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Seems to be the only msrp model since PCCaseGear got their cards straight from powercolor, you can see the price now by googling the model at PCCaseGear

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  • SuBw00FeR on 06/03/2025 - 22:08
    +17

    Ok ok if they're all around that that's actually quite good.

    • darkkito on 06/03/2025 - 22:10

      looks like the bigger brands are around the 1400 mark

      • SuBw00FeR on 06/03/2025 - 22:13
        +35

        Eh, doesn't really matter tbh, they're all the same card really. PowerColor has been doing AMD for yonks.

      • Tbargain12 on 06/03/2025 - 22:58
        +23

        Powercolor is a big brand for AMD cards.

      • Jz714 on 07/03/2025 - 08:57
        +10

        Powercolor and Sapphire been making Radeon cards before they're even AMD.

        • SuBw00FeR on 07/03/2025 - 12:04
          +2

          I still remember my sapphire radeon 9800 XT I bought for playing Counter-strike: Source 😭😭😭

  • 009 on 06/03/2025 - 22:10

    Upper limit is $1449 at pc case gear.

  • BrokenRiedel on 06/03/2025 - 22:18
    +42

    Cheaper and significantly better than 5070 (which is a stinker). Matching 5070ti in a bunch of titles in a bunch of reviews.
    Powercolour a good brand too.

      • Pacify on 06/03/2025 - 22:38
        +39

        RX 9070 XT vs 5070 is not much of a decision, 5070 isn't even close. The 5070 is an absolute stinker for the price

          • CrispyChrispy on 06/03/2025 - 22:53
            +24

            @jasswolf:

            The second you flip on modern features

            You're suggesting multi-frame gen over real, raw frames? Are you kidding?

            • DrScavenger on 06/03/2025 - 23:18
              +4

              @CrispyChrispy: Try DLSS 4. Amd is not just competing nvidia's raw performance, they are also competing against DLSS. Frame gen is new but it will also get better and better just like how dlss now is much much better than dlss 1.

              Also I fully support AMD because nvidia is off the rails

              • CrispyChrispy on 06/03/2025 - 23:29
                +5

                @jasswolf: You realise only a (very minute) handful of games have path-tracing, right? Yes, the number of games using it will increase but it's not like the 5070 is going to be running Cyberpunk 2077 with RT overdrive smoothly either…

                And yes, the new DLSS Transformer model still looks better than FSR4, but the raw performance (and value) of the 9070 XT is just that much better that it isn't a competition.

                Productivity workloads remain a different story, however.

                • jasswolf on 06/03/2025 - 23:38
                  -7

                  @CrispyChrispy:

                  You realise only a (very minute) handful of games have path-tracing, right?

                  And what will that be like in 3-4 years… how long do you think people own GPUs for?

                  Yes, the number of games using it will increase but it's not like the 5070 is going to be running Cyberpunk 2077 with RT overdrive smoothly either…

                  1440p DLSS Transformer on balanced should be about 50 FPS (Ray Reconstruction on). Look into neural radiance cache to see how that kind of output can be taken over the top over time. I'd probably drop a few settings to get it to 70 FPS before flipping on frame gen.

                  • CrispyChrispy on 07/03/2025 - 01:42
                    +6

                    @jasswolf:

                    And what will that be like in 3-4 years… how long do you think people own GPUs for?

                    And the measly 12GB VRAM will be a serious issue by then. We're already seeing it with Indiana Jones.

                • FujinShu on 07/03/2025 - 00:37
                  -4

                  @CrispyChrispy:

                  Productivity workloads remain a different story, however.

                  And that’s why you get a Mac.
                  Radeon GPU for gaming, Mac for productivity, and MAYBE a used NVIDIA GPU for an AI server.
                  This is going to be the future until either NVIDIA drops their prices or AMD catches up to NVIDIA and Intel on GPU and encoded performance respectively.

              • Pacify on 07/03/2025 - 12:26
                +2

                @jasswolf: 5070 is not a path tracing card, unless you want 20 fps, so the argument is a bit pointless.

                And if you look at the benchmarks, this still out does the 5070 in Indiana, which does not let you turn off RT

                • jasswolf on 07/03/2025 - 16:15
                  -1

                  @Pacify: You need to go check your working, because your info is running at a 33% strike rate.

              • WorstAgreeableRadish on 07/03/2025 - 16:05

                @jasswolf: Things definitely have changed a bit.

                In the DLSS 3 era, DLSS was only really useful at 4K. 1440p inputs were too low res, meaning it looked like crap, so it was a non-feature for 1440p gamers really.

                Now, with DLLS 4 is looks better, so it's useful for 1440p. But AMD have closed the gap by a lot. I don't know how FSR 4 compares at 1440, but it comes close at 4K. The artefacts are also not quite as distracting as before, it just loses some detail compared to DLSS 4.

