Louis Theroux: The Ultra Zionists - Free Streaming @ ABC iView

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Louis Theroux: The Ultra Zionists - Free Streaming @ ABC iView
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Aus Falcon on 02/07/2025 - 21:05 iview.abc.net.au (1303 clicks)
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Currently available for a very limited time on ABC iview until 8:56pm AEST 22 Jul 2025

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/louis-theroux-the-ultra-zionis…

In this provocative documentary, Louis Theroux travels to the West Bank to meet Jewish settlers living in some of the most controversial and politically sensitive areas. With his signature calm and inquisitive style, Theroux explores the motivations, beliefs, and tensions that define life among ultra-nationalist Zionists, shedding light on the complex realities of the the region.

Also available, is the very hard to get until the ABC posted it 2 weeks ago is Louis Theroux: The Settlers. This does not have an expiry date, but don't be surprised if it is taken down soon as it has been done with services in several other countries.

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Comments

                  • Clarky77 on 03/07/2025 - 22:47
                    -1

                    @RecklessMonkeys: Proportionate?
                    If only war was conducted more fairly hey, you rape 14 of our women so we should only rape 14 of yours is that how you think war works?
                    I’m sorry but when you choose to attack civilian targets out of the blue you lose the moral high ground especially when you purposely build all your military assets hidden among civilians.
                    Imagine if Israel were as indiscriminate as the Palestinians are??
                    Or is the fact Israel survived being attacked from all sides by far larger military powers something they should be ashamed of?
                    I think any country that had faced such an existential threat for most of their existence would probably be far less understanding when their cities come under threat.
                    It’s a very modern phenomenon to assume war can be waged in a way that isn’t horrible but I guess it’s all about deciding who has the moral high ground I guess and only then is it ok to kidnap civilians at a music festival and still claim to be the aggrieved party.
                    Interesting way to view the world that’s for sure?

                    • RecklessMonkeys on 03/07/2025 - 23:55
                      -1

                      @Clarky77: While I was reading your tripe, I could visualize you lighting the Geneva Convention on fire.

                      • Clarky77 on 04/07/2025 - 10:01
                        -1

                        @RecklessMonkeys: Ikr, how dare the allies burn Dresden, that was far from proportionate.
                        How dare the allies bomb Japan even though it might have saved 100s of thousands of lives that would’ve been lost in the alternative.
                        If someone robs your parents house seems only fair you should be able to rob their parents house right?
                        Out of interest who gets to decide what’s a proportionate response?
                        I assume you believe Hamas was following the Geneva Convention on Oct 7th right?
                        Or in your mind do you think Hamas as the imagined morally superior side in this conflict is the only one entitled to the protection of international law?

                        • RecklessMonkeys on 04/07/2025 - 11:33
                          -1

                          @Clarky77: What are you , three?
                          Because most adults understand that two wrongs don't make a right.
                          Go and bore someone else with your whataboutism.

                          • Clarky77 on 04/07/2025 - 12:58

                            @RecklessMonkeys: Ah ok, so it’s better to do horrible things to provoke your enemy but if they respond then you can blame them for not being proportionate?
                            If only everyone had your idealism hey? ;)

                            “Whataboutism” very original, please include “strawman” in your next response as that’ll definitely make any opinion different to your own seem irrelevant!

                            Should I start negging every comment you make just to keep things equal?

                            • RecklessMonkeys on 04/07/2025 - 14:37

                              @Clarky77: It's the law, you dimwit.

                              All you've got are logical fallacies.

                              Stop wasting my time.

                              • Clarky77 on 04/07/2025 - 14:46

                                @RecklessMonkeys: “Dimwit” “Whataboutism” “Logical Fallacies”

                                I bet your mother thinks you are the smartest person in your political science and women’s studies course? At least the top 3, am I right?

                                The funny thing is, I don’t believe either side in this conflict clearly owns the moral high ground and if you actually keep an open mind and research the history without any bias that becomes clearer, but as is usually the case with people who come into an argument looking to be morally superior they always assume the perceived weaker side to be the victim without looking into the full history.
                                Stay angry my friend and remember the best way to convince others of your opinion is to insult them ;)
                                Enjoy your day!

