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AMD Ryzen 7 7700X CPU $599 + Delivery ($0 to Metro Areas/ VIC C&C/ in-Store) + Surcharge @ Centre Com
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Intredasting…didn't realise AMD did that….
They messed up the naming scheme. Nothing more to it than that.
@Vita85: The Ryzen 4000 series was also in a similar situation mainly mobile CPUs but released some desktop CPUs mainly to OEMs. Doing some reading looks like the 6000 series is classed as Zen 3+. So with that in mind, the 7000 series makes sense as it's Zen 4.
Rembrandt is just a zen3 refresh with TSMC 6nm and rdna2 igpu so you arent missing anything. Battery life improvement doesnt mean anything for desktops and while they scale better than intel mobile sub 40w-the desktop apus have 65w tdp so….
This will be the prevailing price going forward IMO, at the $690-ish pricepoint, it was just not competitive with the 13700K/KF at $769/$729.
AMD's pricing this generation at launch made no sense. I thought at the time that the only chip which was good value was (funnily enough) the 7950X. Not surprising since it got a price cut compared to the 5950X. The 7700X and 7900X never made any sense. Now with Intel's 13th gen launch, they make even less sense given the 13700K is better value than both.
I've heard of the 13600k beating it in areas, for less, with DDR4 options.
The 7000 series will need to drop in price.
It's crazy how Intel is now the budget option. Competition rules!
Budget and best for gaming, AMD have screwed themselves by not releasing the x3d CPU's from the start.
@Axelstrife: Arrogance kicked in, didn't take long. No different to how Intel was for years without competition.
@Axelstrife: Why does everyone assume this was a choice? The 7000 series is 5nm, 3D cache will require further engineering by TSMC and comes at a performance cost - notice the 7000 series are all pushing well over 5ghz clockspeeds, would 3D cache still be worth it of you have to drop 500mhz?
It's a niche product for gaming, not something you can just slap onto every CPU
Why does everyone assume this was a choice?
Cause AMD decides when to release there products so they decides to releases it when they did without 3d cache.
@Axelstrife: Of course, AMD has the 7700x3D ready to go, but they choose not to produce it because this will somehow make them more money.
@greatlamp: Ok troll, maybe read my comment being making a stupid sarcastic comment when i never said they did have 3d cache ready nor do you know they don't (that is YOUR assumption) i said AMD chose to release zen 4 without 3d cache.
Yep, competition is awesome. Wouldn't say that Intel is the budget option though, they're competing across the entire stack.
@p1 ama: 13600k cheaper than 7700x
13700k cheaper than 7900x
13900k cheaper than 7950x
Intel has support for both DDR4 and DDR5 and supports the older Z690 motherboards and B660 Motherboards.
13600k beats/matches the 5800x3d while costing less.How exactly is Intel not the budget option between the two?
How exactly is Intel not the budget option between the two?
I interpreted "budget" to mean that Intel is only competing at the lower end of the stack. I would have used something along the lines of Intel being the "value" option.
But yep - completely agree with Intel being better value across the stack (as per my original post!)
Look at the benchmarks and Ryzen 7000 loses in the majority of categories save for the 7950x in specific tasks. Thought I was upgrading to Ryzen this year but Intel is cheaper and better performance for my workloads. Have to thank AMD for finally making Intel wake up and actually do something good ;)
It's best it goes back and forth. Great for us.
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Competition is amazing for us consumers. I too was thinking of going AMD as they have had the best price to performance, but now I'll be going Intel. 13th gen is now the best price to performance, can still run ddr4, use b660 or z690 motherboards. If AMD wants to compete again, they need to drop prices of cpu and motherboards.
Also I dont want to hear anyone say that 13th gen motherboard platform is dead. Most people don't even upgrade for multiple years so don't wanna hear it.
Also I dont want to hear anyone say that 13th gen motherboard platform is dead. Most people don't even upgrade for multiple years so don't wanna hear it.
Completely agree - this was true back when you could get great B450 boards for super cheap - a $150 B450 board to pair with a Ryzen 5 2600, then upgrading to a 5600X a few years later made sense.
These days, X690 boards are > $500. Given you can get a decent Z690 board for $300, you might as well pocket the $200 and use that to buy a new motherboard when time comes to upgrade. Even B650 boards are > $350, just crazy prices.
Yeh exactly, the pricing of the b650 motherboards are crazy, and they're meant to be the budget options. 13th gen will be the way to go with z690 and ddr4. If you wanted later on when prices of ddr5 decrease, you could get a z690 ddr5 or z790 ddr5 (I think the memory controller is better for ddr5 on the z790) when those prices drop and throw in ddr5 as the prices should be fine by then.
7700X will be $499, and13700KF will drop to around $600 in few month time.
why?
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I doubt Intel will be changing their pricing at all, they are already beating AMD's offerings for price and performance.
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See what I told you, guys.
AMD AM5 Processor: Ryzen 5 7600X $389, Ryzen 7 7700X $499, Ryzen 9 7900X $749, Ryzen 9 7950X $999 Delivered @ PCByte
Intel Core i5-13600KF $461.91, i7-13700KF $657.71, i9-13900KF $924.71, Crucial BX500 1TB $79.21 + Del + SurCh @ Shopping Express
Needs to be cheaper than the 13600K to be worthwhile, and that's not even considering motherboard prices
13600k best price to performance right now. Intel finally woke up
12th Gen wasn't bad though. Saw this coming this generation.
13600k is absolutely the best atm. Though I'm sure the 13400 will be epic too.
Yeh that's true, I'm excited to see what Intel does with the lower end chips, they could be amazing for low budget builds
Motherboards are so expensive atm, 50% up than previous gen since Z690.
I'd say hold off on Zen 4 CPUs like this.
I'm expecting a huge price cut as the 13th gen CPUs from Intel have been extremely compelling and most likely AMD will respond with a price cut.
There really isn't a reason to go with zen4 over an equivalent 13th gen at this point. That is especially true in the mid range.
HODL.
This is the popular short term choice made just by looking at current benchmarks, but there are long term benefits to going with Zen 4 that most people overlook.
Zen 4 has Pcie 5.0 storage and Intel does not.
Zen 4 has AVX 512 instructions and Intel does not.
AM5 motherboards will be supported and useful for much longer than the Intel 700 series motherboards.
None of the above 3 factors are of any real benefit in benchmarks today but they will pay off in the future.
AM5 motherboards will be supported and useful for much longer than the Intel 700 series motherboards.
My first gen ryzen boards still don't support zen 3, so this isn't a sure thing despite their public intentions.
Yes that wasn't ideal but 'longer' is still a sure thing and perhaps 'much longer' is debatable.
These first gen AM5 motherboards are expensive as they are both new tech and heavily over engineered to still be useful for future gen CPUs. AMD are getting a lot of flack for the high pricing but they are clearly trying to ensure these motherboards remain viable for a long time.
Consumers generally seem to be saying they would prefer 'cheap prices now' over future proofing so perhaps this strategy will eventually be regarded as economic failure but time will tell.
@B3: Paying a low price now is just as future proofed. It means you can afford to upgrade when the time comes that you actually need any missing features or performance. Good thing is you'll actually be able to pick the platform you want to use when that time comes, which may be long after am5 is dead.
You buy into expensive am5 now and you're stuck with it, for better or worse. Too.bad if 8000/9000 CPUs don't tickle your pickle…
Need b650 options at that $200ish mark to make it compelling in the slightest
Wait, did we just skip the 6k series?