Zyron Deskpod 156W Max 4-Port 100W PD3.0 with Stand & 100W USB-IF Certified 1m Cable $56 Delivered @ Zyron Tech AU

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  bboz on 03/12/2023 - 12:58

  +1

  Does this support quick charging (18w each?) of 2 or 3 devices at once?

  Thoughts on this one, ozbargainers? Better options out there?

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    CodeXD on 03/12/2023 - 13:22

    +2

    Kinda stupid that they removed the power distribution on the website, was really helpful for questions like this.

    This is from their amazon listing

    https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B09BJLDP6B?th=1

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      bboz on 03/12/2023 - 13:31

      Thank you, very helpful.

      Got one

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    Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 03/12/2023 - 13:24

    +1

    Yes 18W + 18W. Please check the product images. Have added the power distribution.

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      Warlock on 03/12/2023 - 13:32

      +5

      Get this sale up in Amazon too! I need to use my
      Prime shipping benefits!

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      bboz on 03/12/2023 - 13:32

      Thanks

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  Aap Ke Papa on 03/12/2023 - 13:16

  +3

  @ibelievesyd Do you guys use Australia Post? If yes, then unfortunately I am unable to buy as their service has been extremely extremely poor this last month.
  Three different parcels coming from Sydney from different suppliers still are travelling between 4 states for 20 days now including melbourne where the delivery address is.
  I just wish to know the delivery provider before I order. Thanks

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    Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 03/12/2023 - 13:25

    +1

    We use Sendle and Aus Post both.

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      Aap Ke Papa on 03/12/2023 - 13:26

      -1

      Thanks. I will wait for an amazon deal as a good delivery provider is of prime importance to me.

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        Warlock on 03/12/2023 - 13:32

        +1

        Me too!!!! Waiting for Amazon!

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          Aap Ke Papa on 03/12/2023 - 13:37

          +2

          @Warlock: Here you can see how shit Auspost is

          This is just one of the parcel

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            spaceflight on 03/12/2023 - 13:43

            +3

            @Aap Ke Papa: That can happen with any courier, it's hardly limited to Australia Post.

            Especially if the label is damaged, barcode smudged etc.

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              Aap Ke Papa on 03/12/2023 - 13:53

              @spaceflight: I could give you two more parcels. Same story. That is where Amazon just delivers amazing customer service and delivery.

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                spaceflight on 03/12/2023 - 14:01

                +7

                @Aap Ke Papa: My last Amazon order was 'delivered' to a house in a different state.

                All delivery companies can have issues.

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                  NobalaKoba on 03/12/2023 - 16:41

                  +2

                  @spaceflight: With Amazon getting a refund for issues like that is a lot easier.

                  With Auspost, sometimes the business will try to fob you off to the delivery provider "Sorry, you didn't pay for shipping insurance", and Auspost will pay a max and Auspost will say "Sorry, we can only pay a max of $100 as the seller didn't pay for Extra Cover".

                  Typically resolved via a PayPal dispute, or through the ACL, but can be more of a PITA than Amazon.

                  Not so relevant here, but the worst situation to be in is returning an item >$100 in value via Auspost and they lose it. It you didn't pay extra to cover Auspost being incompetent and losing your package, they'll only refund $100.

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                    TightLikeThisx on 04/12/2023 - 07:44

                    +1

                    @NobalaKoba: I thought Auspost only pays out compensation to the seller.

                    Also I thought they will play out the cost of postage in addition to the $100.

                    https://auspost.com.au/receiving/delayed-lost-or-damaged-ite…

                    Regardless you can just do a chargeback if the goods were not received. If you do a charge back with Amazon I suspect they will shut down your account.

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                Pusdi on 03/12/2023 - 17:03

                @Aap Ke Papa: Actually, of the myriad purchases I made for BF sales, the Amazon purchases are taking the longest to get to me

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        Jayze on 03/12/2023 - 19:21

        My Aus Post delivery coming from Brunswick VIC to Glen Waverley VIC went to Sydney to realise that it swrong state and redirect to VIC which took week and half to deliver. Also in general Aus Post deliveries taking longer now

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        TightLikeThisx on 04/12/2023 - 07:48

        My last Amazon parcel was left outside the door of a security building, uncovered and in full view of anyone passing by on the footpath 5m away.

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      furyou on 03/12/2023 - 22:41

      Sendle, so it could take 3-7 days to get picked up.

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    colt75 on 04/12/2023 - 09:41

    +1

    lol i send hundreds of parcels a week, and receive a lot too.
    Never have any issues with auspost, infact i find them quite reliable. better than some companies like sendle, Aramex and other 'courier' companies.

    each company has their own issues, but aus post is most consistent for me.

