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[eBook] The Real Anthony Fauci by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. $0 @ Amazon US

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      • +2

        Apparently a lot of you think Wikipedia IS the one source of truth.

        • +9

          Wikipedia lists the primary sources, it just summarises them in an article. I would be really interested to know what your primary sources are.

      • +3

        Don’t spread your lies here, go back to 4chan

      • +1

        Wikipedia is probably the worst place to go if you're after the truth

        True

  • +32

    Well, Tucker Carlson, Tony Robbins and Alan Dershowitz all have great things to say about this book. That tells me enough.

    • +8

      Who needs the TGA when you have the TTA?

    • +9

      For those who don't know, Dershowitz was Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer during his first round of human trafficking/underage victim allegations; he negotiated a secret deal with the State of Florida that the victims weren't told about until after it had been signed and was a done deal. He also sued one of Epstein's victims after she named him as being involved in Epstein's crimes.

      …he's a piece of work, is what I'm saying.

      • +1

        Other notable clients: Donald Trump, OJ Simpson, Harvey Weinstein and Julian Assange (the latter two as a consultant for their legal teams).

  • +11

    Malone sounds like another wackjob - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._Malone

    • +16

      The inventor of mrna tech is a wacko? You can't get enough of his tech…

      • +9

        Yeah, he is a wacko. He claims to be the inventor of "mRNA vaccines", but only has his name on the patent of a distant relative of what the mRNA vaccines actually use.

        There's a reason why he's not getting royalties - and it's not out of the goodness of his heart.

        • Ah yes, so he's only invented a vaccine super similar to mRNA vaccines… So obviously he would know nothing at all about them and we can just go off what the ozbargain cookers post, they would definitely know more about vaccines than someone who has spent their whole lives developing them. Hight quality logic.

          • +13

            @Binchicken22: He didn't invent a vaccine similar to mRNA vaccines lol

            In fact he hasn't invented a vaccine…

        • You really should take the time and look into his background.

          Even made it easy for you with a recent podcast.

          https://youtu.be/52ML4SNr3gE?t=201

          The guy worked for NHS, on many boards, he was dealing with multi million dollar projects and also worked with defence contracts for the military.

          • +2

            @vash5: I am aware of his background, his research and his claims.

            He exaggerates like no tomorrow. As if it somehow helps his credibility to do so.

      • +3

        @ hippyhippy + binchicken22 He didn't invent mRNA at all, although his early work was important. Do some reading.

    • +16

      But Tump said that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are good so it must be true…bleach too.

      • +3

        Yeah, let’s try injecting it (bleach).

        • Show me the quote where he said inject bleach..

          And not a new article.. the actual footage from the press conference.

            • @killergreely: As per your link..

              Quote from Trump..

              "So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light," the president said, turning to Dr Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response co-ordinator, "and I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it.

              "And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting," the president continued.

              "And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?

              "So it'd be interesting to check that"

              Where did he say injecting bleach??

      • -6

        Those drugs are good and have been beneficial for quite some time. Unfortunately they don't cure TDS.

        • +3

          Especially if you're a quadraped

      • +1

        Chlorine dioxide is not bleach lol

        • +4

          But it is used for bleaching, right?

          Maybe Trump just wanted us to have a serious discussion about the misunderstood word bleach and start a philosophical discussion about the meaning of words in general…. I think I am starting to turn to him…

      • Trump isn't a doctor or have the required medical knowledge to describe what he tried to say and yet people still taking him seriously

  • +28

    op chooses this as his first post in 6 years. at least op came back from the dead unlike this guys uncle was supposed to

    • +7

      At least the conspiracy theories behind the jfk assassination have some evidence and believability. This Kennedy is next level nutto.

      • +4

        amen

      • -1

        At least the conspiracy theories behind the jfk assassination have some evidence and believability.

        Err no. Unless you think Oliver Stone is a documentary maker.

