3070 for the price of 3060. why say lots word when few word do the trick
according to the email I got overnight it dropped $50.
P.S. KO version with nicer RGB and looking more fancy overall is $607.62, it's not OC however, but for some people looks are worth more than a few extra MHz
P.P.S KO version arrived - it is indeed OC. my mistake, V2 of KO is always OC edition. that's good I suppose lol
with a wider memory bus, yes
Nah, 4060 Ti is much better…with DLSS3…in the games that have DLSS3…
When you don't have the raw power, just fake it up DLSS.
at what resolution tho..
Nice copium
It seems a surprising number of people don't seem to understand that I'm saying the 4060 Ti is only sort of decent if you factor in DLSS 3…and only for the ~two dozen games that support it.
I was tossing up between the 6700xt or at a push 6800xt.
Is this thing comparable to either?
How'd it go with 1440p or 4k gaming? Thanks for the feedback in advance.
I was in a similar boat and got the 6700xt from another ebay plus deal.
The 6700xt and this 3070 seem pretty similar in performance according to Tom's Hardware, but the 7600xt is $100 cheaper and is 12gb vram. More vram is meant to generally be better according to the internet. If you want ray tracing and DLSS etc. then you should consider that also.
The irony is ray tracing requires a significant amount of VRAM and Nvidia's superior ray tracing hardware is being severely hampered by the VRAM stinginess on their 8GB GPUs in more recent games and probably all new titles going forward.
People rightly complain that there is some pretty poor optimisation in new games, but VRAM usage is not gonna be getting better. PS5 and XSX each have ~16GB GDDR6 shared memory and are typically using 10 to 12GB as VRAM. Developers are obviously going to target that
8GB cards will be obviously fine for plenty of fantastic prior games, but going forward I would not recommend purchasing any 8GB GPU unless it is a very cheap budget GPU where you will be fine playing newer games and future releases at lower than console settings particularly with regard to resolution, textures, render distance etc. (all of which have a massive impact on the image quality you see in a game).
It is frankly unfortunate that cards like the 4060 Ti 8GB are being released at MSRPs of $729 but this single component of a whole PC costs more than an entire current gen console (which were all released in 2020) yet will provide poorer image quality.
rasterization: better than 6700 XT across titles that don't use more than 8 GB of VRAM
Honestly, if you only game and don't care about RT and not picky about image quality (I personally prefer NVIDIA because of the image output), go with 6800 XT, will last you until your next build.
Yup, the output processing of nvidia is very noticeable to me in a significant way.
I thought i was imagining it until the 3 mates I upgraded with (we got a "bulk" lot of ex miner gpu's) all commented the same thing, without prompting.
3070 is a touch faster in many games but really its margin of error stuff most of the time. Pros are the drivers are more consistent for applications like Yuzu but that won't matter for 99% of games. DLSS is better but I doubt you'd miss it after using FSR2 for a while.
The elephant in the room is vram, if it had 12gb or 16gb it'd be viable for 4 more years no question and its ray tracing advantage would actually matter. At 8gb new PS5 ports were crashing on high settings, after patches they don't crash anymore but textures won't load in time in titles like Hogwarts Legacy, TLOU and RE4re; ray tracing is still a no go. Even though these games are playable the 3070's 1% lows are much worse and result in what can be percived as stuttering. Everyone is anticipating it will only get worse as cross gen (PS4-PS5) titles are phased out and PS5 becomes the base spec developers work towards.
With a bit of compromise 6700xt will do 4K games at 60, definately at 30. The 6800/6800xt is like 900 at its cheapest new, 2x the price of the 6700xt for at best a 30% more frames depending on title; I honestly think its too expensive. At 900 for a 6800xt whats an extra 200 to get a 6950xt? or 300 for a 7900xt? The 7900xt is about the same 30%+ performance difference over the 6800xt at 4K, might even be better price to performance in Australia. At that point you are spending until you hit performance you want.
To me you are betting on getting by with the 6700xt which will give you a good experience at 1440p and some very forgivable compromises at 4K, maybe selling the card for a new generation when you find titles the 6700xt struggles too much at 4k with. Or paying a lot more now for a 7900xt tier product because your requirements are a 4K ultra/epic settings card and holding onto it for longer.
This or the 6750xt?
