Might be of interest for the rural folk out there.
For a limited time, get your Starlink kit for over 75% off in select areas of rural Australia + New Zealand.
RURAL LIMITED TIME OFFER
$199 FOR HARDWARE ($924 RRP)
No contracts, 30-day trial.
Shipping times are currently estimated to be 1-2 weeks.
$139/mo for service and $199 for hardware (rural) or $599 for hardware in the rest of Australia, and possibly $30 delivery fee.
1 Month of free service for referrer and referee.
should be able to pause your service as soon as you receive it
i can only speak for the roam plan as thats what ive been using at home & while camping.
Yep Starlink RV you can pause which is $179/mth - i have this and its superb, standard starlink is not able to be paused from memory - could be wrong.
@dogzilla: If you don't want internet while on motion, can you use the regular starlink base station and $139m plan? Or you have to get the special roam get and plan?
Don’t be that person
An ozbargainer?
Yes, exploiting the rules to get more than you deserve is a terrible thing to do, especially to a billionaire!
Billionaire that falsely accuses people of being pedos when they save lives he wanted to be the hero and save
Fragility alert….
Elon does act like he's a little fragile. Probably doesn't need you defending him though.
@SBOB: Elon is not fragile…
Firstly grow up and remember Elon is nobodys friend.
Billionaires dont get rich by being nice or generous, they get rich by being the worst aresholes and biggest liars on the planet. Thats always the answer, now that you know how they think you will always have the answers and understand their strategies…
Elon only cares about Elon….
@SBOB: Looking fwd to him getting his penis-extended, hair-implanted, pudgy meat sack beaten the crap out of.
@1st-Amendment: Yeah, falsely accusing someone of being a pedophile because you didn't get to play hero for the day is pretty fraglie behaviour.
Fragility alert….
Thank you for alerting us to your fragility regarding people justly criticising a billionaire.
@ihuntbargains: Love that people have neg'd my comment which is entirely true.
Billionaires fanboys incapable to admit their idol has major faults.
@ihuntbargains: It was funny - it was down right dangeous. If you were the parents of a kid stuck in that dangerous stupid device that was oversizzed for the conditions of the cave you wouldnt be laughing.
@CowFrogHorse: Elon is that one guy who did alright at school and convinced their self that they are gods gift to humanity.
Yet all he has done since the paypal money is pay people to do all the work and tried to play it off as his genius.
@ihuntbargains: Says who ?
You obviously have not read some of Elons technical crap, its pretty obvious from his statements that he can barely program if that.
"Try any Starlink Service for 30 days and, if not satisfied, return the hardware for a full refund."
I assume he wants to keep the hardware and resell it for profit.
They already sell refurbed stuff. I think if something fails (Dishy) you 'may' get a second hand replacement. It was like that for awhile. May have changed. Was full price.
You can get it and then suspend the service or you can change the service to roaming. We just picked one up, remotely on our travels. You need to activate it at the location you have it sent to. My only concern is that Starlink are renowned for changing the goal posts.
first of all if you want to try this, make sure you ask them via email and wait for the reply, that way if you do try and return you have it in writing.
So many starlink
so much internet
Ｗｏｗ
How do so many satellites avoid crashing?
What are those white dots? That are not in a straight line
The white dots in a straight line are freshly launched satellites.
Over time the satellites boost themselves to the correct orbits. Satellites in higher orbits travel more slowly, so if the thrusts to boost to a higher orbit are spaced out correctly, the satellites spread out evenly across the orbital plane.
Bogus.
Satellites never boost themselves to correct orbits, because that costs fuel. They only fall down towards earth not away.
@CowFrogHorse: According to this article you are wrong.
Starlink satellites are launched into an orbit which will degrade quickly due to orbital drag if they do not start boosting themselves to a higher orbit using with krypton ion thrusters. The low orbits mean the satellites will degrade within 5 years, making them unlikely to contribute to Kessler syndrome.
@mathew42: Are you sure… ?
Starlink satellites are equipped with krypton ion thrusters for on-orbit maneuvers, but SpaceX said the increased atmospheric drag prevented the satellites from getting out of their safe-mode configurations and raising their orbits.
@CowFrogHorse: Yes. Solar storm knocks out 40 newly launched satellites from Elon Musk's SpaceX provides some details on this incident.
