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Patriot P210 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD $79.15 (Sold Out), 2TB SSD $148 Delivered @ Patriot Memory Amazon AU

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2023 is the year of low priced SSDs and here's two in 1TB and 2TB from Patriot Memory for a low price. Obviously these SSDs are going to be DRAMless so I'd recommend against using as your main OS drive, however they're still good for a game drive, portable SSD and cheap fast storage.

On a plus side they both offer high endurance compared to other budget SSDs with the 1TB having 480 TBW endurance and the 2TB having 960 TBW endurance. They both have a 3 year warranty, seq. read/write speed of 520/430 MB/s and should be TLC flash.

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  • DASHCAM NOW DUDE on 06/02/2023 - 13:36

    recommend against using as your main OS drive, however they're still good for a game drive,

    How is it for single drive for PS4?

    • Clear on 06/02/2023 - 13:37
      +1

      I almost said it's not thinking you said PS5. AFAIK it should be no issue for the PS4.

      • DASHCAM NOW DUDE on 06/02/2023 - 13:38

        Would DRAM be advantageous for PS4?

        • Clear on 06/02/2023 - 13:39
          +1

          If you'd be writing a lot of data to it then it would be. If it's just reading the data on there it matters less. I don't have a PS4 myself so I'm not 100% certain.

        • FireRunner on 06/02/2023 - 14:12
          +4

          I upgraded from a Crucial BX500 480GB to a Samsung QVO 1TB in my PS4 Pro.
          Installing and copying games from an external drive was really slow with the Crucial.
          Also found Spider-Man to sometimes pause when swinging around the city as it loaded data in with the BX500. It stopped doing that with the Samsung
          My recommendation would be to get a drive with DRAM.
          I would only use a DRAM-less SATA drive for secondary storage or as a very cheap upgrade to an old laptop/desktop (so that would be 120 GB to 256GB in size)

  • doobey1231 on 06/02/2023 - 13:46
    +7

    the 256 for $25 is a great option for sprucing up an old laptop

  • netjock on 06/02/2023 - 14:11
    +1

    Good price! Must resist!

  • SimmoAus05 on 06/02/2023 - 14:15

    Would anyone have any good recommendations for an enclosure if it was to be used as an external drive via a USB A / C connection?

    • Jackson on 06/02/2023 - 14:27

      There are often orico enclosures going for 0 to 5 bucks on here from places like zavvi (spelling?), but I haven't seen one in a while. I have a couple of them and no issues

  • vipero on 06/02/2023 - 14:16

    Silicon prices dropping a lot this year. Production must be heading back towards the norm?

    • Clear on 06/02/2023 - 14:18
      +2

      Yep the shortages ended last year so the prices are finally falling. Equivalent DRAMless 1TB SSDs in China are about $50 so $70ish for local pricing means we've now caught up.

    • GordonD on 06/02/2023 - 15:18

      What is causing the price drop for lots of PC components is that production was ramped up to cope with the increase in demand for PCs during covid lockdowns, but now covid is passed demand for PCs has dropped quite considerably, and manufacturers have lots of stock they've got to get rid of to make way for the next generation of products.

      So it not the cost of manufacture that's gone down. Its that they are selling off excess stock at a loss. Once its sold the prices will go back to a level that maintains profitability.

  • Temptation on 06/02/2023 - 14:18

    I was to use this to store/run programs and games instead of clogging up C:/ …. will this be suitable?
    As windows drives in on my NVMe but only 512gb

    • FireRunner on 06/02/2023 - 14:37
      +1

      Yeah, this is great for a secondary drive. It might be better to keep programs on the primary NVMe but things like games can definitely be put on a secondary drive like this

      • Temptation on 06/02/2023 - 14:41

        thanks =)

      • Frunk on 06/02/2023 - 14:41

        Would you say this is good for a boot drive? It'd be for a secondary computer build.

        • FireRunner on 06/02/2023 - 14:53
          +1

          I would avoid for a boot drive. Unless it's reviving an old PC, an NVMe drive is much better option for not much more.
          Something like an SN570 is a great value option

        • Anthropomorphised on 06/02/2023 - 15:01
          +1

          better to get a unit with cache unless it's just as something basic like a HTPC/plex server

  • Xianese on 06/02/2023 - 14:20

    Not bad… may be worth picking up and using as my Steam drive…

  • Jackson on 06/02/2023 - 14:29

    Anyone have an opinion on using these in a home server for file sharing of docs/pics/streaming flicks?

