Its finally arrived, Netflix has rolled out its password sharing controls across Australia. Now, if you want to share your account with someone outside of your household, you will need to pay an extra $7.99 per person.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-25/netflix-password-shar…
Interested to know what other ozbargainers are going to be doing.
Didn't realise bikies waved the skull and crossbones.
If I was Netflix I’d just charge more per amount of devices that can be used.
I pay for the 4-screen option to get 4K on the limited content that supports it.
I use Screen 1. Mum and Dad use Screen 2. Screens 3 & 4 don't get used. I currently pay 200% of what gets used. I will pay 0% if they try to fleece me more.
I rarely use my own login, maybe 1 or 2 hours a month. The primary user of my login is my mum. Going to be a tough conversation lol 😂
I’m definitely going to be cancelling. I already have a very big boat on the high seas anyway so no real loss for me. My mum uses my boat too so she can just ask me for anything specific going forward.
I think the biggest loss we’re seeing going forward is the streaming services dropping full seasons at once. I really don’t like watching stuff week to week and sailing the seas doesn’t fix that.
I have dipped my toes in the sea recently for the first time in a while. The seas have matured and you can obtain very high quality stuff. I'm thinking a NAS (with Jellyfin or whatever people are saying) is in my future.
The multiple price rises and other hoops introduced by Netflix (Stan, Amazon and Disney too to a lesser extent) is off-putting. Prices of all the services add up yet it's not easy finding which service has what you want and a lot of the time none of them have what you want. They also censor scenes or provide crappy foreign cuts sometimes eg the inferior US cut of Austin Powers International Man of Mystery.
My favourite subscription is my Argentinian Tidal Hi-Fi Plus Family plan for $1.50pm. I am ecstatic to pay that. If they ever pull the plug on it then I will sail the seas instead of paying the $35.99pm they ask for in Australia.
I cancelled my Netflix sub back when they first announced it was going to be implemented.
Given I only watched 1-2 things a year, it was a huge waste of money anyway.
Sorry former housemate, you're on your own.
If the Turkey option still exists, I'll create a new Turkey account for my parents that use my account.
It still comes out cheaper than paying the $7.99 for an additional account, unless the Turkey additional account holder is much less than that.
In short, I have no idea how it will affect Turkey account holders.
Turkish accounts aren't affected by password sharing as of yet but they have cracked down on people signing up to Turkish accounts. People are getting location lockouts.
I see people saying this but have only seen one person say it happened to them, is there more verification that this is a real issue for “foreign” accounts?
Maybe drop a tier and pay the extra, not sure yet. I’m only paying for the top tier because I’m sharing with family.
You can't drop below the standard tier - adding an extra person is not available in the Basic or Ad tiers.
I’m on $22.99 plan, for 4 users, in case everyone needs it at the same time. I can definitely drop.
Yeah that’s fair - just be aware you can only add one person to the standard plan for the extra cost.
Depending on your TV, your best bet may be to keep at the premium tier and add 2 extra accounts, then split it 3 ways. This will end up costing costing $12.99 each a month which is only 50c more than the $12.49 it would cost each if you were to drop to standard plan and add one extra user (splitting bill 2 ways).
For 50c more you end up with more screens and 4K+ HDR, if that's important to you.
Edit: It does seem like the extra accounts only get access to one screen at a time though and I don't think it adds and extra screens to your account.
Already cancelled our plan after my partner and I realized we rarely ever view anything on Netflix anymore.
If and when something does pop up, we'll just sign up as required, rather than let it perpetually debit us.
We used to share a long time ago with a friend or two, but those we shared with left to set up accounts with their own siblings or family members…welp they got some figuring out to do.
Hoist the colors!
Kodi has it all for free 🤣🤭
Wtf? I don't understand why people are cancelling because their mates/families aren't getting free netflix anymore. It has nothing to do with them personally. If others outside their household want cheap netflix, give $8/month to the account holder.
