It has begun. The destruction of the jacket man. The end of red and green colours. With the introduction of the blue colour we can finally see GPU full colour! Choose your fighter, jacket man, GPU/CPU always in second place lady or “wow this guy is a bad driver” man.
$649 is $50 cheaper than other retailers right now. here for $699
AV1 encoding apparently on par with 4090. But graphics worse than 6600XT.
Fight it out in the comments for which colour you choose.
Yeah, if you get this you either love trying new things out. Or really want to try AV1 encoding. Hope Intel succeeds. full RGB or competitors is great.
AV1 encoding looks far more superior to nvenc on paper. I'll wait a few more months before I consider making the move myself though. As a content creator wrapped in my nvenc security blanket, I'm still not seeing much come out about it.
Once Twitch supports it. Then it will be full on mainstream. Which will be soon. Think Twitch was just waiting for hardware support.
I think AV1 looks so incredible because it's effectively skipping a whole generation of video codecs.
VP9 should have been the next step after h.264 since h.265 was being a dick with the royalties or something, but hardware encoders for VP9 never materialized so there was no way for a user to encode in that format in real time without maybe running a dedicated threadripper capture PC or something.
Meanwhile the roughly equivalent h.265 has hardware encoders in everything, i think the GTX 980 could do it. The 10 series definitely can. But content distributors never let us use it.
AV1 is the next gen format from the developers of VP9 so it has more in common with the upcoming h.266/VVC standard than the h.264 we're familiar with (allegedly at least. They claim AV1 is 30% better than h.265, but i've heard it isn't really)
I wont be buying A770 or A750 just only to get A1 encoding support. A380 or A350 will be plenty for A1 encoding support.
Maybe get the A750 instead?
Didn't Intel already cancel the dedicated ARC project? They will be focusing on low end and embedded ARC from now on.
Also, desktop drivers are still a mess since they used the mobile/laptop on CPU drivers
Huh? The deal is about the desktop A770 GPU
Plans are not cancelled, next gen "Battlemage" GPUs are confirmed in development
No, they didn’t do that at all. That was speculation which has been refuted strongly
And then when it's 599 you can say let me know when it's 549 and so on 🤣
Happy the pay the converted us price + GST, not a cent more.
The store owners will start whining they can't make a profit, oblivious that we are in a recession.
Hold to after the AMD Rdma3 launch to avoid the early adopter milking tax.
@Forth: Considering how many stores decided to scalp the 3000 series graphics cards in the last 2 years, I could honestly give 0 (profanity) for them.
Except PLE Computers. I believe they actually stuck with official prices provided by AIB partners.
Love intel entering the market and shaking up nvidia/AMD, but this is not a deal,
Even at $599 it is too much,
Comparable performance can be found much much cheaper:
RTX 3060 ~$499
RX 6600 ~$325
Agree 100%
on further thinking about it,
this is where I think the pricing should be if they are serious,
A750 8gb $349
A770 16bg $449
@Rod M: Technically the cards expensive to manufacture. They would take a hit at those ideal prices. But 699 is ballz.
@John Doh: yea understand the supply chain issues,
If they want market share then they need to have a loss leader for the first generation or two.
Intel has the resources to make this happen, they are not a charity.
Seems to beat 3060 a decent amount of the time but you certainly have to check for the games you play.
yea it does,
but who (apart from enthusiasts) will fork out $150 more for a A770 over a RTX3060? and over $300 more over a RX6600?
too risky with the drivers they way they are,
it beats it in some areas yes, but its too inconsistent
Absolutely. This is more expensive then cheap 6700xt models - which outperform it by quite a bit - and absolutely flogged price wise by the 6600xt which it performs equivalently to.
Unfortunately looks like Intel has taken the Nvidia route rather then the AMD route with AU GPU pricing. This is $125 more then it should be based off direct conversion (accounting for GST, about $70 extra). US MSRP is $329.
You're ignoring the Intel quality though. I've never had an Intel CPU fail or give me any problems. I've given up even considering the CPU as a potential fault when I habe issues with a PC. When I had AMD I had endless problems. You can't compare a cheapo AMD card to Intel and expect similar pricing. It's like comparing a Mercedes to a Hyundai
CPU is lowest failure rate component, it's not being intel that makes them reliable, failure rates for AMD CPUs are also extremely low. I have seen plenty of Intel SSDs fail, no reason to think their GPUs would be more reliable than their competition
@hugamuga: When I had AMD CPUs I had all sorts of troubles. My one AMD graphics card also died. They're just not at the same level as Intel. At work we don't even consider AMD for servers or laptops. Vendors don't even bother presenting AMD as an option
@MikeKulls: Intel are absolutely not the bastions of reliability that you think.
I've been through expensive Intel dual-port NICs that had broken Teaming in the Windows drivers for months, Meltdown and Spectre fixes that decimated performance, Intel VPro security disasters, and Dell 9020 desktops with Intel NICs that would flood their LAN segment with broadcast multicast traffic only whilst they were sleeping bringing down Switches with the load.
They also have crap support lifetimes for various products like the expensive Intel Realsense cameras that they just stopped making drivers for, and they do consumer-hostile things like make a whole bunch of storage controllers with the same name that are all supported by different driver versions on different versions of Windows - good luck finding the right driver package for Intel RST controllers from a few generations ago.
Visually looks a lot nicer than the other cars out there seeing as nvidia won't supply us founder edition cards
I might consider Intel for their next generation cards.
If there is one..
There will be another one.
Rumour was debunked, they are in for the long haul.
Enterprise alone are worth the effort pursuing, we're lucky they're bothering to do gaming cards at all.
Was it? The rumour, as I heard it, was Intel axing future "high end" gaming dGPUs.
Official statements on the topic are either vague or don't directly address that.
