[PreOrder] ASRock Arc B580 Challenger 12GB OC GPU, Assassin's Creed Shadows, 6-M Ubisoft Classics $449 Delivered + SC @ Scorptec

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[PreOrder] ASRock Arc B580 Challenger 12GB OC GPU, Assassin's Creed Shadows, 6-M Ubisoft Classics $449 Delivered + SC @ Scorptec
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phocks on 11/01/2025 - 11:09 scorptec.com.au (996 clicks)
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ASRock Arc B580 Challenger 12GB OC (Base: 2740MHz), 12GB GDDR6 (19000MHz), PCI-E 4.0, HDMI 2.1, 3x DisplayPort 2.1 with DSC, Stylish Metal Backplate, Dual Fan Design, LED Indicator, Battlemage
3 Year Warranty

I've been wanting to test out Intel's new GPUs and this seemed like a pretty good deal to me for the new B580, so I ordered.

(They also have the 3 fan Steel Legend model for $30 more ($479) with slightly higher clock speed, which maybe I should have sprung for in hindsight)

Free Assassin's Creed Shadows and 6 months of Ubisoft+ Classics apparently worth $150.

$449, free delivery to Metro areas - Delivery: eta: 28-01-2025

Surcharges: 0% Afterpay & ZipMoney, 1% card & PayPal payments.

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  • Commodore64 on 11/01/2025 - 11:10
    +8

    Not a bad deal, but I'm almost certain Intel will be releasing larger memory models (potentially 24gb) and am very curious to see what comes next with the battlemage architecture.

    • Aureus on 11/01/2025 - 12:06
      +10

      The larger memory models are supposed to be targeting professional/ai workloads. Fair chance this is as good as it is going to get for Intel gaming this generation.

      • jasswolf on 11/01/2025 - 12:52
        +3

        With the RTX 5070 and 5070 Ti pricing, performance and features, this is likely correct.

        They'll be looking to driver optimisations to remain competitive with the RTX 5060 and equivalent AMD card when they release.

        No point chasing even lower yields and margins on a 384-bit bus card without it being able to out manoeuvre the RTX 5070 or RX 9070XT.

      • Maddsyz27 on 11/01/2025 - 23:06

        Apparently the 24GB battlemage gpu will be made on the B580 die. So it should just be a Double Vram card

  • J0hn on 11/01/2025 - 11:14
    +13

    hopefully they release something similar to a 4080 super!!

  • bob98 on 11/01/2025 - 11:16
    +22

    honestly nearly bought one last night. then i watched a b580vs1080ti and the 1080ti was running cooler with higher fps in some games. it was only 5-10fps less on the 1080ti in a lot of other games. how the fk is a 10 year old card even competing.

    • BROKENKEYBOARD on 11/01/2025 - 11:34
      +26

      crypto inflation > covid inflation > ai inflation

      • buffalo bill on 12/01/2025 - 13:04

        What can this card mine profitably? If nothing then that shouldn't come into play anymore.

        • DeToxin on 12/01/2025 - 15:22

          I think they are meaning more generally - pushing up the cost of cards across the board because consumers now have to compete with AI businesses in terms of chip manufacturing

    • Tuttorix on 11/01/2025 - 11:50
      +18

      The B580 actually has an issue where if it's running with mid-tier other components, the performance drops off heaps. Most benchmarks seen when it was seen as "amazing" is apparently only with the latest and greatest cpus etc.

      • initiateit on 11/01/2025 - 19:47
        -1

        is that just resizable BAR?

        • scud70 on 11/01/2025 - 20:26
          +2

          no, at low settings and 1080p combined with even a 5600 in cpu intensive situations and games the card tanks vs say a 9800X3D …and it's due to the driver overhead but it is really bad at the moment.

    • JerryBeansMan on 11/01/2025 - 11:56
      +25

      I mean the 1080ti is probably the best gpu ever made (In terms of how performant it was for the time and the value proposition). I don't think we will ever see a gpu as good (for the consumer) ever again.

      • gentlekoala5906 on 11/01/2025 - 16:23
        +4

        Agreed it was the 🐐

      • BusMan247 on 11/01/2025 - 17:49

        I still have mine. It was paired with a 1440p and it played everything awesome.

