Nissan Leaf 40kWh: Average July 2022 Market Price $44,716 According to CarExpert Sold Price Report

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Recently Car Expert produced this report to showcase cars that are selling at a discount, despite the disruptions currently in the supply chain. Of course, there are headline cars like the BMW M8 Competition which can be had with a near $80,000 discount, but lets be honest, most OzBargainers cannot afford a $350,000+ car, so the real headline is the Nissan Leaf, an electric car that

  • Built in Japan
  • Has a great build quality
  • Has a decent inner city\suburban range
  • Priced reasonably

Every state has different stamp duty charges, in Vic it would be $44,716 + $1,881.60 = $46,597.60 driveaway.

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Comments

  • +1

    Isn't made in China

    Prepares the popcorn

    • +2

      And guacamole,
      you got Doritos ?

      • So you're the guy who sneaks in loud and crunchy food into the cinemas

  • +2

    Yeah i get it's cool not to like chinese cars at the moment but this really isn't a deal
    270 manufacturer rates KMs, no V2L/V2G (not officially anyway). i'd argue in an EV battery tech is the most important, trumps even build quality. and leaf battery is subpar
    it's also two classes smaller than a MG or BYD
    really not a deal
    i wish they would bring VW ID3 here

    • +2

      Yeah i get it's cool not to like chinese cars at the moment

      It's been cool to not like autocratic regimes for Millennia… Kids these days….

      • +1

        Maybe, but those cheap prices are irresistible to MBAs and consumers.

      • Love your username and patriotism - not many people are aware of the 1st amendment and its importance.

        • And I bet you thought you were being clever when you wrote that…. Kids these days…

          • @1st-Amendment: I just find the fascination with America interesting.

          • +2

            @1st-Amendment: not sure why people love jumping onto politics given any opportunity, but no not really, it's really only been the last few years that the murdoch media led tide has turned. nobody really cared about the uighurs before it was fashionable. if you think there's no evil in capitalism you only have to look at how well the US looks after its poor whilst the corporates fills up their pockets and buys off any politician that threatens their business

  • +1

    I wanted to buy this car 6 years ago but we dont have it in Australia, ended up with corolla hybrid

  • Can I connect all those ozbargained Ozito pxc batteries to extend its range?

    • Apparently you can just power all your Ozito power tools with this car. So chuck out all your Ozito power packs in advance.

  • I wouldn't but electric car now until the battery replacement cost is much less than nowadays.

    • +2

      Well I'd say in 7-10 years when this battery runs out they would be.

      • You hope. I saw a youtube video on the other day that a person bought a Tesla about 10 years ago and to replace the battery is same cost to buy a second hand Tesla. Battery costs US$21k, second hand car costs $22K.

  • +2

    Only air cooling for the battery is a big negative. Leaf's are notorious for battery degradation.

  • -4

    Dont buy China product, remember innocent people and children in Ukraine and potentially Taiwan - next Asian and soon Australia your family and friends

    • +2

      Good luck with that. Let us know how you go not buying any Chinese products.

  • Does anyone know how much these were selling for pre-covid?

  • -3

    This is a Japanese car. How quickly we forget. Disgusting.

    • +2

      Hahah good old jap crap days….

      Then it was hyundai. God their old cars were crap… Look at them now, they are pretty good

      Soon it will be Chinese cars. I mean the Havals are pretty nice.

      • -3

        I drive a Lexus. USA USA USA

        • +2

          what lexus is japanese isnt it? Toyota luxury?

    • +3

      Miso is a Japanese seasoning

  • at that price - I'm actually quite tempted :) only if the wait time isn't 12m

    let's see … save 100 bucks/w on fuel, 5 grands/yr, run it for 10 yrs and it's paid for itself.

  • +1

    Sorry if I'm missing something, but the link to the Leaf says from $55,554 for the base model and $66,491 for the upgrade?

  • +1

    What the government wants: everyone to just roll that coal
    What the people want: walkable cities and affordable+reliable public transport
    What everyone has compromised on: EV cars making use of road infrastructure built in the 50s which will outlive us all

    We live in a capitalist hellhole of our own making

  • +1

    where the hell do you get the BMW M8 Competition for "near $80K" ???

  • +1

    Wont get me driving in a Chinese car

    • +3

      What percentage of your car is made of Chinese parts you reckon?

