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Well, compared to some of the random Shopify sites, this one at least looks linked to a physical store :)
I was just double checking I read the name right, is it a fence made out of flesh or two dudes fencing with flesh and what does that have to do with clothes. Or clothes are like a fence for your flesh? Fence as in sell, you need sell your flesh to buy this? It just keeps making more questions.
From their Google map page:
Response from the owner 3 weeks ago
flesh is the skin, fence to cover it up (Cloths)
So just bad translation?
fence made out of flesh
Brutal
You too can look like John Howard exercising!!!!!!
Idk I feel I’m really more a business casual, jacket but no tie Kevin Rudd hand ball type operator
I don't have the eyebrows to walk in those shoes.
I was going to place the order until I saw your comment, the image of JH exercising is really too much to unseen
That’s because you haven’t seen Bill Shorten running…
https://tenor.com/en-AU/view/shorten-boobs-bill-shorten-runn…
Can I bowl as shit as him?
Excited for comments, Ty OP for entertainment
i love our country but do we ever get any nice gear? ?
Nah. All thr good patriotic designers are hard at work on inflatable thongs with flags on them.
What exactly are you expecting?
I dont know when the world cup comes around nations like France, UK, USA etc all get some nice gear
its because companies in many countries take pride in selecting high quality clothing to sell, Australia just goes "is it the cheapest, yes ok ill buy 1000"
Can I get one in my size at Woolies?
BigW would have it
Yep, send it to a parcel locker at your local Woolies.
Good price,thanks.
Hope everyone had a lovely Australia Day 🇭🇲
& Allah, Unkulunkulu, Jehovah, Isha, L. Ron, etc etc
Well I specifically meant the God of the Bible, the only true God.
@m0usju1c3: Why not FSM? If you were bought up in a different household, you may feel just as strongly about FSM.
@ihfree: Why not 2+2=5? If you were brought up in a different household, you may feel just as strongly that 2+2=5.
@highguy88: Good point. You'll probably have issues at school.
Hopefully, you have enough influence that you can think for yourself and change your beliefs when there is more evidence.
@1st-Amendment: Lol. Comedy gold from a blind adherent to the cults of opinionated ignorance and anti-knowledge/ntellectualism.
Go to the mirror boy.
@1st-Amendment: Your regular rw inanities on the website should suffice? How's your homework coming along? First step would be to ask someone to help your internet and show you how to search for reputable and reliable information.
Your regular rw inanities on the website should suffice?
Which ones specifically?
What specifically have I said that you disagree with?
You see this is how to science works. You don't just wave you haha stuff with vague claims you have to be precise.First step would be to ask someone
I just did.
For someone who claims to be the high priest of sCiEnCe you can never demonstrate even the basics…Which ones specifically?
"your regular rw inanities on the website should suffice?"
Which of your regular inanities? Woops, your subconscious seems to have won the day there. But to answer what you probably meant to ask - there's at least handful on the Brookvale ginger beer deal alone. And, despite your propensity for not being specific (we know why, it's a common trait of a particular demographic), your comment history is littered with them. Is my generlising causing you angst? The irony.What specifically have I said that you disagree with?
Is there something wrong with your comprehension or memory? I've already told you in pretty much every response
For someone who claims to be the high priest of sCiEnCe you can never demonstrate even the basics…
You may be a dunce in writing, logic, arguing and anything science related but you're an A-Grade straw man builder.
I've already said elsewhere that YOUR lack of knowledge and acumen doesn't automatically make me an expert or oracle. Far from it. Since that went over your head I'll make it even simpler with an analogy . A graduate (or even most adults) may be smarter than a newborn, but compared to say, Einstein, they're all relatively [sic] unintelligent. I have no special scientiifc credentials that would grant me "high priest" status, in fact I'm comfortable in saying that compared to every climate scientist on the planet I'm profoundly ignorant on the topic (some scientists are socially ignorant, but that's a different story). Feel free to cut and paste and misrepresent what I just wrote if it helps your ego. Where does that leave you on the scale of igniorance I hear you ask? Allow me to assist yet again - abjectly ignorant seems a more than fair fit so far.First step would be to ask someone
I just did.Did what? If you're going to cut and paste at least try to keep a modicum of context. That ploy is not only puerile and old hat, it's D-K worthy.