              • wizza13 on 02/07/2025 - 22:26
                +12

                @RecklessMonkeys: The sad thing is this guy isn't trolling lol. He's actually brainwashed. It's terrifying people can be so smug and righteous about the death of innocent civilians

                • RecklessMonkeys on 02/07/2025 - 22:28
                  +5

                  @wizza13: It's worse than that. It's Hasbara.

                  • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:32
                    +1

                    @RecklessMonkeys: You mean facts?

                    • rooster7777 on 02/07/2025 - 22:38
                      +5

                      @freshofftheplane: Fact is that you are an abhorrent soulless zionist…

                      • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:40
                        +1

                        @rooster7777: You mean believing in the right of self determination of the Jewish people in their indigenous land?

                        • poppingtags on 02/07/2025 - 23:09
                          +6

                          @freshofftheplane: You mean the violent and genocidal expulsion of approximately three quarters of all Palestinians from the homes and homeland held for generations by Zionist terrorists in the Nakba? (Thanks for bringing more attention to how violence and genocide has been part and parcel of Israeli culture from the very beginning).

                          • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 23:13
                            +2

                            @poppingtags: You mean the UN partition plan and the rejection by the Arab states (no "Palestinians" back then) that triggered a war, in which the Arabs lost, and some decided to flee to neighbouring countries?

                            It is a well documented historical event

                            • poppingtags on 02/07/2025 - 23:37
                              +6

                              @freshofftheplane: You mean the 750,000 to 1,000,000 Palestinians who were killed and displaced in the Nakba, didn't exist? (Again, thanks for highlighting that genocidal terrorism is well and truly part of being Israeli and something that Zionism has always supported - its people like you who drive more and more people against Zionist terrorism everyday <3

                              • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 23:41

                                @poppingtags: Ohh so scary, I'm sure you lot are making a huge impact!

                                Stop polluting Australia with your ignorance and racism please.

                                • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 00:02
                                  +4

                                  @freshofftheplane: You and I both know that it is scary - if it weren't, Zionists (like you) wouldn't be trying so desperately to stop growing condemnation. You and I both know that being a Zionist isn't something you'd be brandishing proudly when you're not hiding behind your little keyboard - being anti-Zionist is something that I will.

                                  Literally no one is buying your "criticising Israel is Antisemitic" rubbish. There's nothing racist about standing against Genocide - supporting genocide on the other hand, is racist. I disdain Zionists just as much as I disdain Nazis - because they're racist, genocidal movements.

                                  • freshofftheplane on 03/07/2025 - 00:18
                                    +4

                                    @poppingtags: I don't hate Japanese people. I only hate Japanism, the desire of the Japanese to have their own country.

                                    I don't hate Finnish people. I only hate Finnishism, the desire of the Finns to have their own country.

                                    I don't hate Bolivian people. I only hate Bolivianism, the desire of Bolivian people to have their own country.

                                    Let's not conflate the Japanese, the Finnish, and the Bolivian people with Japanism, Finnishism, and Bolivianism.

                                    • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 00:29
                                      +6

                                      @freshofftheplane: Ignored my point about why you're so scared and desperate. I guess you agree that there's a growing stigma with Zionism rightfully linked with genocide and apartheid, all around the world.

                                      Did any of those people violently massacre and steal the land of people who still exist today to form their own "country"? Did any of those people continue to harass and kill the people whose land they stole to form their own "country", for the last 70 years?

                                      Didn't think so.

                                      Did you bring anymore strawmen, or is that all you're packing today? The hasbara budget must be running low if they couldn't even teach you the basics of forming a remotely legible argument.

                                      • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 07:17
                                        +1

                                        @poppingtags: You're asking if a Spanish colonial country like Bolivia had massacres during its founding? Yeah I reckon it did, mate.

                                        • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 09:26
                                          +1

                                          @dumdum2: And was that wrong? If it is, I’ve got bad news for you, mate.

                                          Additionally - are Bolivians still living under Spanish rule, with their entire lives restricted under a Spanish apartheid regime, with their people continuously murdered and their lands and homes stolen through 70 years of Spanish terrorism?

