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Belkin BoostCharge Pro Dual USB-C GaN Wall Charger with PPS 65W - $58 + Delivery ($0 C&C/In-Store) @ Harvey Norman

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First post, so apologies if I've done anything wrong!

Based on comments in previous deals, seems like many people will be keen on this, so felt obligated!

This seems like an amazing deal on an excellent product:

  • Very compact
  • GaN
  • Dual USB-C Port
  • Max 65W (single port in use)
  • Max 45W + Max 20W (both ports in use)
  • PPS!

The HN price is great, but I was able to PM at JB and stack with $10 Perks to bring it down to $48!

Don't forget Westpac $10 cashback if eligible (would need to add something else to get total >$60): Westpac Rewards: $10 Cashback on $60 Spend @ JB Hi-Fi

Belkin official product page (images show UK version for some reason): https://www.belkin.com/au/dual-usb-c-gan-wall-charger-with-p…

Happy hunting!

This is part of Black Friday / Cyber Monday deals for 2022

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  • +4

    Got this the other day instead of one of the anker variants (715/735). Seems to be a good compromise size and port wise between the two and works well on my laptop without getting too hot, compared to the anker ones as reported in their reviews.

    Here's the very well hidden spec sheet for it - https://www.belkin.com/hk/en/support-article/?articleNum=333…

    • heat is fine if it works fine.

      • +2

        Heat in such a tight space means the capacitors will have a pretty miserable lifespan (especially since they are unrated no name caps - teardown link https://youtu.be/kPSmH77Osi0 ) . Sure it'll work for a year or so with frequent use, but then eventually it won't.

    • +1

      I also liked that this was dual port :)

      Thanks for the link to the spec sheet!

      • +1

        @bleckyL Whoops, just realised that the 735 is tri port! I assumed it was single like the 715.

        Your comment makes much more sense now :) Sorry!

    • I've worried about heat on GaN chargers ever since my baseus one overheated and died. Bought this one for the same reason and I'm very happy with it.

  • +4

    This looks like a nice safety pick between all the heymix duds and the 19 variants of anker and baseus.

  • +1

    Do I need to buy a special usb c cable to charge at 45w on a galaxy s22 ultra? Or will an anko kmart one do? Ir will any samsung cable do?

    • -1

      This one seems have no pps, and even with pps it must support faat super charging 2.0 or else only 25w for fast charging

      • This has pps …. but, also, i don't know what pps is or the answer to my question!

        • PPS, Programmable Power Supply, basically completely variable voltage and current, rather than the voltage steps previously. Supposed to be more efficient.

          Last I read, a 25W PPS charger should be all you really need, 45W barely makes a difference. Might have made an update since though.

      • +2

        PPS is literally in the title but go off.

  • +7

    The 108W Belkin GaN brick is also on sale for $69 from Amazon if anyone is after a more powerful charger (96W max output on a USB-C port). It's definitely less portable than this but I've found it to be worth the space as it's the only charger you need to bring along to a holiday.

    • Not if your primary computer is a 65w laptop or Samsung galaxy tab s8

      • Sorry, could you elaborate on the issue with 65W devices?

        It supports 65W at 20V / 3.25A ?

        https://www.belkin.com/au/support-article/?articleNum=318949…

        • I replied the guy saying that you need 108w .. I don't need that as I explained in my reply.

          • @matt-ozb: Ahh apologies, I thought you were making a point about it lacking PPS and 65W not being a supported fixed power output :) Sorry!

            • @yozza: All good .. this Belkin adapter is very nice .. just playing with it at home .. so much smaller than the Heymix

    • I also bought one of those for the extra ports and higher max W. However, just to note for others, the 108W one (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/739634) doesn't support PPS - unlike the one in this deal.

  • +1

    Thanks .. bought from JB with price match

  • Nice, that's a big improvement over the 68w model.

  • Weight?

    • +1

      107g .. just weighed for you buddy on some digital scales.

  • +5

    Weight = 107g
    Dimensions = 59mm x 39mm x 40mm .. excluding the AU prongs

    • Cheers - that's interesting: Anker 735 listed as 38.26 mm × 29.12 mm × 66.10 mm. I would have guessed just looking at them that the Belkin would be a lot more compact. It is shorter (vertical when plugging down into a powerboard), which is pretty obvious, but according to the measurements, it's thicker than the Anker.

      Cheers for measuring! (Couldnt find dimensions anywhere!)

      • seems like the 735 is about to 130-140g depending on the website or country .. good that the Belkin is lighter!

        and maybe it's time to move on from USB-A … i dropped micro-USB about 4 years and sold/disposed every product or cable with micro-USB .. maybe the time has come to dispose everything with USB-A .. hmmm

        • been thinking something similar… I guess the problem is there will be a long tail of legacy / things where usb-c doesn't provide any benefit to justify the cost. I think the main issue is proprietary adapters for things like Garmin watches, etc.

          I guess you could use a USB-C OTG adapter as a fall-back for those devices?

    • +1

      Just for completeness, the AU version of the Anker 735 is roughly 74mm x 38mm x 38mm at it's widest points (including where it flares out near the prongs), excluding the AU prongs themselves. The main body is much narrower though, at about 29mm (the main block of the charger, excluding the flared section at the prongs, is about 65mm x 29mm x 38mm, which must be where the official measurements are from - they are probably measuring the USA version, that doesnt have the flared section at the prongs).

      So yeah, quite a bit longer, but also much narrower for the most part. So compactness is much of a muchness, I'd say.

      Weighs 128g according to my scales, so the Anker is definitely heavier.

