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ASRock Radeon RX 7900 XT Graphics Card $1439.10 Delivered @ Computer Alliance eBay
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Kazusa on 28/12/2022 - 12:28 ebay.com.au (1255 clicks)
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Good price for next gen when compared to last gen, even if this isn't an XTX.
Sorry, you're gonna try compare second hand card price to a new one?
@John Doh: Well, your point makes itself. There is no comparison second vs new.
Let's try apples and apples then. Current price for 3090 new at over 2k in general. The overall FPS performance on the 7900 XT is better, and with a 'New' price of say $1999, that makes the 7900 XT in this deal 72% of so of the cost of the 3090. Seems like a good price to me.
If you want to spend extra on a 3090 new, for RT etc then sure. 28% more cost might be nothing. But if I put them side by side, I'm not buy an older gen card at 2k or so versus this at $1439. That being said, I probably wouldn't get a 7900 TX when I could get an XTX or 4080.
@John Doh: You're ignoring the fact that a lot of people dont care about RTX and have no reason to pay Nvidia tax for something they dont want .
Its also funny how nvidia fanboys thought ray tracing was worth extra $$ in the 20 series cards even though that destroyed performance yet here you are complaining about a cheaper card not performing the same lol ,
@rumchaser: Why are you comparing nvidia fanbois who praised 20 series card to me? Thats was the worst cards ever. nvidia should have paid users money to try thier RT and DLSS 1.0 shite. But its not the same with 4000 series which AMD is supposed to compete with this 1500$ XT card. This is not 600$ 6700XT card here my man. This is thier nextgen flagship. Just becuase there are people who dont give a shite about RT does not mean, people who do shouldnt comment here OR feel let down for what AMD has done? Create a half baked card and price it through the roof and all is good? nvidia priced shit with 4080 at 2K, does it make XT which is futher amputed for 1.5K good? Jesus. XTX should have been this price or lesser. 4080 should have been this price or lesser.
@Testeagle: Good point and also who really cares about RT barely notice the difference when you're playing . I couldn't care if there's a 100% accurate shadow or light beam here or there . So 7900xt or xtx xxxtxxx whatever I'm in
@John Doh: Is AMD even trying? Same as with all their previous generations, their GPUs do alright technically, but are way overpriced. And that’s despite of their key competitor inflating prices. Who wants to spend A$1440 on a GPU that is plagued by driver issues, sucks in Raytracing, is slower than advertised and lacks features like DLSS? Gamers who spend that kind of money want a high end product. Not this.
@maxbon: I am an AMD fanboi, but I am tired of AMD letting me down. I bot thier 3700X because they did it and they deserved it. I might even buy thier over priced 7000 CPUs, but not their GPUs. Definitely not at his pathetic price.
@John Doh: You make it sound like ray tracing is the be all and end all when it doesn't matter squat to most gamers. Steam survey says over 50% of gpu users(probably more but i stopped when I got to 50%) don't even have graphics cards capable of ray tracing. Got a 1650, 2060, heck even some would even say users with 70 tier cards are wasting their time with Raytracing.
This new generation of AMD cards are actually alright. I can find a 4080 easy but your average user doesnt want to spend $2k plus on a card. Ill be ordering one of these shortly and enjoying some games. Do you even Game? Or is your life flashing past you replying to endless posts on this site. Is this what its going to be like for you till the end?
Its pretty sad really.
@Benzaah: Everyone banging on about DLSS and raytracing on every AMD cards deal like it's needed. I really just need raw raster for my sim rig, most games I run for it don't even support either. AMD up till now has been awesome bang for buck comparatively.
@Benzaah: Who cares about what other people think of RT? Most people just are happy with 6700XT and below cards. Look at steam survey.
Unfortunately we are not on those 500$ GPU page. This is a 1500$ GPU which you would use for next 3 to 4 years page. RT is already integrated into all the game engines and is going to be the future where slightly higly priced nvidia cards are doing better. If you are happy about not enabling RT all good, but that does not mean others dont. Go see HUB video. He has specifically said how bad the 7900XT is that he wont even review 3rd party cards until prices come down. His video image clearly shows him dumping the GPU into the garbage bin. That is his and many people opinions, but not yours, but still good as every body has thier own opinions.