Elon Musk's company said it routinely put satellites into low orbits in order to be able to crash them back to Earth and incinerate them on re-entry if malfunctions were detected during initial system checks.
Because the satellites are 'cheap' and plentiful, SpaceX can afford to take more risks than when launching a 9200kg Jupiter 3 with a lifetime of 20 years into geostationary transfer orbit. Note that also in this example that the satellite provides thrust to raise it's orbit.
That link is mind blowing. I can track the satellites, look at their orbit and see their altitude from my phone in my living room. Holy shit.
map of astrophotographers' worst nightmare
Honestly it's so bad. Streaks all over the sky.
That is amazing!
With so many satellites it makes me wonder if there is a way they can be used for geolocation with better accuracy than GPS/GLONASS/Galileo. My thought is that you would be able to triangulate location using the timing data from far more reference points.
They're not geostationary though
I'm interested, this might be necessary for me in the near future. Based in FNQ. Any current users out there?
How's the speeds, the latency, the data cap, the offline/online periods, and do you find the price justified?
What about using 4G (or 5G) for Home Internet purposes? Too expensive? Little data allowance?
Speed is not that great but for most home office and video streaming , it would do the job.
I live in rural Queensland pretty far out bush, and I average about a 200mb connection constantly.
You get 1tb a month and there is no on/off peak anymore.
Latency is low for all games ive played.
Price is abit high, but the speeds make up for it.
It says unlimited standard data?
You'd hope so for heavy users like me - I'm averaging 1.5Tb, with peaks easily up to 3.5Tb when new Linux ISOs and Steam updates get rolled out.
Caveat is that Starlink can change their terms anytime so an uncapped plan will quite easily become capped on a whim.
@Switchblade88: I find certain download sources get worse the more I use. Used to download at 40mbps on usenet and now I barely reach 7mbps. Steam downloads are fine among the rest. Just heavy usenet gets worse and worse.
@Switchblade88: No way - are you saying you dont trust Elon ?
We all know Elon is extremely generous to everyone, thats why none of his workers want to form a union.
hmm fnq, you may have fast internet but you'll still be 20years in the past
isn't the founder of that party from qld
and so is the other wacky party one nation, again qld
If you have access to 4G at reasonable speeds (>50Mbps+) I would expect that to be cheaper and simpler.
One advantage of Starlink is that in the event of disaster if you have power (e.g. backup generator) it will stay online. Many phones will route calls over wifi and so will enable you to ring people via Starlink. Based on past events, that will not be the case for 4G if the tower is damaged or generators run out of fuel.
Not sure what kind of disaster you're envisaging but if it takes out the ground station or its connection to the wide internet, the satellites are useless (for now, but they plan to eventually have them bouncing data between themselves)
Laser links between satellites have been being deployed for quite a while now - that's where their maritime service for ships at sea comes from. No saying that they will route around downstations that are out, but they a certainly in a position to have some serious battery backup.
Any disaster which damages local infrastructure. For FNQ I would guess that cyclones and flooding would be candidates.
There is a reasonable argument that providing townships at risk of isolation with Starlink terminals is a reasonable risk reduction strategy when the cost is considered. A similar argument could be mounted for equipping disaster response command centre vehicles.
Bushfire took out the tower where I am
North coast NSW floods, it went full Lord of the flies up here.
One advantage of Starlink is that in the event of disaster if you have power (e.g. backup generator) it will stay online.
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Based on past events, that will not be the case for 4G if the tower is damaged or generators run out of fuel.
So if I have Starlink and there is a natural disaster and I have a generator it will not run out of fuel but the mobile carriers will?
If that's the case why don't the mobile carriers add Starlink so that their generators don't run out of fuel too?
Mobile carriers don't have generators at all their cell towers…
Powering a single Starlink service requires significantly less energy than a mobile tower.
Having the device under your control means you can make choices, like turning it off at night.