                                          Yeah I reckon it’s not, mate. Funny how you conveniently gloss over that comparison - then again maybe you’re just living up to your username.

                                          • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 09:29

                                            @poppingtags: Lives will be restricted if a lot of people in a population like to practice terror and suicide bombings against civilians. Which I'm sure you find fully understandable and supportable, as long as it's not happening to you.

                                            • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 09:33
                                              +2

                                              @dumdum2: So you fully understand and support the violent expulsion and murder if Palestinians by Zionist terrorists for the past 70 years and the apartheid conditions they have to live in, because it’s not happening to you? For someone who I’m sure loves to shot “what about October 7th??”, you really seem to struggle to see the connection between 70 years of Israeli terrorism, and the disdain the world holds for it today.

                                              Zionists really are a very empathetic crowd.

                                              • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 09:35
                                                +2

                                                @poppingtags: Palestinians have been the ones to start the violence on every occasion going back to the 1920s, always with attacks against innocent civilians. I don't support violence or expulsion against any civilians, but any rational population would expect walls, checkpoints, restrictions on the ability to import goods, if they had such a massive number of internationally recognised terrorist groups forming a big share of their population.

                                                The Palestinian Authority had numerous chances to end this conflict with a 2 state solution and faced huge pressure by the Arab World to accept, but always said no and turned back to violence against civilians in the 2nd Intifada.

                                                • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 11:05

                                                  @dumdum2: The cognitive dissonance is astounding. European Collonial Zionists moved in and forcefully took Palestinian homes 70 years ago, with violence, force and murder - if you support Israel, then you support violence, apartheid, and genocide, its that simple. That's what anyone is going to think of you the moment they know you're a Zionist - despite your frankly pathetic attempts at justifying these horrors. The Nakba and every single day that has followed is the nightmare of a recurring October 7th that Palestinian people have had to live through for 70 years.

                                                  There's no excuse for 70 years of Zionist terrorism, in trying to escape Nazism, Zionists have become something even more horrifying - and the world is finally starting to treat them with the contempt they deserve.

                                                  • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 11:08

                                                    @poppingtags: "European Colonial Zionists" aka Jewish refugees from European and Arab world violence and genocide, migrated to the only place on the planet they could get to, only to be met with violence from Palestinians who demanded zero Jewish immigration to the historical Jewish homeland. It's equivalent of if an Aboriginal nation exiled from Australia was forced to come back here to avoid genocide and White Australia said no and tried to kill them instead.

                                                    • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 11:30
                                                      +2

                                                      @dumdum2: Jewish refugees…of German Nazism? You'd think all you Zionists were Olympians with the level of mental gymnastics you keep trying to pull off. If they had carved up part of Germany and formed Israel, no one would be opposed to it - but they didn't, because they didn't want to sacrifice their land and their homes - so they took the homes of the Palestinians instead. Nazism doesn't excuse being even more barbaric and cruel for 70 years to a people who had nothing to do with the horrors of the Holocaust. Every post you make, makes it easier to see Zionism for the disgusting movement that it is.

                                                      • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 11:36

                                                        @poppingtags: Do you think Jews made up Nazism or something? What are you even claiming with your post, what gymnastics? And it wasn't just Nazism, Jews were persecuted in most European and Arab countries by local fascist movements.

                                                        I would like to see how you would respond to suicide bombings and deliberate massacres of civilians by terrorists. I'm sure you'd just surrender, kiss Hamas' arse, and ask Germany to take you and die if everyone says no like in the 1930s. Jews aren’t like that though.

                                                        • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 11:58
                                                          +3

                                                          @dumdum2: Man, you really do live up to that username of yours. I'll spell it out to you - Why have Palestinians had to pay with their lives and their land for the crimes of Nazism, for the past 70 years?

                                                          There would be no Hamas without Zionist terrorism. Zionists are racist, genocidal cowards that lost any semblance of humanity in their quest to eradicate Palestinians - it says a lot about your movement that you take pride in this. If you want to know why the world grows in its disdain for Zionists, this is why.

