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LBorisD on 24/02/2024 - 21:01 vivobarefoot.com.au (5495 clicks)
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VIVO20

EDIT: REVIVOREPEAT for 30% off (ty acehoangtt)

Hi, it's my first post!

I have been eyeing these boots for some time now after doing a lot of research on a hiking boot for people who are into the whole barefoot/wide toe thing. Vivos are quite expensive and not sure how low their sales go, so thought I'd wait.

Came across a 20% off code and finally took the plunge (VIVO20). Just ordered it so it hasn't arrived yet. Seems like the code works for most of their range - I checked like 5 different shoes. Not sure when the code became available or when it ends.

Not waterproof, but highly water resistant (leather).
Soles are said to be quite durable and excellent grip, glued and sewn. The older version was only glued and apparently prone to separation (though people say they have good success regluing).
Very flexible and lightweight (US9 is ~525g).

These are ideal for -5 to 25 degree ish temps based on reviews I've seen. Perfect for me since I tend to do a lot of my outdoor camping/hiking activities in the cooler months. You can also buy a thermal insole that apparently works well if you want to wear them in really cold places (with appropriate socks).

Pretty much every review I have seen say they are extremely comfortable and durable, though some people might need a little breaking in. Will last years if you take care waxing them etc.

Make sure if you have never worn barefoot style shoes, to take it easy at first as your foot gets stronger/adapts. I switched to barefoot about a year ago, and my usual hiking boots (Merrells and such) give me pain in my foot now.

They also have casual shoes - various popular styles.
Trail runners, training shoes.
Hikers that are waterproof, various heights, thermal lined.

*Shipping is free on orders over $100
Free return for another size, or for a full refund, or 110% store credit (discount won't be eligible when using this credit). I think they get posted out of Vic somewhere.

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  • BorisD on 24/02/2024 - 21:10
    +7

    Some other options:

    https://vivobarefoot.com.au/collections/mens/products/primus… - training - $269.95 down to $215.96

    https://vivobarefoot.com.au/collections/mens/products/gobi-i… - casual tan chukka style - $319.95 down to $255.96

    https://vivobarefoot.com.au/collections/mens/products/primus… - trail runners - $299.95 down to $239.96

    https://vivobarefoot.com.au/collections/mens/products/tracke… - hiking boot, waterproof, thermal liner - $429.95 down to $343.96

    • whyisave on 24/02/2024 - 23:17

      By joining their Revivo program,
      you will receive a return post label to send your old Vivo shoes back
      and then receive a 15% off discount code to use on your next purchase.

      However, I'm not sure if codes can stack for 35% off
      (20% off your code and 15% off with the Revivo code)

      • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 00:15

        I'm not sure either, but I think to join the program, you need to already have a pair of vivo shoes that you donate to them for them to repair and resell.

        So even if the discount codes can be combined, you are at a net loss of a pair of shoes you already had, which is fine if they were pretty tatty and would have been thrown out.

        My gut tells me it won't stack though

  • chartparker on 24/02/2024 - 22:07
    +7

    I switched to barefoot about a year ago, and my usual hiking boots (Merrells and such) give me pain in my foot now.

    So once you go bare, you never go back?

    • CyberMurning on 24/02/2024 - 22:08
      +2

      The feeling, bro… It's different

      • apey2000 on 24/02/2024 - 22:32
        +3

        Feels like I'm wearin' nuthin' at all…..

        • Caped Baldy on 25/02/2024 - 08:07
          +10

          Stupid sexy Flanders

      • Price Jack on 25/02/2024 - 12:22

        Yep. Just like freeballing after a back, crack and sack shave.

  • Problems on 24/02/2024 - 22:11
    +3

    I have had these for a while now. They are quite good but a friend does have issue with blisters in the back of his heel (I have felt rubbing in this area too but it hasn't come to blisters). I also had the previous version which was more comfortable but lacked durability.

    If you are after a barefoot boot these are probably your best bet form my research.

    • BorisD on 24/02/2024 - 22:33
      +1

      Thanks for the input. Just curious, do you tend to wear thinner or thicker socks?

      I heard the same from a reviewer who had to return them, and another who said a friend had the same problem. It resolved after breaking in for that person. That part you mention softened up. Seems most people find them quite comfortable.

      I suspect I'll have problems with that part but willing to give it a try.

      • Problems on 24/02/2024 - 23:13
        +1

        I wear them with silverlight socks, sometimes with Injinji liner socks paired with them.