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  mint on 03/12/2023 - 13:18

  Grabbed 1 thanks 🙏

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  randombrick on 03/12/2023 - 13:21

  What are the charging specs when ports are used in combination? Usually, Zyron's listing has these details but not this one.

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    Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 03/12/2023 - 13:25

    +1

    Have updated the product images with power distribution

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  Muscles on 03/12/2023 - 13:25

  Is this a decent brand?

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    entropysbane on 03/12/2023 - 17:02

    I think so, happy with my collection of zyron chargers..I haven’t had any problems and they work as advertised.
    That said, see comments below.

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  Ezekiel2320 on 03/12/2023 - 13:27

  What are the specs of the pps function? 3.3-21v? What current? Does it support the current limiting function of pps?

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  wazsupsz on 03/12/2023 - 13:40

  +24

  From my personal experience with this brand, I strongly advise against this deal.

  I recently purchased a similar zyron gan charger and it was working fine .. but just last week I was using a usb port to charge my headphones. After using the headphones, I went to charge the headphones again and the realised that the headphones would not charge. I tried a different combinations of usb cables and chargers and realised that
  1. the headphones no longer charged
  2. the specific usb port that I used from the zyron charger did not work - the other ports continue to work fine
  3. there seem to be like a burnt smell from both the charger and the headphones (where the usb connected/charged)

  For me, it's obvious that the zyron charger ruined my headphones - I also feel like I was extremely lucky that this didnt cause worse damage (as I usually use it with multiple devices) or even a fire!!

  I then contacted zyron and left a message with this outlined via there website. I haven't and received any response or interest!! What kind for company doesn't want to investigate this further to understand what happened????

  • spaceflight on 03/12/2023 - 13:45 Comment score below threshold.
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      billadm on 03/12/2023 - 14:02

      +3

      How do you know that the headphones didn't fail first

      The only reason for the damage is the overcharging protection that doesn't work as it should, it's an electronic thing that got nothing to do with opinions.
      That is why I never buy those unknown rebadged China import devices.

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        spaceflight on 03/12/2023 - 14:07

        The only reason for the damage is the overcharging protection that doesn't work as it should

        How do you know that the issue relates to overcharging?

        The headphones will also have some form of charging mechanism / protection / BMS so that they can regulate what flows to the battery.

        it's an electronic thing that got nothing to do with opinions.

        That's funny because you even went to the trouble of bolding your opinion when you have no idea what happened to the charger and headphones.

        That is why I never buy those unknown rebadged China import devices.

        You don't even know what sort of headphones were being charged.

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      wazsupsz on 03/12/2023 - 14:07

      +12

      I trust the quality of my bose headphones over the quality of a charger.

      It's actually more about the response or lack of response from the company which tells me everything I need to know

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        spaceflight on 03/12/2023 - 14:09

        -6

        It's actually more about the response or lack of response from the company which tells me everything I need to know

        Yes that's poor from the company.

        But it's hard to blame the charger when there's another electronic device and battery which could have caused the issue.

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          [Deactivated] on 03/12/2023 - 14:15

          +1

          @spaceflight: the charging cable could of also frayed inside/pulled at the port or gunk/moisture in the ports themselves which could of caused a short.

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        Ozzster on 07/12/2023 - 20:19

        Then you should not trust the quality of the faulty product. I can assure you that this is the end product who decides how to charge. I.e. this is your headphones whos first communicates with the charger, and then allows it to give as much charge as the headphones allow, or stop the charge when the headphones decide that that's enough. Did you get the idea who is the boss in case of your Bose?

        From practical experience, and I saw it with many brand new devices of different brands, this sht happens because of the battery. Even expensive headphones may have a faulty battery that will die quickly and even blow up with a specific smell. Not always it's a burn smell. For example Apple makes it's blown baterries smelling cherry. This is usually covered by warranty for now, and in a few years batteries will become replaceable by design.

        Speaking of the charger, their problem is that Gan usually assumes 100+ degrees inside the charger. If you keep like that for long, obviously something will die. So, if anyone has this charger and is concerned about the quality - give it max load for an hour and touch it every 10 minutes. If it's 100 degrees inside, you'll feel it even through the plastic.

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          Prong on 08/12/2023 - 10:36

          @Ozzster: The headphones use micro USB and average 1W for charging. It's unlikely they negotiate for more than the default USB 2.0 500 mA. Maybe USB 3.0 and 900 mA.

          The headphones certainly could try and draw more if there is a short circuit, but considering there was no no sign of melting (which is not uncommon with shorts) then the short was either very brief, or very low wattage.

