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2023 Zero S & DS 7.2 $9,995 Ride Away @ Zero Motorcycles

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Woah… Some more cheap motorcycles for the masses… This time an EV motorcycle just to change it up.

Was reading around in a Zero Motorcycle Fartbook group and saw that one of the (very few) Aussies in there has just bought a brand new (old stock) 2023 Zero S 7.2 for under $10k ride away. Thought it was worth a post, as I bought mine last year for $13,200 (ooof) and thought that was a steal (having been marked down from their RRP price and it was more inline with what I would pay for a similar spec ICE bike.)

The "+" or "14.4kWh" versions are also on sale. These were up over $20k+ but have now been dropped to $17k ride away. A good discount, but still I feel a bit too pricey

For the newer range of bikes, the 2024 updated S (what used to be the SR/F) has also had a price cut from mid/upper $35~k bracket down to $28k ride away as well as the 2024 DS, down from about $40k to $30k Ride Away.

NOTE: At this point in time, for the S and DS 7.2, they WERE LAMS approved, but that may have changed. You would need to check your state's LAMS register on whether these bikes are still suitable for learner riders…


Few "real world" specs on the bike from my experience (I have the '23 Zero S 7.2);

Will easily do over 100km around town and in urban riding.
Will do about 60km if you ride it at open road speeds (80~100km/h)
Will top out at around 140km/h.
Gets from 0~60 VERY quickly (A LOT of torque down low). From 0 to 100 is also very quick
Has 2 storage boxes that hold a 2 litre bottle of milk and 2 loaves of bread and some some other stuff.
No noise, doesn't wake the neighbours at 5am on your way to work.
Charges from a regular 10a 240v outlet. (Can make/buy an adaptor to charge from public AC chargers)
Takes about 4 hours to charge from empty (Can charge it while you sleep/work)

What this bike isnt;

A wheelie machine. (That's what a Yamaha/Suzuki is for)
A long distance touring motorcycle. (That's what a Honda is for)
A noise maker. (That's what a Ducati is for)
A replacement for Rogaine or Viagra. (That's what a Harley is for)
A piece of poser jewlery (That's what BMW is for)

What this bike is good at, is "commuting". It is about the same price as most other commuter bikes in this bracket and providing you dont live more than 30km on a highway road tip to work, this could be a great alternative to a petrol bike of the same price because it cost about $1 to fill on off peak and there are no oil changes, coolant changes, spark plugs, valve adjustments, dont need to buy a loud muffler, you just throw a leg over it and ride.

You can find your local Zero dealer via this link (mostly Peter Stevens outlets, so often sold alongside Harley and Triumph)

InB4: Complaints about range and charging times and how you wouldn't buy one because it doesn't make enough noise and that "LoUd PiPeZ SaVe LiVeZ!11" or something about the price needing to be $3,500.

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  • So an Ebike? I can ride it on the footpath?

    • +3

      Sure can! Can you get a ticket for riding it on the footpath? Sure can!

  • +2

    Upvoting because I totally agree on your points for what this bike isn't for.

  • So this EV bikes dont have gears or gear shift? So its like automatic scooters.

    Looks decent for city commute.

    • Typically scooters have CV transmissions… this bike doesn't even have that. It is just direct drive.

  • +6

    If there is one thing I wouldn't invest in, it's an electric motorcycle company lol … Motorcyclists will be the absolute last to be dragged kicking and screaming into the electric vehicle era.

    Fuel costs are already super low for motorcycles and half the reason to ride one is the "feel", which you aren't going to get with this.

    The economy market is already wrapped up with $3000 brand new 250cc bikes that use 10L or fuel per week for commuting. This is just a pointless product imo.

    • -1

      Exactly right. Everything about a motorbike is already affordable so why do we need EV? I would rather buy a brand new CBR500R. You'll beat the majority of cars on the road and don't need to be worry about running out of…battery 😂

    • +5

      Totally agree. 10k for a commuter bike is insane. Second hand commuter bikes are already cheap as chips to buy and run. It will take a long time to recoup the 7k difference in purchase cost through savings in running costs. Insurance is likely to be higher for this also.

