What's The One Biggest Thing Keeping You from Going to an iPhone?

O15 on 19/09/2022 - 14:09
Last edited 19/09/2022 - 18:08

Obviously this is a question for those folk with an Android phone (and those still desperately clinging to a Windows phone?).

Years ago, Android had many objective benefits over iPhone and I didn't really like anything iOS or iPhone related.

These days, the current iPhone design (12, 13 & 14) is by far my favourite design of any current phone, iOS has almost completely closed the feature gap and iPhones cameras are fantastic.

However, the one thing which I appreciate too much to give up is how easy it is to connect my phone to any Windows PC and transfer files to and from it.
I don't have to f around with iTunes or any other third party program. Just plug in and do what I need to do.

On the flip side, when someone brings me their iPhone and asks for help getting photos or a video off of it, my day is instantly ruined.
Plug it into a Windows PC and you have to figure out the arbitrary folder structure to find photos. Oh and you're sure as hell not going to copy files to the iPhone this way.
Even if I connect the iPhone to a Mac, sometimes the Photos app just doesn't want to do it. I've had it show some photos but not all with no apparent explanation as to what's happening.

As long as this remains the case, I will never buy myself an iPhone.

Does this bother anyone else? Do you have other reasons?

Mobile Apple Mobile Phone

Comments

  • DashCam AKA Rolts on 19/09/2022 - 14:26
    +57
    1. The price.
    2. The iPhone can't do anything that I want to do, that my $400 android can't do - call, message, text, navigate, email, browse the web.
    3. I don't use any Apple products, so I don't need my phone to integrate with my other devices.
    • Kangal on 22/09/2022 - 09:50
      +2

      Pretty much.

      Think it's 2021, and compare the recent Samsung Galaxy A52-S (8GB/256GB) for AUD $500. Now grab a $20 Spigen ThinFit case, $10 Glass Protector, and a $90 Samsung 512GB microSD card. Perhaps grab a $50 iPega gamepad for fun. Grab a $100 voucher and buy a couple of great Apps, and really make the device tailored to you.

      Now look to the Apple iPhone 13 Max (6GB/256GB) for AUD $2,000. Add in a $40 case and $80 Screen Protector, no Expandable Memory. Perhaps grab a $150 SteelSeries gamepad for fun. Enjoy what you're allowed to in that walled-garden.

      https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=11039&idPhone…

  • 01001101 01000010 on 19/09/2022 - 14:34
    +6

    The killer bit on Android for me is being able to have my work apps (MS Teams and Outlook) on a separate profile that I can turn on and off. On my day off I just toggle work to off, and it is like not having anything work installed on my phone.

    The app for anyone wanting to do the same is called Island.

    If anyone knows if IOS has something similar, please let me know!

    • freefall101 on 19/09/2022 - 15:10
      +13

      iOS has "Focus", you can customise the hell out of what your phone will do at any given time and with different settings - https://www.macrumors.com/guide/ios-16-focus/

      • 01001101 01000010 on 19/09/2022 - 15:13
        +1

        I didn't know IOS had that, thanks heaps!

      • Quantumcat on 19/09/2022 - 16:56

        I noticed Focus as a new feature, had ignored it so far, now I am intrigued. Thank you!

      • ctg on 22/09/2022 - 10:09

        The problem with Focus is that it (only) works via app whitelisting, not blacklisting. It means need to create a focus and whitelist every app and contact I may want to see notifications for.

        I'd contemplated getting a second sim and setting up the phone to behave as a business device during work hours, however I don't think it's feasible.

        • freefall101 on 22/09/2022 - 13:17

          They fixed that in iOS 16, there’s now the option to allow notifications from or silence notifications from

  • apsilon on 19/09/2022 - 14:35
    +8

    Same as your main complaint, can't easily use it as a storage device plus there's a couple of key apps that aren't available on iphone (though there's likely alternatives by now) and of course price. Spending $800 on an Android (when it was basically half price) vs $2500 for the equivalent tier iphone. It's not about being able to afford it, I just simply find the pricing ridiculous (on all phones to an extent).

