Howdy folks,
We have another ITX build up for grabs, this time a bit higher tier with the 5700X and RTX 4070 on a B550 ITX board.
- Ryzen 7 5700X
- Nvidia RTX 4070 12GB Graphics card
- AMD B550 ITX Motherboard
- 16GB (2x8) 3200MHz RAM
- 500GB NVMe m.2 SSD
- 650W Bronze Power supply
- Leaper Edge ITX Case
Cheers, Caleb & Luke
Just doing some quick research, pretty much any brand/model of 4070 will have at least four outputs (usually 3x DisplayPort + 1x HDMI)
Generally speaking we get the PNY Verto
What brand motherboard and power supply being used for this build?
Taken from their website:
If a specific brand/model of component is stated in the product listing, your PC will ship with that brand/model. Otherwise, the below is a true indication of the brands we use and regularity with which they are used. Individual component brand requests cannot be guaranteed or catered to unless specified in the listing or Product Options list.
Your system will ship with components from the following leading brands (always depending on available stock):
RAM: TeamGroup, Kingston, Crucial, G.Skill, Corsair, ADATA, other TechFast approved brands
Motherboard: Gigabyte, MSI, Asus, Asrock, Allied, other TechFast-approved brands
Power Supply: InWin, Gigabyte, Antec, Thermaltake, MSI, Deepcool, Allied, other TechFast-approved brands
Graphics Cards: Galax, MSI, Gigabyte, PNY, Gainward, ASUS, Biostar, Colorful, Inno3D, other TechFast-approved
Liquid Coolers: MSI, Deepcool, Corsair, Allied, other TechFast-approved brands
Solid State Drive: Kingston, SanDisk, WD, Seagate, Crucial, Lexar, PNY other TechFast-approved brands
Hard Disk Drive: Seagate, Western Digital, Toshiba, other TechFast-approved brands
Ta!
They use the Baldurs gate system…. Roll the dice
will this run BG3 max settings at 1080p?
Yes, easily.
1080p max settings easily and you can push it to 1440p and it'll still do 100+ fps on max. Pushing to 4k is when you'll start getting gpu limited, even then you'll still get around 80fps.
Thanks… may be list brand & model# as much as possible.
Having observed your business-model, you dominate the low-end systems market.
As you know, tech-savvy buyers expect low-tier parts and/or apply a discount factor for the unknown.
But they aren’t even the same tier?
That is why! 7900xt is better.
Great stuff guys, how long to ship it to Bundy ?
they took 2 weeks for me to deliver at kepnock.. it was good.. the only issue is they don't have any contact number nor an address.. email is the only way to contact, however response time is not bad..
Anyone willing to jump in and give their opinion whether this is a good deal or not? Out of my element when it comes to gaming PCs
yes, buy 2 min
It's decent, like most of what techfast offers, especially given inflation. It's kinda neat too if you need or like the idea of an ITX (smol case boy) build.
4070 will capably slap at 1080p or 2k for the best part of 3-5 years and the AMD processor will keep up for that duration. Weakest point is the SSD which has no space. You'd need to factor in another drive fairly immediately, or plump for a bigger one. Baldur's Gate on its own would take up a 1/4 of that drive.
If you want a gaming PC that'll rip for years without the time ($$) cost of getting your head around the market and comparative builds, you could do a lot worse than going for this.
It's a decent deal. There is a 2nd M.2 slot on the motherboard (one front, one back, total of 2) in case you want to add a storage drive down the line. Next time you see a 2TB or 4TB NVME drive deal on Ozb you could add that.
@thesaintstoney: credit to JBxrm & OMGJL for their input.
For thoses who insist on small-case: need to increase airflows by installing top-fans to expel hot-air. Motherboard seems to have '4-pin fan header'-> https://www.techporn.ph/biostar-b550m-silver-review/
From the pictures @ the link below, you'll need the GPU drawing-in air through mesh-side-panel, while on the opposite-side, you'll also need the CPU air-cooler drawing-in air from the mesh-side-panel. Definitely no 'tempered glass'. Biostar B550 Silver ITX: VRM is entry-level & hence need the airflows from the CPU-cooler.
http://www.almordor.com/product-14178-38725-42580.html
May be TechFast should have stated the above & spec the top-fans as standard ?
Leaper Edge ITX Case
Aight what am I missing, why does Googling this case show up basically nothing?
So, the "Leaper" product name is Techfast's own branding of the case they've come up with, which assume they would bulk order from a supplier partner or the case manufacturer.
After some sleuthing around, I saw the case popping up in Dick Smith prebuilds rebranded as an "Allied Javelin", and then eventually managed to get some more info on the case here for you from Almordor in Guangdong advertised as the "19L baby shark" or "Sharky 170I ITX". Enjoy.
http://www.almordor.com/product-14178-38725-42580.html
+1 for research, doing the hard yards there for others.
I am not saying that whoever get this PC will definitely run into this issue, but I think it may happen:
if you ever experience game randomly quit, it might because your RAM didn't get enough airflow -> overheats -> instable.
and with the design of front mounted GPU, there's not too much you can do apart from open up the case panel and creatively strap on a fan against RAM somewhere using zip tie.