      Back in the day, i paid 12k for a Ninja ZX-10R ( 2 year old example at the time) lol. 10k for this…

    • +5

      i think you will find the average motorcyclists is changing.

      When i grew up riding most motorcyclists were somewhat rev-heads or "enthusiast", they all enjoyed long rides on the weekend, loved the sound of the engine, loved working on their bikes etc.

      Nowadays the new generation of motorcyclists are coming in, many more people getting on motorcycles simply for commuting to and from work at minimal fuss. Many of those don't really care about range anxiety as their just going to work, they would prioritise getting something EV just because maintenance is minimal.

      I ride around the inner west daily, and the number of EV motorcycles is really shooting up, i'm especially seeing heaps of those "fonzarelli" scooters & zero motorcycles. and the demographic riding them seems to be changing aswell, mostly young professionals. From the people i know that ride them all say the same thing, the reason for them getting these bikes has nothing to do with the fuel cost and has everything to do with the low maintenance and not needing to worry about smelling like petrol when they get in the office.

      My summary is that i disagree with your statement of "Motorcyclists will be the absolute last to be dragged kicking and screaming into the electrical vehicle era". Maybe the traditional motorcyclist, but not the new ones.

      • +5

        I know someone who got one of these for almost every reason you've described.

        He uses it primarily for commuting to work, doesn't want to have to worry about maintenance/working on it, but his favourite reason is that it helps him greatly to get through traffic congestion during peak hour like a car never could.

        He still has a car, an occasionally drives it to work when necessary, but the motorcycle has become by far his primary means.

    • What's the best $3000 brand-new 250cc bike out there? At that price, I would be tempted to buy one to commute.

    • +2

      +1.
      I’m far from a petrol head but the “feel” is the reason I got into riding.
      Also safety wise I wouldn’t feel comfortable riding a high performance bike at next to zero noise sharing the road with the general population.
      And unlike EV cars, the price difference between high performance EV and ICE bikes are not enough to justify the jump. Eg. I paid ~10k for my Vulcan S which has more hp and faster 0-60, albeit they now retail at around 12k. In comparison, I couldn’t find a ~520hp ICE option for the money I paid for my Seal.

    • +1

      Agree to some extent. Electric motorcycles are terrible for touring and high performance riding as their batteries just arent effective enough at delivering high volumes of energy from small batteries. But for commuters - perfect!, only issue is price, at $10k it's still very expensive for something that can only really do commuting.

    • yea true but i considered for a second "can I convert the DS model to full off road". The answer would be yes, ktm pds shock, the fork would need a whole front end + some engineering

      The next question I asked myself, how would it hold up in a crash or multiple drops

      Belt drive is a deal breaker though, I doubt that shit is going to hold up

      Stark varg's are about 15k but they havent released their registered model

      • I used to wonder about belt drives…. first noticed them on harleys… but 40 years of moving those overweight tractors without dropping the idea suggests to me that they work.
        I've never had a bike with a belt drive, but I wouldn't see it as a negative now. A quick google suggests harley belt drives getting 100K with about $200 replacement cost (which may be PR pulling the chain quite a bit), but still is incredibly cheaper than what I used to spend on chains.
        Do they break sometimes? Dunno…maybe. But the ramifications and cost would be far less than slinging a chain and having broken crankcase bits.
        If you're talking only in terms of off road… I don't have so much experience in that, but water mud and grit kills chains, which means the best way to keep a chain in good nick is to have a fully enclosed chaincase. Haven't seen many of them in recent years, and never on an off road.
        Maybe some shaft drive off road bikes have sneaked past my awareness…. ahem

  • Out of curiosity OP, how much is the annual insurance premium on these….

