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2023 Zero S & DS 7.2 $9,995 Ride Away @ Zero Motorcycles

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Woah… Some more cheap motorcycles for the masses… This time an EV motorcycle just to change it up.

Was reading around in a Zero Motorcycle Fartbook group and saw that one of the (very few) Aussies in there has just bought a brand new (old stock) 2023 Zero S 7.2 for under $10k ride away. Thought it was worth a post, as I bought mine last year for $13,200 (ooof) and thought that was a steal (having been marked down from their RRP price and it was more inline with what I would pay for a similar spec ICE bike.)

The "+" or "14.4kWh" versions are also on sale. These were up over $20k+ but have now been dropped to $17k ride away. A good discount, but still I feel a bit too pricey

For the newer range of bikes, the 2024 updated S (what used to be the SR/F) has also had a price cut from mid/upper $35~k bracket down to $28k ride away as well as the 2024 DS, down from about $40k to $30k Ride Away.

NOTE: At this point in time, for the S and DS 7.2, they WERE LAMS approved, but that may have changed. You would need to check your state's LAMS register on whether these bikes are still suitable for learner riders…


Few "real world" specs on the bike from my experience (I have the '23 Zero S 7.2);

Will easily do over 100km around town and in urban riding.
Will do about 60km if you ride it at open road speeds (80~100km/h)
Will top out at around 140km/h.
Gets from 0~60 VERY quickly (A LOT of torque down low). From 0 to 100 is also very quick
Has 2 storage boxes that hold a 2 litre bottle of milk and 2 loaves of bread and some some other stuff.
No noise, doesn't wake the neighbours at 5am on your way to work.
Charges from a regular 10a 240v outlet. (Can make/buy an adaptor to charge from public AC chargers)
Takes about 4 hours to charge from empty (Can charge it while you sleep/work)

What this bike isnt;

A wheelie machine. (That's what a Yamaha/Suzuki is for)
A long distance touring motorcycle. (That's what a Honda is for)
A noise maker. (That's what a Ducati is for)
A replacement for Rogaine or Viagra. (That's what a Harley is for)
A piece of poser jewlery (That's what BMW is for)

What this bike is good at, is "commuting". It is about the same price as most other commuter bikes in this bracket and providing you dont live more than 30km on a highway road tip to work, this could be a great alternative to a petrol bike of the same price because it cost about $1 to fill on off peak and there are no oil changes, coolant changes, spark plugs, valve adjustments, dont need to buy a loud muffler, you just throw a leg over it and ride.

You can find your local Zero dealer via this link (mostly Peter Stevens outlets, so often sold alongside Harley and Triumph)

InB4: Complaints about range and charging times and how you wouldn't buy one because it doesn't make enough noise and that "LoUd PiPeZ SaVe LiVeZ!11" or something about the price needing to be $3,500.

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        • +2

          No, the easiest & safest way is to avoid getting in a situation where your only option is to ride in an unsafe manner. Relying on speed to "squeeze through a tight gap" because you haven't positioned yourself in the correct lane to make a turn is downright braindead. As above, that's a great way to end up badly hurt or unalived.

    • Forget top speed as a measure. Electric motors are 100% torque at zero revs so acceleration off the lights is far faster than any equivalent power ICE engine. Its 0-60k time is likely to beat any 500cc road bike.

  • +2

    Thanks for the insights OP. With the lower end torque, how does slow riding go? The range does concern me a little. My commute is about a 50km round trip, with about half each being highway and urban riding. Do you think that would be pushing it?

    • Would you be okay charging daily?

    • +7

      how does slow riding go?

      Differently. It's weird to ride at low speeds because there is no "clutch" to feather. The throttle is very responsive though, so I usually just drag the rear brake in lieu of no clutch to feather. In traffic, this thing is SUPER easy to ride, even at very low speeds.

      The range does concern me a little.

      All I can say is that this is a niche motorcycle. If you want an all purpose, ride to work on monday, ride to ridgeline on Sundays, you're gonna have a bad time. but I find, I work 10km from home now and most of that is on 80km/h roads, so it's perfect for that. Charge it every 2 days and it's always ready and full the next morning. $0.08/kWh and it's full for about $0.60.

      My commute is about a 50km round trip, with about half each being highway and urban riding. Do you think that would be pushing it?