  • ItsMeAgro on 11/01/2025 - 11:42
    +39

    The initial reviews on these were glowing, since they beat more expensive NVIDIA and AMD cards, and no longer seem to have any of the previous gen's driver issues in terms of performance and stability.

    BUT a few days later reviewers noticed something:

    They currently don't always perform that well on mid/budget CPUs.

    Standard practice when reviewing GPUs is to use a PC with the fastest gaming CPU available (so that you're actually comparing just the GPU performance).

    But a few days after release, when they tried the Arc B580 with the kind of CPUs most people will pair it with (budget and mid-range) they found the performance drops a lot, in some games, so much that it no longer beats the competitor cards.

    Now it's important to note this might be temporary (just a performance issue in the drivers making them take up too much CPU time, so much that they are taking away some of what some very-multicore games need. Might be a glitch that can be quickly fixed).

    But right now, you should look up benchmarks with your CPU (or a similar one) and the games you want, to see what you'll actually get, before you buy.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=b580+reviews

    You may end up deciding to hold off and see if they fix this.

    • BROKENKEYBOARD on 11/01/2025 - 11:51
      +5

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYOj-r_-3mA

      The latest review shows it's not that bad overall, but in very specific games it lost ~50% performance with a slower CPU

      • marshmall0w2 on 11/01/2025 - 13:20
        -4

        not that bad overall

        it lost ~50% performance with a slower CPU

        Huh?

        • witheredcouch on 11/01/2025 - 13:43
          +6

          They are talking overall not that bad, but in very specific cases it is bad.

        • bAps on 11/01/2025 - 14:25
          +3

          in very specific games

    • leonardr on 11/01/2025 - 11:52
      +1

      Thanks for this! Very informative

      • ItsMeAgro on 11/01/2025 - 12:40
        +7

        No worries.

        I looked it up on PcPartPicker au, and for us here in Australia, the B580 is an even harder sell right now, since both the RX 7600 and RTX 4060 have options for $429 e.g.:

        https://www.centrecom.com.au/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-4060-8…

        That 4060 seems like it would be better value if you already have a budget CPU. Depending on what games/res/etc you play, and if this performance issue persists. It's only 8GB, not 16GB, but don't forget: that only matters if it translates to better performance. Look at the actual benchmarks.

        • DeToxin on 12/01/2025 - 15:34
          +1

          I would chime in and say that the 2nd hand market is pretty good at the moment too.
          Edit: given the terrible gpu market atm

          I was looking for a low/mid range GPU for my old PC that I recycled into a secondary htpc (with some gaming) and picked up a 3060ti for $300 about 6 months ago.

          With the impending release of 50 series and new and options people are a bit more flexible with their selling prices I think

    • OzzyBrak on 11/01/2025 - 12:08

      What are budget and midrange cpus?

      • ItsMeAgro on 11/01/2025 - 12:28
        +4

        Hardware unboxed saw drops with the very popular Ryzen 5 5600, I'd call that mid range (though people planning new builds might usually consider it budget, since it's older now).

        I haven't seen any actual budget CPUs yet (like my i3-13100f and my 3300x) but logically you'd expect them to be more affected, not less.

      • StormOfRazors on 11/01/2025 - 12:36
        +1

        At this point it seems like you're at risk of performance falling off for anything older than the Ryzen 5600.
        The key issue though is that the performance drop-off for the Arc GPUs seems to be due to them having a higher driver overhead (simply, requiring more CPU usage) than comparable AMD or Nvidia cards), which means the problem isnt tied to given CPU - its just that issue becomes more impactful on older CPUs.
        The HardwareUnboxed video linked above is a great resource.

        • CrazyTachikoma on 11/01/2025 - 17:07
          +1

          yep, nvidias driver overhead is also 20% higher than AMD as tested by them as well

          important if your cpu is not high end

    • Lief on 11/01/2025 - 12:58
      +4

      The initial reviews on these were glowing, since they beat more expensive NVIDIA and AMD cards

      It's also worth noting that while this is true in America, in Australia the RX 7600 and RTX 4060 are slightly cheaper than this deal (though they only have 8GB of VRAM) which also makes the positive reviews less applicable.