Yes I do game not as much as I used to. I own a 4K OLED C2 TV and a 3080Ti. I waited for 7000 series GPU, but AMD gave out GPU which is nothing but crap. had to take the nvidia route.
@John Doh: Ok off topic here but ffs it's starting to really annoy me when people don't know how to use a dollar symbol correctly.
FYI it comes BEFORE the numbers, not after.
@John Doh: HAHAHAHA.Who The F has time to have an alt account on a website like this? Unlike you, who even took the time to check my history, you sad individual. The fact i don't bother to post here much means this site is not my life.
@Benzaah: Wow! the heck … I wouldn't have even thought about creating other accounts to reply to my own comments ..lol I'd say the people that would accuse others of that are probably the people who do it often…
@Benzaah: Apprantly you seem to have which is the sad part. You even know on how many threads i have commented on. You said it yourself that I have spent so much time here. You have read all those comments, and call me sad. Get a life dude.
@John Doh: Mate, I'm 40 and been gaming since 13, I got 6800xt and all the games I play, I play with RT off because it makes no difference, the only game that it does is metro 3 , rest is rubbish.
For competitive games it's useless
1440 P and 240 hz is the way to go and this card will do it easily , if I didn't have 6800 xt I'd get it over anything cashvidia throws out as it's an insult to a normal gamer with their price .
Only ppl buying cashvidia crap are kids with parents credit cards or ones with no sense of money@botchie: Mate, many here are of the same age. If you want to spend 1500$ on a GPU without strong RT capability and happy with it, all good. Doesnt mean everyone would be happy. Few Games today might be good with RT, but you cannot predict next 3 to 4 years there wont be good games. Also, Its not just me, many are unhappy. For some reason people are targetting me on this thread while others share the same opinions in the comments here. Even most reviewers have the same opinion if you have watched the XT reviews, enough said on that part. Even hardware unboxed hinted, buy the pathetic 4080 instread of XTX.
Coming to nvidia GPU, I never suggested buying a new one. I said buying a good used, warranty remaining card of similar caliber. I wouldnt give a cent to Huang's greed. I would continue to buy AMD CPUs as they are competitive. But I am not happy with their cards.
There are simply no bad cards. just bad pricing. This is one of the badly priced card.
@John Doh: Yeah, these top tier cards should be sub 1k , if you can get 4k console with RT for $750 , gpu prices are a rip off .
RT is a gimmick and I'll stand by that .
I would pay good money for a 4090 that is not xxl and uses 1000w of power, all due to the RT.
Maybe few generations away they will tweak it so it's not so juicy
@Benzaah: Damn straight , heck even integrated 5600g graphics is good enough for most games even squeeze 1440p low out of some. I play dying light 2, borderlands 3 and BAR at 1440p on that lol
I didn't care about RT 3 years ago, I don't care about RT now. As I see it, I'm going to get more value out of higher raster frame rates and upgrading to one of the upcoming HDR monitors next year then paying more for something better at RT this year.
Lol you think this is a good price….. delusional.
Ok "got to". What's the current price on them again? Like $1149-$1299 and the 7900 XT outperforms it. If you can get a 6900 XT around $1000 or lower, then yes, at a dollar per frame rate it's probably the 6900 XT, that's if you discount the 7900 XT is going to provide better overall FPS.'
If you look at the chart further down, the 7900 XT at this price has the 6900 XT beat on current pricing per frame.
Using Tech power up's numbers and your prices, the 7900 Xt gives 20% more fps for nearly bang on 20% more dollars.
I don't know what people are so happy about but for a big leap new generation with all manner of chiplet benefits, this is not progression worthy of celebration.
If I am missing something please do let me know
Edit: the table you mentioned is actually showing the 6900xt beating the 7900 for value at current pricing
Does anyone have the updated fps per dollar chart that used to get posted?
Good price but I still think its sad to see that AMD pulled a Nvidia this generation and just like Nvidia they dont care about consumers at all and are very much willing to pull scammy moves like the the 7900XT and 6800s.
This I learnt with release of new CPUs. Too bad, even tho AMD is losing GPU share like shit, they still try to pull of stunts like this.
It’s the same story every time. There are major ambitions on AMDs part and unrealistic customer expectations to match. At one point, the biz guys at AMD “decide” that they’ve finally caught up on NVIDIA. And set the prices accordingly.