          The charger (if following spec) needs to have overcurrent protection. How that is implemented in this case, or at what value it triggers, is unknown. A short circuit in the headphones should not be able to damage the charger and the USB 2.0 spec requires overcurrent protection to be resettable (with a power cycle if needed).

          The fact that the port no longer functions on the charger is a sign that something more has gone on than just a short. It may be that the charger did not follow spec (or there is an off combination of in spec behaviours involved) and was damaged by a short circuit in the headphones. Or it may be that the charger malfunctioned, and in doing so, delivered over 5V to the headphones. Or some other issue.

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            Ozzster on 08/12/2023 - 11:14

            @Prong: MicroUSB is a bit gamechanger here. It doesn't negotiate much, it's not as smart as USB-C. But it can take more than 1A, or even 2A, as by default 2.4A is available for that kind of chargers and devices, this is just not in long run. For example, many devices such as external HDD may need 1.5A to spin up, but after the start will be OK within 500-900 mA.

            Yes, the non-wortking port on the charger makes sense. It's the only evidence pointing out on the charger. However, there is a chance that it's not dead. I've seen many cases when such a port just moved to another mode, like a safe default, and will work only with some particular devices with very limited range, like 5V 2A. It just needs to carefully tested, preferably with a good USB tester.

            If you are super keen to investigate this, I can take a look at your headphones and find out what is malfunctioning. Have you tried steps like these? https://www.headphonesty.com/2022/02/how-to-fix-bose-headpho…

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              Prong on 08/12/2023 - 11:46

              @Ozzster: So they are not my headphones. I am just interested in this issue, as it is quite relevant to work I do.

              And yeah, the headphones could be negotiating for more current and I was not meaning to suggest micro USB itself was limited to these levels.

              Just suggesting that since the peak charge rate is unlikely to be above 2.5W, and 4.5W (0.9A) is more than enough to cover charging even while being used, I am not sure if they would bother negotiating for more. But there are certainly many plausible reasons why it would - even just that the charge circuit used defaults to higher current, even when not needed. Or the various info / specs I have seen online are not accurate.

              No matter the negotiated current, the charger should weather a short circuit without an issue. I did confirm with wazsupsz that the port no longer works (and after a power cycle of the unit), and they had tried various cables etc. Beyond that I don't know.

              But absolutely - I would love to be able to plug my power meter into the port, as it would no doubt yield useful info. As would you investigating the headphone fault!

              Further down wazsupsz posted the a reply from Zyron about the issue, and they appeared disinteresting in investigating, and blamed the headphones, while making some strange statements about the charger itself. I asked some questions about the overcurrent protection, and the Zyron rep is seeking clarification, so it will be interesting to see what they say.

              Depending on that, wazsupz may be interested in further investigation.

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      [Deactivated] on 03/12/2023 - 14:08

      +1

      yeah if a port is working normally then suddenly fails its most likely from outside factors. burnt smell most probably means it there was a short and that doesn't just suddenly happen.

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        harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2023 - 14:22

        "yeah if a port is working normally then suddenly fails its most likely from outside factors"

        really is that true? I put off buying the UGreen 4-port nexode charger with black friday price because a bunch of reviews on Amazon US (I always read reviews on Amazon.com) said 2 to 3 ports stop working eventually within 6 months. so all these cases are likely caused by the user from outside factors?

        I honestly don't know what to believe, because I am aware a lot of users avoid telling the whole story or can't read the user manual and just write a bad review.

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          spaceflight on 03/12/2023 - 14:30

          -2

          @harshbdmmaster718:

          really is that true?

          It's hard to say because there are so many factors than just the charger.

          The charger might have been the issue
          But it's just as likely it was something other than the charger.

          If you fill your car up with petrol today and tomorrow the engine dies it doesn't mean it was because of the petrol. It could have been any number of issues with your car that meant it will still fail tomorrow even if you don't put petrol in it today

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            harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2023 - 14:58

            @spaceflight: yeah I guess. I just don't know what to believe.

            my first thought was, oh the user probably used some unregulated bad cable (like USB-C to barrel connector) and it fried the ports. but then I thought of the many reviews mentioning port failure, not all of them could have been using bad cables right?

            anyway just to be safe, I thought better to avoid the product just incase it is poorly made.

            just another perspective, there is a Anker powerbank on sale now which has a number of bad reviews mentioning it charges extremely slowly (5W when claimed to charge PD 20W). apparently it is meant to do this only on the first charge, but many experienced slow charge every time they charged. it was quite a simple fix in the end by reading the user manual, if it's charging slowly there is a method to reset the powerbank by plugging into both USB-C sockets with a single cable (plugging into itself) for a few seconds. I have also read a few global reviews that mention this fix. after the reset the powerbank begins to charge at normal rated PD standards. so I can understand sometimes it's user error.