      Possibly. 25k each way with a mix of riding… I would give it a go. Can you top it up at work? It plugs into a regular 10a power point and only pulls about 6~8amps while charging. You would only need to top it off, so an hour or 2 on a wall socket will give you more than enough for a round trip. I sometimes have to do a parts delivery about 30km away, so I ride there, plug it in for an hour while I chat and get some lunch and I have more than enough for the 30km ride home, and that would be on almost all 90km/h roads…

  • +56

    +1 for:

    What this bike isnt;

    A wheelie machine. (That's what a Yamaha/Suzuki is for)
    A long distance touring motorcycle. (That's what a Honda is for)
    A noise maker. (That's what a Ducati is for)
    A replacement for Rogaine or Viagra. (That's what a Harley is for)
    A piece of poser jewlery (That's what BMW is for)

    • +4

      I'll give +5 if i can…

    • +1

      Gotta get myself on the Monday "Rolts Reviews" roundup somehow… :D

    • +2

      where does Kawasaki land in your list? asking for a friend…

      • +1

        Looks to the left for a response from Bailiff Byrd.

        • Did you know that guy was getting paid $1M a year for standing their looking grumpy? The highest paid Bailiff in the world…

      • I mentioned the comparison from the Kwaka E-1 and the Zero S 7.2 here

        Only thing I forgot to add was the price…

        Kwaka E-1 is $11,600 ride away… So the Zero is more powerful, has a larger battery and costs almost $2,000 less. This is a no-brainer. The Zero wins, hands down.

  • Go to Werribee and on the way the battery finishes

    • +25

      Or don't and use it for it's intended purpose.

      • Too costly

      • Ah yes, purchase a motorbike to ride around the block.

        • +4

          Or to commute, which is probably what it's designed for.

            • +7

              @Maths Debater: Who said it couldn't? What is with ICE neanderthals? I get it, you're not the target audience for this product, frankly, neither am I, as I want to ride my V-Twin cruiser on the weekends and probably for longer distances. Appreciate it for what it is.

    • +8

      Go to Werribee

      There's your first problem…

    • -2

      At least no one will steal it 😆

      • -4

        Lolz. But will catch fire

  • +18

    OzBargain please consider double upvotes for post descriptions like this 👌🏻🤣

    • +6

      And double downvotes for JV's comments.

    • -1

      It should be surprising that buffoons neg a comment like this… but it isn't.
      A small vehicle travelling at speed that doesn't make sound = danger.
      I can't read if your comment was sarcastic or straight… I know we've crossed words before but who knows….maybe we agree on this.
      I reckon a number of potential accidents in my youth didn't happen because drivers heard my bike.
      I reckon I'm alive because a farmer crossing the crest of a country road on his tractor towing a large implement behind him… stopped because he heard the noise of my very loud bike, when I was travelling rather fast duelling …. quite a few years ago
      Fortunately when he stopped he left half the road for us to get past.

      • +14

        You don't like EV bikes because you have safety concerns, Maths Debater doesn't because they have masculinity issues.

          • +8

            @Maths Debater: My last bike was a ZX12R Ninja.

            That's a man's bike not a 600cc which is a boy racer's bike

            …….or maybe bikes have nothing to do with being a man

            • -6

              @slipperypete: How does it feel getting smoked by 600s in the twisties? I didn't buy a motorbike for traffic light GP or to pickup groceries, I lean into corners.

            • +1

              @slipperypete: Who had the ZX12R?
              Beautiful bike , Quite the jump from a 9 or a leap from the 6 .
              Apparently the 6’s are a fun bike , and probably why the’re not on the learners approved list.

              • @beach bum: yeah, it was as lovely bike. I had just moved back from Europe where I had a Honda Blackbird.
                Unfortunately, I found riding fast was so restrictive over here compared to Europe that it just wasn't as much fun.
                I moved overseas again 10 months later and sold it. So much torque and 160 kmh in second gear was crazy. It made the Blackbird feel like a cruiser in comparison. The irony is that 20 years later I may be buying a Blackbird again very soon!