And time and again, the GPUs that hit the store shelves are technically behind and too expensive for what they are.
wow the corporation is a corporation much like the other corporation, truly groundbreaking, the underdog narrative doesnt work when its a $1400 gpu
Is the gigabyte 6900xt worth it at $1149?
No
The pre black friday Amazon deals of 6900xt for $900 or 6950xt for $1069 would be the benchmark last gen prices.
HODL until XTX gets down to this price…
They're basically sold out everywhere and increased the price to just under $2k for the next shipment of cards. Not happening anytime soon.
That's why people should HODL…
There were not enough cards basically. Creating artifical scarcity. Why? Becuase they have shit load of previous gen cards to clear. Both AMD and Nvidia.
I think it'll be at least 6 to 12 months before the XTX drops to this price, if that.
If you're looking to get a card now (and have been looking at the top-end cards), this is a pretty good deal. If you're upgrading from a recently gen card, then its not worth the upgrade.
how is your 3080 10GB Tuf? 12gb is much better on future proofing.
@[Deactivated]: So far it is performing very well in all my games, but I don't have Cyberpunk 2077 or newer games like Requiem A Plague Tale in my collection yet. Obviously 12GB version is more future proofing. I am gaming on 3440x1440 ultrawide monitor, not 4K monitor, so not as many pixels to deal with.
@edfoo: ahh 2k is fine then, 4k is different story. I'm getting 65-75 FPS on 2k CP2077 on all ultra, RT on with 3080 as well.
I believe that makes it a better deal then the 7900xtx value wise now based off HWUBs msrp numbers. Considering how bad the prices of the 6000 series have gone here that should mean it would be the best price/perf for a high end card.
I think this also means it's now under the $900 USD price as well, so an actual deal. Would be free shipping with CA on Ebay as well I think.
Please read this reddit thread in here before you jump into to buy a new AMD card. It is your money, your choice, but hopefully you make an informed decision.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/zvvcio/do_not_buy_a_79…
Keep in mind this is sold through Computer Alliance via ebay. If you actually encounter an issues there's very low odds you'd be knocked back like that user was, and if that did happen you'd have an actual course of action to take via the govt because of our consumer laws.
people online would rather worship AMd than make sensible purchases
I've just built a new PC, but am still missing a new graphics card (currently on a my original 970), so I've been keeping track of prices. Likely some ozbargainers have a better spreadsheet going around but this is what I've tracked. Nvidia pricing isn't as accurate since I probably won't be getting a card from them, and haven't updated it as much as a result.
Brand Card Current Price 1440p 1080p PassMark 1440p / $ 1080p / $ Recent BP Best Price All Nvidia RTX 4090 $3,188.50 116.5 109.5 39,141 3.6538 3.4342 $3,188.50 $2,799.00 Nvidia RTX 4080 $2,199.00 98.3 98.3 38,197 4.4702 4.4702 $2,199.00 $1,899.00 Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti $2,923.61 82.4 83.9 29,703 2.8184 2.8697 $1,999.00 $1,999.00 Nvidia RTX 3090 $2,500.00 76.5 79.4 26,742 3.0600 3.1760 $2,231.90 $2,231.90 Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti $1,699.00 74.8 77.8 27,284 4.4026 4.5792 $1,576.00 $1,576.00 Nvidia RTX 3080 $1,199.00 68.4 72.7 25,231 5.7048 6.0634 $1,198.93 $1,198.93 AMD RX 7900 XTX $1,979.00 100 100 29,445 5.0531 5.0531 $1,969.00 $1,789.00 AMD RX 7900 XT $1,439.10 89.3 92.4 28,785 6.2053 6.4207 $1,439.10 $1,439.10 AMD RX 6950 XT $1,367.30 77.6 82.2 28,660 5.6754 6.0118 $1,499.00 $1,079.34 AMD RX 6900 XT $1,149.00 73.6 78.4 26,302 6.4056 6.8233 $1,149.00 $908.78 AMD RX 6800 XT $999.00 68.3 73.9 24,154 6.8368 7.3974 $898.00 $760.75 1440p price vs frames performance graph
1080p price vs frames performance graphPerformance values are a percentage from the 7900 XTX from this Reddit thread, most of AMD best prices are from OzB and the recent best prices are from when I started tracking it. The performance per dollar is multiplied by 100 so it wasn't just small decimals everywhere. I haven't included ray-tracing since I don't care much for it.