192 bit bus on 6750xt, but more vram 12gb
256 bit bus on 3070, less vram 8gb
theoretical performance slightly higher on 3070, but IMO 8gb is a bit low in 2023
Is the extra $50 worth it for the DLSS and ray tracing on the 3070?
depends on your intended application
if gaming only, 6750xt is more future proof thanks to moar VRAM included
if you would like to also edit photos or do video encoding, NVIDIA is better thanks to tensor cores (vital for AI) and hardware encoder
from experience also NVIDIA gaming output is nicer, so if you play games where aesthetics mean a lot to you, NVIDIA is better choice
also DLSS has better quality than AMD FSR.
all in all no straightforward answer here, depends on what's your preference
5 months ago it was a deal at $799. Thank goodness prices are moving in the right direction at last!
inevitable with latest releases. 3000 GPUs should drop even more
Price is ok but still not good enough, 8gb VRAM GPU shouldn't cost more than $400. I will avoid 8Gb VRAM if I am playing games at or above 1080P high/ultra setting, as no one know 8gb VRAM is enough for 1 or 2 years new games released.
these are the cards for the people with huge pile of shame accumulated in Epic and Steam accounts
why chase games not released yet if you can enjoy all the amazing games released in the past 3 years, business class
if you are worried about those poorly optimised console ports, get a console instead, the whole system is cheaper than a future proofed GPU alone
P.S. I also have an Xbox Series X, the only thing I find Xbox not suitable for is FPS games, this is what I tend to play on PC exclusively
any deals on the RTX a2000?
around 660 with code, same seller
Dang thats expensive. Amazon is $549
not bad at all says I
That Office reference always gives me a chuckle.
Pretty telling the low amount of upvotes this has. Members here aren't liking the real deals. Shameful
in this price bracket and with 8gb vram jumpscares everyone reaches for 6700XT and saves some money
or goes for 4070 for real gainz
or goes for 4060 Ti for novelty and hope of performance gainz once games are optimised for 40x0 gen
me, I don't buy promises
Good point. I think the vram between the 2 models is heavily overstated though. One is 8GB the other 12GB but it's not as simple as that.
The 3070 has a 256bit bus & the 6700xt 192 bit. 3070 has 448 GB/s memory bandwidth & the 6700xt 384GB/s
So while there's less memory it can transfer more data at once as well as larger chunks. Which is technically better. Think of it as having 2 buckets (one 8 litre the other 12 litre), The 12 litre is being filled with a trickle of water whilst the 8 litre is a full running tap. Quicker to fill and a wider stream, just less capacity.
So even where low bandwidth isn't an issue (1080p) you'll never really need 12gb anyway. You can definitely use it in 1440p but when the bandwidth becomes a bottleneck the gpu will have to do an extra clock back to the memory. AMD have a new thing called infinity cache, where it chucks cache between the gpu/mem lanes or something like that so this clock is quicker than going back to the memory. If you're playing a game that banks textures and doesn't access them as often the 6700xt would be better. But if there's a constant relationship between gpu and core and constant texture rewriting then 3070 would be better. Also more smaller texture packs banked on the memory would better suit 6700xt than say less bigger texture packs (like rtx high res etc).
personally I think 3070 is >> 6700xt overall, except for VRAM size. bus is wider, output is smoother, drivers are better, DLSS >> FSR
not talking about RT as it's barely usable in 3070, really need 3080 for RT unless you play in 1080p exclusively. I have a 4k monitor, so I tend to play 1440p maxed out or moderate 4k for things where I need to avoid upscaling
for a lot of great games VRAM doesn't really matter even up to 4k, and with DLSS can even be tackled at 4k where it becomes challenging. plus CUDA, plus encoder - NVIDIA is a better choice for someone who need to process photos / videos on the same machine used for gaming
6700xt is a strong 1440p card, but 3070 can give you a very much playable 4k
and if you're worried about those console ports running out of VRAM - come on, get a console, play it there, that's what it was created for. like I mentioned above, I play only FPS games on PC exclusively, plus a couple games where using a mouse is a must. the rest plays great on Xbox Series X, which had a lot of great deals lately, and cheap game pass deals were great.
KO edition arrived. beauty of a card. it is indeed an OC edition
pretty happy with 3070 KO
before this I had 6700 and 6800 in my machine. while I was happy with 6700 for 1440p gaming, and pretty happy with 6800 for 4k, my biggest complaint about those cards was coil whine and other annoying noises the cards were making under various load. playing native resolution was fine most of the time, but strong coil whine appears in some game menus and also strong noise when enabling any sort of scaling (FSR or ASR) which was required for smooth experience in some of my favorite games. I could hear it even with headphones on, it was super annoying.
in comparison, 3070 is just as good in 4k, and is QUIET the only noise you get is smooth cooler noise, that's IT, I'll take that any day.
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Rtx 4060ti, is it you?