    • kyle on 25/02/2024 - 00:30

      I got blisters in the back too but from their Addis range. The stitching wasn't done well there.

  • nuguns17 on 24/02/2024 - 22:13

    Lol, yeah need some wearing in alright.

  • Broos on 24/02/2024 - 22:43

    Is there a good vivobarefoot walking shoe on sale? Usually on pavements (concrete) for 3-10km walks.

    • locosam on 25/02/2024 - 01:38
      +1

      Primus trail with FG sole. The 2 or 3mm extra sole makes a big difference compared to the lites.

      I rotate with heritage volleys. but honestly, just buy the volleys sized up. Im a big fan of vivos but for walking around on concrete everyday, the slight heel raise isnt going to make a big difference and the extra cushioning is needed if youre doing it on concrete daily.

      • Kibbelhs on 25/02/2024 - 09:03

        Second this. I've got said shoe and it's comfy. Hate stuffing my feet back into dress shoes for weekdays nowadays :(

  • Ozbargainasaurus on 24/02/2024 - 22:45

    Pricey, but damn they look good. Might have to start hiking

    • whyisave on 24/02/2024 - 23:10
      +3

      Don't you hike to the fridge and back ?

  • koalabargains on 24/02/2024 - 22:46
    -3

    Are products like these a joke…?

    • banana365 on 24/02/2024 - 22:59
      +4

      No. Many people find they're better for their feet, knees etc. than normal shoes, me for one. I used to wear the freaky toe shoe things for a while but they really don't suit many occasions (definitely not a shoe for the office). I've got a couple of pairs of $40 barefoot shoes that I wear all the time these days. Love them.

      • scarface on 24/02/2024 - 23:13
        +3

        Same here, been using barefoot shoes for about 8 years now, will never go back. Finding decent work/formal shoes is hard though.

        Good to see more brands available, Lems is also popular. Nowadays, I get mine from merchants on Etsy from Europe. M more choice and costs way less.

        • oogabooga on 25/02/2024 - 01:04
          +4

          What do think of https://www.saguaro.com/products/noble-2
          As a formal shoe?

          • scarface on 25/02/2024 - 08:42

            @oogabooga: That's perfect, I will order a pair and see how they wear. At the moment, when I travel to see corporate customers I wear a pair of hush puppies but I pay in pain every night.

            Thanks for sharing.

            Btw, Vivos last forever, but the leather does lose its shape after a few months

          • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 09:45

            @oogabooga: These look great and are pretty well priced. I think I'll give them a go when they have my size in stock

            • scarface on 25/02/2024 - 10:16
              +1

              @BorisD: Reading reviews, probably better ordering 1 size smaller than normal

      • Shroomlet on 25/02/2024 - 01:41
        +4

        Where are you finding barefoot shoes for $40?!

        • ChipP on 25/02/2024 - 05:57
          +1

          Seriously! Barefoot shoes, sandals, everything has shot up in price… I used to get xeroshoes sandals for $40 now they're $100…

        • banana365 on 25/02/2024 - 10:58
          +4

          Of all places, AliExpress. You know something has reached a decent level of popularity when you search there and find pages and pages of results. This is the style I bought a couple of pairs of https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrFS3Ru They're actually under $30, not $40. I wasn't certain if I'd paid as little as I remembered so added $10.

          I've been wearing one pair at work now for a couple of months and they look as good as new.

      • DeepDreamer on 25/02/2024 - 13:38

        Where, oh where, do you find everyday barefoot shoes at a reasonable price? I run an Vivo barefoots, but I'd love to wear more barefoot ones just casually

  • reddot12 on 24/02/2024 - 22:52

    Bought a pair of their Vivo Lite a few years ago - still going strong to this day. I only use it if I go for a workout at the gym. I bought them at the time as I had been advised they were good for wider feet and I had plantar fascitis then. Not recommended for running, learned this from experience and not for daily walks either. If you're in Brisbane there are a few merchants who sell them, would be best to try them on first before buying one - definitely feels like you're walking barefoot.

    • eraser215 on 25/02/2024 - 11:21
      +1

      They are amazing for walking. You just have to get used to them. I have been wearing my primus lite for 3 years and walk kilometres every day in them. I always reach for them over any of my other shoes if I am going for a walk.

  • bboz on 24/02/2024 - 22:53

    What is a barefoot boot?