  • +18

    73 clicks and counting the red pilling has started.
    well done OP

    • +13

      I think you mean the triggering has started…

      • +6

        Yes, nothing like getting some healthy debate and critical thinking from the OZB community.

        • +21

          Interesting interpretation of critical thinking

          • +4

            @Igaf: Critical thinking is the analysis of available facts.
            Facts are the vax didn't and doesn't prevent transmission.
            Pfizer execs even said they didn't test for it.
            Natural immunity is better than any vax.
            but long time before you will see it on our Australian media.

            • +13

              @boo hoo: Yes, Natural Immunity is as good (likely better) than vax immunity. However, you do need to survive the virus to get Natural Immunity.

              So weighing the benefits of the vaccine is a completely different decision depending on if you've already had the virus or not.

              • +9

                @tbard:

                However, you do need to survive the virus to get Natural Immunity.

                You're just not critical thinking hard enough :)

                • @SBOB: Lol… I'll do better :P

            • +14

              @boo hoo: The sheer stupidity of saying "This thing didn't do what it wasn't designed to do" with a straight face is impressive.

            • +6

              @boo hoo: You can’t test transmission without deliberately infecting people. They did test reduction in contracting the virus, within the first few months of vaccination (because longer takes longer to test obviously) and all the vaccines were in the high 90s for the Alpha strain. That’s pretty good really, especially the nearly 100% reduction in death. Natural immunity was also shown to wear off quickly, even famous people like Dokovic had it twice within a few months ‘naturally’.

              Fact is if people don’t contract the virus or have less symptoms it does reduce transmission. Does it prevent it 100%? No, no vaccine does, especially for a virus that mutates like Covid. But unvaccinated crowd is provably 20x more likely to die of Covid, something remarkable considering the unvaccinated are much more likely to be young and healthy,

              But yes, it’s a natural death. You can naturally get heart problems and long Covid too. And how sure people seem to be that precious Covid infections won’t cause problems in 20 years time…

            • +6

              @boo hoo: oh lord.

              You're aware the vaccine wasn't designed to stop transmission yes?

              Do you know how vaccines work?

              It was meant to keep people out of hospitals, reserving the hospital load for those that cant avoid is (e.g. elderly / vulnerable).

              Its not meant to make you immune to the disease.

              Don't mix up what the politicians / news media who have nothing more than an arts degree say, compared to the actual scientists…

            • +11

              @boo hoo: Your facts are distorted, intentionally.
              - No respected health expert that I'm aware of has ever suggested that covid vaccines PREVENT transmission . All the advice I read and saw suggested that they REDUCED transmission, serious illness, hospitalisation, and death.
              - Pfizer wasn't asked to test transmission rates because the aim of the vaccines was to prevent serious illness and death, and there was an OBVIOUS urgent imperative for vaccines that save lives to be released. Even if they had the virus was already mutating so they'd have to retest.
              - Your last "fact" is not a fact at all. There are so many variables that it's impossible to be definitive about "natural immunity" V covid vaccines. At best we can may be able to draw some statistical conclusions given certain conditions and individual responses. Early in the UK pandemic PHE published statistics (based on surveys iirc) which suggested that covid-acquired immunity was better than a single shot of AZ and that having had covid then having a vax shot was significantly better protection again.
              https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13389358/redir
              Health officials and epidemiologists dealt with and responded to what they knew and what statistics were telling them at the time. It's as plain as the nose on your face that there was ALWAYS going to be significantly better information after the pandemic had "dissipated", and after myriad studies had been published on the efficacy of vaccines, country responses, the effects on different races, sexes, ages, blood groups, etc . This is how science works. It's a trap for young and moreso ideologically-blind players to jump on studies which might now confirm their prejudices because it will be many years before we have definitive and broadly agreed conclusions, if in fact that happens at all.

            • +1

              @boo hoo: The logic seems to be an all or nothing. If it doesn't stop it, then it must be useless. Except that when you do nothing, it often leads to a worse outcome. As denoted by number of deaths experienced when comparing the US with the rest of the world.