                RT - not all games even look better with it, but yes, you're right, has better image quality compared to AMD overall. Although, in my opinion, higher resolution textures can make a bigger difference than higher RT settings. I would rather play 60fps at higher resolution textures than 45 fps with RT. And lets not kid ourselves, a 5070 (Ti) isn't going to do path tracing.

          • Huntakillaz on 06/03/2025 - 22:55
            +14

            @jasswolf: Until you run out of VRAM and the game starts stuttering (really bad 1% lows), or crashes,

            Yeah prefer smooth as game play of the 9070XT than worrying about that shit.

            Watch the 1% lows:
            https://youtu.be/UxvmfEZkvc8?t=508

            The VRAM stuttering (while extreme sand shows worst case, it means the card wont last more than 2-3yrs as new games get more intensive)
            https://youtu.be/qPGDVh_cQb0?t=233
            https://youtu.be/ntSylZ1Bp1Y?t=40

              • Huntakillaz on 06/03/2025 - 23:37
                +6

                @jasswolf: Yeah nah, I'd rather spend more time playing rather that trying to tweak the game and card to be playable

                Feel free to play the settings and tweaking game, swapping dlls , if you want and enjoy spending your time that way
                Also Native > artifacted DLSS
                Also Brute forcing Native > waiting on hopium for updates to games and AI

                Most people just want to be able to plug and play without having to worry about all that especially when spending over $1k of their hard earned cash.

                • jasswolf on 06/03/2025 - 23:40
                  -3

                  @Huntakillaz:

                  Yeah nah, I'd rather spend more time playing rather that trying to tweak the game and card to be playable

                  That's modern graphics. You're also getting worse visual quality with raytracing on AMD cards under this paradigm. If you don't like that, go buy a console.

                  swapping dlls

                  Built into the NVIDIA app now.

                  Also Native > artifacted DLSS

                  If your options are TAA, FXAA or DLSS 4, it's not even close. Native is honestly a little behind DLSS Quality most of the time now… comes down to the individual game and conditions.

                  • heef on 06/03/2025 - 23:48

                    @jasswolf: ew, NVIDIA app? The only reason I ever open AMD Software is to update drivers every so often.

                    Many of us have busy lives and just want to sit down and play a game in the spare bit of time we have, not sit there changing settings.

                    (And yes, I realise this used to be the case for AMD, oh how the turn tables.)

                    • jasswolf on 06/03/2025 - 23:59

                      @heef: We're talking about intercepting DLSS DLL calls and pushing that through an updated model. AMD will use the same mechanism.

                      Currently the setting also reverts to default when a new driver is installed, but that kind of makes sense while they get performance data about their implementation.

                      • heef on 07/03/2025 - 00:59

                        @jasswolf: Still don't understand why you would pay more for a card that you have to tinker with DLLs when you could, y'know, not have to?

                        But thanks for explaining it in fairly simple terms.

                  • Huntakillaz on 06/03/2025 - 23:59
                    +4

                    @jasswolf: Yeah but the card still won't last past the next gen,

                    12GB for 1440p is DOA, its already having issues at launch, and you want to be adding in dlss and AI features to gimp whatever performance it does have even more,
                    AI features have a tax, they're not free
                    Did you not see the stuttery mess it is? go have a look

                    9070XT 1% lows are the Avg framerate of the 5070, so how is the 5070 better in these NVIDIA Championing titles?
                    https://youtu.be/gWIIA-a9Q9A?t=713
                    https://youtu.be/gWIIA-a9Q9A?t=605

                    Also People in mid range don't buy a card every gen, except ppl like you.

                    • jasswolf on 07/03/2025 - 00:02
                      -4

                      @Huntakillaz: I genuinely don't think it's DoA, as a lot of the AI enhancements are built around driving down VRAM and other computation requirements. 8:1 jump in texture compression, for example (with small caveats).

                      Takes time to implement though, and AMD will have their own solution. A refresh with 15 GB of 34+ GBps VRAM on 160-bit bus would be a killer card, likewise a 12GB RTX 5060 Super.

                      • LilSlip on 07/03/2025 - 09:19

                        @jasswolf: A lot of your argument depends on 'A lot of AI enhancements bring down VRAM requirements'.

                        You do realise this tech is being baked into DirectX 12, right? Read NVIDIA's own GitHub page where they outline their texture compression implementation.
                        Here's the link:

                        https://github.com/NVIDIA-RTX/RTXNTC?tab=readme-ov-file

                        I'll quote it:

                        'Supported Graphics APIs:

                        DirectX 12 - with Agility SDK for Cooperative Vector support (optional)'

                        This technology is coming to every GPU that supports DirectX 12 shader model 6, and will be accelerated on anything that has Cooperative Vector support.

