I thought people might be interested, with Philips Father's Day Cashback offer looks like a great deal if you want one that is.
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-39% $489.00 for me
Avoid the third party sellers with names that look like they face rolled the keyboard and have just launched.
Should be safe to buy:
Ships from Amazon AU
Sold by Amazon AU
There are 12 sellers for this item, Amazon AU being one of them. 4 are with the lower $489 price but that look to be from very questionable sellers.
"yanbingmiao" certainly doesn't sound like the name of a shop to spend 500 bucks at.
Do these things handle farts well?
No. Not well. In fact, not at all. They do not have a digestive system at all.
Yes, they help spread it around if that's what you're after?
Unironically it works well against tainted kitty litter boxes. The ring on it turns red and it sounds like a jet but it gets rid of the stank
How is it better than the Xiaomi ones?
it costs more
Price to CADR is worse. The Pro H was $389 start of this year and can do CADR600 m³. This CADR is only 400m³. But there are intangibles that you can't compare.
there are intangibles
I asked about this in the other post and someone said these are good choices over the Xiaomi if you don't trust the Chinese. So I googled "Philips Air Purifier 3000i country of origin", and whaddaya know…
One issue with CADR ratings is that they only apply at maximum fan speed. Neither model seem so list what the fan speed or the noise level is at the maximum setting, so it's hard to to compare the two. It would be nice if RPM/spl are listed for each fan setting, as well as the CADR, but I doubt that would happen voluntarily.
Choice rates the Phillips at 80%, Xiaomi 3H at 60%, and the AC-M3-CA at 69%
nice
3H is lower model. compare this with Pro H
I can only pass on what Choice has reviewed
What's the usecase for these?
who knows, bought one anyway — hopefully it'll help with hay fever and dog farts, failing that I'll put it in the cupboard with the rest of my successful impulsive ozbargain purchases….
Place it near your fireplace chimney to make the air safer for your neighbours. Or use one inside when your neighbours don't give a shit about you. Also during bushfires or any pm2.5 particulate producing event. Also good for reducing transmission of airborne pathogens.
Reduce the level of PM2.5 that you breathe in.
During smoke events or especially if you live next to truck mania Road cuz your windows won't do wack except make the house air more deadly.
Painfully slow video even at 2 x speed, but she won't go any faster capt'n
I use 3.5x speed
Excellent price and the app is pretty good as well.
Filter is exxy $130. Does anyone know how often it needs filter change?
When it is dirty.
At least 12 months
3.5% cashback for electronic?
Interesting they put the price just under $500 which means business can't claim the rebate from the small business ventilation program. Has to be over $500. I guess they don't want you claiming possibly $500 back and then getting the $100 cashback from Philips as well.
Then I think for small business owners, its better for them to buy it at RRP then get the cashback $100 from Philips and claim the $500 cashback
Not sure if adding a sub $100 little air filter to get it over $500 would qualify for the rebate. I have a feeling there were some specs the filter had to meet. Otherwise if so, you could be ahead maybe $10 or so.
Do you really think that Amazon suddenly got in cahoots with the Vic government and said "we'll price it $5 below the minimum value so you don't need to pay out"?
Philips may have told Amazon the discounted price they could sell the stock for, since that filter is part of the cashback promotion.
Literally just received 2000i from Amazon for $349 after cashback 2 days ago……
Return it?
I have opened it and used it, not sure if that's still eligible for a return
Amazon are pretty good with returns, not sure how it works with the cash back though
Just select product does not meet expectations if the return option is available in the options
@Sammyboy: I don't know about you but since covid made everyone more fanatical to be cleaner, I cant imagine buying someone's used virus, pollutant catcher.
It was $364 cause I bought one too. It was still a good deal. This is just a higher end model with a gas sensor. It does look really good though as its got a fabric cover at the top whereas ours have just hard plastic.
I bought this at the start of the year for almost RRP because I live with an immunosuppressed partner and I assumed there'd be a shortage because everyone would be (sensibly) trying to clean their air (and this has the best consumer grade VOC performance according to Choice). Guess I should have waited! Thankfully I have dodged COVID so far.
Very happy with the performance though; powerful air clearing on top fan setting, quiet and decent performance on the rest of the settings. I'm very sensitive to noise when trying to sleep and the Night Mode doesn't bother me
We have two of these as well, bought at full price to remove VOCs from a freshly painted house. I've been using a prefilter cloth on top of the filter to help extend the life. Purchased them off eBay for my Xiaomi air purifier filters but also fit the Philips filters with a little stretching.