                • +1

                  @slipperypete: Of coarse you need eyes in the back of your head over here and just accept that a ticket a year is the price of doing business.
                  Though I’m still spewing I sold my Ninja recently , was an 04 ZX12R in Blue that I’d modified to squeeze some extra horses from ,
                  but it was nearly as thirsty as my landcruiser .
                  Maybe the big CBR is a better choice for cruising along enjoying the trip,
                  You probably get twice the distance on a tank of gas

                  • @beach bum:

                    was an 04 ZX12R

                    same as mine. Got it brand new in Black. Way more exciting than the Blackbird, but I'm 58 now and drive up Alpine winding roads to work most days. I no longer have the skills or confidence for a bike like the ZX12

              • @beach bum:

                Apparently the 6’s are a fun bike

                I think they're great. I have absolutely nothing against them, I've had a couple of 600 sports machines. My point above was this guy thinks having a fast bike makes him a man. I like bikes because I like bikes, not because of the image

          • +7

            @Maths Debater:

            I have a 2019 ZX6R (aka a real man's bike)

            600cc? Real man's bike? Wont your mum let you have a 1000cc? I've ridden scooters with bigger engines in them…

            • -7

              @pegaxs: At least mine wasn't afraid of the noise it makes. Ok, I get it, you want to look cool and socially acceptable. Who knows, perhaps one day you might even find an intimate partner with all the attention you're getting. Hells Angels must be terrified of you.

          • +19

            @Maths Debater:

            and would rather have masculinity issues than to be seen and laughed at on this pos.

            'Real men' aren't concerned with how they are perceived/seen by others.

            • +1

              @topherboi: An important life lesson. But in all honesty, I am still wondering why soccer moms love (fake) SUVs?

          • +3

            @Maths Debater:

            I have a 2019 ZX6R (aka a real man's bike) and would rather have masculinity issues than to be seen and laughed at on this pos.

            But you'll be laughed at even more for your masculinity issues.

        • +4

          Well… I didn't say I didn't like them, but it does make them less safe.
          I actually wouldn't mind one, though off road would be better for my purposes.
          Now a wise person can go both ways to solve their masculinity issues… Have a bike for fanging at dangerous speeds, a bike for bang banging around at modest speeds feeling the shake of a big piston, and maybe even a bike for bang pop farting around on so old timers talk in the car park and say I had one of them after the war….
          Maybe we could take a collection for the maths chap to buy a second bike…. one that doesn't sound like a 4 rats being tortured with a taser on their genitals….. ahem

        • -2

          Maths Debater doesn't because they have masculinity issues.

          Did you just assume their gender??? 😲

          • +2

            @jv: They said they have a real mans bike, did it confuse you?

        • +3

          I beat he cooks all his food over a wood fire like a real man.

      • +3

        Burn this junk.

        prob the reason for negs

        My 2 crashes had nothing to do with sound. Both on single cylinder 650cc thumpers

        • +4

          Don't think anyone reckons that a loud exhaust gives you trumpian immunity… but it does help other road users become aware of your presence…
          My 2 major events didn't have anything to do with sound…. but sound was one of the factors that kept the number down to 2.
          If your last bike was an 1100, I'm guessing the two thumper prangs weren't on mr mahindra's finest beezers…
          So I'm guessing enduros like the big suzuki or one of those rotax thingeys the OP unkindly described as: "A piece of poser jewlery (That's what BMW is for)"

          • +1

            @rooster7777:

            So I'm guessing enduros like the big suzuki

            spot on, you obviously know your bikes

            I'm certainly not disagreeing with you about noise, I'm sure I may have had a few other encounters that never registered because of the noise.

    • +1

      These days i see the majority of vehicle windows up and im assuming radio/spotify/podcast playing. No ones paying attention to much these days that a muffler will make a significant difference.
      A motorcyclists greastest asset is their brain. Use that to keep yourself safe and you will make it home.

    • +1

      I've found it's quite pleasant to only hear the wind at 80kmph on an EV bike. It'd be nicer if I had enough range to reach a country road.

  • +2

    Idk how safe it would be, feel like having the exhaust sound makes other drivers aware of you, a silent electric bike seems risky especially with those crazy city drivers.

    • +1

      You could probably mod one on if that's what you want? For cars I know that over like 25-35km/h the tyre noise takes over so engine noise becomes irrelevant, but with bikes it's probably a bit different.

    • Just one more risk to add when making the decision to ride a bike or not.

    • Here you go, champ, slap one of these on if you need those LoUd PiPeZ!1!

      • Gold!

      • +1

        Why are you so butthurt about people being proactive towards their own safety?

        • -4

          Because they want to justify their cereal box motorbike purchase. "GLoBaL wArMiNg BrO", "PrOtEcT MoThEr NaTuRe" "SaVe ThE pLaNeT". Maybe you just can't afford petrol.

    • I don't think cars really hear quiet ICE bikes anyway. Especially when people have music blasting in their car.

  • +4

    Sounds cool but I'm a little surprised the range is THAT low - would have guessed 120-150 on freeways but I guess that isn't the use case?