                                                          • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 12:05

                                                            @poppingtags: The same reason Lebanon is full of Syrian refugees, the same reason Europe has lots of refugees from all over the world, when a war happens there are refugees and you can't just decide they can't come or you’ll kill them like Palestinians decided they can do with Jews.

                                                            I get it, they wanted zero immigration, like we did when White Australia was in place. But you can't always get what you want.

                                                            • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 12:16
                                                              +2

                                                              @dumdum2: But you Zionists can go into Palestine, kill them, take their land, imprison them and systematically exterminate them for 70 years?

                                                              But you can't always get what you want - Zionism is now a deeply scorned movement all around the world. You and I both know that you'll keep your mouth shut about being a Zionist in public because you know how people will react if they knew. This is how apartheid states and overturned. The moment it becomes politically unpopular to support Zionism, politicians will abandon Zionism - and the tide has well and truly turned. Lets see how many people want to be Israeli, when the world treats them like the genocidal cowards that they are.

                                                              • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 12:21

                                                                @poppingtags: Everything that has happened since the first pogrom by Palestinians against Jews in Hebron in the 1920s, and even before that, has been a reaction to the nonstop escalation of Palestinian violence targeting civilians and their refusal to accept any peace settlements, even when the rest of the Arab world put enormous pressure on them to finally accept the borders of their own state and stop haggling.

                                                                The same would have happened to any population that is so prone to violence against civilians, in any country, anywhere in the world. Even most other Arab states are tired of this which is why several signed treaties with Israel and several more soon will.

                                                                This Palestinian automatic resort to violence has also caused chaos and civil war in Jordan and Lebanon so it is not some type of exclusively Jewish thing, more of a deep seated cultural problem which hopefully can be solved one day with a two state solution.

                                                                And I have no problem with everyone knowing I'm Zionist. There is nothing wrong with Jews having a state that values human rights for Jews as a priority. If things had been different, that could have been an evenly split Jewish-Palestinian state with rights for all, but we can't accept being murdered all the time so it didn't turn out.

                                                                • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 12:27
                                                                  +2

                                                                  @dumdum2: So many excuses for Zionist terrorism, all while finding it so very easy to pin the blame on everyone else.

                                                                  • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 12:30

                                                                    @poppingtags: It's been a pleasure to teach you, I can tell you've learned a lot about history today, the kind of stuff you won't find on TikTok.

                                                                    • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 17:01

                                                                      @dumdum2: You've demonstrated to anyone reading along why Zionism is a hateful, racist, genocidal movement with less than no justification that needs to be weeded out from society at large, and treated with disdain.

                                                                      If you learned some history from a book instead of all the Zionist cowards you're surrounded by, maybe you wouldn't have to call yourself dumdum.

                                                                      • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 17:29

                                                                        @poppingtags: Yeah I heard you the first 50 times mate

                                                                        Absolute broken record

                                                                        The Palestinians have spent 75 years trying to root out the Jews and people like you have learned nothing from their endless failures

                                                                        And I'm the dumb one?

                                                                        • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 17:43
                                                                          -1

                                                                          @dumdum2: I have no Zionist mates, even though with beliefs as twisted as yours, they're the only mates you'll have moving forward. Enjoy life as a pariah.

                                                                          You keep spewing Zionist propaganda, that no one's buying and I'm the broken record?

                                                                          You and the other Zionists wouldn't be squirming here in the comments, trying to justify 70 years of Zionist terrorism - if you didn't think the tide has turned.

                                                                          Since you had to ask - if you really don't think the tide has turned, then yes, on top of all the other evidence you've provided us with today - you really are the dumb one

                                                                          • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 17:49
                                                                            +1

                                                                            @poppingtags: Keep praying, wait another 75 years. In 1948, the Arab world had a good chance of pushing the Jews into the sea like they said they would. Now those same countries are signing peace treaties.

                                                                            Hezbollah was supposed to destroy Israel in a hail of missiles. They were too scared to help Iran after taking their money for decades. Militarily your side has utterly failed. The best you can hope for are some more Westerners disliking Israel, like that's going to magically make Israel disappear. Jews are used to hatred from Europe. It doesn't matter nearly as much as when we were ruled by people like yourself before Israel. When we had to deal with your Nazism which you think Jews made up.