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          [Deactivated] on 03/12/2023 - 14:33

          @harshbdmmaster718: did those reviews quote a "burnt smell" which most likely suggests a short?

          suddenly failing ports without a short could just mean bad solder/soldering which can expand and dislodge or easily pulled out from regular usage of cables or just bad circuits like capacitors inside. completely different issue to shorting.

          even low quality usb ports could affect longevity. just like how cheap cables over time after inserting in and out get loose at the connectors and stop working.

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            harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2023 - 14:53

            @[Deactivated]: " did those reviews quote a "burnt smell" which most likely suggests a short?"

            no none of them mentioned burnt smell. just ports failing on their own. next time they plug something in no matter what it is there is no power output on failed ports.

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              [Deactivated] on 03/12/2023 - 15:06

              @harshbdmmaster718: then you did the right thing as devices with cheap internals/manufacturing that fail prematurely should be avoided especially when multiple people report the same issue overtime.

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                harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2023 - 15:32

                @[Deactivated]: yeah. my guess is being a multiport power adapter with PD outputs, it's just not made properly and can't handle what it should be able to (distributing power and multiple plug ins/outs while in use). from what I understand it's a safety mechanism to cut power to ports, and from Ugreen's side it's smarter to cut power permanently and have a faulty product than it is to potentially damage another 3rd party product which may be expensive.

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      Prong on 04/12/2023 - 11:37

      If correctly implemented, the PD spec means the charger has quite a lot of protection from external problems. Even for USB ports that don't support PD charging, there are protections in place.

      There isn't a very plausible way for the headphones, or the cable, to work fine, then develop a fault that can damage the charger.

      For example, in an overcurrent situation (say if there was a short circuit in the cable or headphones) the charger should shut down that port without any damage to itself. It would be very unlikely for the charger to omit overcurrent protection, but if it did, even then I can't imagine a short that can dissipate high enough power long enough (without going open circuit) to damage the charger.

      Whereas for example, the charger, if faulty, can supply higher voltage than the headphones BMS can handle and very easily damage them. Something like headphones would be very unlikely to include any over voltage protection on the input. This scenario is likely the most common way electronics are killed by a charger, and a key reason to stick with quality brands for use with higher value devices. Zyron appears to try and source quality hardware, but no matter the brand, QC won't catch every issue.

      It could also be two unrelated failures that happened at a similar time. But on face value, I suspect the chances of that are not high. It may be that with further information / investigation beyond what was posted, other potential scenarios are possible.

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    CodeXD on 03/12/2023 - 14:31

    Which Zyron model do you have? Which bose headphones?

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      wazsupsz on 03/12/2023 - 15:31

      +1

      zyron model: zy-wc-120W
      headphones: bose qc 35 (I think or 45)

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        CodeXD on 03/12/2023 - 16:58

        +1

        I also had issues with that same zyron model, luckily it didn't break any of my devices. I returned it for full refund.

        I ended up buying this one and it has worked great for more than a year now.

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    Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 03/12/2023 - 19:51

    +4

    Hi there,

    Such issues take time to deal with and also get a response from technical team. If you haven’t had a response yet then it means it is going through a chain of internal communication within the team before we give you a response. Apologies for the delay but rest assured that your case is already being discussed and you shall receive a feedback soon. We are also experiencing higher than usual support queries for our recent Powerpod preorder dispatch.

    In regards to whether it was our charger or the cable or the headphones that were faulty, I would like to share some user experiences in below discussions:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/bose/comments/ibh6gh/bose_is_saying…

    https://www.reddit.com/r/bose/comments/135lm9n/i_woke_up_to_…

    The fact that Bose did refund and issued replacements does verify that the issue could have been with your bose headphones as it’s quite a frequent occurrence experienced by others too.

    Rest assured that the support team will respond to you soon.

    I am also available to resolve the issue if you prefer to communicate me here via pm.

