seem cheaper than previous deal, but need to be hurry if you wanted
else you can ignore
CamelCamelCamel.
without prior approval.
Doubt you'll get it on this one…
I have travelled with this quite a fair bit and it has been checked a few times. It has passed every time (Most recently Virgin Australia domestic, but have had it tested internationally)
I've taken it several times successfully.
Did you declare you were taking prohibited items on board?
That is simply incorrect.
It simply is correct.
"Doubt you'll get it on this one [approved]".
That's not correct.
All you need to do is get approval from the airline, which is easy to do, and they have always approved these battery packs in my experience. From my research, 101-160Wh are basically approved unless they have a specific reason not to.
For Virgin, you only need to declare them at check-in, if they meet the below requirements (such as this one does):
Lithium-ion (polymer) over 100Wh up to 160Wh
Common Use: Batteries for large camera equipment, garden tools, small recreational devices, large drones.
Spares: Only two (2) spare batteries. Must be declared at check-in.
For Jetstar and Qantas, email [email protected] for approval. It takes about a week to get approval via email, so you need to do it early. That being said, I've forgotten to email before, declared it at check-in, and they also approved it there. I don't know if that's standard procedure or they exercised some discretion, so best practice to still email.
@jv: Feel free to retort with a reference to a source instead of fear-mongering, JV.
I literally just linked to Virgin's website which say's they'll approve 2 spares at check-in.
@jv: Pick your poison, JV:
- Virgin will approve 2 spare battery packs, 101-160Wh, when declared at check-in.
- Qantas and Jestar will approve these batteries but require prior-approval via an email to <[email protected]> and declaration at check-in.
- Rex will approve 2 spare battery packs, 101-160Wh, when declared at check-in.
It's ok to be wrong, just have some grace about it…
require prior-approval
not guaranteed and requested to apply 5 business days before flight.
not much help when you are forced to change flights due to cancellations.
@jv: lol, let's not move the goal posts now, JidontflyVirgin.
Even then, I've had that exact thing happen and Jetstar approved my ROMOSS 30,000mAh 50W at the service desk.
Once you have approval it's valid for 12 months, so you just need to be a little organised if your airline is Qantas or Jetstar and you want to be assured. Rex and Virgin are definitely fine, and you didn't make any of these caveats, you just said "Doubt you'll get it on this one [approved]".
You're wrong.
Jetstar approved my at the service desk
Feel free to retort with a reference to a source instead of fear-mongering, besttraveltech.
@besttraveltech: Coincidently, you can probably carry a small rock in your hand luggage but they won't let you take scissors onboard..
@Luigi Savadamoni: The film 7500 pretty much exposes the insanity of security theatre (you can buy plenty of things within the airport that can be turned into better weapons than the nose hair trimmers you can't bring onto planes).
Exploding batteries aren't really security theatre though.
@jv good morning :)
Only just went oversea and back with this one in my hand carry. No issue.
if only they check…
went through the scanner and everything, even open it up to check but only check the liquid stuff
@kekw: if they follow the strict rules, you won't have a chance!
30,000mAh is over the limit so CodeXD & jv are correct!
@legelas: I went to Singapore, Thai, Viet and come back Sydney with no issues. They checked it very carefully in Thai but finally let me go
@whyyoudeath: We had 3 power banks at 3 seperate locations, they asked to see all three to check the capacities. No question asked when departed Vietnam and Singapore. It's at Suvarnabhumi airport if it makes any different. It could be because they were very quite, about 10 people in queue. However, they do have signs pior to security check clearly shows the restriction of powerbank. I'd rather to play safe than sorry since 30k mah powerbank doesn't come cheap
@legelas: I was in Thailand in November, carrying 2 power banks…one for phone, other for my laptop and never had them checked when I flew international or domestic.. Flew home via Singapore and no check there either..
@davidl2: Where do you get your information? ❓️
By my calculations 30 000mAh * 3.6V = 108 Wh
Thats well within the limits of carryon batteries ❗️
I thought 100Wh was the limit
It is.
Anything above that is categorised as a prohibited item and you are required to declare it when checking in.
The risk then it you may be refused to take it on board.
If you don't declare it, you risk a high fine and possible jail time…
@ripprind: Most of these (falsely; but works in our favor) claim Li-Ion too, so drop that figure to 3.4V nominal, not 3.6.
@ripprind: Its 111Wh, quite clearly written on the bottom, nominal voltage for most if not all LiIon batteries is 3.7v (including the pouch style LiPos used in these), only ones that go higher are LiHV packs but they're often used in more expensive devices like drones/phones etc.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61M-1XX34gL.SL1600.jpg
Thats well within the limits of carryon batteries
It is printed on the battery.
This one is 111Wh
@jv: Then it's sweet. 160 is the limit
The limit is given in Wh. Anyone who is talking about mAh limits is either confused or talking about a specific case not about a general rule.
then it's sweet. 160 is the limit
Only if you get granted permission, which isn't guaranteed.