      • +2

        A lot of plastic and electrical components are still not made in China for some brands particularly in Europe. They get theirs made in Eastern Europe by Valeo, Hella etc. I know from looking around my family's car.

    • +2

      Says he with everything electronic in his house made in China.Oh, & don’t forget a lot of components in your car come out of China as well.

  • I just wont bother with electric cars until the manufacturers stop producing new ICE models. Not enough infra, and uncertainties around durability. May be get a hybrid or phev for my next car.

    • +1

      And they wonder why America is 10 years ahead of us in electric car uptake.
      One part government inaction
      One part Murdoch Turdloids venting this pure propaganda.

      • My opinion based on my judgement. Enjoy your byd and let see how much resale it has in 10 years, if it lasts!

        • +1

          It'll be better than a hybrid or Phev or any ICE vehicle thats for sure ;)

          • @Drakesy: Yeah Mr know it all.

            • @aveeno bb: Facts don't lie
              Just have to look at tesla and ev depreciation vs ice vehicles in America

      • With abandoning the conservative govt. it will improve dramatically.
        China is the most improved in EV sales/infrastructure lately. In the last 6 months we only have ~1.1% EVs while world standard is 13% (far behind).

  • -1

    No more petrol, cheap service for EV
    But heard very expensive repair, and insurance will be increased too? So, what's the benefit for EV exactly

    • It sounds like you're aware of many of the factors. Now it's time for you to break out a spreadsheet and work it out for yourself.

  • +1

    typical replied with some political comments rather than the car itself. nice try everyone.

  • +1

    Unobtainable deal. Relies on buying a price report that even then would still require negotiation with a dealer. Negotiation is not a bargain. Maybe this should be moved to a forum post.

  • Not that I can afford an EV but curious how do the EV owners charge their cars? At home or mainly where the public charging stations are located? If charged at the charging stations, won’t the charging cables be easily removed by anyone walks past and has nothing better to do?

    • A friend with no charger at home charges at his local shopping centre when he goes shopping.

      won’t the charging cables be easily removed by anyone walks past and has nothing better to do?

      Unlikely, we live in a society. Haven't heard of this yet.

      • Maybe you are lucky. I have experienced more than a few times to believe that there are so many people out there really have nothing better to do.

    • the app tells you if someone disconnects it, you can also get locks

      • What kind of lock? Are you sure you can legally lock a public charging station cable to your car while using it?

        • Some cars come with locks in the charging port. When you plug the cable in, the car will grab it and lock it in when you lock the car and can't be removed until you unlock the vehicle.

  • +1

    wow. ~$45,000 for a very basic as you can get EV.
    How many KM would you have to drive to save enough fuel to make up the price difference on something like a Yaris, Corolla or i30?

  • What to get if you are looking for something more like CX5/CX9 size?

    • +1

      Why don't you just buy cx 5 or cx 9?

      • I already have a CX-5 but I also have a big ass solar system so I could be getting around for nearly free and contributing to renewable energy sector more by buying an electric car.

    • +1

      polestar 2?

  • +8

    I think you can have a perfectly valid aversion to Chinese car brands without being at all racist.

    I'm sure, over the next 5-10 years the leading Chinese brands will continue their transition from cheap/low quality to quite decent, desirable and respected cars. The same process has occurred with Japanese, and then South Korean cars.

    Think how far Hyundai has come from the Excel in the 1990's to the cars like the Ioniq 5, Tuscon, i30, Santa Fe etc, that are all towards the top of most car buyers lists in their respective categories. (Same with their sister brand Kia.)

    Because the process of designing and building a car takes several years or more, any automotive brand takes time to address feedback and implement improvements for their next models, so they can't suddenly become high quality overnight.

    It is my opinion (and that of most automotive journalists & enthusiasts) that Chinese cars are generally inferior to the leading brands across many metrics, and mainly compete on price. It is not a big quality gap, but it is there, even though they are rapidly improving.

    For many, their price advantage is enough to give them serious consideration. If you only want a car to get from A to B that has X Y features and you only have Z to spend, then perhaps a Chinese brand car is a great option for you!