  • kerfuffle on 19/09/2022 - 14:39
    +42

    i) USB-C
    ii) Not being able to arrange the icons the way I want them

    • apsilon on 19/09/2022 - 14:57
      +7

      Oh yeah, forgot about USB C. I actually won't buy any device that's not USB C now. It's amazing how many devices are persisting with mini and mirco which is bad enough then you have apple persisting with lightning.

      • BewareOfThe Dog on 20/09/2022 - 09:00

        I bought a music device this year, and it still had the old Micro USB connector on there!!!

    • Batdad on 19/09/2022 - 17:51

      You can arrange the icons?

      • kerfuffle on 19/09/2022 - 18:04
        +7

        On Android, yes. If I want icons every second icon space or in a X or Z formation, I can.

    • Ghost47 on 19/09/2022 - 22:51

      It is very disappointing when you cannot arrange things the way you want to.

    • randysal on 20/09/2022 - 14:30

      Yes, good point. This is the feature that has stopped me.

      Thinking about the future though - the charging is wireless for majority of my uses and most things are on the cloud/available wirelessly. It is quite possible to see the usb-c on the phones disappearing. Maybe not quite yet but in a couple of years.

    • ctg on 22/09/2022 - 10:12

      USB-C is a dog's breakfast of standards. The female port is also prone to sand and fluff getting pushed in, and harder to remove without damaging the tongue.

    • TheRealCJ on 23/09/2022 - 11:47

      I love the launcher I use for my Android phone. It's called Niagara and it's a minimalist launcher where I have a short list of my most used apps on the page, and everything else is alphabetically listed by gently swiping down one side of the lower half of the screen to instantly reach whatever app I'm looking to open.

  • JimmyF on 19/09/2022 - 14:44
    +16

    Do you have other reasons?

    Walled gardens, having to use the crappy cables that break all the time, itunes, doing things apples way only. Holding it wrong.

    Price….

    • Dsiee on 20/09/2022 - 21:07
      +7

      USB C, lack of miricast support, no extensions on browsers as they favour shitty safari, priority treatment of their in house apps over others to the detriment of useablilty.

      Most of all, the Apple wankery. Bloody "Dynamic Island" bullshit and always on display being some "amazing innovation" by Apple when it is nothing and been done a million times before. They need to have a break from their mad circle jerk HQ.

  • ChipsChicky on 19/09/2022 - 14:45
    +15

    Nova Launcher

    • Bystander on 19/09/2022 - 20:18
      +3

      This!!!

    • MrBr0 on 19/09/2022 - 20:39
      +1

      I read about Nova being sold off the other day which put me off. I used to use it on android.

      Who is Branch?
      Branch is a big name in app development circles, but it’s mostly behind the scenes for consumers. Branch’s primary business is providing a platform for app developers to manage and measure deep-links into their apps. For example when you click on a link in an email or on social media that opens into an app, it’s probably a Branch link. Branch has a huge database of over 300 billion deep links into apps.

      https://novalauncher.com/branch

      • pilchard on 21/09/2022 - 16:47

        Thanks for pointing this out. The 'what will change' section on there is interesting!

    • us3rnam3tak3n on 20/09/2022 - 14:22

      Does iPhone not allow custom launchers?

      • CrispyChrispy on 20/09/2022 - 15:36

        Why would they? Best you can do is play around with it a bit after you've jailbroken it

      • Dsiee on 20/09/2022 - 21:08
        +2

        Nah, can't even arrange the icons how you want as it makes you bunch them all up top to bottom.

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 19/09/2022 - 14:48

    on the flipside the only thing thats stood out for me as an former android fanboy in the current android landscape is the fold series.

  • ForkSnorter on 19/09/2022 - 14:48
    +2

    However, the one thing which I appreciate too much to give up is how easy it is to connect my phone to any Windows PC and transfer files to and from it.
    I don't have to f around with iTunes or any other third party program. Just plug in and do what I need to do.

    If you have a Mac computer or laptop, you can just airdrop photos and files. This is far easier than plugging your phone into your PC. And plugging your phone directly into your PC doesn't work for all Android phones.

    Also, if the photos/files are on my iPad, I don't even need to touch the iPad. I can drag the mouse cursor to the edge of my Mac computer screen, then through the air to my iPad screen to control my iPad with the computer mouse, then drag the file/photo I want to the edge of the iPad screen and through the air to my Mac.