                        Your argument that 'Nvidia will have less texture usage thanks to AI' falls apart when AMD can claim the same.

                        • jasswolf on 07/03/2025 - 09:55

                          @LilSlip: I mean I literally mentioned that AMD have their own solution in the works? It's definitely more advantageous to cards with more limited VRAM, though obviously most developers are going to use some of the gains to improve texture quality.

                          Not sure what your point is here given we're discussing visual quality and how each company is tackling performance issues.

                    • jasswolf on 07/03/2025 - 02:56

                      @Huntakillaz:

                      9070XT 1% lows are the Avg framerate of the 5070, so how is the 5070 better in these NVIDIA Championing titles?

                      Sorry missed this in the earlier reply: in Cyberpunk, RT Ultra is the preset below Psycho, which is again under Overdrive. It's far lighter, far more favourable to RDNA 3 & 4, hence the results you see there.

                      Indiana Jones has some issues with the texture pooling that don't tend to have clear visual impact unless set at low. Shadows setting is similar. Drop those two settings from Ultra or Supreme on a 12GB VRAM card while running PT and you're bringing it back to being relatively performative compared to the 50 and 40 series cards.

                      For full the full PT setting, they probably need to be at medium with DLSS Balanced.

                      • terriblebargainer on 07/03/2025 - 07:55

                        @jasswolf: Giving you the benefit of the doubt i will ask this question, i have only watch a couple of the 9070 reviews but yet to see any that align with your views that the 5070 is much better. Do you have any links to reviews that share this opinion with the evidence to back it up?

                        • jasswolf on 07/03/2025 - 08:45
                          -1

                          @terriblebargainer: Read the reply directly above yours, and view examinations of DLSS 4 vs FSR4.

                          Depending on your own personal suite of games the answer may vary, but with the current advancement of graphics tech, AMD still hits a wall with path tracing.

                          Daniel Owen has some coverage of this.

          • Hank Scorpion on 07/03/2025 - 08:18

            @jasswolf: Modern features? The AMD card also has frame gen and its native RT support seems to be no worse then the 5070, there are a couple outliers in that though. The 5070 is already having issues in some games at 1440P due to its VRAM, its just DOA. For most people the 9070XT is the easy winner over the 5070, at least for those who understand the choice.

            I'm talking about actual in game benchmarks that have a real impact on gaming performance. It seems like there's a clear winner between the two. The 5070Ti should be the 5070 and the 5070 should be a 5060 but Nvidia probably knew what AMD was going to top out at and decided they really like the colour green.

            • jasswolf on 07/03/2025 - 08:57
              -1

              @Hank Scorpion: Those outliers typically relate to pathtracing, today, while competing with upscaling via DLSS 4 (transformer with rest reconstruction) and FSR 3, at stock clocks.

              There's more enhancements to come with path tracing features in the NVIDIA RTX stack as well, some of which boost performance further.

        • Daffan on 07/03/2025 - 10:42
          +1

          5070 is poor because of VRAM not really performance, although Nvidia has about 20 other advantages right now. DLSS 4.0, Power Wattage/Heat, MFG x3/4, Reflex 2, NVPI (3rd party hook), RTX HDR, 80gbps DP 2.1b etc…

      • cnut on 06/03/2025 - 22:40
        +3

        FSR4 is looking to get better than DLSS3 CNN. But definitely worse than DLSS4 Transformer.

        It sits somewhere between the two DLSSs.

        • jasswolf on 06/03/2025 - 22:41
          -6

          It sits slightly above DLSS 3 CNN. It runs hybrid of the two models, so there's still a lot of smear despite some fast motion wins. It's a good solution, but it is behind.

          • cnut on 06/03/2025 - 22:42
            +4

            @jasswolf: Definitely behind. DLSS 4 is so much sharper and better at details.

            But for the price, the 9070XT is worth the compromise.

              • goodwillN1 on 06/03/2025 - 22:56
                +9

                @jasswolf: What tests are you looking at? 9070XT kicks 5070 ass in almost everything but a few RT outliers.

                • snep on 07/03/2025 - 08:50
                  +1

                  @goodwillN1: Yeah, it's interesting watching the mental gymnastics of some in this thread… I wonder if they are secretly editors of userbenchmark lol

        • DrScavenger on 06/03/2025 - 23:09

          AMD should invest some of that cpu money to their AI department for GPU

      • gromit on 07/03/2025 - 00:27
        +3

        The 5070 is a steaming turd. No cherry picking results can change that, Nvidia screwed the pooch on it.