      • Thanks!

        Oh wow… a full 1.5cm longer…

        For me, the Belkin is compact "enough" in the other dimensions, and the length is more important as this can impact wall stability, etc.

  • +1

    Thanks, OP! Bought one from JB for $48 (PM + $10 Perk)

    • +1

      same, used their online chat to PM, got send a link of an order cart, added $10 perk, easy

  • I ordered one from HN online the other day then a day later they sent me a refund with no explanation (and it's still being advertised). Cross HN off the list of people I choose to do business with in future…

    • Yeah, I'm no fan of HN.

      Per my post, would suggest PM at JB and using Perks + Westpac cashback (if eligible)

  • Can anyone who bought one of these confirm whether this charger does 45W Super Fast Charge 2.0 on a compatible Samsung device?

    It definitely supports PPS, but just wondering if it does 45W PPS, or only 25W PPS like the Anker chargers (the Anker 715/735 etc support PPS, but capped at 25W).

      • Yeah, it definitely can do 45W…my question is whether it supports 45W PPS specifically with Samsung phones (which is unclear from the specs).

        Hence why I'm asking for specific user experience. :)

        • I don't have a Samsung, so can't confirm from user experience. However, from the specs it does seem clear that it supports 45W PPS.

          Indeed, based on the specs, it supports PPS all the way up to 63W.

          To elaborate: the specs say it supports PPS from 3.3V to 21.0V at 3A. So this means it supports PPS from 9.9W (3.3V * 3A) to 63W (21V * 3A).

          Hope this helps!

          • @yozza: I appreciate the attempt to help. But it's not as simple as that.

            For example the Anker 735 also supports 3V-20V at 3A (actually up to 20V at 3.25A), but it specifically does not support Samsung's implementation of 45W PPS (Super Fast Charging 2.0).

            It's not entirely clear to me what SFC 2.0 requires - but I believe (not certain) that it might actually require 4.5A. But I couldn't find a conclusive reference of the specific power requirements of SFC 2.0.

            So yeah - again, this is the reason why I am asking for specific user experience. Samsung phones are pretty popular, so I'm sure someone who has bought this has a Samsung phone! :)

            Edit: Just doing more research into it, and it seems that 45W SFC2.0 does indeed require 5A. (Couldn't find official info on it, but have found people referencing that a 5A cable is required for 45W SFC2.0).

            Edit2: OK, I am dumb - it is actually listed as a footnote on the listing for the official Samsung charger, than a 5A cable is required. My bad googling skills! :)

            • +1

              @caprimulgus: I don't think you're dumb! Seems to me that it's unrealistic to expect people to read a footnote on the listing for the official Samsung charger to know this! Almost as unrealistic as being "on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.'"

              More to the point though, "Super Fast Charging 2.0" seems very picky/finicky. Not only do you need PPS, but PPS at a specific current…

              The USB PD spec was supposed to do away with all these proprietary "quick charge 3.0" type fast charging implementations. I think Samsung should stick to the standards, or at the very least be more flexible in the specific currents it supports!

              Also, all the USB-C cables I've seen are rated by power (Watts), not current (Amps). For example Belkin USB-C to USB-C Cable 100W. So even if you somehow manage to get a charger that meets Samsung's specs exactly, you then need to clear another hurdle and somehow find a 5A cable!? Seems quite burdensome!

              • @yozza: 100% spot on! For a "universal" standard, USB-C certainly has a lot to answer for! (Or more accurately, I guess, the lack of standardisation across the implementation by each company)

                • @caprimulgus: huh… maybe I was unreasonably harsh on Samsung. I'm considering a Pixel 7 Pro and was curious about it's supported charging rates in the context of this charger.

                  The Tech Specs page simply says:

                  Fast charging capable7 – up to 50% charge in about 30 minutes7 – with Google 30W USB-C® Charger with USB-PD 3.0 (PPS) sold separately

                  The footnote isn't any more help:

                  7 Fast wired charging rates (up to 20 watts on Pixel 7 and up to 23 watts on Pixel 7 Pro) are based upon use of the Google 30 W USB-C® Charger plugged into a wall socket.

                  But then I remembered what you said about checking the power adapter specs. The Google 30 W USB-C power charger
                  page notes the following under "Tech Specs":

                  Output: PD 20V⎓1.5A, 15V⎓2A, 5V/9V⎓3A; PPS 21V⎓1.5A. 11V⎓3A

                  So while at least the specs are clearer (and specified in watts not amps), I think it's ridiculous that people have to check the specs of a power adapter that is sold separately and just assume this applies to the device! This info should be on the phone page itself…

                  I guess I'm glad that it supports PPS at a more standard 3A (and will thus work with this charger), but still, way too much hoop jumping to find out something as basic as "will this charger will work?" !

  • +1

    Well, my initial praise for this needs to be rescinded. I'm now onto my second unit as the first failed after a few days of using it to charge a laptop and the second unit has now also failed. I think this must have an inherent design flaw that causes this when used with 65W devices. Basically one port starts to fail, you can then swap it to the second port and over time that also starts to fail as well. These ports still work in lower modes for phones, but it's intermittent and the device keeps cycling through charging and disconnected.

    I'll be trying to get a full refund with this. What a damn nightmare for something that should just be simple.

    • oooh no :( How frustrating! I thought I'd finally found "one charger to rule them all" !

      I haven't used much with 65W devices yet, so was living in blissful ignorance… :S

      Thanks for the update though!

      Have you bothered to contact Belkin? I'd be curious about their response if you do.

      What will you be trying next?

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