People be all like "leftys are snowflake and ima tough guy" then they get called a "stupid white bastard" and they get immediately take it to court - what's the go?!
Sam Kerr allegedly called police officer a ‘stupid white bastard’, source says
Sam Kerr Allegedly Calling "Stupid White Bastard" to Snowflake
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This is what alot of people are pointing out. The double standards of the woke brigade. If a white athlete racially vilified a black cop they'd lose all their sponsors and possibly even their job.
Caucasian Brit's are the Aboriginal inhabitants of England.
She literally racially abused an Aboriginal.
“Black” is the least offensive part of those 3 words. If the cop was actually black then that’s an observation.
Snowflakes need to harden the f up.
Yeah but then it would be racism? Ask Craig about it?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/10/craig-foste…
Yep, woke moron detection activated !!!
You mean me, or Craig? Or someone else?
@Godot: Whomever wants to re-define what the term racism means ;)
Woke morons like to change definitions and force compliance with their own definition …
@7ekn00: Oh I get you now. But words often change meaning over time… Maybe this is one of those times? Did you read the article - he explains why really well, I think.
@7ekn00: Oh I see, you're not interested in a discussion, just want to push your agenda about whatever this is. Cool. Enjoy your night, maybe lay off the forums, spend time with family and friends, know that in time we'll all die and it won't matter anyway 😊
@Godot: Oh, so you support the redefining of racism, but not woman … interesting … that's breaking your cults rules though !
As long as you are just as cool with someone calling a black cop a stupid black bastard, then fine. Seems like people, especially the media here, want to be cool with it this time because its their darling Sam Kerr.
She was drunk and out of order. I've been apprehended by UK police after a night drinking in my younger days and rule one is don't be a smartarse or answer back. They'll usually be ok with you then and let you off with a warning. Make life difficult for them and you'll be in for a night in the cells and maybe a charge.
Once you start bringing colour or race into it then good luck. Its an offence over there, simple as that. She was stupid to say it and needs to take whatever is coming and apologise. Ex Chelsea men's captain John Terry had to front court a few years back after being caught on camera calling an opponent a "f*****g black c**t" during a game, so she should be aware it isn't tolerated.
Seen a few people suggesting its because of who she is. I doubt most UK cops would even recognise half the England women's team, let alone Kerr who has nowhere near the profile there that she does here.
I don’t think it’s the same as calling someone a “stupid black bastard” because of the history of racism directed towards black peoples; such as apartheid, slavery, colonisation, institutional discrimination; in our country it includes the stolen generations.
It is exactly the same. Yes of course black people have suffered far more with racism, but that doesn't mean anyone should get away with it the other way.
The real reason the media and many people are trying to trivialise it is because its media darling and very good football player Sam Kerr.
Either racism is acceptable or it isn't, trying to be selective about it is ridiculous.
Is this a public prosecution or a private case? Unbelievable if it's a public prosecution.
She committed a hate crime against a police officer. That's a serious criminal offense in the UK.
The case was originally heard in a Magistrates Court, which is typical, then the Magistrate committed it to the Crown Court as the charges are so serious, it also means if she is found guilty the sentencing can be quite serious also.
See statement from the UK's Crown prosecution ServiceCrimes that are motivated wholly or partly by hostility or demonstrate hostility towards the victim of the offence based on that person's presumed race, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity or disability are eligible for an increased sentence.
Am I allowed to say 'Stupid Black Bastard'? I'm pretty sure statistics show that there are more black bastards here in Australia than white bastards…therefore more stupid black ones…no point - just an observation.
… with more white people in Australia than black peoples I’m pretty sure you would be wrong.
Just an observation.
Kerr's not taking any responsibility for this, no apologies for her behaviour. Just letting the lawyers and Chelsea Club take the hit.
IF a white player/celebrity did what she did and abused taxi driver/police officer or anyone really, the actions would be quick and harsh.
If it wasn't Sam Kerr, there'd be no case. The white bastard wants a payday
How do you know they even recognised her? She may be massively famous here, especially after the recent world cup, but they have their own team that made the final and also won the Euros before that. And I doubt the average cop would even recognise half of that team, let alone someone who plays for another country.