    • Problems on 24/02/2024 - 23:08
      +4

      Barefoot shoes typically are wider at the forefoot, have less heel rise, less toe spring, thinner sole and more flexible.

      • jamesorion on 25/02/2024 - 00:22
        -5

        Silly name for them, given how they are still a shoe, just a different design, and very different to being barefoot.

        These seem very gimmicky. Why have such high tops if you want a barefoot feel? Not to mention high tops are usually there for added support, so it makes no sense to pair them with a flexible sole.

        • Problems on 25/02/2024 - 04:05
          +2

          It isn't all or nothing. For day to day I wear their primus lite which are very minimal which is fine for walking on pavement. When I go hiking the boot still gives me most of the benefits I care about (wide toe box, no heel rise, no toe spring and a shoe that is still more flexible then most) but with a bit of abrasion resistance and keeping the water out with the leather and high tops.

          Depending on how I'm feeling, the trail and if I want the added warmth, I'll swap them out for the vivo trail runners.

        • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 10:13
          +1

          Sorry I don't know how to quote

          "Why have such high tops if you want a barefoot feel? Not to mention high tops are usually there for added support, so it makes no sense to pair them with a flexible sole."

          When you have a lot of space around your feet inside a shoe, and hike on rough terrain going up and down hills etc, there is a tendency for my feet at least, to slide around a bit inside the shoe.

          I am hoping the high top will grab my ankle so that my toes have space to not be squished, while keep the shoe from sliding around (feet being pushed all the way forward when walking down hill), and it being very flexible means even though it's grabbing my ankle, it still allows my ankle freedom to adjust to an incline, decline or side slope.

          Have never worn boots like these before though, so it's a bit of an experiment for me. I have hiked in barefoot style trail runners etc, and my feet definitely feel much better after a long hike than in my Merrell hiking boots

          edit: spelling

        • md333 on 25/02/2024 - 16:09

          "Why have such high tops if you want a barefoot feel? "
          For me it is to keep prickles, leaves, dirt etc from going into the shoe.
          I don't think high tops do much for support, you'd need them ridiculously tight to make a difference.
          Can protect your ankles a little on scree slopes.

  • banana365 on 24/02/2024 - 23:03
    +2

    I'm really tempted to give these a go https://jimgreenfootwear.com/store/african-ranger-barefoot-b…

    • whyisave on 24/02/2024 - 23:11
      +1

      For every 10 pairs sold we donate a pair to a Ranger

      That's a good initiative from the company.

    • Caped Baldy on 25/02/2024 - 08:10

      Looks like it's in USD

  • haritone on 24/02/2024 - 23:33

    I imagine these would be fine unladen, but wonder how/if people go with a decent weight pack on their back?

    • Bisky1 on 25/02/2024 - 00:12
      -2

      My understanding is it's more of semi-scientific cult.

      If you have less cushioning/support from your shoes etc. many people's feet will adjust over time to accommodate. Some won't; say if you have a bleeding disorder or just don't develop the requisite strength in that area as readily.

      However, in that time you will suffer, and potentially injure yourself before you reach the promised land.

      If you go the Hoka or more support route [its a shoe+sock+insole/orthotic combined effort] your pampered feet will be less calloused, but they won't be off-roading in severe conditions either.

      I'd rather develop my muscles rather than my feet, personally.

      To those who can, and are willing to take the risk…go forth. But it's not a 'one-size-fits-all' [pun intended].

      I did vet the above post science with GPT-4, for whatever that's worth.

      • diamondd on 25/02/2024 - 10:42
        +6

        "I'd rather develop my muscles rather than my feet, personally."

        you have muscles in your feet too genius, why would you want to neglect them? Humans used to stalk prey for days running in bare feet.

        the fact it can be a difficult transition for some people only goes to show how weak their feet have become being bound in raised heel shoes all day at the office.

        • garygaz on 25/02/2024 - 17:06

          Humans used to stalk prey for days running in bare feet.

          humans also used to regularly die at childbirth and believe the universe revolved around the earth

          i'm being facetious, but i can't help myself anytime i see a 'humans used to….' comment :)

    • diamondd on 25/02/2024 - 10:30

      I've got the basic desert boot style they do and I've done several one or two night hikes with my usual 17-18kg bag and I love them.

    • Telios on 25/02/2024 - 12:02

      It really comes down to foot and trail condition.

      I've got several pairs of barefoot-ish boots and wouldn't trust them in real cold, very rocky, or with a heavy load (>20kg).