@Igaf: So you can't produce an actual example to support you claims… Again…
Can you see the pattern yet?
@1st-Amendment: Sleepless night?
I can certainly see a pattern - of repetitious, self-induced ignorance, uninformed opinion, and juvenile acuity which, if you understood the language you attempt to use, is certainly within the bounds of the word inane. Just so you can gird your loins, I haven't finished exposing your climate change ignorance yet, as you'll soon see on the other thread.
Sleepless night?
Yet another false assumption… the pattern repeats…
I can certainly see a pattern - of repetitious, self-induced ignorance, uninformed opinion, and juvenile acuity…
Same… except I can support my claims with evidence… one day you'll figure out what that is…
Yet another false assumption… the pattern repeats…
You do understand what that punctuation mark after the word 'night' is suggesting presumably? Woops there's another one. There are obviously other possibilities, but that wasn't the point of my remark was it? Woops, same punctuation, different connotation. Context is always important, as is basic comprehension. Keep trying, you'll eventually graduate to junior high school level, perhaps even further if you take off those ideological blinkers.
@highguy88: Luckily, Mathematics is the one true universal belief.
Well, at least until aliens come down and tell us we've been doing it wrong this whole time! ;)
@highguy88: That kind of thing certainly has historical precedent:
https://askaphilosopher.org/2011/09/19/pythagoreans-and-the-…@highguy88: 2+2=5 is only possible in a secular/atheistic worldview, because it lacks any solid foundation to base any presuppositions upon. Only the Christian worldview can provide a coherent basis for the fact of 2+2=4.
@m0usju1c3: 2+2=4 isn't a fact but it's far more credible than the hypocrisy of most religions and some of their flock (Abbott and Morrison being just two obvious and egregious examples).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WPY5cfOOIM&ab_channel=Sabin…
@Eeples: Although its a widely accepted idea, the Gods of Islam and Christianity are very different. Islam teaches of a single entity and person God, where as Christianity reveals a trinitarian God; 1 entity, 3 persons: Father, Son & Spirit.
Moral code and means of salvation are vastly different in both religions too.
@m0usju1c3: There are many versions of the Bible as you should know.
Which "God" do you follow - the Old or New Testament God, or do you think the punitive/retributive OT God is no different to Jesus? While you're there do you endorse Old Testament teachings?
@Igaf: Well, as I mentioned above, there is no distinction between Old/New Testament "Gods." There is one, trinitarian God of both the Old and New covenants.
Regarding OT teachings, they must now be viewed in light of the New Testament, which i briefly summarise as all being fulfilled by Jesus living the perfect and sinless life that none of us are capable of. However, this doesn't invalidate the OT. It can't be simply thrown under the bus, as it serves as a standard for civil and moral laws. The main takeaway is that the OT covenant of animal sacrifices, etc. Is now void, as Jesus, being sinless (spotless lamb, as he's referred to, channelling OT sacrificial system), has fulfilled that covenant perfectly and thus ushered in a New covenant of grace.
@m0usju1c3: I suggest you read what open minded scholars say about the OT. Even a cursory glance at history will show that the notion it is or ever was a standard for civil laws is nonsense. It's also often highly morally compromised.
Your apparently blind adherence to wishy washy notions of grace and (undefined) morality serve religion poorly imo. History shows that 'religious morality' is often an oxymoron, although individuals can certainly be 'moral'. Fanatic, blinkered "morals" are contrary to Jesus' teachings and regularly clash with normal human mores.
There are many good and useful things about most religions. Blind adherence to teachings is not one of them
I suggest you read what open minded scholars say about the OT. Even a cursory glance at history will show that the notion it is or ever was a standard for civil laws is nonsense. It's also often highly morally compromised.
