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KAMRUI AK2 Plus Mini PC, Intel 12th Gen Alder Lake N100, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD $229.99 Shipped @ KAMRUI via Amazon AU

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I'm a fan of these N100 systems (I originally bought a CHUWI Larkbox X 100 for around $200 AUD when they were released in June 2023) and use one daily for my general web browsing, 1440p youtube playback (it supports both x265 and AV1 hardware decoding with output up to 4K 60Hz).

I've bought one of these KAMRUI units as I like that the SSD can be easily upgraded and this is the first N100 chipset system I've seen where the RAM isn't soldered onto the motherboard, so the geek in me wants to benchmark the system with faster DDR4 to see what (if any) performance difference it makes.

There is a tick box for a $210 discount on the amazon web page, click that and add to checkout to get it for $229.

I'll follow up when mine arrives on saturday.

About the item:

【 Latest 12th Intel Alder Lake- N100】KAMRUI Mini computer is built-in faster&newest 12th Intel Alder Lake- N100 processors(max up to 3.4GHz, 4C/4T, 6MB L3 Cache), Power consumption is only 6W. The mini pc is noticeably faster and a better performer and has lower power consumption delivering over 20% of performance improvement over the Intel N5105 and N5095 CPU.

[16GB DDR+512GB SSD, Support Expansion]—-KAMRUI MINI PC GK3 PLUS 16GB Mini PC with large storage to save big files, enhance running speed and make your work more efficiency, support to flexibly expand storage by adding 2.5" SATA SSD/HDD or Inserting a mobile hard drive into USB3.0/2.0 interface, also supports Wake On LAN, PXE Boot, RTC Wake and Auto Power On.

[UHD 4K & Triple Screens Display Support]—-KAMRUI micro computer is built-in Intel UHD Graphics that ensures faster image processing and featured 4K UHD(4096x2160@60Hz) video playback. Support triple display through 2HDMI and 1VGA interface for different tasks in the same time,greatly improving the work efficiency and saving unnecessary working procedure,Ideal for visually home entertainment, home office, conference room, etc.

[Stable WiFi 5 and Bluetooth 4.2]—- Windows 11 Small PC have reliable and stable wireless connection, Opening website in seconds,watch movie without buffering and download files fluently, Connect the monitor by WiFi or Ethernet, Use a wireless keyboard and mouse through bluetooth 4.2, that will be powerful workstation for you.

[What You Will Get]—-Package content will include 1Tiny PC,1 HDMI cable,1VESA mount,1 power supply and 1*user manual, We also provide 1-year product satisfaction and Lifetime Technical Support Service,If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us in any time.

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    • I bought this deal and thought I'd follow up. The RAM is removable as described, I have not tried other sticks of ram but I don't imagine it would be an issue.

      The SSD is a whole thing though. Yes it is technically upgradable it's an M2 SSD which can be taken out, I did get it to boot on another machine but could never install another OS on it other than the one it came with. Computers always acted oddly when I put the SSD into them (wouldn't boot to an install OS, etc) and putting a new SSD into the NUC prevents it from booting which I've never seen before. Very sus imo.

      • That's odd, I have a Kamrui i5 12450H and it's fine with whatever SSD I put in it.

        • I believe this have been my own fault. I think it's an M2 Sata drive, not NVMe which is why it wasn't working as expected.
          Doesn't explain all the behaviour but does explain most of it.

  • +1

    In the description it says it comes with an EU adaptor..

    • I'll find out tomorrow if it has AU power or not.

    • I bought one of these last night, and just turned it on. It's an AU plug.

    • it comes with an AU power adapter (a small 'wall wart' like a mobile phone power supply) - 12V, 2.5 Amps

      • Mine not comes in AU adapter. Just 2 flat pins

  • I’ve got a bunch (4) of old single USB hard drives.
    How would this go hosting them all on a SMB share? Is there enough power?

  • +1

    Just keep in mind that the RAM is single channel, so you may only have modest performance gains from installing faster RAM.

    • correct.. yeah it's off - the Kamrui is the only n100 based mini PC I've seen with a RAM slot - the rest of them have the RAM soldered to the motherboard. A 'disappointing' thing about the Kamrui is the wifi/bt module is soldered to the motherboard, when again most have them in an M2 slot and can be swapped over. One thing I have noticed is that all the Kamrui models all appear to use the same case and potentially similar motherboards between the N95 and N100 versions, so I'm guessing it's the factory where they are produced all using the majority of the same components for bulk buy / ease of manufacture. All of the buy off the shelf PCs are built to the lowest price point to appeal to consumers.