      Something about rocky trails with no cushioning to absorb trail impacts smashes your feet the first few weeks.

      In winter I won't wear them, with all my snow shoes, ice axes and rope it's difficult to be under 18kg.

      It's definitely a pseudo cult.

  • greypotatobake on 25/02/2024 - 00:13

    how does this toe box compare with altra lone peaks? I'm a size 12.5 2E (extra wide) with my altras. I get horrendous blisters with my size 12.5 2E (extra wide) hoka speedgoats

  • kyle on 25/02/2024 - 00:31

    Give barefoot hiking a try?

  • WallybR on 25/02/2024 - 00:38

    Anyone have any recommendations on normal hiking boot deals?

    • suchis on 25/02/2024 - 09:59
      +1

      I have just started on the journey… hoping to do Larapinta in two years.
      There is so much conflicting advice …. ankle support v no ankle support. Waterproof Gore-Tex v breathable, etc
      BCF had a bit of a sale last week so I got a light high top boot. (I started in steel toe cap work boots!). The lighter boot is a remarkable beast for increasing your distance/time. But not sure on durability.
      I found Merrel a very strange fit. And indeed the toffy nosed assistant at the ‘serious’ camping shop really annoying so I walked out.
      So I’d say start with Anaconda etc specials and see where that takes you. I’d rather spend $85 on a boot that I later use as an everyday walker, than $300 for the same result.
      I watched ‘A walk in the woods’ on Netflix (?) a few weeks back. Main character is asked by a ‘serious’ fellow hiker why he bought the XP 3000 rucksack, to which he replied ‘Because I thought it would be easier than carrying all the stuff in my arms’.

      • Fappo on 25/02/2024 - 19:23
        +1

        Getting the right fitting brand and shoe can be much more of an issue with hiking boots/shoes than everyday wear. I've bought a bunch of shoes over the years that barely got worn due to not passing muster after a couple of days on the trail.
        Salomon's have worked well for me (I really like the Speed cross) and to look at them you'd think they were much narrower than Altras, but when I tried Altras I hated them after a few hours because the fit was too narrow for me.

  • locosam on 25/02/2024 - 01:47
    +1

    The deal is so so.
    If you check the website often enough, they sometimes have 40-50% off. But i guess this one isnt stock and time dependant.

    I would recommend people to try them out first, they really arnt for everyone

    • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 10:03
      +1

      Is it 40-50% off on even the popular styles/sizes? Or like only that random fluoro green/brown shoe in EU49.
      If the sale is often enough I can wait a while (luckily free returns lol)

      • locosam on 25/02/2024 - 10:47
        +1

        Yes, but it's completely random. My tracker deacon boots (in a normal colour and size 42) were 50% off, but I've never seen the primus go under $180 in any sale.
        I got mine in some random sale during April but during black Friday or Christmas there wasn't much discounts.

    • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 09:59

      Lol you still wear socks, barefoot is just a name for a style of shoe

      • amosmilburn on 25/02/2024 - 12:26
        +1

        cheers, i had visions of something that smelled worse than the birkenstocks on a Newtownian neo-hippie….

    • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 09:58
      +3

      I am far from a Himalayan salt guy and pretty much suspicious of everything, but I had slight pain in my feet that went away when I started wearing wider fit shoes.

      If it helps you, just think of it as a wide shoe without a heel, that is light weight and flexible. Pretty hard to find from mainstream hiking boot names. Even if "barefoot" is a big marketing scam/jumping on a bandwagon, the previous things about the boot are still true and fit my feet, which means it's nothing like your example of hexagonal water

      • bigpoppa on 25/02/2024 - 16:09

        I have flat foot and spent most of my childhood barefoot. shoes have support for a reason and none of it is equal let alone inferior to barefoot. Going barefoot is the homeopathy of shoes.

        • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 17:34

          Maybe barefoot shoes don't suit you. I don't have flat feet and they work for me. Not sure how you can equate finding comfortable shoes to wear that don't hurt my feet to the same thing as drinking tincture of pine needle to cure cancer or something.

          In no way did I say orthotics or proper support were inferior, it was actually some orthotics and a toe spacer that my podiatrist recommended me that initially helped relieve the pain I had. Now I find I don't need the orthotics or toe spacer anymore to be pain free.

