getting vaccinated in such a short time period. But actually the rates of adverse events are incredibly low. If you read dodgy websites in the future try to look at it through this lens. If the website is talking about actual numbers of people with adverse events, it is manipulating you and you shouldn't trust it. If it talks about actual percentages, it might be ok. Try comparing to rates of side effects of common drugs to see how small they really are, especially the severe ones which are so rare they have only happened to a handful of people despite nearly the entire population of the earth taking multiple doses over the last year.
@Quantumcat: You’re missing the point. I’ve had Covid and sailed through it and I’m not young and have comorbidities. Why would I want to have an injection that won’t prevent me from catching Covid again? I now have natural antibodies to Covid; not the RNA modified spike protein “antibodies” (where all of the lab animals died when the scientists tried RNA vaccines in the past)? That doesn’t make sense.
@Vote for Pedro: Did you even read what John posted about most companies requiring vaccinated employees???
@iCandy: Have you ever lived in a country where you are actually forced to do things? Clearly not from your response.
No one is forcing you to get vaccinated. You have a choice. The beauty of having a choice is also accepting the consequences of your choices
@iCandy: No. There’s influence and behavioural science. No one held you down and shoved a vaccine in your arm, did they?
You made a choice but you don’t want to live with the consequences of your choice. This really is becoming an entitled society where everyone wants everything to go their way.
@iCandy: Well that escalated quickly. I guess that’s your version of stomping your feet and crying because mommy didn’t give you everything you wanted immediately.
Get in touch when you grow up.
@iCandy: Getting covid only provides you a few weeks of immunity at best. You'll need another jab later to stay protected.
By the way, the antibodies you have after having a vaccine are exactly the same as what you have from getting the infection itself. Your body produces them both ways. The vaccine just gives you things the body can react to and produce antibodies against them, that will also mobilise against the virus if it gets into the body later on.
Search the adverse events database the Therapeutic Goods Administration has around all of the Covid vaccines.
I have. Results below.
Source: https://apps.tga.gov.au/PROD/DAEN/daen-entry.aspx
Search criteria: Medicine: COMIRNATY COVID-19 vaccine (active ingredients: tozinameran), Date Range: 01/07/1971 to 21/07/2022 (default setting), Sorting: "Number of cases - highest first" (default setting). Only the top 50 records (of 3,015) shown below.
| MedDRA system organ class | MedDRA reaction term | Number of cases | Number of cases with a single suspected medicine | Number of cases where death was a reported outcome |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nervous system disorders | Headache | 15325 | 14981 | 15 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Chest pain | 11272 | 10926 | 20 |
| Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders | Myalgia | 9764 | 9564 | 4 |
| Nervous system disorders | Dizziness | 8882 | 8731 | 4 |
| Gastrointestinal disorders | Nausea | 8449 | 8285 | 8 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Fatigue | 8040 | 7825 | 11 |
| Nervous system disorders | Lethargy | 7905 | 7792 | 11 |
| Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders | Dyspnoea | 7841 | 7607 | 36 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Pyrexia | 7586 | 7392 | 12 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Injection site reaction | 7050 | 6949 | 1 |
| Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders | Arthralgia | 6589 | 6444 | 5 |
| Cardiac disorders | Palpitations | 5108 | 4966 | 1 |
| Nervous system disorders | Paraesthesia | 5058 | 4944 | 1 |
| Blood and lymphatic system disorders | Lymphadenopathy | 4505 | 4406 | 0 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Chills | 4289 | 4216 | 1 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Chest discomfort | 3619 | 3517 | 3 |
| Gastrointestinal disorders | Vomiting | 3453 | 3370 | 22 |
| Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders | Rash | 3426 | 3349 | 3 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Injection site pain | 3157 | 3079 | 1 |
| Gastrointestinal disorders | Abdominal pain | 3012 | 2962 | 7 |
| Cardiac disorders | Pericarditis | 2985 | 2875 | 5 |
| Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders | Pain in extremity | 2960 | 2854 | 6 |
| Gastrointestinal disorders | Diarrhoea | 2863 | 2796 | 2 |
| Nervous system disorders | Syncope | 2778 | 2739 | 6 |
| Nervous system disorders | Presyncope | 2399 | 2377 | 0 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Influenza like illness | 2212 | 2145 | 1 |
| Reproductive system and breast disorders | Menstrual disorder | 2138 | 2055 | 0 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Malaise | 2043 | 1961 | 22 |
| Cardiac disorders | Tachycardia | 1951 | 1914 | 4 |
| Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders | Hyperhidrosis | 1753 | 1709 | 6 |
| Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders | Cough | 1731 | 1690 | 4 |
| Injury, poisoning and procedural complications | Vaccination error | 1598 | 1517 | 2 |
| Nervous system disorders | Hypoaesthesia | 1571 | 1529 | 1 |
| Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders | Urticaria | 1561 | 1515 | 1 |
| Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders | Pruritus | 1538 | 1514 | 0 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Concomitant disease aggravated | 1467 | 1402 | 19 |
| Vascular disorders | Hypertension | 1207 | 1188 | 2 |
| Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders | Oropharyngeal pain | 1195 | 1168 | 1 |
| Nervous system disorders | Migraine | 1172 | 1123 | 1 |
| General disorders and administration site conditions | Pain | 1171 | 1125 | 5 |
| Cardiac disorders | Myocarditis | 1074 | 1036 | 10 |
| Eye disorders | Vision blurred | 1014 | 972 | 1 |
| Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders | Back pain | 988 | 957 | 2 |
| Immune system disorders | Anaphylactic reaction | 988 | 971 | 0 |
| Ear and labyrinth disorders | Tinnitus | 985 | 952 | 1 |
| Nervous system disorders | Tremor | 976 | 954 | 1 |
| Psychiatric disorders | Insomnia | 969 | 940 | 1 |
| Investigations | Heart rate increased | 942 | 921 | 1 |
| Ear and labyrinth disorders | Vertigo | 926 | 897 | 0 |
| Psychiatric disorders | Anxiety | 908 | 884 | 0 |
Now, these are counts of adverse events. One person getting one shot could experience multiple adverse events, i.e. the 15,325 headache "events" are not (necessarily) separate from the 8,882 dizziness "events".The 15 deaths listed against the adverse event "headache" could have been due to the headache, could have been due to another adverse event, or could even have nothing to do with the vaccination (as noted on the page: "These reports of death may or may not have been the result of taking a medicine"). These are all "adverse events" after having the vaccination, not necessarily because of having the vaccination. A lot of them are also expected adverse events, like "injection site pain".
Interestingly, of the 988 "Anaphylactic reaction"'s, there were 0 deaths (presumably because it was responded to quickly).
One thing I keep seeing in posts/comments/etc about COVID and vaccination is they're all happy to look at the raw data and say "see, look at how bad the vaccine is for you!" but when you actually dig into the data it's not as bad as they're trying to make out (intentionally or otherwise). They also generally fall silent when you've completely disproved their argument (which I haven't completely done in this case, although the data is all there if you want to look into it further).
I also find it funny how they like say things like "caused dangerous side effects in a lot of people", acting like the government/et al are hurting/killing people en masse (and intentionally?), but are more than happy to accept the data from those same bodies as truth and try to use that to prove their own point.
@Chandler: There are more than just those reports. Try inputting in all of the vaccines next time. Nice try at fudging there Chandler…
@Chandler: I am sure iCandy knows 100 people who have had issues with the vaccine. It seems to be the norm with these anti-vaxxers.
@Aureus: No I don’t actually. I only know my daughter-in-law who got an infection at the site of the injection and her mother got shingles twice after the shot as well as a chest infection and conjunctivitis. Although everyone of my family who had the 2 shots, and then got Covid, are adamant they aren’t having anymore. It pays to be informed.
@iCandy: Note that there's a difference in just looking up research that proves your own hypothesis, and reading widely to understand both sides of the argument and weigh it up.
I'd find it very difficult to take someone at face value if they've looked at the evidence on both sides and favour the anti-vax side. It's the equivalent for most people of someone saying the Earth is flat after looking at the evidence for and against. I'm sure you can come to that conclusion, but most people won't given the evidence.
@DingoBilly: Ah there it is. The insult designed to shut down dialogue. Just because someone doesn’t have the same opinion as you doesn’t make them wrong, and more importantly, doesn’t make you right.
@iCandy: An infection can happen any time the skin is broken, it has nothing to do with the vaccine. Likewise conjunctivitis has nothing to do with it, that's an eye infection! That's caused by not washing your hands after doing a number 2, then rubbing your eyes. By chest infection do you mean pneumonia? That would be caused by a cold, or the flu (which could be avoided by having the annual flu shot). You can't catch covid from the vaccine as it doesn't use a live virus. And after she had shingles, did her doctor tell her she can have a chicken pox booster that will keep that from happening again? I am guessing not because it happened again. Shingles can re-emerge due to stress. Just because two events follow one another does not make them related in any way. None of the things you mentioned could possibly be caused by the vaccine.