Integrates to Home Assistant as well and is a lot more responsive than the Xiaomi air purifiers for VOC and PM2.5 I find.
Do you have a link for the cloth? Also do you think this affects the air flow / motor?
is a lot more responsive than the Xiaomi air purifiers for VOC and PM2.5 I find
can you elaborate more on this — are you saying the Philips air purifier detects fine particulates more readily than the Xiaomi series and spins up the fan in response? I'm always interested in hearing about this kind of thing.
The Xiaomi series have cheap particulate sensors which don't trigger unless the air is well and truly polluted, so it's just more effective to use manual control and run the fans at medium or max speed when you need it.
Yes. So for example if I open my wardrobe which has mothballs inside the Philips kicks in immediately sensing the VOC. If I make the bed causing dust to puff up into the air the Philips comes on immediately. The Xiaomi rarely/never kicks in based on things like this. The Xiaomi does respond to cooking fumes and vapour but so does the Philips. I have the Xiaomi 2 (no OLED) and the Xiaomi 3 (OLED and NFC tag sensor). The Xiaomi almost always run on the lowest setting when in auto mode unless you are cooking food on the stove to trigger it. So I'd say it's useless on auto for cleaning the air of pollen, viruses, etc. You can set it manually though. I guess same comment is for the Philips because pollen, viruses, etc are not triggered by the sensor. The pollen would need to be at pretty high particulate levels to trigger.
I think the Xiaomi 2, 3, and 4 (non-pro) only have pm2.5 sensors so that's probably part of the reason. The Xiaomi 4 (pro) has a PM10 sensor which apparently detects pollen/dust/etc, and the 3000i has something called an IAI sensor, which seems to be Phillips own term, so I'm not sure if that's a PM10 sensor or something else.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated!
Please share link to this prefilter cloth.
Something like this
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001879843982.html?spm=a2g0…
I've bought it cheaper in the past. Need to buy some more as I've run
out.
Ok here's a cheaper listing
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/134148017171?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mk…
do you think this could work? https://www.bunnings.com.au/powerfit-cloth-pre-filter_p62104…
Looking at the product specs and filters dimensions, with a little bit of stretching, it could? But I have never used any prefilter cloth so thought of asking.
How does it integrate with Home Assistant? Local control or via a Philips app or something?
Placebo
Probably.
only 22% off now @ $626.04
Yeah price has gone back up. Luckily I got one. Was just coming back to grab a second.
Good find Op.
Pulled the trigger as it had a good discount. Shame I don't qualify for the $500 business grants cos it isn't available in my state. Otherwise, could have gotten one for $200 after all the cashback!
Been looking for an air purifier for a while, but these phillips models seem to be popular amongst OZBargainers. Might as well give it a try.
Ever had a ray of sunshine going through the window and lighting up the air in your lounge, then seeing all those floating dancing specks of dust being lit up? Yeah, it looks like I am in need of a maid or one of these air sucking babies….
I have one of these and would have cheerfully bought another had I seen this in time. It is a great little device. I have been using it to try to track the dust from a recent rebuild of our bathroom - I've posted some pictures of the data I got from it on <a href="https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/3yqm4ml6?p=2#r24">Whirlpool</a> if anyone is interested but it has been really helpful.
Look again at other sellers. $350 before the cashback
Looks very dodgy
Surely there’s not counterfeits out there?
If it doesn’t arrive or looks used you just follow Amazon processes to get a refund?
@VerticallyIntegrated: They just won't send the goods. Probably a free cash borrowing option for them for a few months before they have to refund
@10101010101: If it doesn’t arrive within estimated window (which is a few days) surely you can raise a complaint? How does this turn into a few months?
Back in stock at $495.87, just select other seller
I have the 2000i for a while and recently upgraded our wifi router. If you use mixed wpa3 mode, it seems to not really work well(mostly wont connect) but seems fine when going back to wpa/wpa2 mode. In case anyone really want to use the app.
There is another seller advertising for $350 on Amazon, might be worth it if you want to take the risk.
That is likely a scam, 0 feedback
Now at $494.70 from Amazon AU.
Now $422.57 via Amazon for anyone still wanting one.
If anyone has trouble syncing the wifi to the app on iOS, you need to disable mobile data first. It’s a bug.
Back in stock at $455
bugga, got the other one for 449, would have preferred this for the bigger area.