        • hobbsey1 on 25/02/2024 - 18:24
          +1

          Yea definitely millions of years of hyper intensive foot evolution was totally insufficient for humans, and the ONLY correct way to design shoes is to completely rearrange the geometric relationship between foot to earth that worked for every single human ancestor from the moment we became bipedal 4 million years ago until shoes with heels got invented in 900 AD. Barefoot shoes work really well for some people because it leans back in to the way feet were evolved to function. Disregarding them as a category is incredibly arrogant.

          • bigpoppa on 27/02/2024 - 14:53

            @hobbsey1: millions of years of hyper intensive skin evolution was totally insufficient for humans, and the ONLY correct way to prevent cancer is to slather a thick goop on a skin that worked for every single human ancestor from the moment we became came out of water 210 million years ago until a suncream with UV blocking properties got invented in 1938 CE.

            See how misinformed and cooker that argument sounds. That's you.

    • shadyscab on 25/02/2024 - 10:22
      +4

      Sounds like a person shared their personal experience and you're projecting your own cynicism.

      Humans and pre-humans got around bare/semi-bare foot for (profanity) knows how long, cramming our feet into pointy shoes and changing our gait to heel strike (profanity) with people.

      the "alternative" seems better than being medicined into restrictive over cushioned, over arched, asics with a side of custom orthodic insert.

      • bigpoppa on 25/02/2024 - 16:15
        -1

        pre humans also ate raw food and went unclothed…

        I do take your point about pointy shoes but there is literally no scenario where cramming your feet in pointy shoes is mandatory.

        Going pre shoe and charging 2x - 4x is not alternative, its snake oil. Orthotics exists for the same reason vaccine exists - they work and proven clinically to work.

        • Spets on 25/02/2024 - 16:28
          -3

          Bruh, get another rona vax, you're starting to sound grumpy.

          • bigpoppa on 25/02/2024 - 17:23
            -1

            @Spets: My guy vaccines prevent countless disease and disabilities, not just rona. No need to share your uninformed ignance

            • Spets on 25/02/2024 - 17:38
              -4

              @bigpoppa: Except the rona vax didnt. Surprise surprise.

              • bigpoppa on 25/02/2024 - 20:06

                @Spets: lolz is that why for every 1 vaccinated deaths there were 10 unvaccinated deaths. Let me break it down to your cooker brain, that's 10x or 1000% more deaths of unvaccinated people

                • Spets on 27/02/2024 - 13:44
                  -1

                  @bigpoppa: Yeah, cos there are no unvaccinated people left right? They must all be dead at such high death rates /s
                  Now break it down to age groups and underlying health conditions. Sick, fat and old people die.

                  • bigpoppa on 27/02/2024 - 14:42
                    -2

                    @Spets: Vaccines dont work cos it reduces rate of deaths among 'sick, fat and old people'? I'm sorry I didn't realise I was replying to someone with severe intellectual disability. The cow goes moo can you say moo?

                    • Spets on 29/02/2024 - 16:11
                      -1

                      @bigpoppa: Let's try this a bit slower, for your boomer brain sweetheart:

                      How many of those unvaccinated deaths already had chronic illness, old or fat people? Because those are the main risk factors of dying from rona.

                      And guess who is less likely to get vaxxed: those with chronic illness : https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235282732…

                      Now, remember when old people were packed in Victorian aged care homes with the illness ripping through them like a hot knife through butter? They were also "unvaccinated cookers".

                      So them dying skews the numbers all in favour of the vaccine. But keep gobbling up that MSM narrative ;)

                      • bigpoppa on 29/02/2024 - 19:09

                        @Spets: Lets slow it to halt for your cooker I did my own research with my cooker methodology honeybuns.

                        Yes covid deaths are linked to comorbidities, but 11% of aussies have high BP 4% have type 2 diabetes and another 11% have respiratory diseases, all of which are said comorbidities with strong link to ro ro deaths my dear intellectually molested cooker bruhs. Even if all those overlapped as being the same people, that's stil 1 in 10 aussies at risk. Also do you even finish kindergarten bruh?

                        Interesting how the study you linked to is not a study at all but an ONLINE SURVEY of 300 odd people in one city in murica. I mean that's as scientific as your cooker brain can tolerate before it regress and shuts down I suppose. Where them blood tests at my cooker fella?