      • stephendt on 07/03/2025 - 14:38

        Jenson is that you?

      • virtual81 on 07/03/2025 - 14:41
        +2

        I think you need to articulate what features you're talking about.

        As it stands 9070XT vs 5070…
        The 5070 is beaten by a wide margin in raster with DLSS4 enabled on 5070 and FSR4 enabled on 9070XT
        You could disable FSR4 and still come close to the 5070 with some kind of DLSS4 quality enabled.
        Real pure frames vs unsampled frames.

        Frame gen is the only thing that can change this, and ignoring the negativity directed at this tech, it's still not a solution that van be engaged in all cases (competitive games a great example).
        Fram gen has to prove itself before I'll seriously consider it.

        Ai… well… while the 5070 might have the capability but with only 12GB Vram it's going to be gimped at best.

        RT… again, Nvidia indeed hold an advantage here, but the 9070XT has shown strong gains for on RT titles.

        Hardware unboxed 6 RT game average @ 1440p shows the 5070 with an average 2fps gain over the AMD card.. this is where the AMD card should have shown its weakness, but ended up holding on with only a ~2.9% increase for the 5070.
        At 4k there was only a ~2.6% increase in favour of the 5070, the 9070XT has made clear gain in RT and seems to like running 4K

        Raster performance has the 5070 beaten by >13% on average at 1440p
        Moving to 4K the 5070 is destroyed >20%

        The 9070XT is a confident clear winner card price and future proofing ignored.
        But then factor in card pricing, the cheapest 5070 is going for ~ $50-$80 more than a 9070XT, just makes the cheaper card that little bit more worth while.
        Add 16GB vram over 12GB, a little more future proof.

        And for me personally, the option of not using the misguided 2x6 connector adds value, not sure of 5070 cards include an adaptor, if they don't the 5070 even worse again.
        But we can exclude that.

        So from a tiny loss vs the 5070 in a handful of RT titles to a significant gain in raster titles.

        For 2 cards that are essentially the same price why pick the one with 4GB less VRAM and ~ 15% less performance?

        I guess I'm asking you to articulate what feature negates those 2 things?

        • jasswolf on 07/03/2025 - 14:59
          -4

          My answers to all of this are already in this comments section, but the summary is:

          • Path tracing is the way forward, light RT loads don't stand for much and anything above that where RDNA4 is performant still lacks adequate denoising from them
          • RTX kit represents the neural rendering suite that NVIDIA will mostly hold over AMD for at least 2 years that reduces VRAM requirements while increasing image quality, at which point you're looking at a new generation of GPUs
          • DLSS 4 beats FSR 4 in almost every aspect, and mostly convincingly, offering the option of a lower equivalent setting for better image quality
          • the RTX 50 series overclocks better - and 5090 aside really should have been better clocked out of the box - and this significantly closes the raster gap

          The biggest pain point is the VRAM, but most of the games that trouble 12GB cards are either pushing settings to the extreme with an eye to a future solve, a lofty image quality target people would barely take in, or are horribly optimised.

          I can imagine we will see something like an RTX 5070 15GB that will use faster VRAM and a shorter bus combined with 24 Gbit (3 GB) chips. Whether it's an update in short time or a refresh, who knows, but unfortunately what little 24 Gbit GDDR7 there is right now is going into RTX 5090 laptops.

          • virtual81 on 07/03/2025 - 15:16
            +1

            @jasswolf: Everything you've said is talking about unproven future tech.

            If it's really that good then let it prove itself and i'll consider it for my next card 3-5 years fro now.

            Here. Now. 9070XT is the best option.

            Also re 50 series overclocks well.. that's great, but enough to make up the difference?
            On my 4K monitor it has a 20% gap to close before it approaches the 9070XT, and the 9070XT overclocking hasn't been tested yet, though i do suspect it has little margin given how far it seems to be pushed factory.

            If the 5070Ti was in stock and not much more expensive it might be worth a look.
            But Nvidia have to actually try to compete.
            Hopes and dreams don't get results.

            • jasswolf on 07/03/2025 - 16:36
              -2

              @virtual81:

              Everything you've said is talking about unproven future tech.

              You immediately lost me here, because path tracing is here and now, as are DLSS 4 and overclocking tools. Where there isn't stuff like NRC or RTX mega geometry, there's DLSS RR & SR in transformer mode, there's easy to research settings toggles to alleviate VRAM issues with little to no visual quality dro that is again smoothed over by the aforementioned technologies.

              Here. Now. 9070XT is the best option.

              I think this is a viewpoint that only works out well outside of RT - whether it be from an image quality standpoint or both image quality and performance - and only when upscaling is not available. I think in 12 months this viewpoint is likely to look silly within AAA graphics.