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    Ploix on 03/12/2023 - 20:18

    +1

    How long has it been since you contacted them? A similar thing happened to me without ruining any devices attached but when I contacted them, they sent me out a new one free of charge

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    wazsupsz on 05/12/2023 - 23:16

    Here's the response that I received for those that are interested… I find it hard to believe that the first and only time I used this charger to charge my headphones (which I have used for years and charged without issue 100s of times) was due to an issue with the headphones

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    Based on the specifications of the Bose QC35, it requires a slow 5V1A charger that our 120W charger doesn't support. It has a minimum of 3A output via C1 and C2 and 1.67A via C3 port. In regards to the damage to your Bose QC 35, it could have been any one of the following scenario:

    1) Bose QC35 Malfunction: The QC35 itself may have a malfunctioning charging circuit or a short circuit, leading to excessive heat generation. There have been quite a few reported cases of such a failure that can be found on Reddit. We recommend you to contact Bose in this regard for a replacement.

    2) Faulty USB Cable: A damaged, moist or faulty USB cable can cause irregularities in the charging process, leading to overheating.

    3) Incompatible Charger: Using a high power charger that is not designed for the specific device, combined with malfunctioning device charging circuit can result in overheating and damage to the USB port.

    Your Zyron charger could have damaged the Bose QC due to it's internal component failure as a consequence of any recent drop or impact.

    We believe that the failure to your device is most likely a known issue with that batch of Bose QC35. Kindly contact Bose customer support for a replacement.

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      Prong on 06/12/2023 - 11:11

      +3

      What happened exactly is hard to say, and to be clear, it may not be the chargers fault, as it's impossible to draw an accurate conclusion from the info here.

      But IMO the Zyron response is problematic, and appears to be trying to divert blame, rather than identify and address the root cause of the issue.

      The below is also based on your previous comments, which state a Zyron ZY-WC-120W, and that the USB port on the charger no longer works and there is a burnt smell from both the headphones and the charger. Specific further details here can have a significant impact on the likely scenarios that could have caused the issue, so I have also sent you a PM. (This particular issue is interesting to me, and relevant to work I do).

      1) Headphones (not just Bose) and other devices can get short circuits in the USB port (especially with micro USB), and then overheat the port and melt the plastic around it. This appears to be the case with the referenced reddit posts. This overheating is at relatively low power, so won't damage the charger. If the short (or some other headphone fault) was dissipating enough power (significantly over 15W), the charger would shut down the port from overcurrent.

      2) The overheating is in the headphones, so would not directly cause damage the charger port. How the Zyron charger handles overcurrent is unknown, so I won't speculate on that aspect at this stage. Any overheating in the charger circuitry is not the fault of the headphones, as supplying in spec current should not cause overheating, and if it did (because of poor charger design), then the chargers existing methods to manage overheating should protect it.

      3) A high power charger is because of the maximum power it can deliver - not the minimum. Any connected device will draw the power it needs, up to the maximum negotiated. If it tries to draw more than the maximum negotiated, then the charger is required to cut off power. Using less than the maximum current is not an issue, and is how just about every single USB device operates.

      In the response, Zyron states "Based on the specifications of the Bose QC35, it requires a slow 5V1A charger that our 120W charger doesn't support. It has a minimum of 3A output via C1 and C2 and 1.67A via C3 port." This is a very strange statement. Unless negotiated higher (via PD comms, or pull up resistors) then max current is required to be no more than 500 mA (USB2.0), or 900 mA (USB 3.). The stated minimum current levels would mean the charger is not compliant with USB spec, and needing a minimum current is not how USB chargers work.

      Notably, the Zyron website for the ZY-WC-120W specifically states that it is compatible with 5W charging, which is under the "minimums" given. AirPods are given as an example, and handily, there is power analysis of AirPod 2 (in case) charging. It maxes out at 2.35W for a few minutes, and spends most of the charge time at more like 1.5W. And for the final part of the charge, it tails off to 0.25W.

      Based on the Bose Q35/45 battery capacity and charge times (which are both quite similar to the AirPods 2 in case), it will follow a similar profile. So no compatibility issues there.

      Considering you have a written statement from Zyron that their charger does not meet the advertised specification (low power charging), it would be reasonable to ask for a refund under the Australian consumer protections. Trying to get a repair of the headphones covered would likely need much more evidence that the charger is at fault. And again, it may not be.

      Your Zyron charger could have damaged the Bose QC due to it's internal component failure as a consequence of any recent drop or impact.

      Possible in theory, but very unlikely, and it would be a poor design that allowed it to happen. Not a relevant point IMO, unless the charger shows major external damage or there is some other evidence of this.

      @ibelievesyd

      Can you clarify the statement re: the minimum charge current?
      Does the ZY-WC-120W support charging low wattage devices, such as headphones?
      Can you clarify if the charger meets USB 2.0 / 3.0 power spec, if no PD negotiating happens is going on?
      How does the ZY-WC-120W handle an overcurrent situation?
      How is internal overheating handled in the charger?