I couldn't take any "scholar" seriously that would ever come to that conclusion. Perhaps if they somehow skipped entire books of the OT, I could possibly understand. Besides, as per all scholarship, there's always a wide ranging opinion, it's up to you to determine if their conclusions are correct. They're not the final authority on the matter.
Your apparently blind adherence to wishy washy notions of grace and (undefined) morality serve religion poorly imo. History shows that 'religious morality' is often an oxymoron, although individuals can certainly be 'moral'. Fanatic, blinkered "morals" are contrary to Jesus' teachings and regularly clash with normal human mores.
The adherence is to the revealed NT scriptures, and what they contain and teach, simple. The NT scriptures are the most accurate and critically analysed works of antiquity in the world. No other historical document comes close to it's accuracy of transmission and ancient record of manuscripts.
What exactly is "wishy washy" about the doctrines of Grace as taught in the NT?
As for morals, it's interesting you're choosing to criticise this, as I'm very eager to know what your convictions are? Faith, if any?There are many good and useful things about most religions. Blind adherence to teachings is not one of them
I'm not here to defend 'religion', but the only true faith as revealed by the OT & NT scriptures, and it's not blind adherence if those scriptures are the most proven, historically accurate documents of antiquity the world has ever seen.
I couldn't take any "scholar" seriously that would ever come to that conclusion.
And therein lies the problem. Your faith blinds you so much that you refuse to see nuance and obviously want to sweep the Bible's horrific, inhuman and immoral passages from your consciousness. Will you give up all wealth or do you think you can thread that needle? Will you have the village stone your disobedient child? Do you agree that slavery is okay? Do you really believe that the history of Bible followers - based on their interpretation of the writings in the Bible - has been moral and civil? Just one of a multitude of examples, but he Irish Catholic Church - and many others - lost their moral authority a long time ago.
Doctrines may not be wishy washy - in fact they're regularly far from it, which is part of the reason why we shouldn't simply accept them as "God's word/teachings". What is wishy washy is your blind adherence and belief in their rectitude.
There is no proof of a god, or miracles, only belief. The bible was written and interpreted by humans - mostly patriarchal men, some of obviously highly questionable morality. It has some good messages and some extremely evil. If the latter reflects your God's word then 'God help us all' (that's irony in case it wasn't obvious).
And therein lies the problem. Your faith blinds you so much that you refuse to see nuance and obviously want to sweep the Bible's horrific, inhuman and immoral passages from your consciousness.
Convenient of you to leave out the rest of the paragraph. The rest of your arguments are very old and tired which have been rebuked numerous times, but unfortunately the internet allows these shallow arguments to prevail. If you did just a bit of reading and research, you would already know that some parts of the bible are to be interpreted literally, while at other times there is a meaning, lesson or purpose behind what is being said (like the analogy of wealth and threading of needles). It comes down to context, original languages and historical circumstances. You would also know that the timelines of history of which the bible was being recorded was a very different world than the one we live in currently.
has been moral and civil?
some of obviously highly questionable morality
It has some good messages and some extremely evil
Now here in lies the point I was trying to get at within my last question to you, which is still unanswered. What are your beliefs, convictions or faith, if any? You sit there like a great judge, presupposing like you possess the ultimate standards of good, moral, evil, civil etc. But the ones who are in fact adhering to blind faith, are indeed the atheistic and secular, such as yourself. You have no presuppositions or ultimate standard of truth to stand on. According to your worldview, we are mere accidents floating through space, frozen nothings. From where can you even begin to understand reason, sense of our world, intelligibility, philosophy or morality?
@m0usju1c3: Unfortunately (for me not you) I just lost my long first reply so I'll keep this relatively short.
You haven't answered my questions because they challenge your blind adherence to the sanctity and moral superiority of the Bible, a recent construct of patriarchal males supposedly doing God's will. Just so i know your position - is the Bible God's work or not?
you would already know that some parts of the bible are to be interpreted literally, while at other times there is a meaning, lesson or purpose behind what is being said (like the analogy of wealth and threading of needles).