              If you look beyond the vaccine policies and compare it with other policies that was an all or nothing approach, you see very similar results. Vaccines were a mitigation strategy, along with masks and social distancing. The combination showed highly effective.

        • +5

          Conspiracy theorists often confuse contrarianism with critical thinking. They are not the same thing.

    • +18

      only problem is the target audience for this book dont know how to read

    • +3

      On Amazon, the book itself has an overall rating of 5 stars by over 22,000 reviews. What's the comments here? It's been said that good medicine is bitter medicine.

      • +4

        Yeah, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.

        That’s why I’ve been shooting myself with small calibre bullets so I build up an immunity to bigger bullets.

        Bleach is bitter isn’t it?

  • +1

    Fauci:
    "I can't guarantee everything that's going on in the Wuhan lab. We can't do that"

    "So, you don't want to go to Hoboken, New Jersey or to Fairfax, Virginia to be studying the bat-human interface thay might lead to an outbreak. So you go to China"

    What he is implying is that American lives matter, but Chinese lives are dispensable.

    Given his understanding of the SARS virus, it's astounding that he would assume that an outbreak of such a deadly virus (possibly human enhanced) could be contained within China and not turned into a global pandemic.

    Fauci:
    "It is our obligation, as scientists and public health individuals, to study the animal-human interface … "

    No, the foremost obligation of public health individuals is to safeguard the health and safety of the general public, not to conduct dangerous research in a foreign laboratory that you have no way of guaranteeing that the deadly virus won't escape.

    • +4

      No, the foremost obligation of public health individuals is to safeguard the health and safety of the general public, not to conduct dangerous research in a foreign laboratory that you have no way of guaranteeing that the deadly virus won't escape.

      So many assumptions and misconceptions in that statement it's hard to know where to start. Is the Wuhan Virology lab accredited to international safety standards? Are you seriously suggesting that studies of deadly viruses etc shouldn't happen?
      You might be interested in these articles:
      https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2017.21487
      https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/australian-scientist-the-s…
      https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/31…

      The 2017 Nature article talks about potential issues, including cukture etc.

      Out of interest what are your medical credentials?

      • -1

        Wow so it was legit afterall? So it was engineered in a lab and spread from there? They said it was a bat virus from the markets originally. Still letting that sink in if true.

        • +3

          Your deductions make no sense. Par for the course.

          • @Igaf: Enlighten. I just read the above post where it seemed validation to what the conspiracy theorists had been saying all along - covid engineered in lab, i remember we were told it came from bats at a food market. Which is it?

            • +2

              @dingaling2: Im not your nappy changer and you shouldnt be relying on what some anonymous person (even thats not certain these days) on a bargain website. Read the links. Then google your question and read more.

              There has been further investigation about the source of the virus outbreak. Suffice to say that while no-one can say definitively, the Huanan market should feature prominently in your search results.

              • +1

                @Igaf: Just because something shows up prominently in search results doesn't make it true lol…

                • +1

                  @sintro: No kidding. Thats why you need to read, then read some more. Eventually youll get the hang of it, lol. It was an obvious hint to someone who asked a question he/she could easily have resolved with 5 minutes effort.

                  • @Igaf: Yeah, official narratives are like RRP.
                    I would consistently look for a better price + cash backs + use discount vouchers. LOL

                    • +1

                      @sintro: And given your apparent gullibility you'd be the perfect target for scammers. The arrogance, and ignorance of that comparison would be astounding but Ive seen it time and time again. Its par for the course in a particular demographic. The same people apparently trust that engineering structures are safe, that planes can fly, that number systems make sense etc but rate their own clearly ignoramt opinions over those of experts.

                      But what to do when some experts say A while others say maybe A, maybe B, and other contrarians say X? Simple answer, look for consensus and evidence. Its not 'rocket surgery'.