                                                                            • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 18:03

                                                                              @dumdum2: It really speaks to what a disgusting movement Zionism is, that you take great pride in apartheid and genocide. At least you've dropped the facade of trying to make excuses for it. Truly despicable.

                                                                              I also don't have to wait - its already happening. You and I both know you wouldn't go around in public, proudly claiming to be a Zionist - because you know how people are going to treat you. I've had the misfortune of meeting Israelis who've tried to hide where they're from because they knew people will drop them like the genocidal cowards they are, the moment they knew (which they did). I've had Zionist friends completely ostracised in multiple groups of friends and colleagues. I've seen Jewish families split apart because younger Jewish people are smart enough to abandon their parent's and grandparent's genocidal ways. I've seen tourist destinations around the world openly show hostility towrads Israelis and Zionists - I'd hate to think what they must slip in their food. I don't have to pray - its already happening, and I'm sure you've already seen it firsthand - what I can promise you, is that its only going to get worse.

                                                                              When you're hated by the entire world for being genocidal, thieving cowards and constantly bombed by the neighbours you tried to eradicate - all of a sudden being an Israeli and a Zionst isn't something that's really appealing anymore.

                                                                              • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 18:07

                                                                                @poppingtags: Mate, how many times are you going to repeat this? I'm not going to change my opinions because some clueless Aussie threatens me online. Good for you if you're going around telling everyone you hate Israel, I'm sure they're very polite to you like when a crackhead tries to strike up a conversation on the tram.

                                                                                Shows how delusional you are that you think all your mates can get destroyed on the battlefield, the Arabs can sign peace treaties, but you're winning because you spat in a Jew's food.

                                                                                • poppingtags on 03/07/2025 - 18:13

                                                                                  @dumdum2: I'm not the one who keeps replying with a defence of Zionist terrorism.

                                                                                  We know you're not capable of changing your mind…dumdum2. You're just here to show everyone else how ridiculous your movement is, and for that - we thank you.

                                                                                  Australia has started to treat Zionists like crackheads, because they make about as much sense - although to be fair, at least the crackheads aren't trying to justify genocide. I reckon the vast majority of Aussies - and people around the world, would rather talk to a crackhead than a Zionist any day of the week.

                                                                                  • dumdum2 on 03/07/2025 - 18:14

                                                                                    @poppingtags: What a great example for how little you understand the real world. Reckon we can leave it there then, you can go chat with your crackhead mates.

                                                  • Clarky77 on 04/07/2025 - 14:55
                                                    -1

                                                    @poppingtags: “ in trying to escape Nazism, Zionists have become something even more horrifying “

                                                    Please explain in more detail how you came to this conclusion, you accuse others of mental gymnastics yet I think anyone would struggle to reach this conclusion.
                                                    So how many Jews live in the Middle East outside of Israel versus how many Arabs/Palestinians live inside Israel?
                                                    And why done any middle eastern/Arab countries want to accept any Palestinian refugees?

                                      • Clarky77 on 03/07/2025 - 22:55
                                        -2

                                        @poppingtags: I recommend you move back to Africa where all humans originally came from other wise you are just perpetuating this horrible humanistic idea that we are entitled to take land from the original species of animals and plants that occupied it for millennia.
                                        How else can you possibly be true to your clearly educated and highly moral ideas.
                                        Start a GoFundMe for the air fare and you might start a fad, imagine the concentration of morality you’ll all have over there without the weight of guilt you must feel daily living on stolen land.
                                        Bon Voyage ;)

                            • HereYeeHereYee on 03/07/2025 - 09:16
                              +2

                              @freshofftheplane: Did you know WA was once considered "promised" to them too?

                              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberley_Plan

                        • HereYeeHereYee on 03/07/2025 - 02:04
                          +2

                          @freshofftheplane: Still holding onto the fairytale books we see at the expense of killing women and children, genocide? 🤡

                    • RecklessMonkeys on 02/07/2025 - 22:48
                      +5

                      @freshofftheplane: Whenever someone like you pops up, I know to believe the opposite of what they say.