In fact, it's a strange and uncommon design so I would never buy a cheap case if I'm planning to build a gaming computer.
And I sincerely disagree with people who use mini ATX motherboards and small cases for their gaming PCs, but their money, their joy.
agreed, talking about cheap case—— we can't even tell how good is the PCIe 3.0/4.0 extension ribbon cable included…. black screen shutter driver crash alert.
I like Mini ITX in a sense, but myself know the size reduce comes with a cost from somewhere else —- and I know how to deal with them by compromise some setting or physically modify something.
For those less experienced in PCs, good luck.
I'd never try and mass sell PC's vertical mounting gpu with riser cable. Just asking for trouble.
Min-ITX airflows challenges: owner installed a 'pair of slim 90mm' case-fans & kudo for sharing-> https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/itx-gaming-pc-tec…
If buyers' priority is 'so-super-tiny', then a lower-end of 2023 low-end system is all one can achieve for $814 (B550 & R5-5600 upgraded), 'generic 400watt' PSU, 'PCI-express 3.0 riser cable' & 'limited the power use to 45W from 65W & enabled a CPU voltage offset of -0.1'. 2 case-fans is extra $.
This case is slightly-larger & it's challenges can be overcome with $.
Buyers' preference: 'each to their own'. Or may be we should consider why the gaming-industry is pushing us in all sort of directions…no shortage of reviews prioritising different preferences.
RAM doesn't produce enough heat to need airflow.
What you are describing is faulty RAM that should be returned under warranty
Have u ever played with RAM at all?
While it is true Ram don’t produce much heat, they are not actively cooled either.
XMP with higher voltage will increase its heat, and tighter timing will reduce its heat tolerance.
Now, I challenge you:
Which is the best memory test tool for ryzen 5000 series?
tell me which timing will worsen the heat tolerance?
A. tCL
B. tRCD
C. tRFC
D. tFAW
E. Everything above
A bog standard 3200 cl16 kit of ram will use 1.3-1.35v max (on xmp obviously), nowhere near enough power to require even a passive heatsink.
While it is true Ram don’t produce much heat, they are not actively cooled either.
They don't produce enough heat to need cooling. No need to consider anything else, you have a lot of knowledge but if you have bad logic you will not achieve anything with it.
The answer to your passive aggressive question is the option you failed to consider- none of the above will have a significant effect
@greatlamp: I worked in a computer store for a pretty lengthy period (not anymore, and the store I work for is long gone so I am not associated with anyone)
I have come across plenty of PC having ram overheating issues, and a good amount of them are simple 3200c16.
If you don't have experience of something, should you come up with a lazy answer of yeh nah logically it ain't gonna happen? How about factually?
Ok let's go through the logic too:
Say a Samsung consumer level DDR4 IC running at 1.2v JEDEC, they spec to withstand 85c working temperature (on Samsung website)
On xmp you are increasing voltage and decreasing timing, which do reduce its heat tolerance.
In a cramped ITX build, the GPU won't have good airflow in the first place, especially the RAM is literally tucked behind GPU too, (a mesh side panel will provide more air to GPU, but the RAM is still behind the GPU —- and air don't go through solid objects —- it's blocked by the GPU and breathing hot air dumped by GPU Cooler) you'll quite easily have it running at 50+ air space.
Passive heat dissipation requires temperature delta, the RAM have to be at higher temperatures to dump any heat into air, so if the temperature is 50+, the RAM will be at 60+
That's plenty enough to cause instability.
In my experience, depending on chip quality and make, 55+ on XMP is already dangerous and some will fail.
Any other lazy conclusions from you?
@OMGJL: Unstable RAM is not the same thing as overheating RAM. Working in computer shop does not make you an electrical engineer, or even give you basic knowledge apparently. Maybe you need to understand the fundamentals before claiming you know better than everyone else because you overclock RAM using a gui tool
Instead of trying to attack me just accept you made a mistake. Trying to fish for the limits of my knowledge doesn't make your mistakes go away
@greatlamp: ok so decide to provide no logical point, nor factual point, but straight emotional nonsense.
Sure working in a computer store doesn't automatically make me good at computers, but I did say out of my experience didn't I?
understand the fundamentals
one don't need to know every fundamentals to observe certain consistent behavior.
It's easy enough to observe while running furmark:
airflow + MemTest = no crash,
no airflow + MemTest = crash.
no airflow + MemTest + AirCon On = no crash
no airflow + MemTest + AirCon Off = crash.
claiming you know better than everyone else
when did I say that? You are the one trying to proof you are better than everyone else without able to proof anything.
because you overclock RAM using a gui tool
when did I say that? what did I do?
accept you made a mistake
what mistake did I make? Samsung spec sheet didn't say 85c operating temp? heat dissipate don't require temperature delta? Internal Case temperature will never be high while gaming?
Trying to fish for the limits of my knowledge
It's too shallow to be bothered fishing.
doesn't make your mistakes go away
claiming I have a mistake with no reference, no testing, can't even logically defend your own point.