                        Making shit up might be your cooker forte but us people with functioning cognitive brain only deal with facts not conspiracy. Also seeing that your cooker brain don't know how vaccines work, I saved your life by having my vaccine dear oxygen thief so you're welcome :)

        • hobbsey1 on 26/02/2024 - 19:01
          +1

          Mate they're shoes with thin flat soles. Is walking round bare foot bad for people? Is there an epidemic of foot disorders in the parts of QLD where basically everyone wears thongs (thin, flat soles)? You're seeing something you don't understand and doing the old man thing where you assume it's bad because it's unfamiliar. Barefoot shoes, like all things that relate to the nearly infinite biomechanical variation in feet, work like magic for some people and not others. It's great that there is an emerging market for people for whom traditional shoes damage their mobility.

          • bigpoppa on 27/02/2024 - 14:46
            -1

            @hobbsey1: must've struck a nerve for you to bring all the strawmans to the mix. Walking barefoot aint bad, telling someone to walk barefoot and tell them it's better for you so you can scam $460 is worse than bad. Yeah nah no one in any emerging market is going to shill out $460 so they can do something for $460 instead of doing it for free.

    • stickingly on 25/02/2024 - 14:20
      +1

      I run a lot and suffered from plantar fasciitis for years. Since transitioning to minimal and "barefoot" shoes I don't have it anymore. If I ever spent a lot of time walking in stiff shoes it flares up again

      I agree not for everyone though

  • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 10:49

    Thank you to whoever added the shopback thing, or if it was automatic?
    Too late for me, but it's an extra $20 or so off the price

  • deepdag on 25/02/2024 - 11:18
    +1

    Hi OP,
    Give Groundies boots a try. They are cheaper even when they are sold in Euros and fitting is just amazing. Have 4 pairs of Groundies. Very beautiful styles too.

    • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 11:38

      Thank you for the suggestion, I'll have a look into it. Pretty hard to find shoes that aren't overpriced in this category lol

      • Fappo on 25/02/2024 - 20:01

        I'm not a 'barefoot' guy, but I bought some Xero sandals a while back to use for river crossings/camp shoes and they are a somewhat reasonably priced way to test the waters.

        I really like them overall and have hiked quite a few k's in them now.

        These are the ones I have, but there is a cheaper and more minimal model too.
        https://www.wildearth.com.au/buy/xero-z-trail-mens-ev-multi-…

    • awph on 25/02/2024 - 21:26

      I checked their website and unfortunately most of them are about the same price as vivobarefoot after currency conversion, so the lack of free return/exchange options makes it a really hard sell. Sizes of these barefoot shoes tend to be different from regular shoes, so being able to exchange for a proper size is very important for the first pair imo.

  • acehoangtt on 25/02/2024 - 11:37
    +11

    But why when if you use the code REVIVOREPEAT you can get 30% off?

    • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 11:39

      :O

  • haru on 25/02/2024 - 13:19

    Having tried both I found the Lems Boulder boot to be cheaper and more comfortable/durable/repairable.

    • Bystander on 27/02/2024 - 14:52

      +1 for Lems.
      I wear the Chillum.
      Super comfortable.

  • awph on 25/02/2024 - 13:53

    I'm curious about the primus lite knit but kind of worried about durability of the fabric material, because I'm totally not impressed with the durability of my primus lite iii. The primus lite iv all weather seems to have a more durable material, maybe I'll give that a shot.

    • Telios on 26/02/2024 - 09:17

      My vivo trail runners showed signs of damage after only a few weeks.

      The friggin material around the toebox was separating and they wouldn't replace them because it was "wear".

  • Spets on 25/02/2024 - 16:27

    Is there a cheaper alternative to try out before spending a few hundred on a barefoot lifestyle?

    • BorisD on 25/02/2024 - 17:23
      +1

      I bought a cheap pair from a reddit recommendation that was like $30-40 delivered to get started (I tried to find the link but can't anymore, it was from about a year ago). It was a Chinese no name brand. They're ok to wear casually but not really for hikes. Check aliexpress and amazon. One of the names I see come up is Hobibear, but I don't know if they're any good.

    • 7hours 44min ago on 25/02/2024 - 17:58

      Search barefoot mens shoes on Ali

    • Fappo on 25/02/2024 - 20:14

      I just posted this above:

      I'm not a 'barefoot' guy, but I bought some Xero sandals a while back to use for river crossings/camp shoes and they are a somewhat reasonably priced way to test the waters.

      I really like them overall and have hiked quite a few k's in them now.

      These are the ones I have, but there is a cheaper and more minimal model too.
      https://www.wildearth.com.au/buy/xero-z-trail-mens-ev-multi-…

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