Yes I know a lot about the way relgious people manipulate, and wave away contradictions ("God gave us free will" being the best safety net ever invented). How opportune for Bible bashers and acolytes. Cherry pick the immutable moralities but "interpret" the numerous hypocrisies - including the 6th Commandment - and inconvenient teachings. Are you an adherent of prosperity theology like Morrison by chance? When is it okay to kill/murder/massacre or turn a blind eye to same?
I don't claim to posses any great moral or ethical characteristics, but I have a very good radar for hypocrisy and religious blindness. You've made many wrong claims regarding the Bible, which in the OT is riddled with the amoral teachings of ignorant, patriarchal humans seeking to control others and entrench their own wealth and power.
I'm actually agnostic - not atheist - because I haven't got the capacity to understand the universe let alone conceive of the existence of an enigmatic and extremely flawed higher power - a power which randomly inflicts huge pain and sugffering on innocents despite supposedly having supreme powers. You on the other hand believe that before the universe a God just WAS, and that human religious teachings and writings in the Bible reflect that God's 'moral' plan for us (except where they need our special "interpretation" of course). Apparently this deity decided about 2700 years ago that humans had evolved enough that he/she/it would get them to write some rules governing behaviour, ethics and morals (the slavery teachings are especially highly principled as you know). But that didn't go well so a bloke called Jesus needed to fix things up, and die for his efforts. The following 2000+ years shows the great success of Christ's death, religion and humanity - sundry inquisitions, massacres of followers of different religions, abuse of children, preservation of power and influence, abject failure to act on great moral issues etc etc etc.
From where can you even begin to understand reason, sense of our world, intelligibility, philosophy or morality?
Are you really suggesting that non-religious people aren't capable of any of that? Or indeed that religious people - esp those with power and influence - are models for ANY of them? Did you miss the Royal Commission into abuse - just one egregious example repeated in every country where enquiries were implemented. The sanctity of the Roman Catholic confessional and shielding of mother church and its agents over protection of the innocent. Can't get much more moral than that.
What are my beliefs? I believe many things, including that blinkered religiousity is dangerous and hypocritical and that "grace" is largely a crutch sold by vested interests and charlatans. I also believe (know) that there are many good, decent and ethical religious, agnostic and atheistic people.
As for "truth". You seem to have confused belief with truth, a not uncommon failure.
@Igaf: I've answered your question already multiple times but you've chosen to disregard it and keep raising your straw man argument of "blind adherence". The adherence isn't blind, there's a entire bible there which consists of multiple doctrines, history records, revealing of God's character, nature, plans for the world and salvation, free to any who would read or hear it.
I don't claim to posses any great moral or ethical characteristics, but I have a very good radar for hypocrisy and religious blindness.
Thank you for submitting that you have no solid foundation for your worldview. The hypocrisy lies with you my friend. How can you identify hyporcrisy, bad morality or ethics, if you don't claim to have any ultimate standards for them? To what do you compare them to? This sentence of yours is contradictory in of itself. You not only admit that you don't have a solid foundation for your worldview, ethics, morality, reason etc. but you go so far to say that you don't possess any of it at all! How can you then make accusations of any kind?
I'd highly recommend you listen to some debates regarding the existence of God, specifically with bible believing Christians.
Please give some time to listen to this classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fegBF-jyrBY
It features a very prominent skeptic, Dr Gordon Stein.
Thank you for submitting that you have no solid foundation for your worldview.
Blind addiction to religious teachings AND the comprehension of a tweenager [sic]? Never good combinations. YOU may require religious instruction to form humane/moral/ethical views and philosophies, many of us don't.
How can you identify hyporcrisy, bad morality or ethics, if you don't claim to have any ultimate standards for them?
Did I suggest that was the case, or did your unquestioning mind assume there was no other way to learn and develop personal and societal standards other than through the flawed and contradictory Bible and/or Christian indoctrination? Twice you've made the same ignorant claim so it must be the latter.