Our extended family have a big daisy chain of streaming, with us providing Netflix we are provided pretty much every other streaming platform.
Account costs are often shared, not freeloaders. So the cost of a premium account might have been split 4 ways which only cost each user under $6 a month. Since we can only add 2 additional accounts to premium account, its basically going to more than double in price for each user (reduced to 3 users instead of 4).
Have never shared the account but have been viewing it less of late. Going to cancel regardless of these changes. Will probably watch more ABC and SBS online. Likely return when there's some more attractive content.
Not sure why people are salty for Netflix doing the right thing. They allowed to share password for so long. Now that they don't they are the bad guys.
Because password sharing was an intentional part of their business model? 4 screens meant 4 screens, and "family" was never "household", 4 screens in the same household was not the original interpretation.
They only changed their policy in response to lack of growth, password sharing was completely fine until they decided that it wasn't.
LOL did you see the reply by Uno? 😂
John Doh
Cue the D'oh! after he realises how dumb his comment was.
My comment ain't dumb at all. Probably 10 of you shared a single account and you are salty it's getting stopped.
I explained my situation above. I see you failed to read the thread. D'oh! indeed.
I've had this text message:
https://i.imgur.com/QVX1s6l.png
If its just sms's then I can use tasker to forward particular sms's to a email then give everyone access to that email I am hoping.
If i didn't see this, I would have just assumed it's a scam text o.O
At some point their system will detect that tv's from differnet IP addresses are accessing the service and they will ask you to explain why. Im sure they have done their home work on how to stop people gaming the system. I mean for all the hassle, netflix really isnt worth it imo. Just cheaper to sub to the ad plan every 3-4 months and not deal with the hassles.
You could buy (or maybe you have already) a supported router and split tunnel the streaming services' traffic to an Aussie server VPN. Your family members use this same setup, probably along with many others, and nobody can ever tell who lives with lives where. There's probably counters to this, like mixing the domain names up they use.
I think the whole crackdown in general will make them massively unpopular though, especially at a time when a lot of people are stretched thin. They are not the cheapest and more people will drop them than pay the extra, meaning a net loss of revenue.
oh well back to torrent.
In-laws share us their Netflix in return for our Prime video. We can't justify the cost of Netflix given we watch it about once a week and wouldn't really miss it. I wouldn't even bother to sub 2-3mths/year like we do for Disney+.
Lol she gone, too expensive for the top tier, aint dropping the plan for low res, able to buy a fews bevs instead aye
What Netflix forgets is you can torrent all the content; avoid the woke, weird and offensive shite your now presented with; still no adds
& it’s free… I’ll keep Prime for the TV and delivers and just wait until a series end; & binge it
It is not woke or weird when you pirate it over watching it on netflix? How does it work?
PLEX :)
Apparently when they did this elsewhere (New Zealand?), after an initial drop in subscriptions those losses were recovered fairly quickly.
Well so they say. I mean they arent the most transparent of companies now are they? They arent really going to turn around and say well that was a big mistake. They have gone all in and are willing to take the hit regardless i guess. They have made a big hoopla over it so unlikely they will back down over it. My guess is they wil probably end up at the same point they were at before they implemented the crackdown. With individual accounts its much easier to just cancel without it inconvenicing others sharing a plan. Thats what i will end up doing. Not to mention there will be further price rises i the coming year so lets see how that plays out for them.
You raise an excellent point. For many years I have wanted to cancel O365 family and just use OpenOffice and my local storage setup here, but the fact my extended family uses it makes me renew every year.
Frustrating when you find a solution that others will never be on board with.
Cancelled and just torrented 80 Gb worth of things to watch. It's been years Anime, hello again.
Love the narrative here that Netflix will lose out from this, and all those people going to piracy can "justify" it.
That's what's going to happen though. Not everyone maybe but many will. It was barely worth it before when I was splitting the bill with 2 others, now it's just not and I'll cancel. I will happily watch Prime , and torrent those couple of series / movies a year I actually want to watch, and maybe go back to the movies for a change. Definitely not worth paying Netflix $22/month for that… Bye!
