What's The One Biggest Thing Keeping You from Going to an iPhone?

O15 on 19/09/2022 - 14:09
Last edited 19/09/2022 - 18:08

Obviously this is a question for those folk with an Android phone (and those still desperately clinging to a Windows phone?).

Years ago, Android had many objective benefits over iPhone and I didn't really like anything iOS or iPhone related.

These days, the current iPhone design (12, 13 & 14) is by far my favourite design of any current phone, iOS has almost completely closed the feature gap and iPhones cameras are fantastic.

However, the one thing which I appreciate too much to give up is how easy it is to connect my phone to any Windows PC and transfer files to and from it.
I don't have to f around with iTunes or any other third party program. Just plug in and do what I need to do.

On the flip side, when someone brings me their iPhone and asks for help getting photos or a video off of it, my day is instantly ruined.
Plug it into a Windows PC and you have to figure out the arbitrary folder structure to find photos. Oh and you're sure as hell not going to copy files to the iPhone this way.
Even if I connect the iPhone to a Mac, sometimes the Photos app just doesn't want to do it. I've had it show some photos but not all with no apparent explanation as to what's happening.

As long as this remains the case, I will never buy myself an iPhone.

Does this bother anyone else? Do you have other reasons?

Mobile Apple Mobile Phone

Comments

  • nroko86 on 20/09/2022 - 21:35

    Download torrents to phone and then cast it on tv.

  • kokita on 20/09/2022 - 21:37

    I moved from iPhone to Samsung S10 Plus in 2019 with these reasons:

    1. Ultimate reason = Google Home and Google Nest Mini. If I have an iPhone, I need to open Google Assistant app instead of Siri.

    2. Price

    3. Dual SIM
    4. SD Card
    5. Camera with 3 lenses. (Back in 2019 iPhone did not have multi lenses)
    6. Wireless reverse charging.
    7. Game mode
    8. Widgets - iOS did not have back then
    9. Android Auto in 2019 was better because it uses Google Maps instead Apple Maps.
    10. In Melbourne, Myki for public transport only accepts Google Pay
    11. Samsung DEX - I use it when light travelling. Just plug an HDMI to the hotel TV and it becomes a laptop.
    12. We all use Google products: Gmail, Youtube, Chrome, Google Calendar, Maps, and Google search itself.
  • avseqcfc on 20/09/2022 - 21:38
    +1

    1 Ease of use- I wanted to share a large video I took of my brother in law playing guitar. We tried ages and gave up. I have pixel 6 pro and he's got iPhone 13.
    With another android we can just share the file via near by share. We had to transfer it to computer and he had to get it from there and I do t think it worked or sth.
    They try to make it impossible to share file between iPhone and other os. So they will never get my money.
    2 - cost of device - frankly they are over priced.

    • ldt on 21/09/2022 - 13:42

      For 1 just use any kind of cloud storage? Onedrive, icloud, googledrive. Or send it in any kind of messenger?

      • avseqcfc on 22/09/2022 - 00:12

        Why should I pay for a cloud service?
        Also have you tried sending a 2 GB video on what's app ? Or any other messenger?

        • ldt on 23/09/2022 - 07:56

          Most of them have free tiers. And yes, I have. It doesn't take that long.

    • dbun1 on 22/09/2022 - 07:28

      The reverse is if you had an iPhone you could have AirDropped it :p

      • avseqcfc on 22/09/2022 - 08:56

        You are right.
        Please send me money so I can buy an iPhone right now. :⁠-⁠D

  • DefariumZ on 20/09/2022 - 21:56

    The main reason is freedom to modify the software as I need (+SD cards etc).
    There is nothing enticing me towards the iphone, I do acknowledge their superior cameras and their use case but it simply isn't for me….

  • loopy18 on 20/09/2022 - 22:05

    Android is more flexible in terms of UI. I don't know if they added this feature to IOS but you can close all your recent apps on Android with one click, but IOS you have to swipe every recent app to close. iPhones are premium feeling devices. But I cannot justify the price tag.

    Plus my S20+ has a seperate secure folder/sandbox feature where as iPhones im sure you can have the same but just have to pay for another app. Dont forget the superfast adapter which came with my phone. Absolutely love this feature. Apple are genius marketers.