    • +5

      EVs have never been good for high speed. Thats what ICEs are good for. They excel at low speed, stop start and high torque applications.

    • I'm a little surprised the range is THAT low

      I'm assuming that this e-motorbike only has a single gear ratio, like most electric cars. If your ICE bike had only a single gear ratio, you'd have an even lower range.

      There is a reason why electric motors don't have a higher top speed. If you want maximum low-end torque, you need the coils in the motor to generate a very strong magnetic field. Magnetic field is proportional to the number of "turns" in the coil squared, so you (generally) want as many turns as possible. But that increases the inductance of the coils, and inductance causes a limiting effect: the higher the motor's speed, the more it "resists" you pushing power into it. So the faster it runs, the lower the power you can put into it.

      If you add a conventional multi-ratio gearbox to an e-vehicle, you can keep the motor at a low speed even when the vehicle is travelling fast, allowing much faster speed. Formula E electric racing cars use a 5-speed gearbox, and achieve top speeds of 225kph. They could go faster, but Formula E rules cap the top speed at 225kph.

      • whale oil beef hooked
        If your explanation is accurate, then it would seem that adding at least a 2 speed gearing to all road EVs would bring significant benefits for low cost.
        CV EV anyone?

        • +1

          There is indeed a benefit, and some EVs already have gearboxes. Here's an article about it, from 2023:
          https://www.whichcar.com.au/advice/zf-2-speed-ev-transmissio…

          There may also be another way, without any physical gears. The speed of an electric motor also depends on the number of "poles" (separate coils) the motor has, e.g. an 8-pole motor will run at half the speed of a 4-pole motor. I recall reading about someone trying to put two motors on the same shaft, one having more poles than the other. This lets you use the motor with fewer poles for high speed, and the one with more poles for low speed, and just switch between them with electronics.

          However I haven't heard any more on this approach. I suspect adding a gearbox is cheaper or simpler or lighter or smaller than adding a second motor.

  • I read a review of another cheap EV motorcycle. The Fonz I think it was. Something like that. It sounded pretty good, if you are light. Top speed hugely dependent on rider weight. Is this one like that?

      • It was the Arthur 7 Performance. It has only 9.1 kWh.

    • +4

      Ironically, I own one of them as well… top speed around 80km/h on my model (Arthur 2 Plus) and gets around 40 to 60km from a charge (depends on how/where I ride it)

      The Fonz is 100% an inner city urban bike. Top speed is low~ish and range isnt great. I used it to ride to work that was 4km from my house and it basically cost me nothing to run except rego and insurance. I did about 3,000km on it and either charged it at work or at home on solar and spent $0 going that distance.

      I would not compare that bike to the Zero S. The Zero S is an urban and extra urban commuter, or basically a short range, full motorcycle. The Fonz Arthur is a low speed, inner city commuter only.

  • +2

    Appreciate the detailed description OP.

  • I reckon this bike is comparable to 300-400cc bikes, with similar horsepower and weight. 141kg is very manageable, I thought electric bikes would be significantly heavier due to the battery pack.

    • My 48v 100 AH (5 KWh) lithium batteries are 45kg, so I'd expect the battery pack in this might weigh around 65kg if similar tech, or perhaps lighter if weight was a design factor.
      I just googled looking for info, and found an offroad ebike called starg varg with a 6KWh battery weighing 32Kg, and a 60KW motor weighing 9 kg.
      ICE engines of say 250-400cc seem to go from about 35kg up, but then if you add fuel weight, and possibly coolant… there's probably not much difference.

  • +4

    As a motorbike rider I can't even begin to imagine how many near misses or actually get hit on a Ev motorbike, it's all ready dangerous enough with a loud exhaust, cars wouldn't see or hear you now

    • Agreed….

    • +2

      Both cars and motorbikes have a legal noise limit of 90db.

      So unless riders are illegally modifying them to be louder, why would being as loud as all the other cars (not very) be any safer?

      • +1

        Most cars are no where near the noise limit legally allowed so a motorcycle reaching 90dB will be louder than regular traffic. Also motorcycles have a reputation for not really caring about the legal noise limit

      • So has every harley ever seen/heard in the last 50 years had muffler modification?…. or is the noise tested at specific parameters that may not equal the loudness at full throttle?

    • +15

      As a car driver I can't hear you when my window is up. That's why I look carefully, but if you are relying on drivers hearing you, please be careful.