    On that note, what are he current recommendations on running a NAS at home? I don't want to have a whole pc on all day, and I don't want to buy a dedicated Qnap or whatever they are. Thinking cheap and power efficient as possible

    • FireRunner on 06/02/2023 - 14:39

      Nope. For home server you’d want something more reliable than budget end SSDs

    • rickdwp on 17/02/2023 - 22:08
      +1

      Check out your Router, majority of them have USB that can be used to plug in a portable HDD and use as a NAS. That is the cheapest, quickest solution.

  • sss9660 on 06/02/2023 - 15:21

    Whoops got this as a new OS drive.. what negatives are in store for me if i do use it as an OS drive.

  • Viospeed on 06/02/2023 - 15:21

    How do these compare to the Crucial BX series SSDs?

  • scotty on 06/02/2023 - 15:49
    +1

    Now I am looking for a small PC that can take two of these. Unfortunately most TinyMiniMicro 1L PCs have only one 2.5" bay, and most Mini ITX cases are too big.

    • Clear on 06/02/2023 - 16:01
      +1

      Minisforum have a lot of smaller Mini PCs with two SATA. They can be a bit pricey with the exchange rate and AliExpress may be cheaper during sales.

      There's also the Asrock DeskMini B660 and DeskMini X300 if you can find them locally.

      • scotty on 06/02/2023 - 16:06
        +1

        Ah thanks. Exactly what I am looking for — 2x 2.5" side by side at the base of the PC. Some also come with 2x NIC to run as routers.

        • Clear on 06/02/2023 - 16:09

          Minisforum are probably the best out of all the Chinese "low tier" brands and what I want to buy when I'm eventually not so tight on the $$$. I have a heap of 4th/5th gen Intel NUCs with USB enclosures and Ethernet adapters instead.

    • Trance N Dance on 06/02/2023 - 16:02

      As long as the cables are there and it's not blocking airflow, just tape it somewhere.

    • kogi on 06/02/2023 - 18:45

      i just use a usb-c enclosure. fast enough for media sharing

      • scotty on 06/02/2023 - 18:56

        I am trying to run a RAID array (mdadm or ZFS) and I heard USB isn't that stable.

        • kogi on 06/02/2023 - 19:00

          yeah, not for raid

          I am eying this, will probably try to snipe
          https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/275664747127

          10w 4c/4t cpu
          Should have 2 sata & 1 m.2.
          The case is a bit big though.

          Tempted to buy one just for a looksee

  • umoddbro on 06/02/2023 - 16:20

    How does it compare to the Patriot Burst Elite?

    • Clear on 06/02/2023 - 16:22
      +1

      Burst Elite is slower with 450/320 MB/s read/write speeds with the 1.92TB offering 800 TBW endurance and 960GB offering 400 TBW endurance.

      • umoddbro on 06/02/2023 - 16:28

        Ah thanks, p210 it is then… gives a bit more storage as well for not much difference in price.

  • G11987 on 06/02/2023 - 18:51

    $130.91 now

  • cerealsmok3r on 06/02/2023 - 19:08

    noooo missed out. will have to wait for next deal

  • harshbdmmaster718 on 06/02/2023 - 20:05

    Just chose to comment here among the other SSD deals because some of you seem to know what you are talking about.

    Just wondering, do NVMe drives in general get much hotter with extended use compared to a SATA?

    From what I experienced doing large backups onto external drives. I noticed a SATA SSD in an enclosure definitely doesn't get anywhere near as hot as a M.2/NVMe drive in an enclosure. Same deal with the Samsung T7 I recently got (which uses NVMe memory chips), when touching the case after unplugging it can get pretty toasty after copying a few hundred Gigabytes.

    The NVMe is definitely faster for sure, but I am wondering for the common person a SATA SSD might be enough and actually be more reliable/stable due to less extreme temperatures?

    One more thing was I noticed some reviews mentioning their NVMe drive "failing" after attempting to copy large amounts of files during extended periods. They concluded likely due to overheating, but also mention the temperature was within the "healthy" range and below the maximum operating temp that is specified by the manufacturer.
    Also some expensive NVMe SSD's come with headsinks on them while most don't and you can see it's just a chip on a board.
    So I am thinking the heatsink is kind of a way to deal with extreme use and high temperatures, but they purposely make it a "premium option" with NVMe, while SATA always comes in an enclosure which is not really a heatsink but it will do some of the job of reducing temperature.

    • Clear on 06/02/2023 - 20:18

      M.2 NVMe SSDs certainly run hotter due to so much being crammed in a smaller space compared to a 2.5" SATA SSD where it has an enclosure and most often only fills 1/3 of half of the case. Plus they run faster and require more power to do so.

      Heatsinks certainly are considered to be a "premium feature". I posted a dirt cheap heatsink here previously that would help reduce the temperature. You can buy much larger heatsinks or even some with fans that would reduce the temp significantly more.