  • EdenKai on 20/09/2022 - 22:15
    +1

    I had the first iphone, the 3g i think? and i kept owning iphones up until 5/6. Every one I had was slow and just always had problems. I also hated using itunes. I know that most of those problems have gone away with newer iterations, but since ive had my galaxy phones, ive been happy. Its fast, very customisable, and I can import all my data to new phones and i wont need to set up a thing.

  • zaqwsx3 on 20/09/2022 - 22:58

    Android call screening, hold for me, ability to run adblocking across all apps, sponsor block, and more … oh, and price.

  • postform on 20/09/2022 - 23:16

    USB type c..it's literally the only thing that's stopping me.

  • Blargman2001 on 20/09/2022 - 23:24

    Apple fanboys, the shameless, money grabbing culture of the company, Apple fanboys.

    • poppingtags on 20/09/2022 - 23:48
      +3

      Ah yes, as opposed to the non-money-grabbing tech monoliths like Google.

      • Blargman2001 on 21/09/2022 - 10:49
        +1

        Google won't purposely refuse to adopt industry standards so you can lock them in to your ecosystem.

        • poppingtags on 21/09/2022 - 11:23
          +2

          Google developed Android so that they'd be able to harvest data and deliver their ads on as many devices as possible. Their entire profit motive is dependent on having as high a number of devices as possible. That's why they make it accessible, because its how they grab your money - not because they love you.

          Both Android and iOS have their pros and cons, but expressing your distaste for Apple fanboys and then trying to portray Google as anything but another money grabbing tech company makes you a fanboy too, just as wrong and annoying as Apple's.

          • Blargman2001 on 21/09/2022 - 14:46
            +1

            @poppingtags: All companies exist to profit. I never said Google are saints. Google go about gaining users in a different way than Apple. I know who I'd rather give my money to.

          • Exec-Matrix on 21/09/2022 - 21:51

            @poppingtags: Well it would be unjust to dismiss the fact that the entire sentiment you've portrayed of Google applies to Apple also. They harvest your data all-day every day.

  • mitt on 21/09/2022 - 00:11
    +2

    Self respect.

  • Timothy-Mineworker on 21/09/2022 - 06:34
    +1

    Closed Eco System.

    Apple seems to support things that mostly support them, Android on the other hand is open and works with pre much everything, or can work with everything, I love the ability to side load aps

  • PharrCarnell on 21/09/2022 - 06:35
    -1

    Is the iPhone made by Apple?

    That's the reason! I WILL NOT buy anything they sell…and been that way since Macs first hit the Australian market…FCUK Steve Jobs…Thief of the Century!!

  • Exec-Matrix on 21/09/2022 - 06:53
    +4

    I used to go back and front between iOS and Android and now decided to stick to Android for a while as my main phone.

    I admit I get giddy at a new iPhone launch and look at ordering one but just can't do it.

    After being able to set-up a phone to how YOU want it to be, it's extremely frustrating using an iPhone.

    Things that annoy me on an iPhone:

    • phone turns on when plugging it in to charge. If it's off I want it to stay off
    • no restart toggle just off
    • no battery time to full
    • settings burried within menus. Why can't I toggle location from drop down shade?
    • default apps. Signal is my default messaging app on Android where ALL my messages are routed through. Signal is treated just as an app on ios
    • No proper multitasking
    • No button to close all apps
    • no T9 dialling
    • spam filtering is almost a non event
    • Widgets can't be interacted properly with
    • hardly any customisation. I'm not talking themes etc, I'm talking simple stuff like where I want to place an icon
    • No USB C. iPad mini 6 switched to it why not iPhone?
    • BS stance on privacy. I don't see how Apple is any more private as they collect your personal data much in the same way as Google.

    These are just a few random off the top of my head. Apple's right to repair also is proper trash. Watch a few Hugh Jeffries videos to see what I mean. Why do they need to put so many different screw types in one phone?

    Lastly, I don't get the "iPhone just works" comment. Android just "works" also and has for me since Samsung Note 5 days.

    My last iPhone was a 13 Pro Max and now using a Fold 4.

  • h0mbre on 21/09/2022 - 06:56
    -6

    Anyone that says anything other than price is either in the small percentage of power users that utilise Android to its fullest or simply in denial.

    On this forum viewpoints will be skewed but price is almost always the deciding factor in my opinion.
    Heck, even I shuddered forking out for my iPhone and its a bloody business expense.