    • +5

      CTP I paid 2 days ago… it was $117.98 (it is classed as an "under 50cc motorcycle"

      I have Shannons insurance and limited usage (up to 5,000km/year) and it's about $300 for comprehensive

      • +1

        Cheers, thats not too bad…

      • Wow that is amazing. I'd imagine rego would be cheaper too.

        In Victoria anything larger than 499cc attracts a rego fee of $750/year or there about.

      • I think you either got lucky or the loop hole for your ctp will get closed soon

        • It is literally listed as "Under 50cc OR electric motorcycle" on the CTP. All the CTP quotes I did were the same.

          It may be part of an incentive for EV vehicles being cleaner?? I dont know. Even the registration costs are lower than any other bike I have, it falls into the under 100cc grouping for state rego tax.

          Charges Annual
          Rego fee: $79.00
          Tax: $83.00
          Total: $162.00

          I have a feeling that this is the case will all motorcycles in NSW now. It used to be based on CC, but my 700cc bike is the same prices as the electric bike. CTP is different though and that is based on CC's

  • Certainly an interesting option,esp as a 2nd vehicle. The website chooses to compare the bike with a ice bike - I'd be interested in seeing a comparison with an ebike. I assume that the owner is up for rego and insurance - surely the best part of $2k pa?
    Personally, I'd like to see a $$ comparison with an ebike. And a pre2000 bike running club plates

    • the purchase price is on par with an ebike, but the running costs like rego and insurance would kill the comparison.

      example: https://cycleaddiction.com.au/product/amflow-plcarbonpro/

    • ahhh… historic vehicle rego… nice
      though I wouldn't be so impressed with the concept if I was in a place where you could only use the critter on club runs, rather than the standard 90 days….

  • tempted, but it better damn be the best bike out there to justify this cost. I would have liked it to have 200+ range for that price and be sold with fast charging.

  • +3

    Surely EV MCs should be called Ohm_ahas?

    • +6

      K-watt-saki, or Y-ohm-aha ?

      • +2

        My daughter went to sth America some years ago and bought me a T-shirt with a llama on a m/c with the caption “LLamaha”. Cute, I thought, thinking it was a Lamaha - some years laters i learnt a little Spanish and realised that a double L is pronounced “yah” ==> “Yamaha” !

  • +1

    Bravo OP.

    You should definitely be nominated for best description of the year.

  • +1

    Thanks op for great write-up.
    Excited to see ev hapening in two wheel world as well.
    Probably not cheap enough to replace my 150cc scooter but hoping the day would come soon😀

  • +1

    thanks op. now, i just need a mid life crisis before i get out the cheque book…

    • +2

      What's a cheque book?

  • +11

    As a rider of a very loud bike I don't believe that "loud pipes save lives". With windows and music and the Doppler effect cars in front of you don't really hear the bike. Driving defensively and taking yourself out of the path of danger is the safest way.

    Love to see electric motorcycles taking off, great for commuting

    • Driving defensively and taking yourself out of the path of danger is the safest way.

      oh boy have I got a real treat for you

      • Ham thinks it okay be in an accident in a lawn mower car than being able to avoid an accident. Must be great to be a footage of a roundabout T bone on dash cam Australia on YouTube.

        • Nah I just don't drive like a f**kwit. I'd rather keep myself, the kids and the car intact instead of getting through a roundabout 2 seconds earlier.

          • @Captain Yobbo: You are the (profanity) for being judgemental. Keep driving slow grandpa. Eventually when the mass majority has evs. I already developed the skills to be twitch driver and with cod like reaction unlike you.

            • @ChickenAdobo: LOL nice troll or epic butthurt, it's so hard to tell the difference when you carry on like such a jerk off. COD reaction?! Fking lollll!

    • @ Ezekiel2320 "As a rider of a very loud bike I don't believe that "loud pipes save lives".

