TP-Link EAP650 AX3000 Ceiling Mount Wi-Fi 6 PoE+ Access Point $160.39 Delivered @ Amazon AU

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All time low price for this one.

I guess after a long time lurking this is my first post, so be gentle ;)

This series of WiFi 6 access point is equivalent to Ubiquiti’s UAP-U6 range. TP-Link Omada is comparable to UniFi at a more affordable price, so it’s probably the best alternative at this price point if you want a singular management interface and ecosystem of products. You also have the option of using each device independently without a Omada Controller (can be self hosted software or hardware) if you wish.

About this item:

  • Ultra-Fast WiFi 6 Speeds: Simultaneous 574 Mbps on 24 GHz and 2402 Mbps on 5 GHz totals 2976 Mbps WiFi speeds
  • High-Efficiency WiFi 6: More connected devices can enjoy faster speeds
  • Centralised Cloud Management: Omada SDN integration manages the whole network locally or from the cloud via web UI or Omada app
  • 160 MHz Channel: Double the data at peak transmission times on a single stream with HE160
  • 5 year warranty
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  • wayfastwhitie on 20/04/2024 - 11:43

    How do these compare with the UAP Pro

    • tor on 20/04/2024 - 12:03
      +1

      https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/m59a10/ubiquiti_i…

      Edit: Don't think tp-link has any better products though.

    • wangsk on 20/04/2024 - 15:34

      Cheaper

    • roller on 20/04/2024 - 21:49

      If you need to mesh Unifi is better as the TPLink need the controller (Omada) running all the time somewhere on the network. In other aspects the quality, stability and features are pretty similar.

  • Domingo on 20/04/2024 - 11:44
    +17

    "Mum, can we get Unifi?"

    "We have Unifi at home."

  • OldSchoolHarry on 20/04/2024 - 11:48

    Showing at $159.98 for me.

    • bdl on 20/04/2024 - 12:41
      +1

      That price is from Harris Technology/Kogan.

      I replaced all my Unifi gear with tp link and been very happy with it. Cracked it after I had a flex HD and two AC lites die after firmware updates, then received two replacement AC Pro's DOA when trying to get those sites back online.

      Haven't used the routers (I use opnsense), but the APs - indoor and outdoor and switches (no per-port enterprise grade gaming RGB though) have been good, and omada's software controller is a clone of Unifi's. I used to use Unifi Cloud Keys and software controller at various times but now just use the omada software one on a VPS (and have my sites VPN in so I don't open it to the internet). Don't use any cloud-related stuff so can't comment on that.

      Still like Ubiquiti for the point to point stuff, but Unifi was becoming less and less reliable for me. I am interesting in trying tp link's 5ghz ac-based point to point bridges, interested to see how to compare to the Nanostation stuff which I've found is rock solid and relatively cheap.

      I have been using eap245s primarily, tried a 620HD because I got one cheap and it has been nearly as stable, had one instance when Apple devices only didn't want to associate with it, a reboot of the 620hd fixed it. New fw update released during last few days promises increased reliability. Have also been using EAP110outdoor, 110, 115, 225 and all no issues.

      For the OP's model, looks like it's dropped to around $180 from a variety of sellers, so this is a slight discount from that.

      (Completely OT but also saw these EAP610s cheap on ebay - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/176336054559 - however something is super dodgy with the serial numbers drilled out, I think they may be RMAs that the buyer has sourced somehow… they seem to list them every few weeks - so buyer beware)

      • OldSchoolHarry on 20/04/2024 - 13:16

        I might give it a shot! Thanks.

        • bdl on 20/04/2024 - 13:39

          No problem - if you're comfortable with Unifi then it's pretty much the same, setup-wise.

  • FTTNope on 20/04/2024 - 12:22
    +6

    "Technical Details
    Graphics Coprocessor ‎NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080"

    Good stuff Amazon

  • OzTech74L on 20/04/2024 - 12:38

    I bought one of these and the signal immediately dropped from 800+mbps to a crawling speed of 25mbps when I moved from indoor to my front lawn approximately 12 metres away.. I used openspeedtest as self hosted to do the local speed test. I returned it the next day of receiving it.

    • skittlebrau on 20/04/2024 - 15:00
      +1

      That sounds about right depending on the device you’re using, signal attenuation caused by the building, interference etc. I get the same thing with my UAP-AC-Pro that’s inside where my front door is - that’s why I have a separate access point in my carport.

      • OzTech74L on 22/04/2024 - 23:43

        I ended up using again my ruckus r610. I get about 300mbps at the same spot.

  • NK on 20/04/2024 - 13:04

    changed from 2x unifi uap pro to 2 of these.. much faster throughput but a slight drop in signal strength bi can at least use the full 250mbps I was getting through my wan connection now..

  • Yekul on 20/04/2024 - 13:07
    +1

    Been using various tp-link access points, waiting for the 6e products to drop in price before upgrading (currently still on wifi 5).

    For the price point, honestly, they're really impressive. Great coverage, good roaming, and offer substantial management options for the price point. I use Omada controller via docker which works great, but the mobile app is decent enough for basic stuff too. I really don't have hesitations in recommending them. However, the EAP-225 outdoor unit has absolutely atrocious 2.4GHz wifi, which for an outdoor device is really frustrating. So basically, as with all things you can get a dud product in an otherwise decent lineup.
    (it's a well documented issue but I guess the user base is relatively small and it's not fixable via firmware)

    • skittlebrau on 20/04/2024 - 18:02

      I’m on UniFi AC gear at the moment, but at this rate I might as well wait for WiFi 7 APs to drop so I can upgrade my main switch at the same time.