Perhaps you should ask yourself - or your God - how it is that Christians can have a very wide variety of views on topics like sexuality, euthanasia, contraception, divorce, "marriage", poverty, corruption etc when they've 'all' apparently been given the same "key to morailty"? Then you might also ask yourself why Christian leaders in this country are so concerned about the sex lives of others and the rights of religions to discriminate that they've relegated far more pressing issues like poverty and human rights to a back seat. Refugees and Robodebt ring any bells? How about the previously mentioned Royal Commission?
Respect for human rights certainly doesn't need the interference of religiousity, nor does the golden rule need to be "interpreted" by Christians for the laity. Upbringing, education - especially on human history - and the normal human conditions of empathy, concern and understanding all help to form the standards you apparently think can only exist via Christianity. Buddhism, which pre-existed Christianity by centuries and which you apparently know nothing about, might have something to say about that.
There is nothing wrong in recognising the reality of gaps in morality in the Bible - and its tenuous credibility as a source of worthwhile morality and "grace", and it is never a good idea to blindly follow any doctrine. It behoves every Christian to question doctrines and how their chosen religion has and does interpret and implement them. The historical reading wrt Christianity won't be pretty I can assure you, or at least it shouldn't be. Then you should move on to questioning whether YOUR religion, its leadership and followers are practising what they preach. With very few exceptions (Mother/St Teresa perhaps?) we are ALL hypocrites - it's part of the human condition, but there is none greater than moral/religious hypocrisy.
You forgot to add 'United States of' before your post
i prefer clean up australia day
I just passed my citizenship test on Wednesday. I should buy 10!
Congrats!
Wtf, Patriotic merchandise in support of Australia!?
What's next.. are we going to start feeling national pride? No, not on my watch.
Indeed.
Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.
ready for the 2034 olympics in brisbane
Or the Melbourne Commonwealth Games in 2026.Will be even cheaper in 2034, 2 years after the 2032 Olympics in Brisbane.
all sold out already!
Whatever your stance on national pride and Australian history, I think we can all agree these are dogshit.
There are still some available not fully sold out yet
how are these Australian?
Australian-made or -owned?
Family owned and designed in Australia, made in China
Meaning, ordered in Australia, made by children in China
@Headless: I just came back from China. When I told friends and relatives that my 16 years old child was working in a restaurant two nights a week, they all blamed me for letting such a young child work. It's time to go outside and take a look. Don't sit in a well and watch the sky all day.
They have Australia printed on them. They're at least as Australian as the cancelled Woolworth's Australia Day items.
having Australia printed on them doesn't make them Australian - it makes them Australia jumpers
besides the Australian flag, did Woolworths ever call their Australia Day items Australian?
Made in … ?
Chiy nah.
If this Australia made, rrp would be $299
The wife will question the purchase via fleshfence, jeez what a name
Just tell her they sell “2nd-hand” patriotic fleshlights, which you need for when it’s dark and cannot find her.
HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY 🇦🇺
Woolworths supports chinese new year and doesn't support Australia, do you have any chinese new year clothing OP?
🤫 they actually used Lunar New Year.
Congrats. You're an early leader in the 2024 contest for Most Headless/Clueless Ozbargain comment.
Trying to bait as many as possible 🤭🤭🤭
Love a fleshfence hoddie
Was I the only one to read the heading and ponder… Kangaroos?
Stars are legit
not
Love a nice hoddie
Is it like the brand Aussie, that isn't Australian at all?
Labelled Australian but is US owned by P&G?
Jesus, these things still around? Weren't they from back in the 00's?
You should have the material the jumpers are made from on the listing and a photo of each different type. We can only see 3 styles in the photo but 6 different colour options
Per item descriptions material is fleece https://www.fleshfence.com.au/products/adult-zip-up-hoodie-j…. You right other colors picture should be there. For the price of $12.95, product is not bad even we wear it few times i guess.
There are still some available not fully sold out yet
This is going to go well…