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  hectic3 on 23/08/2012 - 11:29

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  Why does the link go straight to a PayPal checkout screen?

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  zeomega on 23/08/2012 - 11:40

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  Tip. Shoot in RAW instead and you'll be saving $37.95. Instead of doing AWB, set it in Daylight (6000k/neutral) and then batch process for colour adjustments.

  Never believed in such stuff and still don't. Just a personal opinion.

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    zeomega on 23/08/2012 - 12:12

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    LoL. Someone obviously doesn't agree. Give me some good reasons, don't be a mouse warrior, at least be a keyboard warrior. I'll give you some.

    Raw advantages:
    4 stops (+-2stops) average lattitude for post processing work (depending on your brand).
    Ability to correct white balance for the whole photo and selective bits (imagine working under tungsten + floro). Photographers DON't always get to control lighting.

    RAW disadvantage:
    Size

    Inverse all that for jpeg. Also remember that price of storage is cheap these days. So Size is not a problem.

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      hectic3 on 23/08/2012 - 13:20

      Totally agree with you. I shot at a wedding where there were 3 light sources with different color temps and it was a nightmare.

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    pommyjox on 23/08/2012 - 13:32

    This tool is useful for RAW as well. You don't need to load this as a custom white balance in camera. You take the pic with it and then load that with the rest of your pics in say lightroom. Then use the eye dropper on this to get a corrected custom whitebalance which you can then apply to that group of RAW pics….same as if you take a snap of a grey card for later processing. Pretty much as u say but this way you don't have to fiddle around with sliders to get/guess what u want. It all depends if complete accurate white balance is a priority.

    This tool does have a use if you are taking a lot of pics under different or changing light conditions and can save a LOT of time in post processing fiddling around with sliders or trying to find some neutral color to get a profile from.

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      zeomega on 23/08/2012 - 15:26

      I am lost.

      So you obviously know how to use the dropper tool to set the WB. How does this item come into play? As i said, don't use AWB, use a fixed WB of daylight (6000k) which is the mid point. Once imported into LR you can batch process based on FIRST photo (in the light conditions) you WB because everything is FIXED at 6000k. Rather than having to do individual photos because AWB was having a fun time. There's no need for sliders at all (assuming you're setting neutral WB for the photos).

      What's the difference between setting a custom WB and using 6000k as the WB when you're shooting raw? A few mins to dig out this bulky thing, put it on, set custom WB and tuck it back vs 0 time spent (I leave it at 6000k all the time). Even if you had to set the WB to 6000k it takes 15 seconds max.

      This item is only useful if you're shooting jpeg. Period.

      I just saved you $37.95 (if you've not bought it yet) and hopefully you've learnt a new trick of the trade. :)

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        pommyjox on 23/08/2012 - 17:22

        quote 'I just saved you $37.95 (if you've not bought it yet) and hopefully you've learnt a new trick of the trade. :)'

        zeomega my friend. I am a professional photographer with over 20 years experience. I am presently a staff photographer and consultant with a reputable fashion magazine in Germany. Accurate colour management is my job but thanks for teaching me the tricks of the trade :)

        Firstly, do you even understand how to use a grey card or colour card to get correct WB? In its simplest form you take a photo of it with the ambient lighting that needs to be corrected. Then use the WB tool to sample it in your relevant RAW converter program and presto you have a corrected WB with both temperature AND tint. You can then apply this to the relevant photos….as you said batch process them. Using this advertised tool, when you take a picture with it in front of the lens (unless I am sadly mistaken) it will give you a copy equivalent to a corrected grey card. Both this or a grey card will then reflect the corrected white balance (to get truly accurate colour correction is a little more complicated but this is good enough for most uses) Simply take a new pic with this every time you change lighting conditions and you have a reference with which you can apply accurate colour balance.

        I think you are using a very shallow level of understanding or we are having a serious miscommunication. I am curious how you are adjusting WB after using the cameras daylight setting? You say you don't use the sliders to adjust so am I to assume you are happy with daylight WB for all your photos? Surely that can't be correct! Every single lighting condition throughout a day is different. If not how are you making corrections to apply to your images? Throwing sliders wildly around or clicking randomly with the WB tool in an attempt to find a neutral colour isn't the most accurate way of doing things, and leaving the colour balance set on daylight completely defies logic!

        A couple of other things to think about…this product and several other products along similar lines aren't made to pull the wool over peoples eyes. There is a reason for why these sell to both amateur and pro photographers. It does a job, whether it is of use to you or whether it even fits with your type of photography is another matter. Whilst this is great for jpeg shooters it is still giving you a WB profile in exactly the same way and depending on your type of photography can save a lot of time and headaches!!