Really seems like short sighted money grab, they are going to pay dearly for it.
This isn't 2010, I've already got two other streaming services and access to plenty more. Netflix isn't even the best option these days.
Time to start sharing content via a VPN server and split tunnel. Netflix won’t the the last to do this method of money grab.
We have game servers, we have vpn servers for privacy, soon we’ll have vpn server offerings for “family” streaming (ie the easy way - no coding or config required).
Friend recommended Vultr.
I don't understand what the problem is. You people are all earning $250,000 per annum. You can afford $10/month. Stop being parsimonious penny-pinchers. Next year Albo will give you a $11,000 pay rise, Stage 3 Tax Cuts. You have absolutely not reason to complain.
Not sure if you are being serious or not? If you are then you have a serious disconnect between fantasy and reality. Many of us earn much. much , much less then 250 k a year. Ive been on the same wage for the last 5 years as a self employed. There is only so much work you can do a day and there comes a point where you price your self out of the market if you increase your rates.
It's a running joke that everyone on here earns loads of money.
Guess sailing the high seas is becoming more and more viable…
Who was ever paying for Netflix. Dallas Buyers Club v. iiNet found piracy to be effectively legal in Australia. I pay for Spotify, when every single tv show and movie is all on one platform like music has, I'll subscribe. Until then, I'm taking everything for free.
I will have to read up on that. I always thought iiNet (and customers) lost.
No, DBC wanted to issue speculative invoicing. The courts told them all they were allowed to collect from the pirates was the cost of a digital rental. This in effect made any legal action for any copyright claim totally pointless, and in effect made piracy legal due to the inability of content owners to enforce copyright.
Good news.
Same here, not worth when most movies and series I want to watch are always on other platforms… Netflix, Amazon, Stan, Binge, Paramount, Apple, Mubi, Disney… wtf? you are 100% right, when a platform with every movie and series will be available, like Spotify, I'll happily subscribe and even pay much more than I am currently. But currently to watch anything you'd have to pay hundreds per month, it's just silly. So I'll just go back to Amazon (which I have anyway) plus torrent for anything else
Wonder if this poll will be like the WFH poll. Everyone says they'll quit / cancel but actually people suck it up and go back to the office / keep subscribing.
I get billed through apple. Have not received an email from them or had anything come up on screen at this stage.
When i use my network that has Getflix on it, i can no longer access Netflix at this stage. Other US streamers like Hulu and Peacock work though.
The main thing I am worried about is travelling and then Netflix telling me I cannot watch MY subscription. Whether this be on the bus, interstate, on a plane, or overseas.
I know they are saying this will work but we all know that the location tracking will definitely get confused at some point and we will not be allowed to watch what WE are paying for.
This means I won't waste an hour each week failing to find something I want to watch.
Kodi and real debrid is a good option for those looking at alternatives
We didn't really watch much Netflix so left at the beginning of the year for an Amazon Prime membership. The value proposition is superior in every way if you don't have particular shows that you must watch. Might consider resubscribing for a month or so when the next Stranger Things comes out.
NetFlix Sucks
Netflix is hot garbage anyway. I dont remember anything i watch on netflix, afterwards
Yeah , always found netflix originals quite mediocre, bar some rare exceptions. HBO for example is on another level in terms of quality..
Right now I'm using my Dad's account (I already gave him $50/year to contribute)
If I try to use Netflix on Samsung Smart TV I get the warning now and I can't continue.
However I can still watch Netflix on my PC and Galaxy phone (Netflix App)
All on the same IP address
It seems like it's only targeting smart tv for now
How is this going to work without restricting the account holder from only using the service from their billing address?
Quoting Netflix "You can easily watch Netflix on the go and when you travel – either on your personal devices or a TV at a hotel or holiday home.