  • miasommers on 20/04/2024 - 14:44

    Does this incorporate into the deco app and deco mesh?

    • skittlebrau on 20/04/2024 - 14:57
      +2

      No, the Deco range is TP-Link’s consumer range and the app doesn’t give you control over these. Omada is their enthusiast/business range and offers more advanced controls.

      • miasommers on 20/04/2024 - 16:20

        Thanks for that.

  • SAU on 20/04/2024 - 15:06

    Can this be used with Dream Router as PoE access point?

    • bdl on 20/04/2024 - 15:12
      +1

      It will work, but you're off not crossing the streams and sticking to one brand (if your case, Ubiquiti Unifi) so you get a single pane of management

      • bdl on 20/04/2024 - 19:41

        *better off

  • bdl on 20/04/2024 - 15:14

    Also, some of you may notice that the EAP653 is around the same price - this is a better deal since it comes with a DC power supply (good if you want to resell the unit in future) and slightly higher power output (EAP653 is US-spec which is slightly lower power output)

    source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TPLink_Omada/comments/xeqjy5/eap_62…

    On a side note, I've also found TP link support good - lost a ceiling mount for a EAP245 and was posted one free when I contacted them

    • Yekul on 20/04/2024 - 17:09
      +1

      EAP650 is the full power version, for anyone reading above. Bdl mixes up his first sentence.

      Worth noting it’s actually a huge difference, providing 25dBm versus the 22dBm of the EAP653.

      • bdl on 20/04/2024 - 17:15

        @yekul thanks for the clarification, I was unclear

        I meant to say that the EAP650 deal (the OP) deal is a better deal over the EAP653 so don't get tempted seeing as that they're around the same price :)

        • Yekul on 20/04/2024 - 17:17

          Ah right. I read it as you saying that the 653 was a better deal. Thanks for clarification 👍

  • ShMiCk on 21/04/2024 - 08:39

    This or a mesh system?

    Wouldn’t a mesh system be better for roaming devices?

    • adam149 on 21/04/2024 - 09:58
      -2

      This is a mesh system

      • skittlebrau on 21/04/2024 - 22:30
        +1

        I didn’t neg you, but you’re half right. You can use this in mesh mode, but the problem with that is there’s no dedicated wireless backhaul so the bandwidth will be shared with clients. Might not be a big deal for some users, but something to be aware of.

        • ShMiCk on 22/04/2024 - 08:49

          Can’t you use wired backhaul for Mesh?

    • skittlebrau on 21/04/2024 - 22:32
      +1

      Omada APs support WiFi roaming.

      https://community.tp-link.com/en/business/forum/topic/544652

      • ShMiCk on 22/04/2024 - 08:50
        -1

        So what is the main difference/advantage between roaming and Mesh?

        • skittlebrau on 22/04/2024 - 16:02
          +1

          I think you’re confusing the two terms. A WiFi mesh is simply two or more access points that are connected via wireless uplink. Roaming refers to devices moving between different access points (AP) on the same SSID, whether they’re part of a mesh network or traditional setup of multiple APs with wired connection back to a centralised network switch.

          Wired backhaul wins every time, but it’s not physically or financially possible to run wired connections to APs, so that’s when you’d use WiFi mesh.

          • ShMiCk on 22/04/2024 - 18:58

            @skittlebrau: I’ve seen some mesh systems that have a wired backhaul, like Synology.

            In this scenario, wouldn’t mesh be better than switching AP while roaming?

            • skittlebrau on 22/04/2024 - 21:19
              +1

              @ShMiCk: You’re still switching APs when you’re in a mesh network though. My sister has a Deco mesh network and the network dashboard shows you which clients are connected to each AP.

              ‘Mesh’ is really just a marketing term for a wifi system that has an easy setup and handoff/roaming capability between APs operating on the same SSID.

      • adam149 on 22/04/2024 - 18:22

        TLDR need the wifi controller

  • adam149 on 21/04/2024 - 09:58
    -1

    2 of these or uac pro wifi 6

  • daniesaurs on 21/04/2024 - 22:18

    How does this compare to the TP-Link Deco AX3000 ($160 on Amazon) and can existing Deco M5 be used together with it?

    • skittlebrau on 21/04/2024 - 22:40
      +1

      Omada and Deco can’t be directly configured easily with each other since they’re targeted at different audiences (business vs home). These APs are ideally ceiling mounted or wall mounted, whereas Deco AX3000 works best when standing/upright.

  • NinjaSniper85 on 23/04/2024 - 20:47
    -1

    Man, I have the Omada System, but the only issue is my whole house is covered from front to back, including the other side of the footpath. The range is nuts! I have 2x WAP EAP620 HD (US) v1.0. (Telco licensee holder) :)

    I would love to see some outdoor Omada WAP >:D Then my weird SSIDs I am broadcasting will be over everyone's household. Only people who are wardriving will try to hack me >_<

    Always hide your Main SSID

    My Network System
    Controller OC200
    Router ER605 v1.0
    Switch TL-SG2428P v2.0 TL-SG2210MP v1.0
    WAP 2x EAP620 HD(US) v1.0

    • bdl on 23/04/2024 - 20:59

      Hiding SSID doesn't do much. I think you have to turn down your output power, looks like it's frying your brain :)

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