      • ItsMeAgro on 11/01/2025 - 13:04
        +1

        Yep the reviews were based on it being at least 10% cheaper than both of those in the USA.

        But here in Oz? Both are cheaper than this B580, as low as $429 delivered on pcpartpicker au.

        Seems inevitable the B580 will fall soon enough, but right now? Not a bargain, sadly.

    • RedHab on 11/01/2025 - 13:08
      +1

      Also note that your PC and OS need to support resizeble BAR for these Intel cards to work.

  • Bid Sniper on 11/01/2025 - 11:48

    If they release a 5080 equivalent Im in.

  • jimmej on 11/01/2025 - 11:53
    +23

    I really hope that these do really well. I am sick of buying Jensen more jackets.

    • shabaka on 11/01/2025 - 12:14
      +19

      rumour has it it's the same jacket

      it just looks different 'cause of dlss and frame generation

      • edforums on 11/01/2025 - 12:20
        +3

        Actually the new jacket has less fabric than the older ones, but they managed to make it look "better", and for the same price

        • shabaka on 11/01/2025 - 14:11
          +2

          yeah the fabric is actually thinner than ever, but they compensate for it using thread compression

    • DeToxin on 12/01/2025 - 15:36
      +1

      I actually can't stand Jensen

  • Cupa Bundy Drinker on 11/01/2025 - 12:22

    Sorry for a noob question.. How it compares to Intel Arc B580 Battlemage 12G Graphics Card 31P06HB0BA? Thanks!

    • ItsMeAgro on 11/01/2025 - 12:31
      +4

      Basically identical performance.

      There's no real significant performance difference between brands.

      • TheFreaK on 11/01/2025 - 12:32
        +3

        Actually I’d expect better performance from the board partner than the reference design as they typically do a better job cooling the card

        • ItsMeAgro on 11/01/2025 - 18:50

          Sure, but we're not talking about 10% better FPS here, are we?

          A few frames in certain games? Sure.

  • Kelvin on 11/01/2025 - 12:47
    -4

    Hmmm…

    Very little no reason to buy the B580 over the RTX4060, other than if you are worried than the 8gb vram will become limiting …
    Pricing in australia.. is very similar to both cards.. and sometimes you can get the Nvidia card for $400 or even less..
    and performance is similar or worse for the Intel card on mid to lower tier CPUs..

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/880718

    RTX4060 ATL - $329..

    Best to pay the small NVidia tax, and get a card with solid drivers and support..

    Intel is the newbie, in the gaming GPU market.. it will take many years to get to the level of AMD and Nvidia iin this market..
    It took AMD almost a decade of catchup to even get drivers right..

    Intel is financially in trouble, getting off non profitable / less viable divisions… look at their Nuc / Nuc notebook line..
    The processors, are a poor 2nd to AMD at the moment..

    They have a history of entering and bailing out on the GPU market..

    My predictation is that they will bail out.. or significant cost cut the GPU division.. in an attempt to ressurrect / fix their CPU issues..
    Either way.. I don't think, we can expect as much resources to be poured into fixing any GPU issues… until their bread and butter (CPUs) are back on track..

    The lack of intel cards on the market.. also means that pricing, is at RRP.. without any specials
    The new 50xx series cards are around the corner, and we might see a runout on 40xx series cards… and some bargains around..

    • botchie on 11/01/2025 - 12:55

      I don't know why ppl bother with Intel , they are clearly very behind the curve and unless they drop the price I don't see how this is enticing to anyone

    • Merlict on 11/01/2025 - 12:59
      +4

      other than if you are worried than the 8gb vram will become limiting
      Not will become, it's already a huge weakness. Simply not enough.

    • ItsMeAgro on 11/01/2025 - 13:12
      +2

      I don't think intel will bail out when the profit margins are so enormous on GPUs right now.

      Prices never went all the way back down to the historical trend line (even accounting for inflation) after the COVID/crypto/scalper GPU price crisis 5 years ago, and NVIDIA and AMD are still printing money like crazy.