What "payday" do you think they are going to get exactly? And I guarantee an unknown/ordinary person wouldn't be getting away with this.
Why on earth would a random police officer know who some drunk abusive foreign woman was, because she plays soccer in front of 50 people each weekend ?
awweee this bad benaviour is OK…
But if it was a bloke calling a WOMAN that, he would be burned at the stake…
That is woke femanism for ya, EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING IS OK as long as they do it.
infact sams the victim!
Imagine the outrage had the white male cop called her "Stupid Black Bitch" and I would think he would have lost his job.
Surprised she hasn't used the woman and LGBTI card yet
She has. That's why the case has taken so long to finally get to court.
Speculation.
Not speculation at all. Her solicitors forced an internal review of the claims before the charges were laid. She literally pulled multiple diversity cards and then had them Uno-reversed by the Police Union.
@infinite: I'll ask again, where are you reading this? You mentioned in another comment that she's has a history of being racist and here that she's pulling the LGBT/gender card? I've searched online but haven't found anything.
WELL WELL WELL
What kind of bikies? I don't like Arnott's with their palm oil. Also gotta watch my sugar.
I read in the news recently that a tourist came to Australia and called an Indigenous police officer a "black bastard" after being caught spewing in a taxi and refusing to pay the fare or clean-up costs. After the fact that tourist has then not shown any contrition or responsibility for their drunken behaviour, and has denied any wrong-doing in the incident.
How would Australia feel about the actions of that tourist?
Well this is EXACTLY what has happened in England! Kerr has gone over there as a tourist, and in a drunken state after spewing up in a taxi called one of their 'indigenous' police officers a "white bastard".
The hypocrisy in ANYONE defending her actions is laughable.
I wouldn't really use the term "tourist" she lives over there for the entire soccer season if you count pre season training etc likely 6 months of the year while playing in the FA Women's Super League and UEFA League.
So could have been a simple win last year celebrated a bit too much redecorated the inside of the taxi on the way back to her house.
If you are level of puke drunk then I don't think anything you claim to say is correct. One could have meant to say sorry and said (profanity) instead.
I still think a 4 day trial is a bit much. A $ fine say you must go to/do X/Y/Z and the UK version of a good behaviour bond. But that is just me.Out of everything I typed, you got hung up on the word "tourist"?
Your reasoning is flawed. "Celebrated a bit too much" is no excuse for vomiting inside a taxi and then refusing clean up costs. No one poisoned her… she's a grown adult and must act like one. And no way you can "confuse" an apology with an insult. Now you're really stretching things to the point ridiculousness.
She broke local laws and must face local potential penalties. Tourist or not, you follow local laws. Whether it's "a bit much" is again, not excuse.
Out of everything I typed, you got hung up on the word "tourist"?
Well you where hung up that she was a "tourist" mentioning it multiple times when she in fact lives there. She doesn't live in Australia at all her home locations are the USA and UK swapping between the 2 depending on what league is being played.
I wasn't giving her an excuse I frankly don't care I was just pointing out that she wasn't a tourist. If anything if she lives there then she should know what the laws are and shouldn't do it.I'm calling the "court trial being set for 4 days of sitting in length" a bit much.
Are there hundreds of witnesses to be called? Surely if the cops have body worn cameras watch the XX mins of that will be enough start at 9am and be done by lunch seems clear cut to me. Why spend 4 days of court time over this? Are they going to recreate the hours before and after the event in real time?
Racist comment plain and simple, she could have left "white" out n we wouldn't be having this conversation, the notion that white people cant experience racism is a lie, i faced it every week in my work with no action taken against the perpetrators i was told to suck it up, which was bs.
Rich person treats commoner with disdain.
What usually happens in these situations? The rich person throws hush money?
Is Sam too entitled to follow the standard rich folk protocol?
If someone had said "stupid black bastard" would you complain? If not you're a hypocrite and probably a racist one at that. I agree in that I'd rather no one be charged for words tbh.
‘Black stupid bastard’ is more racially charged due to the history of racism towards blacks.
No you are just a racist who thinks its ok to treat one race differently to others.
Wow, that is a big ad hominem attack. Not sure how you can justify it.