    If the Apple flag ship went on sale for 50% off, this website would crash and the first in line would be the naysayers that are on here peddling their Bing Bong Fuk X8 Pro (Global Edition) that they got for $299. "But it has the same CPU as the flagships and I sideloaded Google Camera APK, its basically the same as a Pixel now!"

    • Joxer on 23/09/2022 - 13:28

      So you're basically saying Android is for power users otherwise for plebs Apple is enough?

      So there's no justification for the price. It's like saying why would you buy a fully kitted Kia when you can get a base model Merc. Yeah, some people want the badge, but that's all you're getting for your money.

      So sure, if the base model Merc was the same price as the base model Kia then everyone would buy it, but the fact is that it's not. And therefore the value equation holds. The power user buys the flagship Android because it does what's needed more than the Apple product for equivalent price or even if it was higher. You've essentially agreed people buy Apple just for the brand name.

      Apple are not going to drop their price because really it's a Veblen good.

      • h0mbre on 24/09/2022 - 12:44

        I didn’t say any of what you are stating.

        I said aside from people who use android to its fullest, I believe price to almost always be the deciding factor as the one biggest thing keeping you from going to an iPhone - the question in the title of this forum post.

        I stand by my comment and I suspect you haven’t picked up on the nuance of this. The psychology behind the decision making of a purchase is quite intriguing to me.

        Your Kia vs Mercedes argument is a good segue in to another related discussion but it is fundamentally flawed in this discussion because it hinges on your assertion that an iPhone offers nothing superior over its competition except for its brand name which is simply false.

  • J6 on 21/09/2022 - 07:03

    Price
    Apks (basically every paid for service is free)

  • dbun1 on 21/09/2022 - 07:11

    I use both and could happily use one or the other as I don't have much interest in customising everything to the n'th degree.

    The main reason for sticking with iPhone as I generally upgrade often and the old phone goes to my wife, so it's just easier to stick with the iPhone.

    Some things are annoying such as having the ability to control my Sonos stuff from the lock screen or swipe down menu on Android but not on iOS.

    The Google keyboard on Android is great. I love the little down arrow and collapses it. Sometimes in iOS a text field appears below the keyboard and you can't swipe down any further and swiping down on the keyboard doesn't collapse it.

    Probably at some point I'll switch as flagship Android phones can be had cheap if you're happy to sit a generation or two behind. I don't need the latest and greatest and phones are at the point now where the differences are getting smaller and smaller.

    Oh, and the consistent back button or gesture on Android is awesome. Regardless of what you are doing it just goes back one screen or step.

  • Overclocked91 on 21/09/2022 - 07:13

    I have moved from Pixel to iPhone 13 pro max and to be honest it's not all it's cracked up to be. Usability is better with apple but I find the google interface works a lot better with programs/apps I use like Maps and Gmail. It also feels extremely heavy when holding the iPhone vs Pixel. What pushed me away from Pixel is that they removed the facial recognition from the 4xl and the fingerprint scanner on the pixel is absolute rubbish. I will probably go back to Pixel or Samsung after my iPhone.

  • ContinuousCustomer on 21/09/2022 - 07:20

    I usually follow a pattern of 3 years of Android, 3 years of iPhone or switch when the phone is dead.

    I like iPhone over all better but I get bored of IOS after awhile.

  • beefmaster on 21/09/2022 - 07:47

    Chrome browser usability is better in Android. Android is swipe right to go back. Where else iPhone have to use the back button. Might seem minor but is a big deal when handling pop up.

    • ldt on 21/09/2022 - 13:43

      Not sure if it's a setting you have turned off, but I swipe right to go back in Chrome on my iPhone…

      • beefmaster on 21/09/2022 - 14:51

        It is swipe right on a newly open popup tab.

        In Android, I would simply swipe right on a new popup tab. That would close the popup tab and back to my previous tab

        In Apple, when I swipe right on a newly open popup tab nothing happens. I would need to go to tab manager.

        Is very minor, but when you read manga that popup on every page gets annoying.

  • [Deactivated] on 21/09/2022 - 08:16

    Not price for me, I use an equivalent priced Samsung.

    Lack of a fingerprint sensor keeps me from going back. Everything else I could get used to.

    The performance advantage of Apple phones is disappearing, maybe not on paper, but a midrange Android ($600-$800) is now 'fast enough' to never feel slow.