      Excessive heat can certainly contribute to the failure of an SSD. Often there's other factors that contribute more.

      The controller will have an impact, for example a DRAMless SSD like this will suffer more under write heavy workloads compared to one with DRAM cache. The quality of the flash is important, as low grade flash or factory seconds (i.e. Micron flash that didn't pass QC) used will likely have less endurance and thus more likely to fail under heavy work loads and repeated use.

      Then there's the type of flash used such as MLC, SLC, TLC and QLC. SLC lasts longer than MLC, which lasts longer than TLC, which lasts longer than QLC. Typically in consumer drives TLC is the sweet spot with MLC/SLC being rarer/more expensive and QLC being cheaper and worse off.

      • harshbdmmaster718 on 06/02/2023 - 20:30

        and most often only fills 1/3 of half of the case.

        Interesting, didn't know that.

        Plus they run faster and require more power to do so.

        More power definitely makes sense it getting much hotter.

        You can buy much larger heatsinks or even some with fans that would reduce the temp significantly more.

        Good point. But the one PC I have is one of those all in one types, so I don't think there is any space for a heatsink. And with the "M.2/NVMe shape" external I just have a cheap M.2 enclosure which does the job, it came with "heat pads" that make contact with the SSD and the case is metal. But I think that one is the hottest I have ever touched, literally had to let go because it was searing hot after copying files. I am guessing there are more "premium" thicker heatsink external cases out there, but when I looked they cost a lot more I think. But worth investing in maybe if you have an expensive SSD inside.

        Excessive heat can certainly contribute to the failure of an SSD. Often there's other factors that contribute more.
        The controller will have an impact, for example a DRAMless SSD like this will suffer more under write heavy workloads compared to one with DRAM cache. The quality of the flash is important, as low grade flash or factory seconds (i.e. Micron flash that didn't pass QC) used will likely have less endurance and thus more likely to fail under heavy work loads and repeated use.

        Yeah the negative reviews I read was for quite a popular drive from a big brand, large capacity NVMe with DRAM. But yeah some couldn't handle what was thrown at it even if it was within spec. Might be a particular issue with that model though as there was more than 1 review which mentioned the failure during extended use.

        I also understand this kind of extended use isn't going to be that common for a "system drive". But for someone that uses SSD's for backups it is going to be quite common. Or even maybe when setting up a new computer and copying all your files over to the new PC.

        Then there's the type of flash used such as MLC, SLC, TLC and QLC. SLC lasts longer than MLC, which lasts longer than TLC, which lasts longer than QLC. Typically in consumer drives TLC is the sweet spot with MLC/SLC being rarer/more expensive and QLC being cheaper and worse off.

        Yeah I have heard this before but keep jumbling up which order they are best to worst lol. I think all the drives I have and the one that failed in a few reviews was TLC, which is most common right now I think.

        • Clear on 07/02/2023 - 10:32

          It's not uncommon for the USB enclosures to run a lot more hot than inside a PC. The chipset used in the enclosure makes a big difference. Cheaper ones use JMicron which runs hotter than more expensive ones like Realtek.

          Other issue with big brand SSDs is that some like Crucial are notorious for swapping out components. TLC flash gets replaced with QLC, cheaper chipsets are used and so forth. So one batch might be really good and another really bad for the same price. Samsung are honest when they do this and change the model, while most brands don't.

          • harshbdmmaster718 on 07/02/2023 - 17:00

            @Clear:

            It's not uncommon for the USB enclosures to run a lot more hot than inside a PC.

            Yeah I get ya definitely if the PC has a few fans and air circulating to the outside. But I was really using the external drive as an example of heat. So I was thinking for the common person like me who has an old off the shelf prebuilt filled with dust, maybe SATA SSD is the safer bet because it runs cooler overall.

            Other issue with big brand SSDs is that some like Crucial are notorious for swapping out components. TLC flash gets replaced with QLC, cheaper chipsets are used and so forth. So one batch might be really good and another really bad for the same price.

            Yeah I remember watching a youtube video on that. They didn't mention Crucial though. But do you have a link to webpage that does teardowns and documents these swapping of parts in SSD's??

            Also interestingly, the drive that had bad reviews about failures was made by that big brand you mentioned. And I remember it being the more expensive model. The cheaper and more common ones seem to do better (maybe less extreme temperatures?).

            • Clear on 07/02/2023 - 17:12

              @harshbdmmaster718: A lot of the discussion around Crucial has happened on reddit like here where the Crucial MX500 is now using QLC in their 2TB and 4TB SSDs.

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