      • This…Assume people haven't and won't see or hear you. Ride expecting the dangers and you'll survive. Doesn't matter how visible or loud someone is, there are people who will still pull out on them.

    • +7

      it's all ready dangerous enough with a loud exhaust,

      JCF, this "LoUd PiPeZ sAvEs LiVeZ" just wont die… It loud pipes saves ANYlives, all motorcycles would be required ot have them fitted from factory. Weirdly enough, they are not… Ever wonder why? It's because it has been proved over an over again that they don't "save lives".

      Loud pipes are just dog whistles for other morons with loud pipes to look and say "Sick bike, bro!!"

      • -3

        How come vehicles have horns fitted? It's not like loud noise attracts attention, according to you anyway.

        • +1

          Mind boggles how anyone can neg something as obvious as this…

          • +1

            @rooster7777: Or just shout mindlessly about how you're triggered by anything not stock exhaust and then ignore the replies.

      • +1

        "all motorcycles would be required ot have them fitted from factory. Weirdly enough, they are not… Ever wonder why?"

        its because of the ADR and Noise regulations matey…..I can proved that

      • For what reason do you require the Jamaica Constabulary Force?

    • Maybe we should have kept steam trains to prevent level crossing accidents. But now trains use their horns when approaching, maybe the quieter the motorbike the more you should use the horn.

    • Its your brain that keeps you alive. Not a loud noise that you hope engages the brain of those around you.

    • +1

      Being visible and riding defensively will probably save you before a loud exhaust.

      My bikes are loud but they won't stop someone pulling out in front from an intersecting road or dozily wandering into the lane I am in.

      The one thing I would be cautious of is the quick takeoff these electric bikes can have, booting it on the green light and having someone running the red as folk seem to do more of nowadays. Make sure your left and right are clear cover your brake just in case and pin it!

      • Re intersections, this applies to everyone. You should not go through an intersection without checking for other traffic on a collision course with you. I had a vehicle completely miss the red light (it happens often at this intersection), fortunately they did eventually stop and I slowed and was ready to stop. I'm especially careful on motorbike or bicycle, I do need to sharpen up when in the car though. I've also seen people blow through reds (early morning, no traffic, late for work I guess).

  • Noting how bad traffic is these days and the limit of patience for many drivers I reckon commuting is probably the worst kind of riding. I’ve done my fair share with plenty of near hits and at least I’m still kicking.

    Better off without or getting a nice bike that you ride with mates on a weekend. Oh and the rego costs are atrocious since I assume most people have a car as well!

  • how does this stack up against the new kawasaki E-1?

    • +2

      Wouldn't like to stack either….

    • +1

      Iirc the e1 is a terribly slim offering from Kawasaki.

    • +4

      Zero is a much better bike. It kills the E-1 and is cheaper to boot.

      Biggest benfit of the E-1 would be the fact you can remove the batteries and charge them inside your house?? (if you're into that kind of risk…)

      Model Zero S Kawasaki E-1
      Power: 34kW 9.0 kW
      Torque: 105Nm 40.5 Nm
      Bat V: 102v 52v
      Bat Wh: 7.2kWh 1.5Wh(x2)
      Top Speed: 160km/h 105km/h
      • +1

        very informative, thankyou

  • -6

    No noise

    Making it even easier for the cagers to hit you. (Semi) loud pipes save lives! You don't have to be running an obnoxiously loud exhaust, but just noisy enough to make people who are still half asleep during their commute realise you're approaching.

    • +1

      *yawn* Not how "LoUd PiPeZ" work, but thanks for your input.

      • How so then

        • +1

          Read the dozens of similar comments above yours, with responses

      • Your outlook on bike exhausts and noise is incredibly naive for someone that appears to know a lot about bikes. Did you commit to this argument and then can't get out of it?

        It's a bit less silly than saying brakes don't make riding safer. Brakes will never always save you, and noise will less often save you…. but both are factors, just like visibility, and experience factors like skills, awareness, and foreknowledge of potential dangers.

        It's like saying working out and avoiding blind spots of vehicles around you won't make you safer… only car drivers operating with due care will save you.
        It's quite understandable for you to say you're not aware of an incident where a bike being heard resulted in an accident not happening, but it's unforgivable for you to say being heard can never result in an accident being avoided.

        A petulant yawn not how loud pipes work marks you as immature and not having a genuine discussion…. but doing that as one who portrays themselves as an experienced bike rider marks your attitude as far more toxic, and dangerous when "passing knowledge" to less experienced riders.

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