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        Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 06/12/2023 - 17:48

        +2

        Let me come back to you on this one as I will need feedback from QC team. I have passed on your queries and should receive a feedback soon.

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          Prong on 08/12/2023 - 11:47

          @ibelievesyd: Thank you.

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  Robc on 03/12/2023 - 13:49

  I've ordered one. Should be good for travelling, seeing as the plug)/cables an easy swap. I was really hoping that it would do dual SF2.0 (45w) for 2 galaxy devices, which the blurb suggests that it does, but sadly the one review on their site says that it actually does dual SF (25w). Annoying, but still a decent option at the price.

  Thanks for posting.

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  Hugh G Rection on 03/12/2023 - 14:16

  -1

  is this overkill to charge my 1tb iPhone 15 promax?

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    Aureus on 03/12/2023 - 14:19

    +4

    Is this a joke?

    If not.. I would suggest getting a brand name charger for your almost $3000 phone.

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      spaceflight on 03/12/2023 - 14:22

      -4

      This is a brand name charger, it's Zyron

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        Aureus on 03/12/2023 - 14:22

        +5

        😆
        At least it isn't Heymix.

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    spaceflight on 03/12/2023 - 14:21

    This can change 4 devices at once
    If you only want to change 1 at a time it might be an overkill

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    Aap Ke Papa on 03/12/2023 - 14:22

    +3

    Yes, its an overkill. You need to buy another 1tb iPhone 15 promax to charge your current phone.

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      [Deactivated] on 03/12/2023 - 14:25

      +1

      recharging is for peasants. real ballers buy a new 1tb iPhone 15 pro max everytime the battery dies.

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        Aap Ke Papa on 03/12/2023 - 14:55

        This is the way

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        mikeoxlarge on 03/12/2023 - 17:57

        Reminds me of david becham only using his undies ones

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    [Deactivated] on 03/12/2023 - 14:23

    +4

    humblebragging about a top of the range iPhone doesn't work in 2023.

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  aboutconfig on 03/12/2023 - 15:38

  looks like the size of my mini router

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  d3ft on 03/12/2023 - 16:19

  Have one of these, works great and the legacy ports are actually super helpful. Can charge literally anything at max speed and easy to hide due to the figure 8 cord AC input.

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  Shashii on 03/12/2023 - 16:28

  +3

  @SmoothCactus Have you used this GAN charger before and would you recommend it?

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    Pusdi on 03/12/2023 - 17:16

    I was wondering the same

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    SmoothCactus on 04/12/2023 - 10:10

    +1

    I have not, and from the reports I've gathered over the last few months across the web, I would stay away from this one.

    I have a seperate comment going into it.

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  Dyl on 03/12/2023 - 17:08

  Have 2 of these, bought a few for friends. None have had problems yet. Happy customer.

  Paid around $80 each.

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    mikeoxlarge on 03/12/2023 - 18:01

    Is this Gan

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      Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 03/12/2023 - 19:33

      +1

      No it’s super silicon.

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        jc123 on 04/12/2023 - 00:11

        Will the GaN chargers go on sale?
        I'm curious what the size and weight difference is between this and the Powerpod 140W GaN 3 Travel Charger? The latter is more expensive, but if it's noticeably smaller, I would prefer the more portable option.
        (edit: found the details on the size/weight. This one is 113x80x28.5mm and 306g; GaN is 74x74x32mm and 319g)
        Hmmm…
        Thanks

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          Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 04/12/2023 - 07:40

          @jc123: Yes all our products will be listed on the Jingle sale page in the next few days. Your findings are correct about size and weight. Plus 140W can be converted into a desktop charger too.

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  Pusdi on 03/12/2023 - 17:19

  +1

  I don't think this is a GaN charger, hence the large size

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    mikeoxlarge on 03/12/2023 - 18:01

    About to jump on this luckyi didnt. Chargers can get insane temperatures if not gan

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      Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 03/12/2023 - 19:34

      Not this one. It runs warm but not too hot

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  manity on 03/12/2023 - 20:44

  Waiting for the same deal via Amazon prime thanks.

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    Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 04/12/2023 - 07:36

    On Amazon this charger on sale will be $59.99 without USB-IF cable and $64.99 with USB-IF cable. Unfortunately we cannot match the same price on Amazon.

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  pinchies on 03/12/2023 - 21:21

  Hello, @ibelievesyd, I sent a message via website last week and am yet to receive a response.

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    Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 04/12/2023 - 07:36

    Can you please send me a pm with your name?