  • can i play dota with this on max settings?

  • whoa! looks like it has sold out already.

    • +3

      Good, now I can stop thinking about buying one!

      • haahh it'll haunt you! :) I've been watching the prices and wanting to buy a second N100 for months, this is essentially an early birthday present for myself.

    • The Kamrui and Beelink deals seem a bit dodgy, there's only ever a small number.

  • Having $200 budget I would go for a laptop with a dead screen/lid. It's possible to be 8th gen in this budget, and it will be more upgradeable and reliable, possibly with faster GPU, + with battery. The only neg is size.

  • +1

    "Currently unavailable".

    Translation. We posted it for the wrong price. And as soon as a few OzBargainers jumped on the deal we realised and pulled it from sale.

    • +1

      nah it wasn't a wrong price, I've been monitoring N100 pricing on amazon for months now as I've been wanting to buy a second one and various brands tend to float around the $250 mark for the 16GB RAM models, 8GB RAM slightly cheaper (but I wouldn't recommend getting any of the boxes with 8GB RAM unless you're going to use it just as an emulation or media playback box, most mini PCs using N100 have the RAM soldered to the motherboard).

  • Just be aware that the Windows 11 that comes on it doesn't seem 100%. The initialization prompts and the booted up screens look "different". The PC would say Windows is already activated with a digital licence. If you are worried about possible malwares and try to reinstall a full copy of Windows from MS on top it would say no digital licence found.

    It's not a problem for me as I have always intended to run Linux/Home Assistant/Firefox on it, but if you are Windows only, you may need to allow for a proper Windows license.

    • agreed.. never trust any PC with the OS pre-installed. That said, ~$20 AUD for an online windows 11 key isn't a hassle to find. That's what I did with the first N100 mini PC I bought. Using it now in preference to my gaming Pc which hogs more power in an hour than the mini PC does in 24 hours.

      • where can we get an online Win11 key for ~$20AUD? The best deal I found was $25USD…thanks in advance!

        • +1

          I don't think I can directly link - but check out Tech Yes City videos - he has a sponsor who does Windows 11 keys for about $16 USD after discount coupon.

          • @gizmomelb: When you buy cheap windows keys you are just giving scammers money.

            IMO either buy it retail, or use one of the easy to find method to activate without license.

            • @Aureus: I'm sure there are scam sites out there, however I've been using online cheap OS keys for well over 16 years and never had a key fail / be rejected once.

              • +1

                @gizmomelb: They are selling keys for development environments or volume license. They will work fine. I have a bunch of these keys from MS and they don't get revoked.

                No point paying $22 for a key, when MS gets $0 and only the scammers get paid.

        • +2

          Google Tiny11.

          Tiny PC. Tiny11.

    • Can you use magic jelly bean to pull the license key off and re-reg like the old Windows 10 days?

      • I'll let you know tomorrow :)

      • +1

        Interestingly, magic jelly bean pulls the licence as BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB

        • maybe the licence is in BIOS? Can you please try Nirsoft's ProduKey as it finds keys in BIOS. Thank you.

        • Ok that does seem likely dodgy then!

          • +1

            @hamwhisperer: Ya. Unless I'm doing something wrong. But I can't seem to get a proper licence off it.
            Anyways, I'll be reinstalling win 11. I've got a spare key.

            • +1

              @SueyJitSu: thanks for checking - yeah the Windows 11 licence that came with the CHUWI Larkbox x 2023 was 'dodgy' as well - CHUWI have the entire windows 11 image for reloading onto a new drive etc. and it's pre-registered. Seems to be quite common with all in one pre-configured PCs. Which is why I'll buy another $16 USD Windows 11 key and do a clean install (if I'm not impressed with Libreelec or Batocera / Kodi).

  • +9

    Its interesting to see the SUV mentality when a low powered system like this is posted. What could anything this small and low powered and non-expandable possibly be any use for they say. Well, just like a Toyota Yaris will do nearly all things you want and need to do car related - commuting, shopping, getting around - but you buy a Toyota SUV so it'll do everything you could possibly imagine wanting to do ever, no matter how rarely, low powered PCs can do most of things that nearly everyone does most of the time. Anything on the internet. Anything officey. They just won't do the heavy lifting of gaming. Which, and this might surprise you, most people don't do.

    • you nailed it in one there brother.