              • @Igaf: Nice handball there Igaf lol. For someone very opinionated and seems to think they know, cant enlighten me but pass me off to googles selected/not censored results.

                • +1

                  @dingaling2: I know what I know, and no more, but Im always interested in learning more from reliable sources on topics which interest me. You on the other hand know only what a closed conspiratorial mind allows you to know and cant conceive that you might be wrong or that reputable experts might know more than you ever will, even if they are imperfect (hence my 'consensus' comment).

                  • @Igaf: No, I'm just going off the info supplied from all sources I don't censor my mind to any of it i want to know both sides to make a judgement. I try to keep out of it to be honest. And the above poster presented new information seemingly showing the "conspiracy theorists" were actually correct from the very start.

                    You said something without clarifying, I asked for you to enlighten me, or at least explain from your response and then you handballed/deflected/lashing out at me.

                    • +1

                      @dingaling2: If you'd read the links you wouldnt have made your very wrong deduction https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13410773/redir , and if you'd bothered to do a simple search you'd have known the answer. Clear now?

                      Your 'not censored' comment is suggestive if not instructive, as are your upvotes.

                      • @Igaf: Read the articles. Where was I wrong? Only that what was once considered a conspiracy theory is now conspiracy fact? Those articles are just confirming what i said above.

    • Regardless of the source (likely human-boosted & China target), the US population was the biggest laboratory for letting the virus practice & mutate.
      ~105 mil infected & ~15.5% of the world infections (>3-4x the world avg)

  • +26

    Seems overpriced.

    • Lol. Any lower and it’ll be approaching your iq after you’ve read this drivel.

  • +10

    Lol at all of the invalid negs because certain people are butthurt that a contrary opinion exists. Will the mods police them according to the rules, like in every other deal? Anything but adherence to the site rules only confirms bias…watch this space.

    • -4

      in my experience, the mods rarely ever police according to the rules

      • You should write a book about this unjust travesty conspiracy .

        • +32

          And this right here is why upvoting mods comments should be allowed ;)

        • +3

          What happened to "Whether you are a new user or long time representative, you will get treated equally. Every vote, comment, and post is audited for any irregularities.". Does Devlu endorse political bias being reflected in your work? Is this fostering an environment that encourages users to contribute, regardless of their opinions about a particular subject?

          • +1

            @The Judge: People poke fun at each other in almost every post without punishment from mods. Being treated equally is what’s happening here

        • +1

          Thanks for proving his point Neil

          • @scrappydoo: Yeah the silence is deafening. Better the devil we know though. With reddit at least you can assume the mods are biased one way or the other (often in your own favour) but I would have expected more professionalism from paid employees.

        • i don't really care about it, just pointing out an observation.

        • This is not the type of moderating comment I'd expect. You're clearly showing a side while I think the comment is valid. I've sent so many deal negs always removed because they don't adhere, I've never seen ozb actually have this many neg votes at one time.

          • @cookie2:

            This is not the type of moderating comment I'd expect.

            Always here to please.

            You're clearly showing a side while I think the comment is valid.

            Hopefully my good side.

            I've sent so many deal negs always removed because they don't adhere, I've never seen ozb actually have this many neg votes at one time.

            Please read this Voting Guidelines:

            If anything just this one sentence is the thing that people miss:

            Inappropriate uses of negative vote
            Any negative vote that falls into any of these reasons will be revoked by a moderator. Negative votes for any other reason will not be removed by a moderator. These are verbatim phrases.

            Emphasis on verbatim.

            Please do send me links of where moderators removed votes that don't adhere to voting guidelines. Most of the time if votes are removed, the community is the one removing them by voting negative against the comment.

            I've never seen ozb actually have this many neg votes at one time.

            Going through negative votes is a long process especially when there are more pressing issues to deal with. They will be dealt with but may not be immediately or even today or tomorrow. Update: I went through all of them.