Since the XTXs are probably gonna be at $2k for a while, this puts the 7900 XT at this price point in a good position. Only thing to consider/guess now is will the 6900 XT drop below $1k again, since that for me is the best price/performance/card age point that we'll get.
A lot of of the last gen cards have no more resupplies by the looks of it, hence the sharp increase in prices. This makes it quite unviable to go with a 6800 xt level card forcing people to wait, comprise with lower performance cards or pay more.
Yeah the common base-tier card (ASUS) don't seem to be coming in. There's still a fair number of 6800 XTs and 69X0 XTs floating around for like $1.2k to $1.6k, I just don't know why they'd bother listing them at that price when non-deal 7900 XTs exist for the same price. At this rate the 7700 and 7800 cards will come out with these ones still floating around for silly amounts of money
I have a huge regret for not pulling the trigger on a sub $800 6800 xt
Hey mate, if you're considering a previous-generation card your best bet is to look at the used market, for me that would be eBay, community forums and Facebook groups. Happy shopping :)
Read some interesting stats earlier today:
According to JPR, Intel captured 4% of the discrete GPU market in the third quarter of 2022, compared to roughly 0% a year earlier. AMD's share dropped from 17% to 8%, while Nvidia's share rose from 83% to 88%.
It's scary how fast AMD's share of the GPU market is dropping. Hope they don't drop out of the GPU race completely and focus on consoles otherwise Nvidia will bend over all PC gamers with no lube.
I think if the up supply of the xtx they'll grab some back but these falling xt prices will help too.
Third quarter AMD released nothing, while Nvidia launched the 4090. Not so surprising the market shifted that way.
Unfortunately the lukewarm launch of 7900 series probably won't see much improvement for AMD in quarter 4.
Here's hoping they release much improved 7950xtx… Mid next year along with lower models and price drops to be competitive again.
Be aware, these founder edition card have hot spot temperature issue: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-investigating-rx-7900-…
Maybe that's why retailers are reducing prices?I believe this is a QA issue, some users have been able to fix the issues via repasting and some have demonstrated what seem to be uneven contact plates for the GPU cooling.
According to Techpowerup, the reference cooler is pretty good temp wise when it's put together properly. They got a 74°C hotspot on theirs. So if you buy one, just double check the hotspot (if it's hitting 110/thermal throttling it's faulty)
known two people to get 110c tjunction temps and 3 that got coil whine, even if its a qa issue, you shouldnt have to fix a $1400 gpu out of the box
Absolutely. Just wanted to make clear for anyone purchasing these appear to be QA issues, and not inherent design flaws ala the 5700xt reference.
Could someone with eBay Plus please check if the code applies to this item on eBay, and if the full $300 discount is applied?
Yes.
Buy It Now price: AU $3,299.00 -AU $300.00 Discount amount:
Your price: AU $2,999.00@Hotshot Thank you, appreciate you taking the time to check for me. Will have to sort a subscription to eBay Plus now
Was about to pull the trigger until I read about poor vr compatibility at the moment.
Best to also take a look at these VR specific benchmarks : (https://sf.ezoiccdn.com/ezoimgfmt/babeltechreviews.com/wp-co…)
Unfortunately AMD have absolutely carked their vr performance this gen
Taken from Babel Tech Reviews (https://babeltechreviews.com/hellhound-rx-7900-xtx-vs-rtx-40…)
still gonna buy 3080 and just skip this hellish 70/40 generation, unless 4070 is tolerable then maybe
Are you thinking a new or used 3080? I'm in the same boat as you here but I'm finding it hard to justify a new 3080 at only 200 bucks less than this
Is a quality 650W PSU generally ok for this card?
Depends on your other components, I would say probably be ok most of the time but if your spending $1500 on a card you should be able to upgrade your PSU… Otherwise might be a good idea to review your build and see if there's a better way to distribute $1500 between your components….
Power wise it is not a problem, I was mainly asking for power surge (not sure if that is an issue for 7900XT). Can't be bothered getting a new PSU and reconnecting every cable.
Actually there's a good review of the transient power readings (mainly for the xtx if I remember correctly) by gamers Nexus… there was some funky readings with the cards in comparison to nvidia… Overall I'd say it'll be fine… Most reviews had the full (at the wall) power around the 550-600 mark… HUB had the most realistic use case reviews IMO.