    If I want to transfer files from my iPhone to my Windows PC, I just use Google Drive. It's nearly instant, and far easier than plugging the phone into the PC.

    Even if I connect the iPhone to a Mac, sometimes the Photos app just doesn't want to do it. I've had it show some photos but not all with no apparent explanation as to what's happening.

    Never had a problem with this. Plus, I rarely need to to this, because airdrop is very fast and much easier, plus it doesn't require you to open an app.

    • andresampras on 19/09/2022 - 14:59

      yeah for smaller files or photos, I use whatsapp…very quick transfer. For bigger files I use google drive or icloud or dropbox.

    • Nebargains on 20/09/2022 - 10:09
      +3

      If you have a Mac computer or laptop, you can just airdrop photos and files. This is far easier than plugging your phone into your PC. And plugging your phone directly into your PC doesn't work for all Android phones.

      I have never had that with an android phone, every android phone I have had has just seamlessly just worked by plugging into my PC.

      Aside from price, my biggest issue is that you essentially get locked into their ecosystem, you mention airdrop - well that is great if you have a Macbook or iMac. I feel like Apple make a lot of products that all work well together, but if you just want one or two of those products then I think some of the value is lost.

      • CrispyChrispy on 20/09/2022 - 10:14
        +4

        I have never had that with an android phone, every android phone I have had has just seamlessly just worked by plugging into my PC.

        +1, even my old crappy Lenovo Vibe Z2 from 2014 pairs and connects fine to my PC via USB.

    • esosite on 22/09/2022 - 11:26

      The real value with iPhones/apple is when you buy into all the devices (yes i know, OzBargain sin to spend money). But everything interlinks very well and it just works seamlessly.

      I don’t need to ever plug my phone into my Mac, as the photos are already synced and they’re by the time i need them. I don’t have a second screen for my laptop, as i just use my iPad as a sidecar. All the little things keep you sucked in, and yes android has alternatives but everything is so simple and seamless even my mother knows how to airdrop and do the various things that are simple with iPhone.

      Doubtful many will be convinced to swap over, but you do get what you pay for, and thats good build quality, long term software support and clever interlinking devices that are seamless/‘just work’. Not everyone buys a new one every year, so that $2000 can be amortimised over 4 years to $500/year, for something i use every single day for far too many hours thats fine by me.

  • alterego13 on 19/09/2022 - 14:55
    +1

    Basically the same reason as yours. I have an iPad just to use a photo gallery when meeting clients…and it drives me nuts trying to copy photos to it from my PC. It was a free device and that is its only use so not really bothered…but maaan is it frustrating! If ever the iphone/iOS lets me just copy/paste to/from the device to my PC, I'll be switching to iphone that very day!

    • andresampras on 19/09/2022 - 15:08
      +3

      get your credit card ready:

      https://osxdaily.com/2021/02/24/how-access-windows-shared-fo…

      • alterego13 on 20/09/2022 - 11:28

        not so soon!
        Still a lot of faffing around!!
        Just a simple…connect cable, open device folder, ctrl+c, open destination folder, ctrl+v and I'm done.
        I don't want to create special 'shared folder' and 'add server' on my phone to move files around!

        Having said that, thank you for the link. I will definitely be trying it when using the iPad.

        • andresampras on 20/09/2022 - 11:46
          +1

          Just a simple…connect cable, open device folder, ctrl+c, open destination folder, ctrl+v

          Can you not do this? That's how I used to do it, although it was a bit fiddly at times from memory, with all the 'allow this PC' blah blah.

          Having said that, I've experienced fiddly android-pc connections in the past too

          • [Deactivated] on 20/09/2022 - 13:09

            @andresampras: If we're talking Windows Explorer, and not iTunes, then when I last used iOS 2-3 years ago, USB transfers were not bi-directional. It was only possible to transfer photos iOS —> PC, not the other way around. Maybe it's different these days though.

    • bazingaa on 19/09/2022 - 16:45
      +4

      i have an ipad for personal use, still drives me crazy with folder structure

  • Benoffie on 19/09/2022 - 14:55
    +1

    Move from a full Apple house to full MS/Android years ago. Price and functionality were both big issues.
    I made the move personally from an iPhone 5 to an S10. Phone size is also a factor.