    • 👁️

    • +9

      Like the invalid book for $$$ which people are too stupid to see is exploiting cookers for money. People too stupid to understand statistics without them being cherry picked and presented as contrary opinion.

      People can go around telling kids if they throw themselves off buildings and believe it they will fly, but like this that’s just dangerous misinformation. People can have different opinions but this is different facts from reality twisted for profit because people feel a need to believe they know a secret, when instead they’re just too stupid to realize exactly who it is manipulating them.

      • +5

        Oh so you're saving people from themselves? All of this sarcasm, sneering & downright disdain is just altruism underneath?

        • +2

          Ironic from someone that believes someone selling lies for profit. And complaining about people using the negative vote EXACTLY as per the rules is ‘butthurt’. A lot of butthurt from people upset the lockdowns weren’t indefinite like they insisted they would be.

          • +4

            @JumperC: It's a free ebook. Zero cost. What part of that is not clear?

            • -1

              @The Judge: See this is the problem, people who don’t read that it is free for a week how can they be expected to concentrate long enough to understand a whole book. Let alone fact check it.

              The reason they make books free for a short time is to get them trending, so they boost sales on a book that has started lagging.

              This is how the machine works, tell a small part of something that is true, while hiding that if you saw the whole picture you’d realise their motive is to sell you lies for profit.

              • +3

                @JumperC: And they have the nerve to call people who are upvoting this "conspiracy theorists".

              • +1

                @JumperC: @JumperC, your conspiracy theory on why these books are free is wrong.

                OP already mentioned it in the post.

                "Jill and I want everyone to have free access to the information contained in these three books. I was able to convince my publisher, Tony Lyons, to make this happen. The electronic versions of the three books listed above will be free on Amazon from Monday, February 20th through Monday, February 27th. I urge you to download them and read them carefully so that you can better understand what’s happened to our country, our freedom, and our health. Hopefully, this will help wake up those still suffering the effects of the massive PsyOps campaign which has been deployed on all of us during the COVIDcrisis, and to jumpstart the process of working towards solutions."

                https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1627728325606051843?s=…

    • Well said.

    • It's fine to have alternative opinions, but these kind of books are likely to be full of 'alternative facts'.

    • Lol at all of the invalid negs

      Voting Guidelines. Please read the whole thing of course but if you can just read this one sentence please:

      Inappropriate uses of negative vote
      Any negative vote that falls into any of these reasons will be revoked by a moderator. Negative votes for any other reason will not be removed by a moderator. These are verbatim phrases.

      Emphasis on verbatim.

      Also for everyone that reported the deal we've sent this back:

      Moderation does not qualify a user's comments as correct or not, we aren't the arbiters of truth. Please use the voting and/or reply function, to counter comments that you feel are incorrect or that you disagree with. Thanks

      If it's not a controversial book, it's caged eggs, or something religious, or stickers on a bin, etc. We really don't give a shit if people like this book or not. What we do give a shit about is accusations of staff members not doing the right thing.

      • -1

        Perhaps you need to examine the motivations behind such accusations then Neil. They didn't just coalesce into this particular post, for no particular reason. If you want to be viewed as impartial & professional then maybe reconsider your responses. Again, I wonder aloud if the way you've conducted yourself in this thread would be considered rational, reasonable & acceptable by an employer in any other scenario.

  • +12

    Critical thinking has become rare

    • +11

      As proven by the upvoters?

      • +10

        I mean isn't it okay to question ❓ these mega pharma's who's sole purpose is to make money ? Why do you think government has our best interests? Some questions to ponder 🤔 upon

        • +19

          Absolutely.
          But there's a vast ocean between contemplating and questioning in a rational and educated way, compared to the 'definitive' level of evidence, deduction, and 'truth' that books such as these jump to.

          There's no critical thinking at the extremes ;)

          • +2

            @SBOB: I actually read about half this book when it came out. You'll find that because people think this way, most of the book is supporting evidence..

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