                      Any doubts I had about what's been going on in Palestine for generations are now gone. Your double speak is backfiring.

            • Dreamcast on 02/07/2025 - 23:27
              +1

              @freshofftheplane: Lol

        • HereYeeHereYee on 03/07/2025 - 09:15
          +1

          The irony of you posting an Israeli domain website 😂😂😂😂

      • McFly on 02/07/2025 - 22:01
        -1

        😅😅

      • Stueyz on 02/07/2025 - 22:42
        +4

        From ms Rachel(15.5m followers world famous children’s entertainer YouTube)
        There are trucks with enough food
        to feed a million people for 4 months
        a few miles away
        from STARVING CHILDREN.
        Cruelty.

    • life is suffering on 02/07/2025 - 21:55
      +14

      because Palestinians already have a home and its being destroyed.

  • Lunarboogie on 02/07/2025 - 21:47
    -5

    Why don't you post every other show on iView and through in the whole repertoire of SBS on demand while at it. Rage bait. Move on folks.

    • Deals For Days on 02/07/2025 - 21:48
      +13

      It’s a limited time deal on high quality content? The same stuff is posted when prime etc have limited time free stuff

    • Golazo on 02/07/2025 - 21:52
      +8

      Go on then, lead by example.

  • thrillhouseozb on 02/07/2025 - 21:50
    +19

    Free palestine. We love free things here

    • Jighuv on 02/07/2025 - 22:08
      +3

      LoL, v-funny.
      Free Palestine, Free Palestine, Free Palestine!
      Hold on, this might get moved to the freebies thread. ;)

  • Stueyz on 02/07/2025 - 21:55
    +17

    Did you know that Bob Vylan has bombed 490 schools and 697 healthcare facilities
    since October 7? …
    Hold on, I'm hearing that was the IDF, forget I said anything

    • MrZ on 04/07/2025 - 02:04

      Who's Bob Vylan?

    • DogGunn on 02/07/2025 - 22:07
      +10

      Pretty sure you'll find this is an actual genocide.

      • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:07
        -1

        Nope

        • DogGunn on 02/07/2025 - 22:11
          +8

          Nope what?

          Perhaps you should watch who Louis Theroux interviews - they very clearly identify that they do not care what happens to the Palestinians.

          • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:13
            +3

            @DogGunn: Perhaps you should read the definition of a genocide.

            • DogGunn on 02/07/2025 - 22:22
              +13

              @freshofftheplane: From the US Holocaust Museum:
              "The legal term “genocide” refers to certain acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group."

              Sure sounds like what Israel is proudly doing in Gaza - rendering it completely inhospitable.

              • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:25
                -2

                @DogGunn: So Israel is committing genocide on buildings then? Yeah, fair point.

                Gaza is probably the worst example of "genocide" you could come up with - the population growth is one of the highest in the world, and it keeps growing even during wartime!

                https://worldpopulationreview.com/cities/palestine/gaza

                • DogGunn on 02/07/2025 - 22:27
                  +7

                  @freshofftheplane: What you have posted is a projection of the population on the basis of previous trends.

                  There's no functioning government, census data, and death records are way behind.

                  If your defence is that Israel is not killing enough Palestinians to be classified as a genocide, it's a bloody bizarre defence of what they are doing.

                  • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:28
                    +2

                    @DogGunn: Was the genocide there before Oct 7th?

                    • DogGunn on 02/07/2025 - 22:29
                      +5

                      @freshofftheplane: Arguably the setup was there, but certainly when Israel determined to destroy what is estimated to be 92% of residential buildings following 7 October 2023, it definitely became one.

                      • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:31
                        +4

                        @DogGunn: What setup?

                        I'm sorry but destroying buildings is not a genocide. Go back to read the definition.

                        Israel could end everyone in Gaza in ten minutes IF THEY WANTED TO. But they never did.

                        • DogGunn on 02/07/2025 - 22:35
                          +8

                          @freshofftheplane:

                          I'm sorry but destroying buildings is not a genocide. Go back to read the definition.