              On my 4K monitor it has a 20% gap to close before it approaches the 9070XT, and the 9070XT overclocking hasn't been tested yet, though i do suspect it has little margin given how far it seems to be pushed factory.

              At no point have I suggested otherwise for non-RT without some tweaks or upscaling, but I would call RDNA 4 as being on a fairly low rung for 4K performance in today's games.

              If the 5070Ti was in stock and not much more expensive it might be worth a look.

              Legitimate chip supply issues have delayed AMD's launch as well as NVIDIA's supply, give it 3-5 weeks and you should have what you're asking for.

              • virtual81 on 07/03/2025 - 17:26
                +2

                @jasswolf:

                because path tracing is here and now

                Well it can't be that good then if the 9070XT is holding ground against the 5070

                I think this is a viewpoint that only works out well outside of RT

                Yes, outside of RT the 9070XT is >20% ahead… why wouldnt one factor this in when it make up the overwhelming majority of use cases?

                I think in 12 months this viewpoint is likely to look silly within AAA graphics

                I'm prepared to be shown wrong, but i doubt it will be that big a deal.
                Again, had Nvidia offered stock and sensible pricing on a 5070Ti then maybe things would be different.
                But I'm not blowing more than AUD $1500 on a GPU.

                You reall think in game tech and drivers alone Nvidia will have the 5070 12GB close the 20% gap???
                Knowing Nvidia i highly doubt it… they'll make you buy a 60xx instead.
                If you think the 5070 is going to make >20% gains just in software tweaks in 12 months… all i can do i award your optimism, but i can't share it.

                I would call RDNA 4 as being on a fairly low rung for 4K performance in today's games.

                I'd say the same for the 5070
                Gaming isn't all i do, and I'm not one to take out finance to purchase a GPU i can't afford to drive my display.
                I'll play medium setting with up scaling and will do it gladly.

                give it 3-5 weeks and you should have what you're asking for.

                I'll be actually making a note in my calendar for this, seriously, @4 and 8 weeks.
                Lets see how this ages.
                A 5070Ti for under AUD$1200… jeez… even at $1300 would be interesting.
                I'll be prepared to eat my words if Nvidia can get within AUD$200 of the AUD$1139 of this post.

                Here are the facts…
                4K, AUD$1200 max budget

                1) 9700XT 16GB fair chance of availability, come within 2%RT and beats by 20% raster a 5070 for the same money.
                Realistically i'm not going to buy a significantly slower car for the same money - rules out 5070

                2) 5070Ti, trades blows with 9700XT… in raster it's 1% faster on average, in RT it's a significant 34%
                At $1,700 it's just too rich for my blood.. and even of the prices drop it has to come down by $500 to fit my budget… That's not going to happen.

                So with the 5070Ti excluded, we're left with 5070 vs 9700XT
                Why would i buy a card that is slower by 20%
                Say it over clocks and gains 10%… still doesn't close the gap and the 9070XT will have some headroom in it anyway.
                RT… virtually irrelevant, ill look again next gen.
                Frame gen.. I'm actually open minded, but not prepared to use it on competitive titles. Could be great in 3 years when i update again and want to solo play some cool new RT title.

                I'm not blind… i see a feature gap opening up with RT + DLSS, but it's not enough to sway me to stick with Nvidia at this time.

                To be clear, all GPU's I've had since 2014 have been Nvidia, so be under no illusion, i am NOT an AMD fanboy.
                Nvidia has mildly burned me with the 3070 only having 8GB VRAM.
                Shame on them, but shame on me if i let them do it again.

    • drprox on 07/03/2025 - 19:25

      Enjoying the one eyed NVIDIA guys dealing with this!

  • jonomatic on 06/03/2025 - 22:19
    +3

    Good price for an in stock 5070ti competitor

  • spoonmugen on 06/03/2025 - 22:21

    whats the msrp for the 9070? looking at something thats still good for under 800ish~

    • vid_ghost on 06/03/2025 - 22:27
      +10

      My guess is that the 9070 will go for $1000

      These cards are overpriced for the 7700XT and 7800XT replacements its crazy overpriced.
      AMD said they wanted to compete in the mid range.

      When did mid range become $1000 - 1200 ?

      Will the RX9060XT come out at $600-$750 now?

      • Pacify on 06/03/2025 - 22:40
        +13

        When did mid range become $1000 - 1200 ?

        In 2024/2025, unfortunately.

      • Kevin Bacon on 06/03/2025 - 23:07
        +2

        Since the "affordable" home consoles (PS5/PS5 Pro) are priced at 700-1200 AUD, that is the "mainstream gaming" price point.

      • nikoris on 06/03/2025 - 23:43
        +1

        When did mid range become $1000 - 1200 ?