  • mbck on 19/09/2022 - 14:57

    I respect the build quality.

    It's just….well built. And they keep their value so well. (A lot better than android anws).

    But i cant go back to a non fold phone. The ability to multitask, for me personally, is difficult to give up.
    Also:
    -Taking pictures with the fold propped up,
    -the s pen to write notes,
    -taking good pictures with the main camera (while using the front screen as a viewfinder),
    -writing documents while on flex mode (like a mini laptop)
    -the obvious larger screen for consuming contents (or creating)

    General android in addition to op:
    -transfering files with my usb c disk. (Bypassing a computer)
    -samsung internet with ad block built in (while still having fingerprint for password). Not a fan of chrome coz of ads.
    -youtube to mp3
    -videos too i suppose, you can play these straightaway.

    • apiecost on 19/09/2022 - 15:01
      +2

      iOS can save to a USB drive directly too, although due to the unfortunate lightning connector you need a lighting->USB-C adapter. But yes, not 100% as convenient. You can use Brave browser if you generally like Chrome but want more privacy and less ads.

      • mbck on 19/09/2022 - 15:06

        That's great to hear. I'd like to see how it works (transferring files between computer/phones/via usb). Also the main ides with transferring files is to watch your own movies/remove your big videos to elsewhere.

        Brave wouldnt be able to use the apple protected passwords, neither do they allow samsung aswell. You'd have to save your passwords into brave, which I don't really want to do.

        • apiecost on 19/09/2022 - 15:08
          +1

          My kids like to watch movies on their iPhones, and I found it easiest to install VLC and upload videos via it's built in features. I handbraked them down to make them smaller and more optimised. Now with a Plex server though, thery can just sync content using the Plex app so it's not really needed.

          • mbck on 19/09/2022 - 15:16
            +1

            @apiecost: Don't have flex or nas.

            And that's partly why Im not going down the apple route just yet.

            For the price I'm paying, I'm required to set more things up. While android works with how things are at the moment (for me).

            And that's just file transferring.

            I've other use case that an iphone will never satisfy.

            Not saying they're bad btw. Just saying they're not for me.

            Also forgot to mention, the cs for apple is 100% at the top. Compared to others, it's night and day i believe.

    • Caped Baldy on 19/09/2022 - 15:08

      -samsung internet with ad block built in (while still having fingerprint for password). Not a fan of chrome coz of ads.

      Firefox with ublock for the win.

      I think iOS peeps can use adguard. There is another option but that's escaping me

  • apiecost on 19/09/2022 - 14:57
    +8

    In the "Files" app on iOS you can add a server… which is just a Windows PC with a file share. On my Windows desktop I just share a folder called "Public" and send files to it easily. If I want to copy a bunch of photos I just select them in the photos app, hit share and choose the "copy photos" option… then to to files app and paste them into my shared folder.

    • andresampras on 19/09/2022 - 15:00

      Didn't know about this method, thanks for heads up!

      • apiecost on 19/09/2022 - 15:03
        +2

        You can also save straight from photo app to the files app, but at some point recently it defaulted to saving as HEVC. I do the copy/paste so that I get JPG files which is the format I need.

        • Roshisennin on 20/09/2022 - 14:34

          Does this method retain the metadata such as date and location?

    • jaffar on 19/09/2022 - 15:17

      Brilliant tip

    • andresampras on 20/09/2022 - 13:31

      Just set it up, it's brilliant…and instant, at least for smaller files….tested with a 5MB pdf

      Thanks again!

      instructions for anyone else interested:
      https://osxdaily.com/2021/02/24/how-access-windows-shared-fo…

      • xsacha on 21/09/2022 - 01:54

        If anyone cares, the same method also works on Android, Symbian, blackberry etc for past decade. Most people prefer direct Bluetooth/wifi/USB instead though. Especially when it is a new computer.

  • Ghost47 on 19/09/2022 - 15:07

    iPhones cameras fantastic.

    The quality might be getting better for the cameras but I don’t like the way Apple has gone in terms of saturation.

    I think iPhone cameras take photos that are a lot more saturated these days compared to my iPhone 8, maybe not as bad as some Android phones (I recall Samsung phones tend to take more saturated photos).