  • -1

    Looks cool and all, aren’t the problem with these they’re Uber slow, like a $200 iPhone is faster

    • +1

      I'm sorry but what are you talking about? I'm using one now and do so for daily work from home stuff as well, it's snappy with multiple chrome tabs open and 1440p output.

      • check geekbench 5 results 900ish, iphone se 2 at 1300

        it’s like common knowledge these are underpowered for any real work, if you’re doing some light browsing probably ok, geekbench is a decent measure on how snappy your experience will be. the se 3 is almost twice as fast

        • +2

          I'm very well aware of what the usage is like, because I've been using another Intel N100 based system as my main desktop for home and work from home for months. So forgive my shaking my head at you not knowing what you're talking about. Please see GordonD's comment about SUV mentality.

          • @gizmomelb: again depends on workload, any sort of computation and it’s pretty low rank on speed, if you’re not doing any computation you’re not going to feel a difference

            like run this on your machine and report findings, I get 523 on a se3

            https://mozilla.github.io/krakenbenchmark.mozilla.org/

            ill take a used dell pc or an I phone over a n100 any day of the week,

            • +4

              @abctoz: you do you - I don't know of anyone who tends to do heavy computational work in the background when they're doing their nightly web browsing other than crypto bros. Also you wouldn't be buying a $200 mini pc if you needed a high computational workload.

              For having a youtube video play, with 6-12 other tabs open in Chrome, MS TEAMS and O365 etc. open it still feels snappy to me.

        • +1

          it’s like common knowledge these are underpowered for any real work

          You're not going to be using a $250 mini PC for "real" computational work, you have to set your expectations realistically.

          • -1

            @deadpoet: It’s not even computation work I posted 2 JavaScript benchmarks

            I think I saw a 6700 sff pc for $90 a while back which would be faster than these, just doesn’t seem like a good value proposition to me, other than fooling noobs with the cool factor

            I know this guy who spent $500 on one of these for autocad, a while later he bought an actual pc wonder why…

            • +4

              @abctoz: "I know this guy who spent $500 on one of these for autocad, a while later he bought an actual pc wonder why…"

              because they were a smeg head who didn't know what the specifications of what they needed, nor did they research what they bought… that's why.

              • @gizmomelb: I’m not sure if researching helps judging by the deals that frequent this place, and how people are oblivious to benchmarks and which ones are important. like he overpaid a bit but that’s how most people end up learning by being burned, this applies to me too. atom pcs are just way underpowered vs how much they cost imo

                there are decently powered mini pcs with eg ryzen 7s in them, as long as you have a desktop class processor you’ll be fine. generation doesn’t matter too much anything x86 hasn’t moved much in 10 years- good luck finding this information with research amongst all the hip reviewers that seem to care more about aesthetics and how much money they get from sponsors

                something like this will give you more performance for cheaper, you can find very small versions too similar in size and power consumption to a mini pc, my sff uses a laptop charging brick

                https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/185671064177

                • +3

                  @abctoz: What exactly do you think people are trying to do with these machines ?

                  For basic desktop use, you don't need performance or benchmarks or a Ryzen 7 🤷🏼‍♂️ These basic machines are absolutely fine for normal desktop use.

                  It's a $200 computer.

                  • @Nom: they’re not that’s my point, my $200 iPhone is faster

                    a lot of people will be disappointed

                    you can find faster for cheaper

                    these were originally cheap knockoffs of macminis, except apple was decent enough to put a desktop class processor

                    if you don’t value your time then these are ok but prepare to be disappointed

        • But an iPhone is a smartphone, not a desktop PC. Sports car vs ute, fighter jet vs cargo freighter etc.

          Different hardware for different tasks.

          • @Dogsrule: I’m trying to make a comparison on how bad the performance is on the mini pc, if you have the power of imagination then think of a bicycle first, now imagine it going faster than a car

            • @abctoz:

              if you have the power of imagination then think of a bicycle first, now imagine it going faster than a car

              I just don't think it's appropriate to compare a smartphone to a PC - they both do things the other literally cannot. Its only relevant to compare PC to PC, smartphone to smartphone.

              Btw, I actually own an N100 mini PC (Beelink EQ12 Pro) - it's not as fast as the 12th gen i5 Dell Optiplex at work, but for basic web browsing and office work it's more like the difference between a Corolla and a Supra, not a bike and a car.

              We'll have to agree to disagree on this one I think.