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  diepjds on 03/12/2023 - 21:42

  +3

  I have this charger, the black version. It killed my Pixel 7 Pro screen after 1 overnight charge. The screen is black out and never turns on again. I wouldn't know it was because of the charger until the same thing happened to my SS A32. Same dead screen after 1 overnight charge. The charger did not negotiate the current with the phones, it just overcharge them, I guess.

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    Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 04/12/2023 - 11:52

    May I know which cable you were using on both occasions? Did you have any new third party app installed in both the phones? A loose connection of the Figure 8 cable?

    Also, did you contact us in this regard?

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  FlindersStud on 04/12/2023 - 03:59

  Can this really properly charge an XPS17? I am struggling to find a 130W charger that does not drain my battery as I am using the laptop simultaneously.

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    Associatedibelievesyd @ Zyron Tech on 04/12/2023 - 07:34

    Unfortunately not as that model needs a 6.5A output charger. Our chargers can do 5A max. XPS 17 will charge at 45W max with this charger.

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      FlindersStud on 04/12/2023 - 16:45

      Thanks for your reply. I asked because it's stated as "⚡100W USB-C CHARGER⚡Compatible with MacBook (16"/15" MacBook Pro), Dell XPS 13/15/17" above.

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  SmoothCactus on 04/12/2023 - 10:03

  +5

  Cactus ere

  I HAVE TO STRESS, these are rebadged/rebranded from what I understand, please correct me if I'm wrong.

  I have been seeing multiple reports for months now of this unit from both Zyron or others having catastrophic failures where they'll take devices out with them.

  Unfortunately it's hard to know how these OEM and many chargers are as you'll only see reviews of people's initial experiences of them working, and fewer than the number of people actually affected go back and report failures or issues as most would rather throw it out, move on with their day and get something else. So if you see a few reports of any cheap chargers acting up there's likely more you don't, you should be on alert because in my years of testing, issues are under reported across the board, and a few are always indicative of many.