Also risk when changing airlines that you wont get permission.
went through the scanner and everything
nothing to do with scanning.
everything to do with making false declarations about carrying dangerous goods.
penalty if caught can be up to 4 years jail.
@kekw: @ripprind this is true, 160Wh is the true limit for battery packs, though you still need to declare battery packs over 101Wh at check-in.
@kekw if you declare it, you'll be approved. It's basically a formality.
This battery pack will be approved for all Australian domestic flights, unless there is an abnormality (e.g. if they see the battery is swelling, the case is cracked open, etc, they may correctly view that as a risk).
USA? I feel like they'd probably be one of the strictest on this
I have this one, model no: (SW30+), different model but similar specs and looks same.
Just came back from Bangkok yesterday, carried this in my cabin baggage in all my 6 different flights.
At Bangkok, they do check the specs of your power bank at security check and no issues to carry this along.
I travelled using AirAsia and Vistara.
carried this in my cabin baggage in all my 6 different flights.
so you made false declarations that you were not carrying dangerous goods.
You can carry power banks in your cabin baggage, but not allowed in your checked-in baggage.
You have to take it out of your bag for inspection at security check before boarding the flights, so I didn't hide it or make any false declarations.
You can carry power banks in your cabin baggage,
Not these ones.
They exceed the power limit (they are 111Wh) and are categorised as dangerous goods… Look it up.
@jv: Yes, you're right, you can carry only upto 100 Wh, not sure about the specs of this new model. If it >100 Wh, not allowed.
Lucky that my model rating is 99.16 Wh, just within limits so was able to carry it without any issues.
@hothot: 100Wh-160Wh is permitted with approval. Qantas/Jetstar give you a form valid for 12 months that you apply for online. Virgin ask you declare at check in.
@hothot: I also have the SW30+ and confirm that it says 99.16Wh (and a capacity of 26800mAh). I too have had this checked and not had an issue.
Lucky that my model rating is 99.16 Wh
I'll need to make sure I check this spec before buying my next one… Don't want issues when boarding a plane… It's already bad enough at the moment with flight cancellations…
Can confirm, they always seem to check at BKK
Uhhh really? I've flown with the same one multiple times out of, into, and around Australia with it in my carry on baggage and it's never been an issue for me.
Uhhh really?
Yep, really…
When you sign the declaration for dangerous goods, you are claiming that you aren't bringing items like this on board.
With the 100 Wh limit for carry-on - does anyone have any idea if this applies per power bank? Or in total across all the power banks you bring in your carry-on?
You'll need to look it up per airline. For example, jetstar lists a maximum overall batteries you can carry as well as individual capacity per battery -
No more than 20 spare batteries in total, for personal use, are permitted per passenger. All other battery restrictions still apply.
All spare batteries must travel as carry-on baggage.
Batteries in checked baggage must have the ON/OFF switch protected to prevent accidental activation.
Batteries between 101Wh and 160Wh (eg in medical equipment) require airline approval – email [email protected] to make your request.
Any batteries over 160Wh must be sent by Qantas Freight (except motorised mobility aids, see below).
Lithium Ion battery (rechargeable) - exceeding 100Wh and up to 160Wh
Only two spares per passenger.
I have the older version of this, the SW30+. As other's have said, there is a 100W/h limit that applies to power banks before you have to get airline approval.
The SW30+, and very much likely this one, has a capacily of 28000mah/99.16Wh as per the information plate on the back.
I have flown many a time with this and have had it checked a number of times. It has always passed, never been an issue.
It's a little heavy, but I find it great for travelling as older hotel rooms rarely have a powerpoint near the bed adn this will charge multiple phones multiple times.
older hotel rooms rarely have a powerpoint near the bed
I carry an extension cord for this.
Because people are spreading misinformation and saying you are wrong, here's the proof:
Volts: 3.7v (nominal voltage for this type of battery, the amazon listing is wrong)
Amp Hours: 30,000mah = 30ah
WattHours: AH * V = 111WH
Because it's useful in the links later on, 160WH would be 43,000mah (compared to the 30,000 mah of this pack)
Casa has the following to say on the matter:
100-160WH: If you want to carry these kind of lithium batteries with you, you must get approval from your airline before flying.
or over 160WH:
For all other lithium batteries rated at 160Wh or more, you must transport these batteries as dangerous goods cargo. Contact your airline for more advice.
Both virgin and qantas allow 100-160 if you declare them, but not over 160
taken it several times across int'l flights (Dec 2022) and not even once was it looked at
I paid $33 for this last June.
it was last year…
Yes, 'last June' was last year…
Cool story, Dude! Guess what? This year the price has changed. Who'da thunk it? Those rascally scamps at Romoss had the cheek to bow to inflationary pressure and raise it by a whopping $7.49!! Won't anyone think of the children?
@Chazzozz: Well, this is an older model and competition had really stepped up. There were some pretty good pre-Christmas deals from Amazon for powerbanks (better specs and has wireless charging for this kind of price range). The other version with a LCD screen from Romoss is slightly better as it provides more information.
The main down side with these powerbanks is we don't really know the actual battery inside. Reliability is also something we cannot easily tell.