    Headphone and SD card reader is already disappearing on Android phones, so there is no advantage there

  • havabeer on 21/09/2022 - 08:38

    I wonder if we will ever get to the day where we can move from one ecosystem to another without the loss of app purchases.
    I assume the restore purchases option you get with some apps can't transfer from iOS to Android and V/v, although if the app has an independent account associated it should be possible.

  • BartholemewH on 21/09/2022 - 08:43

    I have an iphone 13 (work) and a Realme X3 Superzoom (personal). I end up doing half the work tasks involving shuttling PDFs around etc on the android. So much for ease of use on the Apple.

  • winhhh on 21/09/2022 - 08:50

    No chat heads for Facebook Messenger
    Imagine having to completely go from one app to another just to reply to someone looooooool

  • inherentchoice on 21/09/2022 - 09:00

    Had an iPhone for work and just found it too clunky and difficult to use.

  • iDroid on 21/09/2022 - 09:31
    +2

    The Apple ecosystem.

  • SkMed on 21/09/2022 - 09:40

    Everything you mentioned including price, reparability etc. No headphone jack, proprietary connector when everything else is USB C, and odd that iPads use USB C, so you need two chargers if you have both.

    Also, there's literally no way to download longer form large/raw video files from iphones/ipads without compressing them. Really screwed me over about 6 months ago when using one to film for 2 days, then the raw video files were just stuck on the iphone for eternity. Also seemed to have some major auto-focus issues. That and I'm still sour about the iPhone clock/alarm issues from when I had one like 6 years ago which kept waking me up early or late for weeks lol.

    Do iPhone finally have widgets?

  • sd on 21/09/2022 - 09:46

    Lots of reasons really (for background I was on 3G, then upto iphone 5, then tried to get back in on iphone8 and gave up)

    • Price vs reward is extremely lopsided for iphone ( I usually pay about $350 for my phones)
    • Battery life (I think this has improved now) but my android redmi note, goes for about 2 days
    • I use a lot of home screen widgets to get things done, unsure about iphone now but that was a big issue for a while for me
    • Not a huge fan of apple because they seem to be like the old sony, just trying to build walls around users, and charge them heaps of money
    • The single button feels like the one button apple mouse (not as intuitive) - this is personally for me, I understand that if you learn a lot you will be good, but everytime I try to use an iphone, I have to think a lot because of the lack of back button
    • If I don't like the look or features, I am stuffed with iphone (I can't change providers), with my phone I am changing my phone on average once a year depending on who has better feature set, bad battery on this brand, change it to another. They only come in one model which is usually dated and hasn't changed since iphone 4
    • Every man and his dog has iphones
    • My laptop is usb-c (so right now I only need to carry one charger for my laptop, my phone and my airbuds), with Iphones it will be a whole lot of adjustments
    • I add a sd card to my phone (to add data) and use a dual sim when traveling
    • Google home works better with android
    • I use myki on my mobile, with iphone will need to carry an extra card
    • BewareOfThe Dog on 23/09/2022 - 11:33

      Yes Sony, were one of the worst companies I ever dealt with, then we started selling Apple……..

  • RotundPolarBear on 21/09/2022 - 10:10

    I wouldn't mind an iPhone but I'm too poor.

  • noshopping on 21/09/2022 - 11:13

    The fact that Apple accounts don't even have token based 2FA, just phone 2FA verifications. Easy to get hacked with sim swap.

  • payless69 on 21/09/2022 - 11:19
    -1

    Han did a comparison between 13 and 14 both pro on his "Chloe". No difference only video improvements, poor Yanks pay for a "pro" and get no slot?
    Techrax proved that a big hammer does not trigger the car crash mode.
    The S22u has a stick!

  • JuryWheel on 21/09/2022 - 12:08

    Id happily own an iphone, but its the price for me.

  • Kiro on 21/09/2022 - 12:19

    the eco system gets me, id like a bit of freedom but also customisation. the UI looks well drab and they are all the same.

    i did enjoy using my iphone SE 2016 model due to the size (which i would love to have in android size) and thumb gymnastics are not an issue here.

    dual sim, i know that you can e sim and physical sim to get the dual system going but this was or still is an issue with me.

    battery life, my dual sim mobile gets me 2 days of battery life and my work iphone was barely getting me 1.