@OMGJL: I pointed out RAM does not overheat. So have others. Maybe you are inadvertently treating problems with poor VRM cooling, I don't know, but continuously trying to 'test my knowledge' with your quiz, and then refusing to accept you are mistaken is not a mature response
refusing to accept you are mistaken is not a mature response
You should be the recipient for this sentence.
Definitely way to go to have a blanket statement saying it will never overheat.
Like every IC from every manufacturer will all be fine at all time and have correct heatsink design
@OMGJL: RAM does not produce enough heat to need a heatsink at all. That is why your explanation of overheating RAM doesn't add up.
The real-problem is that this deal has poor airflows & all the related heat issues it'll creates, be VRM higher temp. on a low-tier mobo (see link @ comments here) likely black/blue screens with room temp. hit 30°C on hot summer days (pushing the system @ 1440P-Ultra & high system demand games), lower system life due to heat-stressed parts etc.
If TF confirms that this deal does come with 2 case-fans, then it's a worthy consideration. Even the BIOSTAR B550M-Silver likely to be just-enough on hot summer days.
May be TF should publish system temp. & benchmark, which will reduce all our educated-guesses.
If you're worried, maybe swap glass side panel for mesh side panel, as supplied?
Its pretty much a GPU with all the cheapest bits to then use that GPU, lower price comes with compromise.
SSD too small and upgrade more expensive than it probably should be - new games are often bigger than 100GB these days, so after the OS you may only get 3 games on it.
Personally I think its worth spending a little more for a better package, but this would still play well for the money.
Thinking about buying this PC and replacing case with the Fractal Design Terra SFF Gaming Case: www.scorptec.com.au%2Ffractalterracases%3Fpage%3D1&usg=AOvVa…. Will this be possible?
Dpends on whether their psu is Sfx size
The components brand/model you get depends on availability as per the website, so you won’t know for sure which GPU you’ll get for size compatibility. You probably already know a 240 AIO won’t fit in the Terra case; though you may want to find out the height and dimensions of the air cooler in this deal and even the height of the RAM (in case the air cooler doesn’t fit and you decide the buy your own cooler, RAM height and motherboard model may limit what coolers that’s available to you). Basically there could be a few compatibility risk even if you can adjust the spine of the terra case for the Cooler vs GPU.You may want to reach out to a staff and ask them if they can give you detail of the brand and model of components you receive.
You should check out Gamers Nexus new video from today about that case, all in all looks like a great case, but some of the noise issues they ran into due to the design of the side panels was a bit concerning.
No it won't. You need a mini ITX motherboard for that Fractal case. You are very unlikely to find a m-itx prebuild.
Motherboard compatibility: mITX
https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/terra/terra/te…
Thanks for the neg. Trying to share correct information.
You got negged because this is an ITX prebuild. It's right there, in the post.
the PSU in this deal is ATX. The Terra requires SFX/SFXL
So no
@luketechfast are you building them with the grill side panel or glass? Glass would severely affect the GPU negatively if so.
Better than the other itx hot box, but still questionable.
Sceptical about air flow and temps, the parts will thermal throttle.
If it has the glass panel on the side as show, GPU will not get good airflow. I would Dremel some holes or diy mesh panel it instead.
When you want to do a mini itx build, you need to do it properly or performance will suffer. Plus using just the stock CPU cooler, it's not going to be ideal and I imagine under load the fans will be loud.
From the page, it seems to include both tempered glass and perforated side panel so you could swap at will. The case seems to gear toward using AIO for CPU; if using stock cooler it better has a place to mount bottom fan + 2 top fans to pull air out. Anyway, it's gonna be negative pressure build so expect to clean up dust frequently.
Can you even fit Starfield on a 500gb drive?
If you only install Windows, one browser, Steam app and Starfield - then it should be enough.
Has anyone had much experience purchasing from Techfast @luketechfast before? I purchased a high end system over a week ago, they have no phone number for contact, just a webform which they haven't responded to. Not sure if I should be worried
Yes my PC is from Techfast a couple years back and they've always been responsive. Try politely emailing them again, hopefully you get your answer soon!
May be wait until all your 'business' days have lapsed ?
Nothing to worry.
All the days noted on their website are 'business' days & noted 'estimate only'.
https://techfast.com.au/delivery
Did it turn up? Thanks.
when I update the coupon code it isn't applied
Would this run Lightroom and Photoshop nicely?
Yeehah! Go for 32gb ram if you want to do big editz.
hi @luketechfast I ordered a rig 12 days ago that stated 3-5 day build time and 5 days postage approx. I haven't had any tracking information sent so assume it hasn't been built and no reply to 2 messages. Understand there are busy periods but should I be worried?
Coupon code is not working
Is the coupon expired?
Just looked into this, it should be resolved now. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
any such itx deals with b650e-i?
also option to swap out psu, etc. how best go about this?
7500F build at this price and you might have me
can we get this with an rtx 4080 and bigger psu?
How do you guys use wifi on these? USB good enough for hardcore games?
Hi @luketechfast,
Which GPU would likely be used, would like to buy something like this for my sim rig which has triple screens.
Knowing the inputs for the GPU before buying would be very helpful :)