        I mean, it did.

    • gromit on 06/03/2025 - 22:27
      +9

      Would expect just over $1000, the 9070 makes about as much sense as the 5070, both are DOA.

    • Hiphopopotamus on 06/03/2025 - 22:40
      +2

      Google says $1049 for the PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 Reaper 16GB.

      • abowen on 06/03/2025 - 23:40
        +1

        I'm getting $1139 right now

        Maybe they snuck in a little bump when realised what other AIB's were going for

        • Hiphopopotamus on 06/03/2025 - 23:44

          $1139 is the XT. GPU naming is poop.

          • abowen on 06/03/2025 - 23:53

            @Hiphopopotamus: My bad, it's late at night.

            Those 9070's would be worth it if they were $999 or lower. They're about 15% slower, so should be 15% cheaper in my eyes

            Temperature, power consumption, noise would be fantastic for a SFF build

    • [Deactivated] on 06/03/2025 - 22:45
      +1

      A secondhand 3080

  • nikoris on 06/03/2025 - 22:23
    +2

    i will sell my XSX and my 4060 and will get this one. And i'm set for 5 years

  • Dodo1203 on 06/03/2025 - 22:23
    -4

    MSRP is not supposed to be 950$ aud?

    • gromit on 06/03/2025 - 22:26
      +14

      That is USA price before tax. So about an extra $80 on top. Sadly that is pretty good for aus pricing.

      • Antikythera on 07/03/2025 - 02:14
        -1

        600 USD is the global price.

        actual US price has tariffs and state taxes. the new tariffs being the most significant.
        for example current cheapest 9070XT at B&H Photo Video $899.99 USD
        https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1872785-REG/gigabyte_…
        which equates to $1416 AUD

        • Nom on 07/03/2025 - 08:45
          +1

          Photo Video $899.99 USD
          which equates to $1416 AUD

          No, we pay GST in Australia.

          An $899 USD price converts to $1416 plus 10% GST which gives a total of $1557.

        • gromit on 07/03/2025 - 16:25
          +1

          US RRP does not include taxes as they differ state to state or even city to city.

    • HaydosK on 06/03/2025 - 22:26
      +5

      No?

  • ItsMeAgro on 06/03/2025 - 22:23
    +11

    $1139 is still a little bit more than currency conversion plus GST.

    They just couldn't not have some Australia Tax. Makes it less great value than I'd hoped.

    Still, not like NVIDIA has anything this powerful in stock in this price range. Cheapest 5070 ti is $1700 AUD right now: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=589&sort=…

    Cheapest 5070 is "only" $1165, but it's at least 15% slower in games. Usually more: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=590&sort=…

    So if the rumours of decent stock are true, and we can actually buy one, I guess it's a "bargain" compared to the terrible 5000 series and everything else around.

    Hopefully it actually gets a bit cheaper after launch, and hopefully it's a sign that the rest of AMD's 9000 series line up has good price/performance too.

    • Kazusa on 06/03/2025 - 22:27
      +1

      ”the Reaper will be the AU RRP model which is higher than we were hoping, but still great value. There is a significant jump up for the next models up but overall the Reaper and Hellhound remain the best value picks and are our highest stock offerings.

      Locally distributed brands such as ASUS, Gigabyte, Sapphire, will be higher again.”
      msrp bros better hop on this one lol

    • HaydosK on 06/03/2025 - 22:28

      Even at Australia MSRP of $1509 this is still better value. It's like 25% off

    • ReaperX22 on 06/03/2025 - 22:36

      Yeah that's not how conversion works unfortunately..

      It's logistics too, supply and demand.

      Australias populace is tiny compared to most countries, especially for the size. Demand isn't high so orders are in hundreds, rather than many thousands. Our minimum wage is also significantly higher than the US.

      All plays a factor.. So I honestly just tend to assume double pricing for anything usd vs aud in the tech world.

      In this case, that's fairly close to accurate!

      • cnut on 06/03/2025 - 22:44
        +2

        And warranty. They don’t have economy of scale compared to overseas.

      • [Deactivated] on 07/03/2025 - 00:53
        -1

        No that's exactly how it works

        PCCG did a straight USD + 10% GST conversion to AUD for the Arc B580 LE launch plus free delivery

        MSRP 9070 XT's are max $1050 AUD so this is just PCCG pocketing an extra $100 with a desperate gamer tax + no free delivery

        • thearbiter117 on 07/03/2025 - 01:08
          +1

          I've only been into PC gaming for like 10 or so years.
          But USD to AUD + 10% tax + 10ish% random cost has been a fantastic guide to the price for all PC parts that entire time. This holds true here.
          Always see someone surprised on every single new release like you even though its exactly the same as it has always been. If you commented on a deal of the Arc B580 with your surprise of no random 10% that would have made a lot more sense.