@Quantumcat: I never said the ailments suffered by my relatives were caused by the vax. I said they suffered these ailments after the vax. But thank you for your condescending diatribe. I’m well aware of what causes these ailments.
@iCandy: "I never said the ailments suffered by my relatives were caused by the vax. I said they suffered these ailments after the vax. But thank you for your condescending diatribe. I’m well aware of what causes these ailments."
If you're confirming they're unconnected, then mentioning them one after the other in the way you did (reread the first two sentences I quoted, everyone) is pure disinformation mischief.
It's the same as "I had the COVID vax and the next day I was in a car accident". Or "And then the next day the stock market went down". "Oh, I was just mentioning something unrelated at the same time. Sorry, did you draw a connection between the two? That wasn't my intention".
This is exactly why anti-vaxxers aren't taken seriously.
Normal people can't think of the last time they tried to trick someone into believe something by speaking like this. Try it.
@CrowReally: Never said the vax caused those ailments. Sorry you’re upset that you can’t pin something on me. Try harder.
It's just over 18 months. I had my 1st novavax trial nearly 2 years ago. Pfizer/az came @feb/march 2021?
Most things in life have a risk of adverse side effects but carry on.
I’m not getting vaccinated and risk a life full of adverse side effects to make coffee.
Then don't complain when you can't get a job. FWIW, I'm pretty pro-freedom. You're free to choose whether you want to get vaccinated or not, employers are free to choose whether to hire you based on that or not. Actions have consequences. Easy.
If you ever wondered what you would be like in 1940s Germany, well now you know!
@iCandy: And there it is, Godwin’s Law has been invoked. Surprised it took this long; must be all that critical thinking.
@iCandy: I'm not advocating for forced vaccination - I'm advocating for freedom of all parties involved. Freedom for individuals to choose whether to get vaccinated or not, freedom for others to choose whether they wish to associate with / hire an individual based on that.
Freedom does not mean the absence of consequences for your actions, it means the right to make decisions even if they may lead to adverse consequences for oneself.
@iCandy: You are such an angry, suspicious and scared individual. It's almost like you are always either trying to pick a fight, or trying to 'cause a reaction' by saying something objectively absurd.
I don't know what kind of pain you experienced when you were younger, but I genuinely hope find some peace in your life..
@leelemon: You say I’m an angry individual, yet no mention of the personal attacks on antivaxxers in this very forum? Being told we are stupid, dumb, have no friends, will die off with no offspring? Me thinks you are a hypocrite.
Have you looked at the side effects of COVID?
Whatever side effects the COVID vaccine puts you at risk of are also coming your way when (not if - when) you catch COVID - except with an active disease the spike proteins spread further, will last in your system longer, and cause more severe damage than the small amount of spike proteins the vaccine will produce.
The problem with your logic is that you are comparing the risk of the vaccine vs. remaining unvaccinated and COVID free. That is not realistic. You are putting yourself at much greater risk of "side effects" by catching COVID unvaccinated. That's what "long COVID" is.
70% of dying from COVID is if you are fat.
I know someone with 4 injections that just got COVID, so I'm not sure what getting more injections will do for you, especially if the biggest issue is if you are fat,
It will extend the time of your vaccination.
Being fat is a symptom of metabolic syndrome - essentially you have a constant low level of inflammation which eventually leads to heart disease, fatty liver and diabetes.
If you then catch COVID- a virus that causes a lot of inflammation- your symptoms will be much more severe.
A vaccinated person will clear a COVID infection much more rapidly than an unvaccinated person- less inflammation, less risk of organ damage, less risk of hospitalisation.
The vaccine doesn't last very long. Hence the push for boosters.
Get the jab??
I've had 4 doses now… I'm feeling great.
Gene expressions take years, good luck.
Dying to COVID takes much less time, but the effects of being infected are forever.
@smartazz104: The possibility of severe side effects is directly correlated with baseline health parameters. If you are fat and don't exercise go get it for all I care, just don't force it on people who are healthy.
I got covid and I was completely fine, as were all my unvaccinated friends. Who could have predicted that????
@[Deactivated]: Wow, your own personal experiences definitely translate to exactly what happens to an entire population!