Interestingly, Telstra are adding Starlink to remote mobile towers to provide backhaul.
makes ke wonder if Starlink will accept payment in snakes
I picked up this deal a couple of months back now and have no regrets. Am really impressed with the service.
speed test?
worst ive had is 80 down
best has been a touch over 200
either way still double what i could get on the nbn
latency is around 30 all the time
speed test results please
Depends which starlink cell you are in and how many people are using it. I get 220Mbit with very little latency but we have few people around us - regional peeps should get the same service i reckon
My speed is currently faster than 0 speed
Have to say I’m really impressed with Starlink. I live in Yarrambat and get a constant 200mbps download speed. I have no issues and am happy with the service. It is pricey but it’s the best alternative at the moment.
whats the latency or ping? any lag for gamers? I got 3 kids
Between 30-70ms
I don’t game
The lag can be pretty bad. I get a lot of complaints from my kid. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's really bad.
Fortnite often displays a bad connection icon.
Tempting, we live in the Daintree FNQ and are using Skymesh with the new unlimited data plan. Speeds go anywhere between 25mbs to 90mbs but the ping is killer around 500-600.
We were staying at a camping park in Albany recently and it seemed that every fourth or fifth site had Starlink - Aussies don't slum it when they camp!
How well does starlink deal with heavy rains or clouds?
I’d like to visit my dad’s more, but his place is stuck on ADSL2 speeds. It’s not an issue for him, but when I visit I need to do remote conferencing.
Being able to turn pause and unpause the plan as needed sounds extremely useful.
This post coming to you via Starlink. I haven't had any major outages in the last 12+ months due to weather.
This is the new order of things, in terms of speed, reliability and cost
Worst > Best
Skymesh > NBN (anything but fibre) > 4g > Starlink > 5g > NBN Fibre
NBN HFC is about par with Starlink or 5G
NBN HFC Can go to to 1,000 Mbit.
That's faster than you will get from Starlink or 5G
HFC is variable for sure, depends on your area. My area can't get 1000 at the moment but maybe when Foxtel is decommissioned fully.
I agree. However, many RSPs have content caching in place, so from my own subjective experience, the video buffering is less on a Starlink connection, even though the connection speed is slower.
I think Starlink does not de-prioritise certain traffic during peak times.
My HFC can go 940Mbps off-peak, but during my 3 months of Starlink testing from January to March, Starlink worked better during the peak time for YouTube and streaming. I live in VIC.
I have been on Superloop, AussieBroadband and Exetel, and all of them have content caching and traffic de-prioritise in place, some even advertised on their TOS.
Also, it seems the international route to Asia for Starlink seems slightly better. ABB currently runs through the US so the latency is a bit high.
I used to be on FTTP, now in rual Tassie on NBN wireless, it does about 68-70Mbps with a 55ms ping the 4 or 5 tines I have tested it (just now again at 7pm)
Unlimited data and $20 a month cheaper (currently on Launtel), just wondering if it makes sense to shift to Elmo Musk's astro destroying system.
I wouldn't. Your fw is decent. SL will drop and ping will be higher. Look for a cheaper provider than launtel. They are expensive.
I fixed your list.
Skymesh > NBN FTTN/B or 4g > Starlink > 5g > NBN HFC > NBN FTTP
Make sure you have a good view of the southern sky or SL will dc and reconnect every 5 mins or so. Even with this DL was 300mb. Went to FW which was DL80 but ping was 35 and stable.
How can I make money travelling?
Drug mule
Become a specialist programmer.
Look up what job ads are offering 150k+ for remote only work. Maybe iOS apps or salesforce or something?
Do some courses, get 6 to 12 months experience on crappy entry level pay, then you're good.
Telstra sent me an email the other day that they will teaming up with Starlink to offer their services via Telstra or i read it online , cant remember. I like the $199 offer but i am worried about the initial setup. I don't want to drill holes in the walls or climb on the roof cause I'm old, so I will wait to see what there offer it on installation.
It worked first time at my place just sitting on the ground. It now has four roofing screws in provided mount. Not recommended but no dramas.
$200 for hardware is a no brainer I think. I justify the $140 a month as $50 more than Skymuster for a real city service.
I don't want to drill holes in the walls or climb on the roof cause I'm old, so I will wait to see what there offer it on installation.
Pay a 3rd party to install it. Generally about $600 for someone to install it plus some additional hardware.
Any idea what they consider to be Rural? Can't see a map indicating it. The place I'm looking to get it is kinda on the cusp.
If i order the hardware for 199 can i cancel after a month and not return it with the 30 day trial?