          • [Deactivated] on 07/03/2025 - 09:22

            @thearbiter117:

            Always see someone surprised on every single new release like you even though its exactly the same as it has always been.

            Who said there was a surprise?

            It's not a "random cost" - for this specific deal, PCCG are milking an extra $100 on a card they self-distribute because they're scalping desperate gamers

            It's a free market so desperate gamers can burn their money however they want, but this remains a garbage OzAboveRRP deal

    • jeppetto367 on 07/03/2025 - 08:24

      If these are from Taiwan there is 5% duty to Australia too, no idea why people never mention this. If from China its most likely duty free.

  • solacens on 06/03/2025 - 22:24
    +1

    Slightly better than my 7900 XT in all aspect I think.

  • alvian on 06/03/2025 - 22:26

    Where does the price come from?

    • Kazusa on 06/03/2025 - 22:28
      +1

      If you google powercolor 9070 xt reaper pc case gear the price comes up, the price has already been registered by pc case gear to google search, happened with 50 series too

  • deadboom on 06/03/2025 - 22:27

    Do we have good benchmarks for this yet? Is it better than a 4070ti super?

      • goodwillN1 on 06/03/2025 - 23:01
        +6

        Are you comparing with an overclocked 9070XT though?

        • jasswolf on 06/03/2025 - 23:18
          -3

          Yes, where performance is about 7% higher than stock. The 5070 is the better performer for RT unless you're hitting VRAM issues at 4K.

          100 W more power for the 9070 XT, and it won't age well with modern graphics. It's a harder sell than people seem to realise.

          • goodwillN1 on 06/03/2025 - 23:21
            +6

            @jasswolf: So you cherry pick a few cases to prove 5070 is better even though in general it is worse?

            • jasswolf on 06/03/2025 - 23:22
              -2

              @goodwillN1: A few cases??? Every architecture has games where it scores a win, but no.

              https://videocardz.com/198465/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-rdna4-gr…

              Pick a review, I'll examine this with you now.

              • goodwillN1 on 06/03/2025 - 23:39

                @jasswolf: I appreciate you bring data into this. I am not trying to shut you down by default. One of thr more extensive ones for RT was Gamer's Nexus. Can you pick the ones for me where the 5070 leads in more than just 2 or 3 RT outliers?

                • jasswolf on 06/03/2025 - 23:49
                  -2

                  @goodwillN1: I'm more concerned with heavy RT and path tracing loads, as I see that as where we're rapidly heading. Yes it can come across like the new Hairworks, but it's a stark difference visually compared to where RDNA 4 excels.

                  Then you can turn on a better denoiser, and a better upscaler. At 1440p it's also arguably worth comparing the 5070 with DLSS 4 Balanced or Performance against the 9070 XT with FSR 4 Quality.

                  I know it feels like I'm doing backflips to score points, but when the difference is some settings toggles that people will learn after a few hours, the current content cycle around this battle seems a bit wild. It may even rapidly evolve to the NVIDIA app's recommendations being very well tuned, and you just hit one button.

                  But yeah when it's native vs native, especially if you have 4K use cases in modern AAA titles and limited or no RT, the 9070 XT has its advantages. It's a closer battle than normal, and it's going to quickly deliver better prices for all of us.

                  • goodwillN1 on 07/03/2025 - 00:06
                    +6

                    @jasswolf: It is not really a close battle in raster. 5070 is quite a bit behind. I do agree 5070 is more consistent in RT but I think the tests have proven 5070 simply does not have the oomph for RT (huge gap vs 5070 Ti) plus it is missing the VRAM for real heavy RT use. So betting on heavy RT with 5070 is shooting yourself in the foot.
                    I don't think we are heading towards heavy RT as most cards can't handle it. Including NVidia's. We are heading towards mandatory RT though, as it is the lazy choice for Devs. But they have to limit it's application. So no prevalent path tracing anytime soon.

                    As forvtge DLSS vs FSR claims. I was happy with DLSS 3 quality so if FSR4 is between DLSS 3 and 4 then it is kinda OK. I am a hevy NO for MFG though. But those are personal vhoices, just like all this fake pixel stuff. Neither of them is perfect so it is up to you how much noise you can tolerate. If DLSS3/FSR4 is not enough for you quality wise then fair enough, can't argue with that. Is it worth the premium and loss in FPS over the raw power of 9070XT though?

                    • jasswolf on 07/03/2025 - 00:41
                      -1

                      @goodwillN1:

                      It is not really a close battle in raster. 5070 is quite a bit behind.