  • GoIdDigger on 21/09/2022 - 13:20
    +1

    The price and no Youtube Vanced

  • maximus117 on 21/09/2022 - 13:23
    +1
    1. TrueCaller - works flawlessly on Android - Much needed when there are so many marketing and spam calls.
    2. Auto Google Photos Backup - On iphone you need to open Google Photos and struggle to keep screen on till photos are backed up.
    3. Ability to schedule SMS messages.
    4. Ability to download torrents directly on phone (handy when you want something to watch on plane/train)
    5. Better File Management
    6. Better dual sim management on Android
    • zootv on 21/09/2022 - 14:04

      Auto Google Photos Backup - On iphone you need to open Google Photos and struggle to keep screen on till photos are backed up.

      On my iPhone 12 the photos backup in the background without having to open Google Photos.

  • giventofly on 21/09/2022 - 14:52

    Notification control

  • mightyfes on 21/09/2022 - 15:17

    i think it's because people are poor and they cant afford apple.

  • OzzyOzbourne on 21/09/2022 - 15:33

    Been Android up until a year ago when I got an iPhone 13 pro max. The phone is fine (although some of the hardware is behind other flagships), but I've tried and tried to like ios yet I still despise it. The amount of simple basic features that are missing, which Android has had for years, is astonishing.
    I just had to wait a year for a major update to ios 16 to get a battery percentage in the icon. And usb2…wtf? 1.5 minutes to copy a 6 minute 1080p video to my laptop 😱
    Ios is appalling and this will be my first and last iPhone because of that.

  • Rsoul on 21/09/2022 - 15:48
    +1

    I have an iPhone for work and just turn it off and forward work calls to my android instead. Reason is I find iPhones to be too restrictive and nothing to use.

  • So Was Red on 21/09/2022 - 15:55
    +1

    Customisation and the time already spent on customisation
    Custom home screen layout with Nova Launcher (sleek themed combo icon/folders and invisible buttons)
    Kustom Widget - Date, time, music, next alarm and some other info displayed exactly how I want it
    Custom Macros with MacroDroid,
    Physical buttons as media controls: SideActions for Play/Pause with power button and Next Track for Fwd/Back with volume buttons.
    I love it!

  • Gratt on 21/09/2022 - 16:00
    +1

    My big beef with apple is the high cost of repairs. They keep costs high by having a security number matching program. This makes putting a third party screen battery or anything else impossible. Taking a part from one old apple phone to repair another most likely won't work. This also makes them a very bad environmental steward. New batteries and screens are priced at a point where buying a new phone is more attractive than repairing an old phone. If you care about the environment don't buy Apple.

    They make next to no profits in Australia and pay little here in Australian company tax.

    The sue their competition for the most ridiculous reasons. There are anticompetitive and thereby anti Australian. They breached an Australian held wifi patent for years and eventually made a settlement that although substantial was a mere fraction of what it was worth.

    They are a great option for technically inept people. Everything is locked up so solidly that if you want to do anything out of the ordinary, well buy an Android.

    Apart from that they just so so very stylish. Like you are not cool unless you have one.

  • shaybisc on 21/09/2022 - 16:06

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o35DUtGmtW8

    The iPhone 14 Pro Is A SCAM Of An Upgrade!

    Tech Tablets

    • Griffindinho on 22/09/2022 - 13:07

      Shitty clickbait

      • shaybisc on 23/09/2022 - 07:52

        Actually very fair review.

  • dechah on 21/09/2022 - 17:31
    +1

    No other phone gives me the functionality I use everyday with my Samsung flagships. No iPhone gives me "Secure Folder". Samsung Secure folder gives me a virtual entirely secure second operating system on the handset where I can install apps, and any photo I take inside Secure Folder using the camera app, stays in Secure Folder. That is just too hard for me to give up given the work I do.

    My S22U also includes an S pen. That is so useful for me, from remotely controlling my phone cam to jotting down notes during calls and as thoughts pop into my head. And the note propagate up to the cloud without needing to unlock my handset.

    And my camera Zoom, 10x optical and great out to 30 times. Fun to play with out to 100 times. Last Saturday I was in a large restaurant. The specials were too far away for me to read, simply zoomed in handset and got a perfectly legible pic at about 80 times zoom. simples. I was in a Starbucks and didn't need to get off my lazy but and simply deep zoomed into the small sing across the cafe to get the wifi password.