      As a rider of a very loud bike I know that loud pipes can save lives.
      As I've previously written in this post…. one example was they saved me getting tangled with a tractor and large agricultural implements at significant speed on the curving crest of a hill.
      Now you could do the full judge judy and say "but you shouldn't have been riding so fast that you couldn't stop when you saw the hazard"…. and I'd say then you aren't riding a motorbike… either you're fantasising about having ever ridden, or you ride an RV90 that the muffler fell off.

  • +1

    how is 105nm of torque not a wheelie machine… Literally more than an mt07 and mt09 and about 6nm less than an mt10

    • +1

      I dont know. I think that it has no "clutch" so you cant "clutch" it up. You snap the power on and it just walks… I have a feeling it is something to do with how they map the power output to try and keep that front wheel down. It may have sensors in it that senses you are about to start to lift and it just cuts throttle response enough that you dont really notice, but it's enough to keep the front wheel down??

      • +2

        A simple throttle mapping change away from being a wheelie machine I'm sure!

    • I once had an ebike I bought in a kmart runout for $375….it must have been before the PAS pedal assist bit where you only get power if you turn the pedals.
      Heavy as fork….but I got a helluva wakeup one day not paying attention, with most of my weight on my grounded foot taking off from a set of lights. The bike hardly moved but the front wheel launched higher than my biggest and unexpected wheely on an RZ500.
      Unless there are sensors or standing start restrictions…. things would be spectacular if rider weight wasn't firmly anchored on the bike.

  • The price is right, but the range is still too much of a compromise to consider trading in my MT07.
    OP, how are the ergonomics and handling?

    • +2

      Yeah, I wouldnt trade your MT-07 in for it. They are not the same class of bike. Now, if all you were doing was riding your MT-07 from home to work and back, then sure, I woudl consider it, but if you have the Yamaha already, stick with it…

      Ergos I would say are good. It feels like a very light and nimble 300cc naked bike (think CFMoto 300NK) and rides like a supermotard, but with WAAY more torque.

  • +2

    I've been using an EV Moped Arthur Fonz as my run around, heaps of fun - costs nothing to run - and - not having an exhaust / noise gives you an advantage, you can hear everything around you - get about 70km out of a charge and top speed about 90km.

    Saying that - ev is perfect for mopeds - i'm not so sure i'd replace my bike with ev.

  • +3

    As a returning rider after COVID, I was in the market for a new bike two months ago and was interested in these motorcycles, however the price was crazy high, so in the end I purchased a new 2023 runout cl500 Honda and imported a low and louder exhaust with the savings. Super happy with it.

    I think even at 10k they are not priced for value. Maybe 8.5k ride away would be a good price point. My 2c.

  • +1

    Great description, personally it doesn't fit me but there's nothing wrong with people having different options.

    I have a regular petrol car and a petrol motorbike. Personally I would go electric for the next car much more readily. I find petrol motorbikes to already have many of the same characteristics as an EV, i.e. good throttle response because they often come with ITBs, good power:weight ratio, pretty cheap on fuel, but somewhat poor range. Plus the engine noise sounds good at least when compared to the average modern 4-cylinder economy car.

  • +1

    I felt immensely safer on my XJ1300 and KTM1290 with aftermarket exhausts.

    I'm not sure how much Hi-Vis you'd need to wear on a silent bike. I love electric cars, but unless every car becomes self-driving with lidar, I won't get on an electric bike.

    • +4

      Something to consider which I was reminded of during motorcycle training and just looked up - "Around half of crashes resulting in a life lost or serious injury are single vehicle crashes involving only the motorcycle."

      • +8

        If only they had "LoUd PiPeZ!1!!"

  • +4

    This or iphone 16 pro max?

  • +1

    can I borrow $5k using this https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/903441 and self-fund the rest of this?

  • Loud Pipes save lives is bit of a hog crank talk but I'd see its a more an issue in heavily pedestrianised areas. Electric cars are quiet but the EV bike will be even quieter, I am jut saying you would need to ride more vigilantly on something like this

  • +2

    A brand new Honda PCX 125 is $4500 out the door with 12 months rego. 400km range off an 8l tank, bulletproof reliability, good resale value, far more practical.