Are you denying the history of racism against black people perpetuated by white people including but not limited to; slavery, apartheid, colonisation, partition, institutional racism and in our own country stolen generations?
That history necessarily means that racism against black people is heightened. I am not sure how you can deny that. And why I am being called racist by you for saying that.
The history of racism informs how black on white and white on black racism differ. It explains why for example that whites can typically laugh off being called a stupid white bastard wheres blacks would have way more trouble with it (due to their long history of vilification).
@Eeples: @Eeples You don't seem to have a good grasp of racism or history in general so let me give you some information that may enlighten you.
In regards to slavery every skin colour has been a slave, the origin of the word slave actually has its origins from the word slav. The slavs (whom were/are white) inhabited a large part of Eastern Europe and were taken as slaves by the Muslims of Spain during the ninth century AD. It wasn't until the 19th century that the Ottoman Empire attempted to ban slavery of Caucasian people but even after several measures to ban slavery in the late 19th century, the practice continued largely unaffected into the early 20th century. As late as 1908, female slaves were still sold in the Ottoman Empire. Sexual slavery was a central part of the Ottoman slave system throughout the history of the institution. The Ancient Hellenic empires, the Romans, the Mongols, the Vikings, the British, Portugal, Spain, Netherlands, New Zealand, Africa, Soviet Empire, the US, etc all had slaves of different skin tones.
The US abolished slavery in 1865 which is the main one people like to talk about in regards to white on black slavery. But the US had white german slaves in the 1940's after WWII. The Germans were being used as forced labor by the U.S., France, the UK and the Soviet Union and were forced to clear minefields in France and the Low Countries. By December 1945, it was estimated by French authorities that 2,000 German prisoners/slaves were being killed or injured each month from the forced labour and treatment from allied forces.
Every skin colour has been a slave, it still has slavery today and people are more enraged about slavery from over a hundred years ago than current day slavery.
Again apartheid/segregation, colonisation and partition has happened to every skin tone.
To say that racism against one skin tone is not as bad as racism to another is just illogical and your own biases are affecting logical judgement.
Racism in any form is bad, regardless of who it is directed at. A lot of white people have had it very rough in the past and I could even argue it was worse than the British/US slavery trade in the 1700's than most like to bring up all the time.
@Dejy: https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/history-of-slavery/trans… a quick read of the tabs is worth it.
https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/international-slavery-mu… not been myself as it was built after I emigrated, but family and friends tell me it's a moving experience as it openly and honestly reflects Liverpool's role.
@Iangh: Thanks for the links but that International Slavery Museum / Exhibition focuses purely on the transatlantic (Mostly British/US) slavery trade of African people which I mention above that most people like to bring up all the time. I'm well aware of that barbaric trade of those times, as you are and most others are but again it has a lot of history where people were made to be slaves that not many people are aware of and assume that no other skin tone has been a slave when in actuality every skin tone has been even after the transatlantic slavery trade was abolished.
Also funnily that International Slavery Museum / Exhibit has been closed due to Industrial action (Workplace dispute about working conditions).
@Dejy: I totally agree. I enjoy telling people my history lessons at school started with learning how my country had been invaded and occupied by the Romans for 300-odd years. And like every conquering army in the world they did what they wanted, including taking slaves. The world started acquiring a moral compass with the likes of the Monroe Doctrine, Emancipation Act…It's 2024 and we're still trying. One day.
@Eeples: You ARE a racist and there is the justification
Why on earth do thise on the "left" constantly spout "do what i say not what i do" stuff when trying to control everyone?
All of your so called justification to supprt this nasty little woman is simply rubbish you made up in your own head
Says who ? Some left leaning university professor? Seriously some woke professor spouts of a definition of racist DOESN'T mean its gospel. But people especially media love to point to their definitions as if it was law.. guess what its an OPINION nothing else.
On the one hand I welcome Kerr being treated exactly the same as any other person and having the same laws applied to her that other people are the benefit of. She's not white (AFAIK) and used a racially based slur against an officer. It's refreshing to see this being held in equal weight to a white person calling an officer a 'stupid black bastard', as it should be. No one should have special privilege, including those who are famous and have lots of money.