    • Caped Baldy on 19/09/2022 - 15:12
      +2

      Day photos are pretty much the same across high end Android and iphones. iPhone are still king of video though.

      I'm really not a fan of the segmentation of "pro" and "non pro" cameras on the iphone range. It wouldn't cost much more to include the extra cameras but there's the temptation for people to spend more money.

    • andresampras on 19/09/2022 - 15:20
      +2

      Samsung phones also do this weird thing with smoothing our skin, making it look like people have on a thick layer of foundation.

      At least the Note 10+ does this, not sure about newer Samsungs

      • Ghost47 on 19/09/2022 - 15:36
        +3

        Yeah I’ve never been a fan of those beautify modes (predominantly on Android phones or certain apps).

        I don’t think iOS has ever done that, although my phone is 4 years old now so not sure if something like that has been introduced.

        I just prefer all my images to be as close to real life as possible.

      • goraygo on 21/09/2022 - 17:18

        Yup. The Samsung won’t even let you turn the beautify mode off. You set it off and it still does it. Annoying as.

        • ihfree on 21/09/2022 - 18:02

          Are you a current user?
          I don't think this is true anymore at least with an up to date OS. I turned off smoothness, closed the app, and restated the phone. It remained off.

    • caitsith01 on 20/09/2022 - 16:15

      Yep, current Pixel phones arguably have better cameras than current Apple phones in most respects, including not having ridiculous saturation levels:

      https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/iphone-13-pro-vs-pixel-6-pr…

      I have a Pixel and the AI in the camera software is amazing, too.

  • monky on 19/09/2022 - 15:16
    +1

    I have a budget 2020 SE I got at a slight discount and after doing a cost/performance comparison with new mid-range phones out at the time. Eventually went Apple for the app ecosystem but have since walked that opinion back as I realise app stores are mostly the same on either sides of the fence.

    The SE is remarkably easy to repair due to using the same parts as the iPhone 7, and I did a battery replacement myself a couple months back without issue: But I have a fundamental disdain with all anti-consumer/anti-repair practices for their flagship devices; which is why I will likely never buy one outside of the SE/budget range, and likely switch back to Android in the future, unless Apple changes their core values.

    • stephendt on 21/09/2022 - 01:10
      +1

      I'm a bit shocked you had to replace the battery already. I got nearly 4 years out of the 4000mah battery on my Poco F1.

  • spackbace on 19/09/2022 - 15:25
    +11

    Is anyone else like me that they don't care about the 'design'? How are any of the newer phones any different to each other, besides different camera 'notches' (or keyholes, or whatever), and the number of camera lenses on the back and how far out they protrude.

    Most phones look the same as other phones, which look the same as the model generation before it (with the exception of folding phones).

    stops yelling at cloud

  • helpme on 19/09/2022 - 15:29
    +10

    USB C, YouTube Vanced, Price

  • ItchyBallsack on 19/09/2022 - 15:31
    +5

    USB C, finger print sensor and price.

  • ItchyBallsack on 19/09/2022 - 15:32

    I have the iPhone Se 3 as my work phone, but I use Samsung s22 ultra as my main

  • GG57 on 19/09/2022 - 15:35
    +2

    Have used iphones previously, as well as many different other mobile phone solutions. Also have an iPad and Apple TV.
    I'm currently on an Android phone (again) and am weaning myself off Apple products all together. I just don't get the hype and their products don't really do anything more or better for me than alternates can do cheaper.
    But that's just me.

  • Halsmich on 19/09/2022 - 15:36
    +2

    Emulators

  • toomuchdogfur on 19/09/2022 - 15:51
    +11

    I actually daily drove an iPhone 11 Pro for a good few months after a life of Android phones. Ended up going back to Android - not for any dealbreaker problem, but because I didn't want to do everything the Apple way. And on an iPhone, if you don't do things the Apple way, you either:

    • Just plain can't do things another way, or
    • Tolerate a buggier, partially baked experience

    Examples from my experience:

    • When using Google Maps on Carplay, neither Siri nor Google Assistant want to help you with anything
    • Inbuilt apps always trying to launch Apple Maps instead of Google Maps
    • YouTube Music missing features on CarPlay that Spotify/Apple Music have (though this may be Google's fault)
    • Alternative keyboards (SwiftKey or GBoard) glitching out every once in a while - I want to at least customise the size of my keyboard…
    • You can't recategorize apps! At all! I had a whole raft of apps grouped under categories I did not find useful.
    • You can't leave gaps on your homescreens without using a hacky "clear widget" workaround
    • Siri is much worse at answering questions than Google Assistant

    If you commit to using Apple everything, I'm sure you would be fine. But coming from Android, even stock/unrooted, I found many little niggles that I could have easily solved in Android that I just had to put up with in iOS.