    • +1

      But only half as fun, so the price probably works out about right.

    • +3

      Ahhhh, yes, for all the times I want to ride 400km non stop on a *checks notes* "step through/underbone scooter"

      Anyway, let's compare…

      Model Zero S Honda PCX 125
      Power: 34kW 8.6 kW
      Torque: 105Nm 11.8 Nm
      Top Speed: 160km/h 118km/h
      Range: 145km 385km

      4 times the power
      Almost 10x the torque
      40km/h top speed increase
      Just under half the range (*sad face emoji* no 400km trips on the Zero in one go…)

      I know what one I would rather be sitting on when I was on the 100km/h highway section to work.

      For $10k I suppose you could always buy 2 Honda PCX 125's and ride them like a chariot.

      • +1

        Mate, you’re awfully defensive. We are talking about urban commuters and you want to pull power figures. I threw out another option.

        If it’s HP, torque and top speed you’re chasing then there are far, far better motorcycles at the $10k price point.

        I know what one I would rather be sitting on when I was on the 100km/h highway section to work.

        lol, yeah and at 100km/h, how far down the highway are you getting? About 60km? Not practical.

        And your quoted top speed of 160km/h on the Zero? Next minute you’re calling for a tow because you depleted the battery in 5 minutes.

        If you’re chasing specs, there’s far better options for the price.

        If you’re chasing a reliable and economical commuter, there’s far better options for half the price.

        • +1

          I agree with you mate. This electric motorcycle makes zero sense as a vehicle at this kinda price and with such limited range even though it's a cool concept. Best to get an electric scooter/ebike etc if you only need to go places within the inner city, or get a cb125 or petrol scooter/moped for longer range commutes (with options for better storage too). Or if you really want a motorcycle for fun, buy a CBR500R, Ninja 500 etc for the same price… And you'll actually be able to enjoy long rides.

        • Interested in knowing the option with 1/2 the price. Can you give an example?

    • +4

      Yeah but it's a scooter

      • Neither have gears, the Zero is just a fake motorcycle

    • That is stunning - 400km off 8L

    • +1

      Aside from both being a two wheeled mode of transport, your example and OPs have virtually nothing in common.

  • +1

    Thanks for sharing OP.

  • L license eligible?

    • +1

      I dont think so. Check your state approved list… They "were", but I think since these are 34kW, they fall outside the new lower 25kW limit in most states now.

  • Went on a demo ride day on a Zero, 2024 model.

    Amazing performance, but the suspension wasn't so great around corners. Expected kinda top of the rangeish suspension and brakes for the manic speed you can build up and the price. 35k+ was too much

  • +1

    The 2023 S and DS seem very similar in spec and are the same price, is it just the tyres and colour that are different?

    Very interesting though, I've been watching the Zero space for a bit as they seem a leader in this market but the affordability factor has been a barrier.

    I also quite like the Surron, but price wise the Zero seems much better value as a commuter, where the Surron is more for the recreational offroad rider with occasional short road trips:

    https://ampdbros.com.au/collections/surron-electric-dirt-bik…

  • -1

    Not made by the CCP too.

    Result.

    • +1

      Built in America might not be a popular alternative at the moment

      • I think it's made in the Philippines.

        • +1

          Some are American. The one at my local dealership has an American VIN

          • @Brick Tamland: Americans don't work for pennies. I can smell a cheaper CCP made alternative coming soon. Hold..

  • Can you receive any sort of EV credit for this?

    • +3

      New South Wales (NSW)
      EV rebate ended on 31 December 2023.
      Electric motorcycles are not eligible.
      ✅ No current rebates for electric motorcycles.

      Victoria (VIC)
      Offers a $100 annual registration discount for Zero and Low Emission Vehicles (ZLEVs).
      Electric motorcycles are excluded from this discount.
      ✅ No current rebates for electric motorcycles.