        The internet is full of 'expert' armchair photographers who love to criticise and put down products in order to inflate their ego. Zeomega, I think you need to keep an open mind and not slam everything that comes out. Quote 'This item is only useful if you're shooting jpeg. Period.' Statements like that indicate you have a very closed and opinionated way of thinking. Loosen up, to get anywhere in photography you need to be flexible and have an open mind, not to criticise everything especially when you really aren't an expert! Look at all those photographers who were wearing their "death before digital' T-shirts…wonder how many of them are taking home 6 figure salaries these days ;-)

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  pommyjox on 23/08/2012 - 17:44

  Here is a useful article if you are interested in this product.

  http://www.ppmag.com/web-exclusives/2010/03/colorrightpro.ht…

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  zeomega on 23/08/2012 - 18:00

  Whilst i'm not a professional photographer and only a part-time/hobbyist, i have been hired for my fair share of events and weddings in italy, bangkok, singapore, etc. Nothing glamour and such like you have. I'm an engineer full time and love the intricate details so i do analyse products, photography is only part time.

  So without further ado, let's start. I do know how to use a grey card and i do have one, in fact i have about 30K worth of camera gear, so i'm not a stranger to all these stuff. What i shoot are mostly events and weddings, the odd portraits and stuff. Moving from room to room, or area to area, the lighting constantly changes. So i set leave it at 6000k (or closest) and off i go. What this does, is the same idea, you SET your WB and then move on from there as a reference point so that you can batch process easily. As you said, use the WB sample/dropper tool and your get neutral. So your point is that this item is useful? How?

  It's a miscommunication, or rather you're not understanding and i'm possibly not communicating well enough. Using the sampler tool you set the closest neutral balance, how is it that you don't get what i'm saying by now? The DAYLIGHT is a reference point to give consistent colour tone across all the photos. Yes, I'm randomly clicking my mouse around desperately trying to get a white balance. LOL.

  This product, as with the many other products (lens cap wb tool, grey cards, etc) all works as advertised, but there is an easier way out. I only use the grey card when I'm doing studio stuff to get my exposure and WB right. Yes i know you can use a light meter but i never got around to buying one, aslo didn't like the fact you need to calibrate it so often. Again, i'm not the studio photographer type, so never found a real need for it other than a grey card. A foldable greycard fits into the back of your pocket, is readily accesible and is not bulky. So Give me the greycard anyday.

  Let me know how this is useful in any other scenario when using RAW. I'd love to be enlightened.

  I just realised something, you're new to the ozb. Are you the inventer of this item? It seems a bit odd that you're defending it so hard. LoL

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  pommyjox on 23/08/2012 - 21:24

  Hi

  ok I understand you now with the way you work. Fair enough, using the WB dropper like that. It's a hit and miss principle and you rarely get it correct….but the reality is you don't need it 100% correct. In the majority of my work precise colour balance is required, which is then handed over to the retouchers to do their job. I do some freelance work and in that 100% accuracy isn't required or even wanted. In this as I'm sure you know from wedding work, creative WB is usually desired to give warmth etc

  Have a look at the link I posted. It explains pretty much what I wanted to say. All it is going to do is give you an accurate WB which you can then apply to the rest of your images. No different to you using the eye dropper tool….it is just slightly more accurate and takes out the guesswork.

  Like you say, there are many different types of these tools out there and in my honest opinion a device like this would sit in my cupboard along with the flash light modifiers and the kenwood food processor. But….I do know people, highly skilled and respected in their field who do use these things.

  The misunderstanding? Well you never said you used the eyedropper tool to adjust your white balance. I couldn't figure out that part to start….and besides using the eye dropper for WB is a method I hate. It is so agricultural and inaccurate, no better than flinging sliders around. Maybe I am getting fussy and pedantic in my old age ;-) I also don't understand the rigidity of setting daylight WB if you are going to modify the WB on all all your photos anyway. Auto WB would require less manipulation throughout a day of shooting in changing conditions!! I have a colour checker passport which is to me a better alternative and a lot less bulky, this also rarely gets used. If ever these days!!

  Yes I'm new to this site, and am only back in Oz briefly. I'm also not defending it so hard. My gripe is people knocking products with limited understanding. The majority of serious users of products like these shoot in RAW, you have this definite opinion that it is only for jpeg users. This is totally incorrect and misleading. It IS a useful tool for certain people, definitely not for everyone, but I think it is too bulky which may explain the reason for the price drop!

  Anyway, good luck with your photography. You obviously enjoy it. By the way, sure the glamour industry pays well but I still have a lot more fun shooting the occasional weddings. People are generally nicer and it throws up some interesting challenges :-)