              • -1

                @Dogsrule: I’m just showing that when running benchmarks, the phone is running off a 2000mAh battery and winning… are you saying this comparison is invalid

                I’m too lazy to check but have a hunch you can get pi knockoffs with similar speed now

                • +1

                  @abctoz: dude - keep using your phone if you're happy with that. It's obvious you have no idea what the n100 chipset performs like apart from paper benchmarks. You haven't bothered looking at any of the (hundreds?) of videos on youtube showing it run games and benchmark (as that appears to float your boat - rather than actually using a device).

                  Nobody is being forced to buy a low power consumption PC and there will be people out there that this small, silent and low wattage using PC will perform fine for. As said, I only use my gaming desktop now when I want to play AAA games - otherwise the mini pc does all my email, web browsing, youtube, torrenting and minor gaming with no issues at all.

                  You mention Atoms - yes they were severely underpowered. The Intel N100 is not an Atom.
                  The N100 is still (about twice as) faster performance wise than a raspberry pi 5 and about the same cost once you add up ssd storage, case and power supply - oh and that's only a pi 5 with 8GB RAM, not 16GB RAM.

                  My Kamrui was delivered this afternoon but a family get together got in my way of checking it out. That'll be a job for me on sunday.

                  Everyone - let's let abctoz enjoy his phone, they obviously do not get that lower power devices can do more than they think they can (home automation, pfsense firewall/router, NAS controller etc.). Arguing with someone with a closed mind is a waste of time.

                • @abctoz:

                  are you saying this comparison is invalid

                  Yes! A smartphone can't do everything a Windows/Linux desktop PC can do, no matter how fast it can run benchmarks.

                  Again, it's like a sportscar vs a ute - I don't care how fast it can drive if it can't haul a load for me, and these mini PC's are just fine at the computing equivalent of 'hauling a load', unlike a smartphone.

                  Can an iPhone drive 2x 4k monitors like my Beelink? How many USB A ports does it have?

                  • @Dogsrule: comparing speed of processors using a benchmark is not valid because a mini pc can do things a phone cannot?

                    is this really the argument you’re trying to make

                    you can compare any two things on a given metric, only the ozbargain police will shout apples vs oranges, but in the real world nobody cares

                  • +2

                    @Dogsrule: @dogsrule - look at abctoz's comments on here and you'll notice a (negative) pattern, don't engage the troll.

                    • @gizmomelb: Yeah fair enough, got sucked in there for a while haha.

        • +3

          I did a geekbench 5 benchmark on this mini pc just now and the result was 900 single and 2045 multi.
          Either way, it's doing exactly what I need it to do. Connect to a NAS, be an emby server, and download stuffs on the high seas when needed.

  • would this play high end movie torrent's, like 20gb ?

    • +2

      yes, it easily plays 4K resolution HDR10+ and Dolby Vision / Atmos movie rips (using Kodi, which is what I'll be using this specific box for. I know it handles it as I have another N100 based box and tested it out, that is why I wanted a second box).

  • Would this or something similar be good for a 6-year-old? I'm considering getting one as a present.

    Main goals:
    1) blind typing training
    2) Scratch or Python as the first programming language
    3) Linux as the first operating system

    Or maybe it's too early for a kid of that age?

    • +2

      it's a computer, it does what all computers do. This one just happens to do it silently and with very little power usage. It's up to the kid what they want to do / learn on it. Also it's small enough to mount behind the monitor (comes with the bracket) or on the wall / under a desk etc. so it's out of the way.

  • +8

    I bought the AK1 Plus with 16GB RAM (N95 compared to the N100 for this deal) around Christmas and it's been doing well.
    I also had doubts like lots of people here but this is my experience so far:

    Plugged it all in, logged onto windows and went online to check that Win11 PRO was activated and it was.
    I placed a 2TB SSD in the 2nd drive slot for data (as they claim that's the max capacity supported).
    Installed Macrium Reflect Free and backed up to the 2nd drive (in case I needed to get anything back).

    Installed a clean fresh Win 11 PRO (made with the media creation tool from MS on my main PC) and removed all existing partitions during the install.
    Logged on, went online and Win 11 PRO was activated.
    Ran windows updates and installed the drivers with Driver Easy (free mode, manually update drivers after download).
    Everything seems to work fine, I use it to play movies on our TV. Windows feels responsive and have had no lockups, delays or any issues so far.