    • TheRealCJ on 23/09/2022 - 11:53

      One thing I noticed with ios/pados that really annoyed me was the lack of customisable keyboards. I like using SwiftKey with a skin that puts all the symbols directly on the keys as a long press, but I also like to see what those symbols are, like a traditional printed keyboard.

      I discovered that the iOS version of SwiftKey doesn't do that, so you still have to press the symbol sub menu then slide or tap the symbol you want. It adds several seconds to everything I type. I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of apples "rules" that the third party keyboards have to treat symbols the same way the default keyboard does.

  • Tobias on 19/09/2022 - 15:54
    +2

    Very difficult to navigate iphone/ipad and itunes, they're not intuitive.
    Can't expand storage with micro sd card.
    No headphone jack.
    Price.

    • O15 on 19/09/2022 - 16:01
      +4

      When I bought a Pixel 2 at release, I did not realise how much I was going to miss the headphone jack.
      Despite owning both bluetooth earbuds and headphones, my current phone having a headphone jack was a significant selling point.

  • mshanann on 19/09/2022 - 15:56

    : On the flip side, when someone brings their iPhone and asks for help getting photos or a video off of it, my day is instantly ruined.
    Plug it into a Windows PC and you have to figure out the arbitrary folder structure to find photos. Oh and you're sure as hell not going to copy files to the iPhone this way.
    Even if I connect the iPhone to a Mac, sometimes the Photos app just doesn't want to do it. I've had it show some photos but not all with no apparent explanation as to what's happening.

    I got a free app some time back called Transfer Pro. It allows you to connect to the iphone from a browser on the same LAN as your Wifi connection. You can then do bulk photo/video download (or upload). It shows thumbnails. It can delete photos/videos too. There is also a proper desktop app - though I just use the http endpoint from Chrome.

    Leveraging this, I don't have to upload my photos/videos to the iCloud.

  • darkdinkum on 19/09/2022 - 16:01
    +1

    I am nearly ready to buy my first iPhone.
    Just waiting for the USB C.
    Hopefully iPhone 15 with that upcoming Euro USB C rule etc. I am staying hopeful.
    Will continue with my Samsung Note 9 for now.

    • Twix on 19/09/2022 - 17:37

      USB-C EU rule doesn't come into affect until 2024.

      • Gareth on 20/09/2022 - 12:38

        So you think when the iPhone 15 comes out in Sept 2023 (aka 3 months before it comes into force), there won't be USB-C?

        • Twix on 20/09/2022 - 12:43

          Apple can still go with Lightning in 2023. We'll see what happens.

  • WreckTangle on 19/09/2022 - 16:06
    +4

    I like buggy unstable operating systems

    • TheRealCJ on 23/09/2022 - 11:54
      +1

      2008 called and they want their fanboy talking point back.

  • ozhunter on 19/09/2022 - 16:37
    +2

    The transferring files to pc was an annoyance I had to experience yesterday. Ended up using Resilio Sync.

  • Ueki23 on 19/09/2022 - 16:39
    +2

    Android more customisable in terms of themes (using NOVA Launcher atm) and stuff. Also don't have to faff around to try and set my ringtone to whatever I want. Also also, modded APKs for games good 👍 I am simple man.

  • bazingaa on 19/09/2022 - 16:45
    +5

    Freedom

  • Switchblade88 on 19/09/2022 - 17:09
    +3

    Nobody has mentioned root access on Android??

    Full access has easily doubled the life of my old devices since I can upgrade to new ROMs, install unapproved apps like ad blockers, and generally do what I want with the hardware I own.

    It's less relevant now than in the Nexus days, sure, but I still have more uses for old Android tech than I do the odd iPhone that won't install any apps because it's too old.