    I love the deep integration between my Samsung handset and Windows 11 on my PC. I can chat and SMS text directly from my pc , and I can transfer files to/from the devices.

    And finally I simply love OneUI as a user interface.

    And I never pay full price for the handset, as I get excellent trade in values plus cash bonus when the next model comes out., and there is always a free gift thrown in as well. I could care less about resale.

  • Sharknado88 on 21/09/2022 - 18:00

    Just look at current stats of people using android vs iOS.

  • harrywwc on 21/09/2022 - 18:21

    Apple.

  • liongalahad on 21/09/2022 - 18:55
    +4

    I am a Pixel 6 owner and a former iPhone user, and I gotta say, iOS is a much smoother and bug free experience. Pixel 6 in particular I feel is a bit of a trainwreck, riddled with bugs from the faulty fingerprint reader to the screen random flickering and various bugs with bluetooth… I am seriously thinking of selling it…
    However I will not go back to iOS and the main reasons are :
    1) I like the google app universe and the seamless experience with them - Photos, Chrome, Google One, Google Home etc Yeah I know you can have those on iOS but it's not the same
    2) I feel Apple is a lot behind when it comes to smart home features - a lot less compatible devices out there - and the HomePod is a total waste of money.
    3) I love smatwatches and I really dislike Apple Watch look - so I am stuck with Android Wear OS - which does not go well with iOS

    • ihfree on 21/09/2022 - 19:19

      What smart watch would you currently recommend?

      • liongalahad on 21/09/2022 - 22:09
        +1

        I have a Fossil Sport . Cheap but good looking imo. Battery is not great but lasts morning to night. Wear OS is pretty good.

  • ozwolf on 21/09/2022 - 19:43

    As OP mentions -
    1) Android is easy to transfer files. Android phone is as easy for transferring files as USB. Just copy and paste
    2) Several much Cheaper options available in Android.
    3) Less famous phonemakers can have very advanced features for a much lower price
    4) External memory card in many phones - no storage problems
    5) Headphone jack in many phones
    6) Google ecosystem is almost impossible to avoid in any case. So you're ready to go directly, as everyone has used a google product in any case.

  • ProlapsedHeinous on 21/09/2022 - 19:47

    A few things

    1. Apple Religion
    2. Walled Garden
    3. Ridiculous amount of nickel and diming their customers.
  • jlogic on 21/09/2022 - 20:32
    +4

    Sheesh I bought an iPhone because I was tired of all the customisation and stuff like that.

    Treat my phone like a fridge. It just needs to work when I need it to work. Apple is boring AF but they sure know how to make it work and make it work smooth. I know my phone will work with no issues anytime and everytime. When I was on Android there would be instances the phone would hang and bug out, but those were the day when KitKat was the latest thing.

    Never had any issues with files coming off the phone, mind you I normally save everything to the cloud these days. Have been able to upload files to the phones from the PC.

    Only Google product I use is Maps. Everything else is Microsoft 365.

    All I can say is Apple support has been second to none. I have had iPhones replaced outside of warranty twice due to defects. My Airpods Pros replaced outside 2 year warranty period, they even told me the other pod was on its way out as well. iPads replaced once due to a display issue that cropped up almost at warranty expiry time.

    Sure I still buy android phones to tinker with… go Poco :) but the experience is different.

  • daniesaurs on 21/09/2022 - 21:12
    +1

    Hey so I went from iPhone 12 -> Fold 3 -> S22 -> iPhone 14 Pro

    Reasons why I like Android and want to go back and get the Zenfone 9 would be:

    • One handed accessibility and custom gesture options using OneUI's One hand Operation +, it's difficult to use the iPhone 14 Pro with one hand, you can't swipe right to left and have to reach the top corners sometimes for going back and rehiding the keyboard. I swear they do it on purpose to get people to break phones more often.

    • USBC - faster charging and faster transfer speeds, more accessory support on USBC

    • Real custom icons, real custom lock screens, widgets and every aspect of UI

    • OneUI, ZenUI has multitasking and splitscreen - very useful

    • iOS experience is destroyed by lack of third party app support - I'm in dark mode but the Instagram and Youtube apps and a lot of other apps open with the whitest splash screen with the brightness of the sun. Apps will stay in light mode if they don't have support for dark mode and the iOS keyboard will also be in lightmode.

