$0.95 cheaper than the deal a couple weeks ago.
Amazon are price matching Coles $2 special + additional 10% off with subscribe & save = $1.80
First time it's down to $2 since Jan 2023 (Price Hipster)
Edit 230pm: Amazon on backorder, no more subscribe & save.
Edit 14/7: Amazon sold out.
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Because it rots your brain and bones.
Rubbish.
You'd have to drink 5 liters of water for every kilogram of body weight for fluoride to become dangerous to you. IE you'd die of drinking too much water before fluoride kills you. FACT
There are a lot of comments akin to this throughout, so I'd like to hijack yours and start discourse around this issue.
I'm sure many an Ozbargainer has an interest in this, but the literature is skint and online discussions seems to be little more than two opposing camps calling eachother idiots.
Would you be able to provide peer-reviewed literature to support your case (also welcoming literature to the contrary)? Not interested in news articles or 'expert opinions' that are unpublished or not peer reviewed.
If fluoride, in the quantities in toothpaste and tap water, has tangible consequences, then surely there would be more widespread discourse. I'm conscious of the discussion around it, but other than it being a 'government mind control drug' (and trust me, I am more than content with agreeing to a conspiracy if it is foundationally true and obvious), I have seen few clamouring for its abolition.
Any longitudinal studies conducted over 80 years would also be ideal, assessing the real impact as opposed to immediate or mouse-model trials. Many thanks.
Copy/paste from Google: (I reckon any one of these respected organisations would have done the required research to publicly recommend its use)
"Many leading local, national and international health organisations endorse water fluoridation, including:
Arthritis Australia
Australia’s National Health and Medical Research Council
Australian Dental Association
Australian Institute of Health and Welfare
Australian Medical Association
Cancer Council Victoria
Diabetes Victoria
FDI World Dental Federation
Osteoporosis Australia
Public Health Association of Australia
The Pharmacy Guild of Australia
World Health Organization"
But I'm sure there are plenty of Facebook and YouTube doctors who'd disagree ;).
@diamondd: On second thoughts, you're 100% right.
The lack of teeth in your later years will suit your intelligence level perfectly! Carry on :).
@aussman: As someone who looked into doing a meta analyses for a thesis, would take this as S class evidence.
Read through the intro, method, and conclusions, I'd take this evidence over any self proclaimed "experts" here
online discussions seems to be little more than two opposing camps calling eachother idiots
I'll pass because as pleasant as you are trying to seem, this is all this will end up being.
The research I did years ago was enough to convince me to install RO and switch to fluoride free toothpaste. Do your own honest research and feel content with whatever decision you make at the end of it.
I really only want to make the point that the general fluoride advice and policy is designed to protect those that actually need it. If you eat well, you will get enough.
Can you imagine the government saying, we are not going to put fluoride in the water but if you are bad parents, here is some free fluoride supplements for your kids as their teeth will suffer because of the diet and dental care you are providing them?
You definitely need to take in fluoride, I'm just trying to say that some people are at risk of taking in too much and that has negative health outcomes.
The burden of proof doesn't lie with the opponents of flouride to show that its harmful, it lies with the people who are choosing to add it to our drinking water to show that it's safe - or even just effective at improving dental health.
The precautionary principle applies here. If the literature is skint why is it in our drinking water? The idea should be a non-starter.
Adding it to toothpaste is a different matter, but given the suspect decision making of public health officials in regards to the water, it's no wonder that flouride free toothpaste is catching on.
They have a Fresh Mint version with fluoride, but it's harder to find.
Question, it says no flouride. Is this toothpaste for people with special requirements? Isn't flouride for your teeth a good thing?
Water here already got fluoride added to them……
Yeah, it's a 'feature' of the toothpaste. Don't buy it, it's not about special requirements (outside of mental), it just won't work.
Fluoride doesn't help clean your teeth and mouth which is the main purpose of toothpaste.
Actually a couple of very detailed studies showed that brushing your teeth (religiously in one study, meaning many times per day) with toothpaste that does not contain fluoride did nothing to help prevent cavities and degradation. i.e. Although it is not intuitive, it has been proven before that brushing with toothpaste without fluoride is a waste of time. But that did not take into account having fluoride in the water supply. Conversely, and really supporting that study, using fluoride on the teeth without brushing teeth at all had all the positive effects of keep cavities away. I guess my point here is that regardless of how poisonous fluoride is, this toothpaste is useless (without it).
@gdozbargain: Good listen:
https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/awhmabel/the-dentis…
The attributions and citings for this podcast at the end of the transcript will link to the relevant studies.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTW0Ur4_CWFWOmlV…
Flouride is added to help protect teeth, which is the other main purpose of toothpaste
Any human with a healthy, nutritious and varied diet will get enough fluoride for teeth building. We put it in the water and toothpaste to account for and protect the kids who don't get a regular healthy diet provided to them.
Unfortunately there is an upper limit on a safe level of fluoride you can take in which is why reverse osmosis filters and fluoride free toothpastes exist.
I laugh at the amount of negs these comments get. Topical flouride has been shown to have NO positive affect on teeth in studies, yet we're forced to consume it via tap water and steaming showers.
The last deal the OP linked to had a better response and gave me hope. Not sure why the tone is different in this one.
Give it time, doctors recommended heroin, cigarettes and thalidomide once.
@7hours 44min ago: Haha, so true. There was a period of brushing teeth with coal too.. I l however hold no hope
It seems like a lot of people are unable to process the possibility their dental nurse gave them bad advice.
can you guys share articles on this? really interested to read about it
Maybe the day we can get medicare to cover dental, we can stop adding fluoride to water? But until then….
you sure about that https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30829399/
the cochranes review would have you believe otherwise
maybe we don't need iodinised salt either
or thiamine enriched bread
@aussman: Interesting side note, we typically crave salty foods because a lot of us are iodine deficient. Our bodies are craving iodine, not salt! So much of the salt used these days is not iodinised. Make sure you all try to use iodinised salt or consider iodine tablets!
No.
Flouride is a neurotoxin. Give it to a phone zombie and you've got… well, go to a food court.
9/10 dentists recommend colgate
how many recommend grant
at $2 a tube they aint gonna buy many dentists.
actually my dentist recommends that..
9/10 dentists get paid to recommend colgate.
None. Because they don't get kickbacks from Grants.
hm doesn't show Sub & Save for me :(
On backorder now so no subscribe & save sorry. You'll have to order for $2 or get it from Coles.
For someone who was used to flouride and has been daily using their cinnamon one - this thing sucks. It does not feel like it cleans your teeth at all.
people still thinking fluoride is good for you lol
Great product!
Why is there no fluoride in their range?