Because it looks like they are doing an 2FA challenge by sending a code/confirmation link to the account holders email
Thanks. For family/friends this seems pretty easy to defeat then, probably more an annoyance than anything else.
I thankfully have an email just for Netflix…can give fam and friends passwords. Is it that easy?
Not care and just stream from other online sources.
I didn't realise so many people were sharing Netflix accounts - I've always had my own. Partly because my daughter often streams at the same time.
You can stream on multiple screens at the same time if you are on a higher tier plan.
I hope this change doesn't come to Turkey.
If I don't agree with their reclassification of what is and isn't allowed when it comes to where my account can be viewed, can I request my account to be closed and all credit returned to me?
Check out gamsgo. I usually do monthly sub and watch everything I want. It's around $6 for a 4k shared account profile.
thanks , hadnt seen this service. Going to try a US paramount account as it has much more content.
Not sure how this service is going to deal with the Netflix crackdown though. Im guessing if all account Ip’s dont eventually line up at the same home address then the account will be flagged.
Trying to figure out if switching to Turkey (creating mew account there) is going to help. :|
creating mew account there
Don't think Netflix cares much about the cats.
Not sharing our connection with anyone anyway so dont care.
I use Kodi with real debrid service. can watch whatever i want whenever i want.
IPTV
We just got a “is this the main home account?” verification screen this morning.
We have two tvs in main household , the other two accounts are used by parents in aged care 5 minutes away.
Im guessing ill be getting a confused phone call from them today after they also get a verification popup.
Have had Netflix before it even launched in Australia , but personally use it so little now that i cant justify $40 bucks a month.
Will be cancelling and setting parents up with Binge. The app is clunky, but it has good content and is only $18.
Yar har, fiddle de dee. Being a pirate is alright with me!
I quite enjoy having Netflix and my account is shared with two other relatives. I will likely move Netflix to a rotation of subscriptions now rather than keeping it all the time. For now, I've just logged out all non-home devices.
Also, good motivation to get my full sized Plex server running again. Netflix have pulled all one or two shows recently before I managed to get around to watching them.
This must be a success for them overall given the roll out has already succeeded in another country. Netflix is all about big data, so they would be closely watching analytics and would only be doing this of profitable. I'm guessing ozbargainers are largely an edge case.
I dunno how this will work out…. the quality seems to have gone downhill in NZ after they restricted account sharing there.
Just get Mubi for kino and fmovies everything else
Mubi from Turkey, I may add 👍🏻
Didn't know that was possible!
Yep, and you can pay annually so no surprises for a whole year. When I did it few months back I paid roughly $35 for the year.
Just connect with a VPN, it's quite easy and I used a regular Aussie credit card. For the VPN I just used a free one from the PlayStore (this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.secure.hot…) as nordvpn for some reason does not really work with Turkey
Is it possible they can only apply this to TV type devices and are leaving tablets, phones and laptops alone due to people wanting to roam.
They couldn't want to validate everytime someone roaming switched IP, that would have to get expensive itself in larger countries. And if it's devices they're checking it wouldn't be hard to register non-household devices on occasion.
Just cancelled my Netflix sub tonight. All this did was serve to remind me how little I use the service. It was fine splitting the cost four ways, because their HD is 4x overpriced. I would have kept it otherwise, even if not using it that much.
No option in poll to drop back to a lower tier plan which is probably what I will end up doing. We don’t currently make use of the 4K anyway as our main tv is only 1080p.
I find it interesting that whenever anyone comes on here moaning about speeding tickets or other fines they get shouted down by the majority, every time, and told they broke the rules so have to accept the outcome.
Yet essentially stealing from Netflix is positively celebrated and attempts to close the loophole frowned upon.
Fine if you think Netflix is overpriced, but the double standard here is notable.
Touched a few nerves here I see!
I stand by my statement about double standards.
Lol,
dumb people get their brain washed in front of the idiot box.
Others profit from a rocking boat.
NFLX does rock!