Hrmm tempting to upgrade my 6900 xt. Could maybe get it done for $400 and at 4k my frames would be well improved!
6900 xt is still solid.
Personally I'd wait to see if they release a 7950xtx or at least see improvement in drivers before jumping in.Yep not bad advice, I'll be interested to see if the changeover could occur for as little as $400 though in future. Ppl hate the new XT, supply is low. Both of these will be rectified I think soon enough.
With a 6900xt I wouldn't bother with an upgrade until the 8900xt tbh. Not enough of an fps gain to justify the price from there IMO.
Maybe but to me it looks like paying 30% to gain 50-100% at 4k. Man maths checks out!
Depending on what game(s) you play sure but across the 13-game average from HUB you're gaining about 23% FPS.
One things make me angry new Geforce 4000 series and Radeon 7000 series set the price above old model Geforce 3000 series and Radeon 6000 series, they aren't replacing the old models but just introduce the new model. If that set the standard of pricing for all new devices, consumer lost.
Once It gets to $1100AUD I think it will be a decent deal as that is only a FRACTION above the 6800XT MSRP on launch (which hit just before the 2nd coin mining craze where prices tripled)
I agree that this is a 6800XT equivalent in disguise… I think AMD should have gotten the same treatment as the 4080 12gb for the naming of the 7900xt and xtx… They got away with it because of nvidia and their idiotic move in price tiers…
I think ppl need to stop comparing a card that obliterates a 6800 xt to a 6800 xt. This thing destroys a 6900 xt at 4k.
That's what NVIDIA and AMD want … Instead of expecting leaps forward for the same price it's now pay a premium if you want actual advancement… otherwise it's stagnation performance per dollar… Until we as consumers stop this trend companies bound to pleasing share holders will continue this behaviour….
Sorry but I don't think this is ok … We'll just have to disagree here…
'Obliterating' the last-gen equivalent card in performance also typically came with a complementing obliteration in performance per dollar, something that is curiously absent from both the RTX 4080 16GB and RX 7900 XT this time around. These sales are only just pushing the 7900 XT into 'begrudgingly acceptable' territory, which just isn't good enough in my opinion.
As far as second-best cards go in the launch product stacks, and ignoring the mining boom for just one second, both the RTX 4080 16GB and RX 7900 XT look absolutely woeful compared to both of their former counterparts - the RTX 3080 10GB and RX 6800 XT, when compared to their corresponding top-of-the-line options.
TLDR: I think the criticism is generally fair. AMD has missed the minimum mark by about 10% which is still within the realm of fixable by drivers. A 20% uplift would be a game-changer and closer to what we were hoping. I think the bad performance woes are even worse further down the stack. Also, the US pricing never correlates to AUD and I didn't have time to look up the AU pricing for the comparison but overall I think this paints a valid picture.
Taking HUB benchmarks at 4k:
At MSRP:
The 7900 XT has $9.57 cost per fps for 94 FPS
The 6900 XT has $13.15 cost per fps for 76 FPS
Which is a 23% improvement gen on gen, a 10% uplift here would bring us to around 35% improvement gen on gen which is IMHO the minimum and of course it only looks worse when we compare current pricing which is significantly lower than MSRP.Now, why is this a huge problem for AMD? This is just pure speculation mind you.
If we apply the same lacklustre uplift for the 6800 XT
We'd expect 84 FPS average at an MSRP of say $720 as the 7900XT received a 10% price cut when compared to the previous generation 6900XT.So now we have a hypothetical 7800XT at $720 delivering 84 FPS and a 7900XT delivering 94 FPS average at 4k
So the 7900 XT is 12% faster and 25% more expensive, not great value.At 84 FPS the 7800 XT would be delivering the same performance as a 6950 XT which currently costs $800 USD or when compared to the current price of the 6900 XT ($720) 10% more for the same money.
I have an 7900xtx I want to sell in Melbourne. Where can I list/post it?
Mods pls remove this comment if not allowed.Classified section and yes your comment will be removed.
going to need to upgrade my 750w psu first lol need one of those fancy 1000w or 1600w psu's lol
If it's a good quality 750w it will probably be ok (unless you are also running a 1390k…)
And don't attach too many accessories to your PC like joystick, steering wheel, PC VR headset, twenty RGB case fans etc…
Gimme dat XFX RX 7950 XTXXX
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