Enterprise will more likely stay (where they don't have to deal with a massive back-catalog of weirdly coded games, old APIs etc in their drivers), but we'll have to see with consumer.
Then again, Intel have been struggling to get their enterprise products out on time (e.g. Sapphire Rapids, Ponte Vecchio etc), and they just axed Optane, which has all sorts of uses in enterprise. Whilst I think Intel will ultimately pull through with dGPUs regardless, the likelihood of them canning their enterprise product is certainly much higher than Nvidia/AMD doing the same.
Call me when their drivers can handle DX9 and DX11 games.
What's your number?
Since he cares about DX9 performance I'd say its 2006
can i call you mack daddy?
It was taken so yes please
mick daddy
Maybe this'll end up having the Finewine (TM) treatment with driver updates over time. I'll take a punt.
Something something, battlemage.
Ahh the paper launch of Intel dgpu is here on hand. Finally. Should be $449.99 if graphic is worser than 6600XT
worser
Man I love that sauce
worsershure sauce
worsersher serse
Doesn't seem to be worse than 6600 or 3060 but varys a lot by title. Check the games you play before buying. I imagine it will get better with time and new games should be at 3060ti or greater performance.
But are they the worsest?
yeah. At the moment Intel is the weakest out of the three consumer graphic vendor.
Once Unraid gets the kernel support, I'm all in AV1
Can you explain the use case please? Is this for running a video server with av1 encoded library or something?
Might also be useful for people who have large libraries that they wanna re-encode to save space. Or to send out AV1 streams to supported clients.
LOL, this is not the price intel should be releasing at. Good luck with all the people buying these. That 3070Ti for 560bux off ebay will murder these.
I wanted to buy one of these, but Intel had the BALLZ to price it at 699 - which is more than what even Jacket man would have thought twice pricing these considering how bad the drivers are, so I would not buy this ever.
You might have more luck selling this in the future as limited edition Intel cardz for moar GAINZ!!!
Link to brand new 16GB 3070Ti for $560 please?
You are worried about longetivity? There are high chances that mined card will last longer than Intel driver support at this point.
Don't care about games
Yeah that's the main reason I personally wouldn't buy one. They can fix the drivers, they can probably improve game performance with better drivers? But unless anyone can tell me where Intel says they are going to support the cards for 5 years+ I'm not going to even consider them.
They were ex mining cards off ebay
Check on eBay… Lots around
Sold out - 80 cards in 3 days. There were 6800 for 469 which got sold out in no time(but quality not great). Keep checking ebay. More come in everyday.
I got one of the 6800s, still seems to be more available
@Torzz: Oh They keep adding i guess, morning it showed only 1 available. - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/255785154612
@Torzz: Not to dissapoint you, but be a bit careful about the card. Rusted and oxidesed that bad means even the components like capacitors etc might have taken a hit.
@Torzz: Try and do it after the 3 months warranty - stress test it till then. They may not accept it back if opened and cleaned.
No clue where they're pulling 3070tis for that cheap, but if you'd like a new, better value product, the 5700xt can be had for equal or lower pricing. Below link is for a Sapphire pulse 6700xt for $650 for example. Outperforms the a770 by 25% at 1440p according to Techpowerup.
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-67…
but but, can it run Crysis?
unpossible
What Nvidia card is this equivalent to in terms of performance?
3060
dependent on the game, terrible at DX9/11
GTX 1080ti
Depends on the game, 3060-3060ti for most, greater and less for others.
Very overpriced when it’s equitable to a 2060
Is this a joke? Can someone enlighten me please?
Is what a joke?
Glad i got the 4090.
Intel is a meme
I hear you. I got two 4090's even though I only have 1 computer
One for the PC and one for your leather jacket?
One to hold his wads of cash from blowing in the breeze on the yacht.
@Switchblade88: i see now that the 4090 can act as a thick wallet, the problem is not getting the money to buy it but where would i put it? Imagine a person puts it in his pants, that is one misleading buldge
Are you going to tell us about your 4090 on every GPU post?
Yeah…you mad?
It's marginally better then the HODL comments.
@Daniel-Tillet: Sure. I don't think you have much to add based on your post history.
Daniel-Tillet is a meme.
Hot take (or maybe not) - Intel is going through AMD went through years ago, I dont think its fair for yall to bash them so much for a new venture into the discrete gpu market. If you are willing to give them time just as AMD got they would redeem themselves soon enough. The physical hardware is there, its just the shitty drivers thats the issue. Of course this isnt to say 'buy it now it will get better later' but give them sometime and Im sure the a770 will be a competitive card the later down its product life just like how rx580 cards have been.
I think even Intel thought their cards would perform better. The hardware is good. The experienced team is good. It’s just drivers now. Maybe 1-2 years we’ll have the full RGB!
I’m sure Intel will fix it. Or at least. Hope they don’t kill the project entirely.
just saw your post hit while I was writing mine, based on history of behaviour with intel, yeah the hardware can be "ok" but the drivers being an issue, intel are quite well known for poor driver support.
A lot of their mobile platform graphics are known for getting one set of drivers and maybe one update and then they are dead to intel.
I can see them maybe putting abit more into these to launch them, but intel's past track record is get the item out the door, fix anything that will get us sued or a recall and then buy the next one and forget about this one kind of mentality.
Everyone’s rooting for Intel. But doesn’t quite trust Intel, yet. Only time will tell!
To be fair that's like all the support you need for an integrated GPU. Running stable in basic usage is all you need them for, squeezing out an extra few % performance gain is kinda meaningless when it's running light workloads is a waste of time.
Who is bashing intel? Everyone is excited to see them come in and give the GPU market the fair shake it deserves
Let me know when it's $599. Which is the price it should be. I'll be keen to try one for shizz and gigz