@netsurfer: All good, I appreciate your reply where you took the time to:
That kind of discussion actually promotes a good community, so I thank you.
@Chazzozz: All good. I get OP's reason for posting it. However, for 30,000 mAh, a decent display with some basic info is needed. The reason is fast charging doesn't always work perfectly with 3rd party chargers and powerbanks, so some info on what's going on is preferred.
I haven't used the newer powerbanks. My current view is I would only use older devices with these. If I really want to fast charge my new phones and tablets, I still prefer original.
Is it too big to hold? Thanks
It's big and heavy, but not too big to hold
about 17x8x3 cm
It feels ever so slightly larger than the larger sized phones
More like larger than 2 large phones stacked together.
@netsurfer: I should have specified that I was ignoring the thickness with that statement. It lines up with my phone and I can hold it comfortably stacked behind my phone with medium sized hands.
It's massive, won't fit in your pocket
seem normal price for phased-out/older powerbank
-no LCD
-slow charger
still thank you for sharing!
Agreed, I have one, charging is unimpressive and it stopped "fast charging"
30000mah is a power brick. I would recommend 10000/20000
yeah, I have 2Ah one and it's as big and heavy as my Alienware power supply
Agree. 10k mAh is 170g, but this 30k mAh is 678g. It weighs as much as 4x10k.
bought two of these back in 2019, one is still going strong, the other worked fine for a while, but the pack started expanding after a year or so…
I got this brand & specs (ROMOSS 30k mah) last year for $34.
Mine came with LCD screen.
It's a good battery, holds a lot of juice and it's good to carry in a bag. It's not small or light or super convenient unless you have a bag with you.
I'm really happy with it in terms of its performance but keep in mind that this one should not pass the airport security judging strictly by the rules. You can pull it off if they let you or don't check but it does exceed what most airlines and airports have explicitly spelled out as a no no.
Id recommend this. It's good deal.
Will wait for $33 again
I have the digital display version, get that if possible. Recommended.
The digital version shows you when quick charge / fast charge is being used. Also, you can check the voltage and current, which may be more accurate than using USB monitor.
I have both, while agree the digital display is handy for checking current/voltages, this model turns white on the battery icon LED indicators when QC is employed (otherwise red).
Also think the model with digital display is intended for asian market as there's no english writing on the bottom label.
Anyone know if these support USBC charging/fast charging for IPhones again?
They stopped a while ago. My old ones are redundant
I left mine at a relative's place. Need to grab it back. I have the version with a display. If you could wait for a few hours, I will get it back after work and test it. From memory, with iPad 8th gen, the USB-C charging is faster than USB-A, but it wasn't full USB-PD (it was 5V/2A, Apple FC). However, once I have it back, I can probe it and test it with an iPhone.
One thing that's good with the display version is that I found that fast charging doesn't always engage properly the first time. The display version has a fast charge icon (and you can check the voltage and current). The most recent charge attempt, I had to re-plug the cable into the powerbank to get quick charge to initiate. However, after 80% charge, the powerbank does enter slow charge anyway (to prevent the battery from blowing up).
Yeah my Romoss banks gave up doing USB-PD a while back. Looking through that amazon listing I cant see PD listed anywhere so probably safe to say they've given up on it?
I cannot confirm fast charging on iPhone yet because my iPhone is >80% charged.
Running through a USB-C meter, it does indicate the USB-C port does support USB-PD. Using an Android phone, it does fast charge (though it does take a few seconds to switch to fast charge mode).
Thanks. I’ll try again, after an update a few months ago. USB-c to lightning wasn’t charging at all any more on iPhone. Using genuine cable
Update:
The good thing about the version with a display is it tells you whether fast charging (USB-PD) is being used (blue fast charging icon light up). I generally don't use a powerbank with my iPhone 13.
@netsurfer: How strange. Maybe my two romoss are old.
iPhone 12 Max Pro ios16.2
69%
USB-c to lightning WONT charge at all.
5.0V and fluctuating 0-0.3a and doesn’t charge at all.
iPhone XS ios16.2
41%
USB-c to lightning WONT charge at all.
It actually connects/disconnects. (Battery symbol on iPhone goes charging/not charging)
V and A as above.
Charger - SW20PS+ and SW20 Pro
Genuine lightning cable
OK - can someone give a link to chargers they would recommend (if the price was right, of course)
Bought one of these a couple of years ago, and it caused a feral burnt smell through the house because it short circuited.
Too scared to touch the brand again after that
These powerbanks are like blackboxes. We really don't know what's inside. I generally don't use them on my latest devices. However,
I am even more cynical about some of the cheap Xiaomi chargers and cheap cables posted on OZB. I had an iPhone with shocking battery life. Upon further checking, I noticed the cabe I've been using to charge was not Apple original (looks like original, but carefully checking it I noticed it's not). Also, one of the Xiaomi chargers I bought burnt a cable and I think ruined one of my android phone's battery life. Luckily it was a really old phone.
I use one of these for my PineCil, works great.
Just FYI, this cannot be taken on a plane without prior approval from airline.