    • App store apps don't have the 'apple' tax and are cheaper - can also install 'free' apks and take advantage of apps that are more useful such as Moonlight, GBA, Switch emulation (smash bros at 60fps is fun).

    • Price over performance - phone still thermal throttles outdoors when you're taking photos and will dim down - Genshin can only sustain 60fps for 10-15 minutes before hitting 50 fps. Asus ROG 6D and Zenfone 9 looks promising especially for its price.

    • For Samsung you also get Windows integration - can drag photos on to PC nice and fast, wirelessly - can get notifications on Windows

    Reason I got the iPhone

    • S22 Battery life = 3-4hours SOT, iPhone 14 Pro battery SOT 7+ hours

    • No lag in normal use - eg. taking phone out of pocket to take a photo or video takes less than 3 seconds VS S22, animations and loading lags, and then shutter lags, takes 6+ seconds, big difference for me. Less animation lag and loading lags but this could be because I had the S22.

    • The camera + performance + battery life on the iPhone are better than all android phones under 6.1'', Zenfone 9 I would've considered but it's only importable rn and I don't know if apps will lag and heard there is shutter lag and over sharpening post processing.

    • Airdrop

  • snorkey on 21/09/2022 - 21:14

    Over the past few years, I've been using my phone as my home media PC. Youtubing/spotify freely without ads and downloading files via megaNZ or Yt dl or torrents.
    I turn on my old laptop about once a month to transfer files over to eventually save in an external HDD (old habits).
    The pro iPhones max seem to be good hardware wise and am sure the UX is good for normal things but I'm waiting for iPhones to give me that android flexibility software wise.
    Maybe that will happen around the time iPhones start doing foldables and also use a universal port

    Oh and still waiting on multi os platform to properly be a thing for WhatsApp to not lose history 😂

  • DashCam AKA Rolts on 21/09/2022 - 21:26

    Why would I want to buy a product from a company that treats its Australian employees like this.
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/sep/21/bully-in-…

    • jlogic on 22/09/2022 - 08:22
      +1

      Well I guess you wouldn’t be buying a lot of things or shopping in a lot of shops then… most companies treat their employees like shit.

  • OzzyOzbourne on 21/09/2022 - 22:22

    Resizable keyboard no
    Symbols on the keyboard keys no
    Interactive widgets no
    Full screen widgets no
    Place home screen icons where you want no
    Coloured home screen folders no
    App library of all your apps no
    Settings for an app within the app no
    Video below 1080p no
    Battery percentage yes with latest ios16…🙄
    Usb 2 yes
    Slow charging yes

  • pformag on 21/09/2022 - 23:01

    Modded Apk's

  • baskinghobo on 21/09/2022 - 23:26

    I heard iPhones have better optimised apps because they don't have to cater to a ton of different phones like Android. I'm wondering if there will be any noticeable speed differences if I change phones so I am considering getting one just for that reason one day

    • daniesaurs on 22/09/2022 - 09:46

      Between S22 Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 and iPhone 14 Pro, yes the animations and opening of apps are more consistently fast on iPhone. As for speed they end up being about the same in performance tests it’s just whether you’re okay to see glitches and lags every now and then.

  • Duckie2hh on 21/09/2022 - 23:26

    When apple throttled people's phones to "conserve" battery in older phones….

    • dealsucker on 22/09/2022 - 10:05

      Not to conserve battery einstein but to make sure the phone did not crash or shutdown because the depleted battery can't fulfil the deamnd from the SOC.

  • Windows7forever on 22/09/2022 - 05:55

    The price AND I don't want to see Apple have a monopoly in the market. They are already too big and powerful.

    • Griffindinho on 22/09/2022 - 13:08
      +2

      Google owns the andriod ecosystem lol

  • Jhonka on 22/09/2022 - 06:43

    Nothing is stopping me. I just prefer Android for customisation, variety of apps and access to the file system.

  • DingoBilly on 22/09/2022 - 07:41
    +2

    I'm a power user, I like to customise and set everything up my way including custom UIs etc.

    Can't do that on an iPhone as far as I'm aware to the level I want.

    Also iPhone prices are a joke. I bought my latest top end phone for $400. At that price Apple has nothing that competes with the specs.