    But for others, it can be a perfectly understandable non-racist approach to avoid them (for now), until they have reached a certain quality threshold. I also have issues with the Chinese automotive sector running foul of intellectual property law. (e.g. Landwind X7)

    I am certain that in 10 years time we will have exactly the same conversations about cheap Indian cars not being as good as those from China!

    • +1

      Totally agree with your comment. 30 years ago when I used to live in Europe, people were talking badly about Japanese cars being inferior quality and copycat of European version. Now they are very much sought after as quality car. There is no hiding though that some European model are really nice but if you can afford the 100k plus figure. Everything has their own niche market. Many purchases are driven by emotion and brand rather than quality or features

    • +1

      Chinese people don't want Chinese branded cars. I don't think it makes any sense for china to compete on the same level. But go for better. Price.

    • With so many cars on the road the speed is very limited. Safety is much less important in city driving & if the public transport gets necessary attention (hopefully with the new govt.) Look at the big picture not marketing. Road deaths drastically improved in the past 50 years.
      Most don't need expensive or 4WD cars (just bad fashion & they should be taxed with higher insurance).

      • Any government that taxes 4WD or SUVs will never see the light of day in government. Ever.

        Best we can do is gst on fuel/electricity

      • They are already taxed (albeit lightly) with higher rego (by weight) more fuel etc.

  • -1

    Reported as 'no deal' since its actually quite expensive..

    • It seems like a decent discount over RRP. There are issues with the deal but price isn't one of them.

      Don't let your emotions get in the way of other people's choices.

  • Built in Japan - Yes
    Has a great build quality - Have you ever been inside one? Didn’t feel any comfort and cameras are like 120p
    Has a decent inner city\suburban range - Nope
    Priced reasonably - Yes

    • Built in Japan? No,they are manufactured in the UK @ Nissans Sunderland plant.This where we get ours from.

  • +2

    I'll wait for an electric camry or corolla

  • +1

    Actually, incorrect,the Leaf is manufactured in Nissans plant in the UK @ their Sunderland plant(Leaf,Qashqai,Juke & Infinity).This is where we draw our Leafs from.There are ‘gray’ imports, which come out of Japan.

  • +1

    This is why EVs are a joke when it comes to climate change. People aren't going to magically go out and buy a brand new EV when they're already in massive amounts of debt due to having a large mortgage (or maybe they will, if they're stupid). We're one of the most indebted nations on the planet.

    If anything, I'll expect older Australians who have multiple properties to buy EVs. I ain't gonna do it, sorry Mother Earth.

    • Yeah, with a loan that’s probably easily going to be or is 20% compounding 🤮

      Private vehicles are unnecessary for most

      • Not for those in the suburbs or rural. Ever missed the bus and had to wait 1 hour for the next?

        And no, not everyone can afford to buy closer to infrastructure.

  • Anyone know how long is PHEV battery will lasts or warranted for and how much to replace it please ? A number of years ago, my friend told me to replace her Hybrid Camry battery will cost her $8k.

    • Are you asking this question because you're worried about an eventual $8000 bill ?

      Ask your friend to find out the cost of a brand new engine for a modern BMW… It's way more than $8000.
      If you're unlucky enough to need a new powerplant in the car's life, $8000 won't get you anywhere with many cars.

  • in Vic it would be $44,716 + $1,881.60 = $46,597.60 driveaway.

    Back in 2012 when the Nissan Leaf was originally released in Australia, the price was about $52,000 with the USD at about 0.60AUD=1USD

    Cheaper and a bigger batt now.

    Still 12 years old tech …

    We are discussing a brand new locally sourced Nissan Leaf, aren't we.
    And not used models from Japan.

    • All Leafs for our country are manufactured in the UK.

  • -2

    BYD Atto3 craps all over this

  • I still haven't worked out in what scenario it makes sense to buy an EV. Certainly not for a general home car.
    On paper the savings on fuel costs may justify the price if you're a full time Uber driver. However, how much of your time would be spent waiting for your batteries to charge? Every ~300km (which would be maybe every 7 hours?) you have to go home and recharge for a couple hours.
    I suppose some businesses where cars are used often but no more than 300km per day would be an optimal economic scenario. Like pathology labs going around town picking up lab test samples.

  • -1

    Cos it looks ugly as sin. I wouldn't drive it if I was offered it for free. Nissan lost the plot long time ago. They also got rid of the pulsar name when it was a well known model.

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