@DiscountForThee: 70% of those who died from COVID were obeses.
Not my personal experience, as I did not die.
Not my personal experience, as I did not die.
So either your reading comprehension is what is causing this, or you just are completely unaware of personal experience biases. Or you're pretending to be ignorant to get a reaction lol
@Yola: 500,000 died COVID
400,000 died influenza
Many Indians are obese - 40.3% of the population actually.
And most of the time its in older Indians (male/female 45yrs+) = 60% obesity rate.
In younger population 25% is malnutritioned, 50% is normal and 25% is obese.
Obesity when babies are born is only 8% in the US. So thats going to have a certain effect.
Look at the covid deaths per million:
Age ….. .15 | . 15–29 | 30–44 | 45–59 | 60–74 | 75+
India …. 1.6 | . 6.3 ….| 35.5 …| 198.8 .| 571.3 .| 931.6
To get from 1.6 to 931, the gain is 58,088%
I mean you could probably argue that there is no point anyone under the age of 44 of getting the vaccine and much higher priority should be vaccination in the elderly.
@Other: The low rate for Children is probably why Musk didn't vaccinate his children - and he produced COVID related medical equipment.
Still waiting on the side effects of all the vaccines I had 30 years ago
People still trusting Facebook misinformation and staying antivax will just mean fewer dumb people to pass on their genes. I expect long COVID symptoms will have a negative impact on lots of people for a while as well
You do understand that what you have taken for covid is not a vaccine? Those vaccines you speak of use an entirely different method than the covid 'vaccine'.
They were intentionally lumped together to encourage the average person to just get it. They do not work on the same mechanisms as live attenuated vaccines which actually stop spread and create immunity to the host.
I know you think the 'antivaxxers' are the morons but the majority are far more informed than you. That is obvious by you claiming them to be the same as childhood vaccines, which they are not.
Head of Bayer pharma saying that people would have said NO if they were marketed correctly.
https://youtu.be/2D5KeniMzjg
but the majority are far more informed than you
Ah yes the ones who think vaccines cause autism, contain special toxins and the ones that believe vaxxed people shed and will be dead in two years, they are well informed
It's weird how idiots think they're smarter than immunologists and decades of scientific research, I know I'm not.
I didn't say they were the same as my childhood shots, you assumed that the same way you did with what type of COVID vaccine(s) I've had.
@normanwall: Well you said you are still waiting for side effects from your vaccines 30 years ago. You are comparing two entirely different medical technologies as if they are one and the same. Trying to 'vaccinate' against an ever mutating coronavirus is futile, it only adds unnecessary evolutionary pressure to the virus which would not be seen in the wild. There are many immunologists who are against the use of these drugs, they are silenced and rejected by the 'mainstream'.
You can research things yourself and create your own knowledge, you don't always have to appeal to authority and blindly follow them.
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog…
Geert Vanden Bosche is one of the brightest minds in the world regarding immunology and vaccinology and he is strongly against their use, especially in children. Listen to what he has to say and see if you still hold the same views. My assumption is you will disregard him entirely because he isn't an (((approved source))).
@[Deactivated]: Geert Vanden Bosche is NOT one of the brightest minds in iimmunology at all lol. He is a bit of a part timer, with some middling experience in the area. The only place he has ever been declared one of the brightest minds in these fields is on anti vaxxer sites.
@gromit: OMG! I had no idea, stranger on the internet! I’m definitely believing everything YOU say about this topic, even without any links, just because YOU, Gromit, said it! Carry on.
@iCandy: you can act like a baby or you could have spent 10 seconds on a search engine to see rebuttals to his self serving anti vaxxer support.
@[Deactivated]: This is a trademark of pseudoscience - grasping on to one or two "experts" and basing all your information on them.
It's ironic you state "you don't always have to appeal to authority and blindly follow them" and then do just that in the very next sentence…
Ultimately, it's up to you to find the balance of evidence. When a small minority of scientists are opposed to this type of vaccine, and they generally don't have a good reputation in the scientific community then it weighs more heavily on the pro-vaccine side.
I understand you're only looking to confirm your bias, but I think it would be worthwhile reading both sides of the argument and reading up on what pseudoscience is and tell-tale trademarks of it.
Their reasons are irrelevant to the post and they're obviously not planning on getting vaccinated, which is why no further has been said on the matter. I don't think they've 'glossed over' it, they're just not getting into the why. Prob because ppl are nosey and judgemental and it deflects from the post about being unemployed.