  • greater mimic on 22/09/2022 - 08:16

    Nzb360 not on iOS. One of my most used apps

  • branners on 22/09/2022 - 09:06

    My budget for a phone is $30pm. That has to pay for all the calls and the handset. Nothing in the iPhone universe will fit, or even get close to that

  • AuQld on 22/09/2022 - 09:10

    I had an iPod shuffle once, I found out the hard way what erase and sync does after many hours of getting music into it, I got easily frustrated for hours trying to drag and drop my files in. Eventually I went back to my much cheaper, which had more memory a digital screen and could just drag and drop music into it digital music player.

    I never went back to Apple and laughed at anyone who got dragged into their monopoly of bullshit.

  • popopopo on 22/09/2022 - 11:21
    +2

    1) ugly generic apple device design that hasn't changed in a decade. The ugly cutout they tried to be creative with is still ugly.
    2) device lock in and poor eco system like itunes is a problem. You can easily switch from pixel to Samsung but going to/from apple is a pain. Missing features/apps etc
    3) while ppl think apple is ultra secure, it's not, most leaks have originated from iCloud. But because it's expensive ppl wrongly assume it must be the most secure as well.
    3) price
    4) on the plus side while you pay 3x to 4x the average price of android but do get unmatched battery life and performance

    • GrueHunter on 23/09/2022 - 23:28

      iPhone users: what's iTunes?

  • CoreJava on 22/09/2022 - 12:01
    +2

    Just dont support apple

  • Mumbles on 22/09/2022 - 12:05
    +1

    There are way more freebie games/apps for Android than IOS and deals on OzBargain. If you add up all the money spent on software you would save more on an Android OS (eg. games, photo editing software, camera software, Wifi/network tools, PDF editor/document scanner, etc).

    For mid-range Android phones there are always OzBargain specials eg. $35 Oppo AX7 @ Kmart.
    Apple controls its pricing so stores cannot do clearance sales or discounts.

    A $50 mid-range Android phone is way better value than a $800 budget Apple product. eg. larger screen, 3.5mm headphone jack, FM radio. For the price difference you could spend it on SD memory card, bluetooth headphones, case, digital camera, possibly a tablet, possibly pre-paid phone plan.

    Updates and support are a non-issue when you can buy new Android smartphones <$150. I just upgrade to a new Android phone when I see a good OzBargain deal.

  • [Deactivated] on 22/09/2022 - 12:29
    -2

    File management is simple via iCloud. Making a physical connection to a device completely arbitrary, I haven't done it in years.

  • LoserScott on 22/09/2022 - 16:20

    Lenovo Legion y 90, and xiomai.

    But let's be frank it's freaking android…

  • scart on 22/09/2022 - 16:56

    On top of a lot of reasons above, Root access: I can block ads (YT and in app), remove analytics, unlock in-app-purchases for free, memory edit applications, backup system files, automate tasks, etc.

    • Nillionaire on 23/09/2022 - 21:20

      unlock in-app-purchases for free

      So theft

      • SydStrand on 23/09/2022 - 23:03

        Are you surprised? Half these comments are all about ad blocking, emulation, and torrenting.

        • Nillionaire on 24/09/2022 - 01:44

          I don't think those are as bad as bypassing payment

  • Ultimate Gattai on 22/09/2022 - 17:13
    +1

    Price, interface, features, being locked into Apple's ecosystem… Iphones are a big nope for me, not even a competition. I still hate them for championing the removal of features like headphone jacks, especially when it compelled every other smart phone manufacturer to follow suit.

  • colossus on 22/09/2022 - 18:43
    +2

    iPhone user here but only moved recently.

    There are so many things with which I've been pleasantly surprised with this move. I'm glad I did but there are still frustrations with iPhones being so restrictive in some areas. If I were to list items/possible issues of which Android should be aware, they would be:

    • No headphone jack (over the years, this stopped me purchasing a number of Android phones too!)

    • Lack of access to copy files EASILY; A lot of apologists have listed their 'easy' ways to do this but it's just not as easy or simple as Android

    • No web interface for iMessage. I don't use a Mac and miss the ability to type a SMS from my PC

    • Apps in AppStore at least twice the price

    If these things are important for a given user's usage pattern, then don't move.

    Also, and perhaps most importantly, this isn't a holy war. People are allowed to like what they like. I like both Android phones and iPhones. Each have great things and frustrating things. 🙂

    Happy debating!

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