      You shouldn't be getting negged, though, you're quite correct that this is a hard sell given the RTX 4060 is cheaper. 16GB matters for 4k/ultra/RT, sure, and will matter even more in coming years, but the benchmarks don't lie: the 8GB 4060 is STILL faster, regardless, with mid/budget CPUs, in most games, and at the most common resolutions/settings choices.

      Hardware Unboxed is reluctant to recomment the B580 over the 4060 even at US prices:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYOj-r_-3mA

      But here? The B580 is a hard sell until it falls another 50 bucks or so.

      • sane on 11/01/2025 - 14:04

        I'd guess intel will keep producing GPUs, so they can keep producing tiles for their APU/CPUs. However as discrete entities - they have a lot of issues that make them not the bargain some people hope for. 77/7800 XT or the 9070 if it comes out at a sane price are going to have better longevity.

      • Kelvin on 11/01/2025 - 14:59

        Wow.. my neg vote was removed..

        Non computer illiterate people as going to look at votes and think this is a great deal..

        which it isn't

        They pretty is no real live situation were a gamer should be buying this card!!!

        Yes if you happen to have a 9800X3d.. however.. people with this CPU, will be looking at a higher tier higher performance..

        Any upgrader, with a low to mid CPU.. should NOT be buying this either..

        Anybody buying this, is very likely to be disappointed in the long run…

        Competition in the GPU market is good..
        I hope some idiots buy this video card … to make sure intel does not exit the market.. however

        there's no way.. i could recommend this card to any friends

    • qtvinsta on 11/01/2025 - 13:15
      +1

      Shame its not a B780 at this price… would buy it just for sh!ts and giggles

    • Boop Doucha on 11/01/2025 - 20:57
      +2

      I'm not sure why this got so many down votes. I think it's a realistic assessment.

      • ozfool on 11/01/2025 - 22:54
        +2

        He admitted pricing and performance was similar between rtx4060 and B580, and then whinged a bunch of random stuff about Intel business decisions, and then somehow concluded "They pretty is no real live situation were a gamer should be buying this card!!!"

        Guy seems to be taking this product personally. I reckon Intel fired his dad and banged his mum

        • OzzyBrak on 12/01/2025 - 12:26
          +1

          And took his inheritance from his grandmother

        • Boop Doucha on 12/01/2025 - 17:29

          Okay. I think saying not to buy the card is hyperbolic. However, I do think Nvidia cards are generally easier to get up and running than the intel offering.

          I actually bought a b580 to test and ended up installing it in my nephews system. It took around 90mins to get it fully up and running.

          Each time I installed the software / drivers the ARC control panel was missing. After a number of attempts using DDU I had almost given up. Then I realised that an incomplete windows update was affecting the installation. Once that was resolved, the control panel successfully installed.

          The second issue I had is that my nephew uses custom resolutions to play Fortnite. Every time I tried to apply a custom resolution the control panel would freeze. I was unable to resolve the issue.

          In terms of value, it's a good card but I have never experienced these types of problems with either the Nvidia or AMD cards I have owned.

  • Bunnyburger on 11/01/2025 - 13:10

    Gentlemen, how much better is this than a 1080ti?

    • ItsMeAgro on 11/01/2025 - 13:23
      +2

      Not enough to bother upgrading, IMO.

      And many people using a 1080ti have older PCs without resizeable bar, which is still a must when using an Intel GPU.

      • Bunnyburger on 11/01/2025 - 14:48
        +1

        Thanks for the advice. I'll keep what I got then. I miss paying $600 for top tier GPU

        • immrnonamehello on 11/01/2025 - 15:39

          I think it's also worth remembering that AUD has declined significantly since those days as well…

    • Kevin Bacon on 11/01/2025 - 15:00
      +2

      If you have a 1080Ti, aim for RTX 4070 Super or RX 7900 GRE level of performance, those would be near 2x performance increase.
      But wait a little more for Nvidia and AMD next gen pricing, both vendors promise new feature (DLSS4 transformers model and FSR4 with ML).
      In worst case there will be clearance sale of older cards.