  For this alone I'd advise some caution, probably give this one a skip unless you're really desperate. Saving a bit of money isn't worth burning your thousand dollar device, I speak from experience in that and I still haven't entirely recovered from the damage.

  ~~~

  I haven't tested this unit, but if it is as I suspect, then this isn't much of a sale. It's available on aliexpress from multiple vendors and particularly through WOTOBE (A fairly good charger company that much like Zyron make some good products, and have some rebadged bad products worth staying away from.

  I emphasize I haven't tested this particular unit, but I have tested a lot of 100w+ chargers that are oem/rebranded by other companies that sit at prices around or below $75 AUD and they often have corners cut that make it so that I would not feel safe ever advising others to use them.

  The best thing I can bring up to make some sense is to look at it's cost and of everything else. Look at the OEM cost from aliexpress, not what Zyron or anyone else sell it for regularly because that's marked up. For a 150w charger these are about $50-$60 on any day of the week. … This is insanely cheap and affordable. That should raise some red flags and alarms should be going off.

  Either a charger is good or it isn't. If it's good, it likely will never fail dangerously or destructively and if/when it dies it will naturally stop working after several years or a decade of just being worn out. But if there's an issue with it, it'll cause widespread and reaching issues that will pop up here and there in a matter of time, it won't just ever affect a few unlucky instances.

  My advice for chargers has always been to invest in something high power, with more ports than you need and that's decent because PD and QC are established enough that there aren't likely to be huge changes in the coming few years, and any great charger you buy now should last you 5yrs if not longer because they are like computer power supplies.. They don't really die when they're built decently.

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    abadacus on 05/12/2023 - 00:04

    +1

    So what are your recommendations for some good 100w+ chargers and where to buy them from?

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    GimmeCashback on 23/12/2023 - 22:00

    @SmoothCactus what 100w chargers do you recommend please?

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  jc123 on 04/12/2023 - 13:23

  +1

  I guess if you were gonna risk it and considered getting a cheap charger from Aliexpress (i.e. 1005005848266705), this is a viable alternative. Even if this is rebranded/OEM; it's presumably faster to ship, and they state they have a 2 yr warranty (who knows how easy this process is though; see other comments).
  This is also not a GaN charger, so perhaps that factors into its lower price?

  Regardless, @SmoothCactus suggestion to buying something quality that will last >5 years, vs something that will last 1 or 2 years is worth considering, especially if the risk is that it fries/damages your electronic device or causes a fire.
  However it's a bit hard to figure out the most reputable brands without digging into some niche subreddits, teardown sites and youtube channels… there's so many models and they can't cover them all.
  Satechi, aohi and SlimQ appears to be decent. Baseus is commonly highly rated too.
  From what I've read, Anker has dropped quality over the years according to users on the subreddit UsbCHardware.

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    harshbdmmaster718 on 05/12/2023 - 16:58

    from what I have read, don't buy based on brand alone. the same brand can make something bad, very ordinary and good.

    for example Anker has a reputation for being amazing. but I have tested a few of their power adapters with USB power meter, they fail to deliver proper 5V. most times around 4.7v~4.8v with load meaning it cuts it close to USB spec on the device end if using a long cable.

    I don't have much experience with USB PD/GaN so I can't comment on that.

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      Prong on 05/12/2023 - 19:32

      Inaccurate voltage regulation is certainly possible, but the drop you are seeing may be from contact and/or cable resistance, and losses / resistance in the meter, rather than the voltage regulation in the charger not outputting 5V.

      Typically most chargers output more like 5.1V to 5.2V, to help account for voltage drop. At 10W or more at 5V, anything but the best connectors and cables can easily result in 5% (or more) voltage drop.

      Out of interest, what meter are you using, and what is the setup?

      I was curious, so tried my FNB58 and DL24 load on a few chargers I have (including two Ankers). Depending on how I connect it, and what cables I use, at 10W load I can get anything from 5.15V on the FNB58, to about 4.85V. And down to about 4.6V measured by the load itself.

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        harshbdmmaster718 on 05/12/2023 - 19:37

        "Typically most chargers output more like 5.1V to 5.2V,"

        yeah that's what I like to see.

        I measured with USB meter on the charger side with cables I know are fine and support what they are rated for. mostly included cables from big brands (I don't bother shopping around for extra cables because I know quality can be hit and miss) and with their included power adapters there is no such voltage drop. I always see 5.1v. the best I have seen is actually is on the base station for my camera system, it puts out 5.2Xv with the same cable and funny enough Eufy is a brand by Anker.
        I tested on charging smart devices by the way with BMS which seems very common nowadays.

        I calculated once 4.9Xv is around the limit for me if I decide to use a slightly longer cable. so that told me 4.7 to 4.8 will go under that 10% margin with the longer cable.
        I also saw a couple review photos of power meter's showing Anker outputting as low as 4.6v. not good for a brand new product.

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          Prong on 06/12/2023 - 13:50

          @harshbdmmaster718:

          I know are fine and support what they are rated for

          I think you might be combining the charger spec rating, and the cable spec rating.

          For USB-C, the spec allows for cables to have up to a 0.75V drop. So with a perfectly regulated 5.2V charger, a cable can drop that to 4.45V and be in spec.

          The lesser voltage drop at lower power levels is still considerable. For example, an in spec 60W (20V 3A) cable will introduce up to 0.5V drop with a load drawing 5V, 2A (10W).

          Even a 20V, 5A (100W) cable will drop 5V, 2A by up to 0.3V.

          Real world there are additional sources of resistance, and the numbers you are seeing are well within the expected spec.

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            harshbdmmaster718 on 06/12/2023 - 18:29

            @Prong: "I think you might be combining the charger spec rating, and the cable spec rating."

            I am talking about power adapter spec with load measured with meter. no specs to do with cables.

            sorry can't comment on USB-C. I only measured 5V charging (meter only supports USB-A). only a few of my devices I use PD to charge 9V 2A and I haven't measured any of them.

            from what I read on USB certification website, is for 5V, tolerance (voltage drop) on device end should be less than 10%. with only 5% drop preferred. in other words I like to see 5.0V minimum on power adapter output with load, so the device is receiving a voltage of over 4.5v with my cable.

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              harshbdmmaster718 on 06/12/2023 - 20:14

              @harshbdmmaster718: not trying to be obtuse, but as I said the security camera base station with USB-A output (5V/3A max) puts out a measured consistent 5.28V with load while charging devices. so it's definitely possible.

              also to be fair, I know most things are moving to USB-C standards nowadays so the Anker power adapter's I tested had multiple USB-C ports and the USB-A output seemed like just a additional extra. I guess they don't but much priority on the USB-A output.

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                Prong on 07/12/2023 - 10:03

                @harshbdmmaster718:

                I am talking about power adapter spec with load measured with meter. no specs to do with cables.

                Cable rating in the USB spec applies to everything downstream of the charger output - your power meter included.

                USB power meter directly into the USB port is ideal, but you are measuring a combination of charger voltage + connection losses + usb power meter losses, with a margin of error dependent on the meter accuracy.

                While it can give a good indication, it's the first step to narrowing down what is causing the voltage drop. For example, some USB power meters are great, and others can be quite inaccurate. And connection resistance can vary wildly.

                I am not saying yours is or isn't accurate or that contact resistance is the culprit here - just pointing out how measuring voltage drop works.

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