    It has no issue playing UHD Bluray files (played a 47GB file fine last night).
    It is very quiet, but seems to run slightly hot (in my opinion), 50C+ at Idle, ~80C under workload (not stress test).
    I haven't heard the fan yet, so it's either completely silent or not working?
    There's a video on their support forums that shows you how to take it apart, but I have not done that yet …

    My 2 cents, hope this answers some of the questions I have seen above.

    • Have one also. Much the same experience as your comments also

  • Anyone knows if these new nucs can you fit 2 fat 2.5 HDD inside? Like those shuckable 5TB? My nuc can only fit one drive inside, but I want one with a bit more room for a mirror external backup.

  • +1

    here's some interesting info on how the N100 handles transcoding for plex / jelly fin, as well as power usage and running as a home server. I'm disappointed to learn the Kamrui A2K plus has the wifi module soldered to the motherboard, but personally I won't be using the wifi so it's not a loss for me. the video also compares the Kamrui N100 to an HP G3 mini.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PisIPpbMkTc

    • I watched that video recently and the hp g3 mini looks good if you can get it cheaper than the kamrui

      • +1

        Caveat emptor.

        Since I'm going to be using this in my loungeroom to play 4K movies - I want something silent (no fan noises) that will run Kodi, have snappy performance when dealing with Kodi's database of art and other metadata, consume low amounts of energy, as well as be able to handle x86_64 emulation so I can play PS2, Gamecube, Wii, Wiiu, Ps3 and Nintendo switch games off an internal drive (and not need to plug in external USB drives etc. So the device itself can be picked up and taken to a different house etc. Android boxes with S922 chipsets are around the same price or more expensive so I chose the best option for me - then shared the cheaper price offer on here. The only advantage android boxes had from my list of desires was that they support HDMI CEC, which the N100 chipset does not appear to do.

        • True, I guess it depends on the use case. I think all I want is something lowish powered to run docker for: pihole, and home assistant.

          I have been running pihole on a pi zero 2w and that's fine, but would like to experiment with home assistant so need something with a bit more computational power.

          • @smokenmirraz: N100 seems ideal for your use case then.

            • @skittlebrau: If you watched the video that gizmomelb linked, it does a comparison of n100 vs much older HP g3 mini PC, comparing up front cost and lifetime cost. Up front cost for the hp g3 is maybe $100 cheaper at these prices from eBay, but lifetime electricity costs will likely be higher.

              • +1

                @smokenmirraz: IGPU capabilities would be the deciding factor then. In my particular case, I wanted AV1 decode for 1080p/4K.

                • +1

                  @skittlebrau: IGPU capabilities would be the deciding factor then. In my particular case, I wanted AV1 decode for 1080p/4K.

                  the N100 chipset has AV1 decoding in hardware, pi5 does not. N100 also support HEVC/VP9 econding in hardware in case you want to install Plex and transcode videos from one format or resolution to another.

                  • @gizmomelb: Yep, that’s why I bought one for LibreELEC.

                    • @skittlebrau: I still don't know if the N100 chipset supports HDMI CEC or not (the previous NUCs did), or whether it just hasn't been implemented as yet. Is a minor annoyance of needing to physically switch it on, but I haven't tested the power draw if putting the device into suspend mode - something to add to my list.

                      • +1

                        @gizmomelb: I have a FLIRC USB hooked up to mine and it goes into sleep/suspend mode and wakes up properly when triggered by a universal IR remote, or any USB input such as air mouse, keyboard etc.

                        It mentions CEC in the BIOS, but I have my doubts about it actually working.

  • Will this play Minesweeper? Asking for a friend.

  • Can you replace Wifi and BT?

    My order has just shipped

    • +1

      the Kamrui has the wifi / BT module soldered on the motherboard, most other N100 mini PCs have the module in an M2 slot where you can swap them over if wanted. At worst if you wanted wifi 6 with the Kamrui you'd need to plug in an USB version.

  • +3

    My unit just arrived and it won't turn on. There's a coil whine when I connect the power cable, but pressing the power button does nothing. This is very disappointing.

    • that's unfortunate but I guess that's what buying from a local vendor and warranty is for, not to mention Amazon's good return policy (if you don't like it, return for full refund within 30 days).

      I'm surprised there is a coil whine, since there aren't any coils in the pc or the PSU…. so seems hard to believe.

      • I took a further look, and it seems like the power button on the motherboard had snapped off. I considered jerry rigging something up, but it would have been a hassle long term.

        Annoyingly, Amazon only provides refunds for marketplace sellers, not replacements.

        Maybe it wasn't coil wine. I could hear a faint high pitch noise from the computer when plugged in to power.

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