      • TheFreaK on 11/01/2025 - 20:27
        +1

        5070 time I suppose

  • meatgasm on 11/01/2025 - 14:19
    +2

    Would any linux wizards be able to tell me if its better if I should buy this as opposed to an old 1080Ti or 3060Ti or something? As a first dedicated GPU to pair with an Intel Core i5-6500? Or would I be better off with an AMD offering? Ive been out of the GPU/CPU loop for a little while so I'm clueless.

    The workload is going to be mainly light gaming and media encoding.

    • phocks on 11/01/2025 - 14:26
      +3

      I believe these Intel cards have native AV1 video encoding. That's one of the reasons I want to try them out.

    • Wonderfool on 12/01/2025 - 04:21
      +1

      If you're willing to pay this price, go for the 4060. It has AV1 encoding and dlss for modern games.

      Otherwise, either of the ones you have listed is fine.

  • ozfool on 11/01/2025 - 14:36
    +1

    At the risk of repeating other comments, the intel cards have a high driver overhead that will strain any weaker-midrange CPU. E.g. you probably want a system with an i5-11600, r5 5600 or better to just be able to match the performance of an rtx4060. If you have a worse CPU than that, or your mobo doesn't support reBAR, then just get an rtx4060 in this price range.

    Still, it's fine. The B580, 4060 and 7600 are similar performance, similar price (in Aus at least) and it essentially comes down to preference of which team you feel like supporting. There's a chance that intel might improve this driver issue over time, but they havn't even acknowledged the issue yet, so don't count your chickens before they hatch.

  • JinXR on 11/01/2025 - 14:53

    My 5 year old 2080 super is faster than this.

    • Forfiet on 11/01/2025 - 16:03
      +1

      Sadly faster than my 2080 Super, that just stopped rendering 3d games…..for some reason….. :(

      • bunnybash on 11/01/2025 - 18:09
        +3

        Your GPU was ordered to die so you’d buy a new 5090.

        • Forfiet on 12/01/2025 - 17:24

          Hardly, it was replaced by 6700xt awhile ago, but I retested it later on a different computer loaded with Linux and it still had the same issue…. :(

    • ItsMeAgro on 11/01/2025 - 18:48

      Looking at the Steam Hardware Survey, even a 1080 is better than what most gamers have.

      A 2080 super is still a great card that can play all modern games well (just not always at the max res/settings/RT/etc).

    • Wonderfool on 12/01/2025 - 04:23
      +1

      It better (profanity) be. The rtx label made that card heavily inflated in price.

  • digitalaxon on 11/01/2025 - 15:25
    +2

    Twin fan GPUs are great if your case is space constraint, otherwise I would suggest ponying up the few extra $ to get a 3-fan model (regardless of manufacturer and chip) to benefit from better cooling and lower noise levels.(and longer lasting fans due to lower RPM's)

    I've observed three fan gpu's usually have a starting fan speed of around 1000 rpm, while twin fan cards usually start at 1300 rpm, and you certainly can hear the difference as the heatsink starts heating up.and the fan speed increases.

    • gentlekoala5906 on 11/01/2025 - 16:21
      +2

      But somehow NVIDIA is cooling the 5090, a 575W GPU, with dual slot dual fan cooler 🤯

      • digitalaxon on 11/01/2025 - 17:09
        +2

        Even a 4090 with a TDP of 450 w, never really hits 450 w except when running something like Furmark. Typical gaming hovers around 350 based on techpowerup's review of the 4090FE.

        Nvidia's 5090's also use a phase change thermal pad and uses a vapour chamber.

        Nvidia may have used some other secret sauce to squeeze out performance, or those two fans are going to run slightly fast when gaming..

  • gentlekoala5906 on 11/01/2025 - 16:20
    +4

    This card struggles with older CPUs check out Steve's coverage

    https://youtu.be/CYOj-r_-3mA

  • ozfool on 11/01/2025 - 17:25
    +1

    Note that the "free delivery" is uninsured, you will be prompted to pay $8 for auspost insurance, which is fair and probably advisable

  • Subere on 11/01/2025 - 21:03
    +4

    How are they offering a game that isn't even out yet and continues to be delayed?😂

  • Ozvalue on 12/01/2025 - 00:52
    +2

    No fake frames no deal

    • scud70 on 12/01/2025 - 07:33
      +3

      How dare you…it's frame smoothing!!!!

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