      Queensland (QLD)
      ZEV rebate ended in September 2024.
      E-mobility rebate applies only to e-bikes and e-scooters.
      ✅ No current rebates for electric motorcycles.

      South Australia (SA)
      $3,000 subsidy ended on 1 January 2024.
      3-year registration exemption still active for EVs under $68,750, but excludes motorcycles.
      ✅ No current rebates for electric motorcycles.

      Tasmania (TAS)
      $2,000 EV rebate program has closed.
      E-mobility rebate applies to e-bikes and cargo bikes, not motorcycles.
      ✅ No current rebates for electric motorcycles.

      Northern Territory (NT)
      Offers stamp duty waiver (up to $1,500) and free registration until 30 June 2027.
      Electric motorcycles may be eligible if registered as plug-in EVs.
      ⚠️ Possibly eligible — check with NT Motor Vehicle Registry.

      Australian Capital Territory (ACT)
      Offers stamp duty exemption and discounted registration for Zero Emission Vehicles (ZEVs).
      Electric motorcycles may qualify if they meet emissions criteria.
      ⚠️ Possibly eligible — check with Access Canberra.

      Western Australia (WA)
      Offers a $3,500 Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) rebate.
      Electric motorcycles are not eligible — rebate applies only to electric cars under $70,000.
      ✅ No current rebates for electric motorcycles.

  • I don't even know it exist. Thanks for letting me know.

  • Super tempting. I have about 8km of private road around my property and this would be a good way to have some fun. Lately I've been sticking to escooters.

  • 100km range from a 7.2kw battery is pretty impressive, but i can see why it would be a limiting factor for a lot of people, unless it's got a spot to carry a type 2 charge cable (in which case you could easily top it up in less than an hour at the various public AC chargers that are around the traps).

    • It doesn't have a "Type 2" charger interface or charger, it has a C13 or "jug cord" socket. You can however make/buy a "Type 2 male to C13" cable that essentially turns a Type 2 AC charging station into a 10a wall socket and that will charge it, albeit at the slower rate…

      And trust me, there is MORE than enough room on the bike for these charging cables. I have a "Type 2 to C13" cable as well as a "GPO to C13" that I mostly just leave in the bike if I have to go outside my range, or if I think it is going to be tight.

      • Aliexpress has much cheaper adapters that have worked just fine for me when using public chargers.

        • Yeah, I had one of the "tube" types that had a Type 2 on one side and GPO on the other, but it was random if it worked or not. I ended up making a cable out of some spare parts I had laying around and a $30 Type 2 plug I bought from AliExpress.

          • @pegaxs: Ah, that's fair.

            I am keen on an aftermarket quickcharger but I am going to wait until the warranty expires before I start tinkering.

            • @Aggregate3: Yeah, I was looking at that option as well, getting one of the DC chargers that plugs in under the back of the bike that are recommended on most of the Zero groups, removing the top storage take and fitting it there and just working in a Type 2 socket.

              I wont be buying the "genuine" kit for their ridiculous $6k price tag. Same for their 3.6kWh "range extender tank" for a total of 10.8kWh… $6k for an extra 20~40km of range? Cheaper to just upgrade to 14.4kWh bike and get double the range.

              • @pegaxs: If one of the official chargers was on a runout sale I would consider it but yeah, costs way too much.

      • That’s a great suggestion, you don’t happen to know of someone that will ship to Australia? That link they only ship within EU, and googling I only found one other store selling them, but same deal, won’t ship to Aus. Where did you get your cable from?

  • -5

    Motorcycles are a death sentence.

    • +8

      Everyone dies, but some people never live

      • Why the (profanity) is this working on me. No no no I CANNNT

      • -2

        Being a paralysed from the waist down motorcycle accident survivor isn't "living" imo.

        • Living in a cocoon sheltered from life experiences isn't either…

          • @edrift: There are millions of other ways of "living" besides riding a motorcycle, that DON'T result in you possibly dying if things go wrong.

            • +1

              @MrZ: Every way of living results in a possible fatal outcome.

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