    • Quantumcat on 19/09/2022 - 21:50

      You can jailbreak iPhones too

      • Switchblade88 on 19/09/2022 - 22:44
        +5

        But only if there's an available exploit to do so. That's not a guarantee. Nexus phones were specifically permitted to unlock the bootloader, root etc and had instructions on how to do so.

        The other problem with jailbreaking is the LOSS of functionality. I don't lose Google Play access when rooting, which can't be said of the Apple Store…

    • AwesomeAndrew on 21/09/2022 - 12:14

      That's not an advantage, as some phone manufacturers will permanently disable features on your phone once you root (samsung knox) and Google encourages apps to stop working if you root (safetynet)

      • Switchblade88 on 21/09/2022 - 12:45
        +2

        some phone manufacturers will permanently disable features on your phone

        Including Apple, as per my post above. This is not an Android disadvantage as you stated.

        My point is that I have been given the choice to do with the hardware and software as I see fit, and not as dictated by Apple's walled garden policies.

      • TheRealCJ on 23/09/2022 - 11:55

        You mean the same way Apple will destroy your phone's functionality if you don't pay them the exorbitant prices to replace parts?

  • bong on 19/09/2022 - 17:17
    +2

    Tachiyomi

  • shaybisc on 19/09/2022 - 18:01
    +3

    The opportunity cost of buying a $1300 phone. I can buy things that are way more useful or interesting to me for that amount of money.

  • Uncle Roger on 19/09/2022 - 18:02

    USB PLEAAAASE HAIYAAA

    • Ghost47 on 19/09/2022 - 22:19

      Does the lack of USB-C make you want to put your leg down?

  • ECE on 19/09/2022 - 18:02
    +2

    IPrice 😷🤣

  • Herbse on 19/09/2022 - 18:37
    +6

    A few reasons for me

    • I and everyone else in the world is already using Gmail, chrome, google maps, google photos. Everything syncs easily. I think it's works better now on iOS but back in the day there had to be workarounds.

    • Google password manager which syncs my passwords on all the sites and phone apps. Makes using their suggested passwords easy which is good now that all the sites being hacked and passwords being stolen. Unique passwords are a must now. And syncing them with chrome desktop means I don't need to remember any of them now.

    • Unlimited google photos storage. This is a big one. I like having all my photos accessible and being able to search for specific photos in any way using the app.

    • The app NZB360 is the biggest one. This app I use heavily for downloading my movies and tv shows. It is one of the best apps and constantly updated by the developer and I rely on it multiple times a day.
      There's iOS ways around it or use the nzb web pages but that just makes me shudder when I see the limitations my iOS friends have.

    • Being able to access my computer files without needing a server running and specifically being able to stream videos, not download and watch but stream directly. It's a very specific use case but I need this and iPhones can't do it.

    • Say what you want but google assistant is much superiority to Siri, in compatibilities with other devices, answering questions and organising my day.

    • Always on screen. iOS can do this with their OLED screens but choose not to because it would reduce battery life and can't boast their big numbers in their promotions.

    • The new Now Playing function on google phones is something I didn't think I needed but as a music fan I love it. I can just look at my phone to see what song is being played nearby.
      I can go out to a party or function, it will save a list of all the songs or recognises and I can add them in bulk to a list for future use. Amazing.

    If I was forced to, I could live without everything above except the nzb360 app. This is actually the biggest reason I couldn't move away.

    • Twix on 19/09/2022 - 20:49
      +1

      Always on screen. iOS can do this with their OLED screens but choose not to because it would reduce battery life and can't boast their big numbers in their promotions.

      iPhone 14 Pro and 14 Pro Max have an always on display by default.

      • Gareth on 20/09/2022 - 12:41
        +3

        … which can only be turned on/off. There is no configuration of what is shown, or how it is displayed.

        I'm sure they'll add a revolutionary and courageous feature in iOS 17 (or maybe 18) to allow people to configure it a bit.

      • caitsith01 on 20/09/2022 - 16:17
        +1

        It's pretty funny that they tout this as some revolutionary new feature. I had this on my phone 4 years ago with more options than Apple are going to offer for it.

      • TheRealCJ on 23/09/2022 - 11:56

        So just buy the most expensive non-folding phone on the market, cool.

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