However, from what I read she's meant to face a four day court hearing, and honestly this whole thing has been blown out of all proportions. At most she might receive a 50 pound fine and asked not to do it again. I have read calls for her to step down as captain of Chelsea and all sorts of other such wild claims.
I doubt she will remain Australian captain.
Soccer Australia expected to be informed about this incident when it happened and they also expect a higher standard from its captain. Don’t we all?
IMO Soccer Australia will make whatever decision results in the best commercial outcome
The case will be heard towards the end of the year, maybe even next year. Kerr is away with injury anyway, so chances are all this will blow over well before she returns to the field.
Forwards should never be captains anyway imo.
Well Sam Kerr can do no wrong, her status in Australia is godlike
Whatever she says to others, racist or not, insulting or not, is taken as the holy gospel and revered.
Nothing to do with snowflakes or the likes its to do with hypocrisy. The left are always banging on about racism and when someone who is Indian(part) and saying what she did, they're being hypocrites and saying it's not racism, when it is. Racism is racism no matter who is involved.
For people defending Kerr and her comments, and playing down what she said, I would like to see the justification for why it's okay to be racist to a white person but not okay the other way around. While the racism we're (in Australia) broadly familiar with has been predominantly white people discriminating against anyone else, it's not solely a white person problem. Just look at all the racially based conflicts happening in the world right now, including in Israel and Palestine.
Racism is not okay and not justifiable for anyone, anywhere. To say 'yeah, but, this racism isn't that bad' is doing everyone a disservice who is trying to abolish the problem.
But didn't you get the memo? The race card can only be used by certain races, and the same standards cannot be applied to every person of every race- with some receiving preferential treatment purely on race (the very definition of racism!).
And two wrongs definitely make a right apparently. Because blacks have experienced more racism in the past, whites today therefore OWE blacks some comeuppance and must tolerate behaviour they would NEVER tolerate.
Can you imagine if that same white police officer said the exact same thing to Kerr and called her a "black bitch" instead of being called a "white bastard"??
There would be people protesting and seeking his dismissal from his career!!
Is anyone asking Kerr to be fired? No…. just to be held account in a court of law. And STILL people are protesting that, saying that's "unfair".The hypocrisy from her supporters here is mindboggling!
Lefties' chickens coming home to roost?
Not really, this will be an important process for them to change the overton window to make what she did acceptable if the victim is of a certain profile compared to the perpetrator.
That is a good point.
Where’s the poll option for “lots of people are snowflakes, but not everyone, and neither am I”?
If a white person calls someone a "Stupid "non-white" bastard" they should be charged.
In this instance, a non-white person calling someone a "Stupid "white" bastard" should equally be charged.
Should not have anything to do whether you are a leftie/right-wing, nor whether you are a famous person.
Yes but this is leftist politics at play. Now it's being used against them and they don't like it.
Yeah it's soft for it to go before the courts, but i don't like the downplay it gets cause the copper was white.
If a white person called a black copper a "stupid black bastard" then the response would be very different, and that is why this is BS. Racism is racism.The problem with any laws that stifle free speech is its selectively enforced and abused as almost anything can be considered as being offensive. Racism has cheapened from a deep meaning of discrimination e.g. not choosing a person who is qualified for a job purely because of their race. Now its calling people names and thought crimes.
Did the copper take her to court because of anti-white racism or was it because she was abusing a member of the police?
yes
Thankyou for clarifying.
Not a problem
Clearly she needs to be taken to courts and thrown into jail for life because she assumed the police person's gender and race! The police officer might have identified as green /sarcasm
See this is what is so confusing about pronouns , if he had identified himself as a stupid white bastard of a copper all would have been fine .
She should have just stuck with little piglet noises or called him Babe like the rest of us when on a bender .Where's the option to say the OP is racist to white people? Any insult that includes nationality, skin colour or race is racist.
Oh I forgot that option. Thank you for your contribution.
Pretty sure OP sees white people as the origin of all evil. That's why idiotic minority soccer players can hurl abuse at cops and it's all cool.
And if it was a black cop and a white gal said "Stupid Black Bastard", you bet the OP would be all enraged with all the **ist titles …
There would be no mention of the black cop being a snowflake :P