                          It literally provides clear intent of genocide. It falls very much falls within the definition of Genocide.

                          Israel could end everyone in Gaza in ten minutes IF THEY WANTED TO. But they never did.

                          Ahh the ye old excuse. This is always embarrassing for those that say it.

                          Meanwhile Smotrich, the Finance Minister says things like:
                          "Gaza will be entirely destroyed, civilians will be sent to … the south to a humanitarian zone without Hamas or terrorism, and from there they will start to leave in great numbers to third countries"

                          Nah, no genocidal intent there…

                          • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:38

                            @DogGunn: Evacuating civilians before hitting targets is literally the opposite of having genocidal intent.

                            Smotrich is not running the show.

                            Should we quote some of the things that have been said by the most extreme right in Australia and pretend that it's actually happening? Sounds like a fun game of fantasy to me

                            • DogGunn on 02/07/2025 - 22:40
                              +8

                              @freshofftheplane:

                              Evacuating civilians before you hitting targets is literally the opposite of having genocidal intent.

                              Oh goodie, they're now excused from the copious amounts of bombing of civilian areas. Israel has shown that they can target precisely when they want to (as they did in Iran). Does not happen with Gaza.

                              Smotrich is not running the show.

                              Should we quote some of the things that have been said by the most extreme right in Australia and pretend that it's actually happening? Sounds like a fun game of fantasy to me

                              Smotrich is literally a member of the government and a Minister. There is not a far right member of government in Australia.

                              • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:43
                                +2

                                @DogGunn: Show me a single case of a bomb that killed civilians but didn't kill Hamas militants.

                                Oh right, you can't. because literally everyone including Hamas terrorists are being treated as civilians. The amount of ignorance about this war is mind blowing.

                              • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:45

                                @DogGunn: Also, why is Egypt not helping their Muslim brothers in Gaza? Answer that

                                • DogGunn on 02/07/2025 - 22:46
                                  +5

                                  @freshofftheplane: Because Egypt is also complicit?

                                  • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:48

                                    @DogGunn: So Egypt is complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people. And the world stays silent?

                                    • DogGunn on 02/07/2025 - 22:49
                                      +5

                                      @freshofftheplane: I'm confused, is this argument meant to somehow absolve any blame of Israel, because Egypt, whilst also complicit to some degree, is not the subject of as many political attacks as Israel?

                                      • freshofftheplane on 02/07/2025 - 22:52
                                        -1

                                        @DogGunn: Well, now that we've established that the only genocide that is potentially happening is being committed on cement.. my question to you is why does Israel cop all of the blame when it's very apparent that Egypt is blocking the Palestinians from safe haven?

                                        • DogGunn on 02/07/2025 - 22:54
                                          +8

                                          @freshofftheplane: I'm done - this is not a normal way to look at things.

                                          A complete indifference to how a whole population is treated is not okay.

                    • HereYeeHereYee on 03/07/2025 - 02:08
                      +3

                      @freshofftheplane: 78 years of illegal occupation and mass killings, oh wait…nevermind I found the deranged zio

                  • slepax on 02/07/2025 - 23:27
                    +2

                    @DogGunn:

                    There's no functioning government, census data, and death records are way behind.
                    But somehow death numbers (which are somehow all civilians) are collected and reported daily, but you're ok with that

                    • Ozymandias on 03/07/2025 - 10:57

                      @slepax: They said records were behind, not that they were falsified.
                      I suspect counting the corpses of children is a task that quickly wears thin.

  • tenpercent on 02/07/2025 - 21:57
    +4

    This should be moved to forums, the same as the other Theroux doco was.

    No free to air content is a bargain or deal. Never was. Never will be.

    • poppingtags on 02/07/2025 - 22:00
      +9

      I've been wanting to share this documentary with people, and wouldn't have known it was available (for a limited time) on ABC, without this post - let the votes decide if if stays or not.

    • RecklessMonkeys on 02/07/2025 - 22:15
      +4

      IMO, "The Settlers" should be moved back to deals.

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/912754

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