                      Keep in mind we're all estimating in terms of things like Firestrike benchmarks, so the real world differences in a game might be different SKU to SKU, architecture to architecture. Definitely want to see more data on this. Frustratingly NVIDIA seems to have capped memory overclocks to peak at 34 Gbps for the xx70 cards.

                      plus it is missing the VRAM for real heavy RT use

                      At 1440p? Only edge cases, and all of the RTX kit additions are built around driving that down, often quite dramatically. DLSS 4 also drops its VRAM requirements, as does picking Balanced or Performance instead of Quality.

                      I don't think we are heading towards heavy RT as most cards can't handle it. Including NVidia's. We are heading towards mandatory RT though, as it is the lazy choice for Devs. But they have to limit it's application. So no prevalent path tracing anytime soon.

                      Path tracing is a pretty easy workload for the devs to add in the scheme of things, and in fact helps them bake/optimise other lighting techniques better.

                      UE5 alone is reason enough to consider it these days.

                      I am a hevy NO for MFG though.

                      I like it for cinematic applications: you get to 70-80 FPS, and now you're 240 FPS when you don't need the reduced input latency. Over time though, it will be replaced with frame extrapolation techniques as hardware climbs in performance, but that's the realm of Reflex 2 for now.

                      • goodwillN1 on 07/03/2025 - 01:14
                        +1

                        @jasswolf:

                        Keep in mind we're all estimating in terms of things like Firestrike benchmarks, so the real world differences in a game might be different SKU to SKU, architecture to architecture. Definitely want to see more data on this. Frustratingly NVIDIA seems to have capped memory overclocks to peak at 34 Gbps for the xx70 cards.

                        I disagree here. As you yourself have pointed out, there are plenty of real game reviews of various models. The spread is not small but they all conclude the same thing towards 5070. I don't think there is a model of 5070 that goes significantly better than the FE.

                        At 1440p? Only edge cases, and all of the RTX kit additions are built around driving that down, often quite dramatically. DLSS 4 also drops its VRAM requirements, as does picking Balanced or Performance instead of Quality.

                        Fair enough, the RAM is indeed less limiting there and it might still be usable. Where is the data for DLSS4 lowering RAM need at same setup over let's say DLSS3 (might have missed it)

                        Path tracing is a pretty easy workload for the devs to add in the scheme of things, and in fact helps them bake/optimise other lighting techniques better.
                        UE5 alone is reason enough to consider it these days.

                        Yes, easier to implement. I can see how devs choose the easy way out but the gaming community is getting a little sick of the lack of optimizations. This can go either way. But I stand by my point that these card (all of them below 4090) do not have enough oomph for a heavy application of this level of RT.

                        I like it for cinematic applications: you get to 70-80 FPS, and now you're 240 FPS when you don't need the reduced input latency. Over time though, it will be replaced with frame extrapolation techniques as hardware climbs in performance, but that's the realm of Reflex 2 for now.

                        Yeah, but with 5070 you will not reach those number in a lot of cases. So while it has some merrit in high FPS scenarions, this is not the type of card to achieve them. Sure, there will be less demanding games but this goes directly against what you pointed out above when it comes to RT.

                        • jasswolf on 07/03/2025 - 01:36
                          -2

                          @goodwillN1:

                          I disagree here. As you yourself have pointed out, there are plenty of real game reviews of various models. The spread is not small but they all conclude the same thing towards 5070. I don't think there is a model of 5070 that goes significantly better than the FE.

                          I meant properly dialled OC vs OC, stock vs stock is of course well documented.

                          Fair enough, the RAM is indeed less limiting there and it might still be usable. Where is the data for DLSS4 lowering RAM need at same setup over let's say DLSS3 (might have missed it)

                          In the launch marketing and in further testing. RTX Kit also helps with this going forward.

                          Yes, easier to implement. I can see how devs choose the easy way out but the gaming community is getting a little sick of the lack of optimizations. This can go either way. But I stand by my point that these card (all of them below 4090) do not have enough oomph for a heavy application of this level of RT.

                          Lack of optimisation is a stretch, and there's currently a lot of news site clicks and grifting being done about 'smeary' graphics, but you're seeing the consequences of trying to drive lighting and particle fidelity instead of cheap hacks. AI will fill in the gaps, and DLSS 4 is the first step there.

                          Yeah, but with 5070 you will not reach those number in a lot of cases. So while it has some merrit in high FPS scenarions, this is not the type of card to achieve them. Sure, there will be less demanding games but this goes directly against what you pointed out above when it comes to RT.

                          If they can do it in Cyberpunk today, in Indiana Jones soon, in UE5, then they're golden. Neural Radiance Cache will help round it out, and the other related RTX Kit features provide either speedups or unlock new fidelity levels.

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