What is everyone opinion on Chatgpt will soon able to shop online on behalf of consumers?
https://x.com/sama/status/1945900345378697650
What are the implication to websites like Ozbargain, when deals are posted by an AI agent rather a real human? How can a moderator tell the difference?
Will Scotty spin up his own AI agent to manage Ozbargain?
Or virgins?
That's the spirit! Very soon it's going to be AI writing email and AI reading emails. Waste of energy, waste of resources.
It has been happening for well over a year now. I get pitched every day with oddly specific emails. One recalled the last time the author was in Melbourne and 'everyone' was talking about some unknown movie that was made there. Very obviously the AI pulls in information about me to craft something that will catch my eye.
On the other end, AI is reading emails coming in and deciding which ones need a human to respond, and responding itself to the ones that don't. Again for at least a year now, but probably longer.
That's wild man, idk why but it really reminds me of that scene from WallE where robots are doing everything conveniently for humans as they get fatter and fatter
OZB posts index almost instantly on search engines, so ChatGPT probably could already check OZB for deals and read the comments and expired tags to benefit from that insight too. I doubt Scotty wants to spend time learning AI when he's probably closer to retirement age than usual young person university learning age. He has kids and a social life.
… and elderly parents he's mentioned are in QLD if I remember correctly.
chatGPT3.5 just told me she hasn't been trained since 2023. She's sure she's being made redundant.
I've only been using 4o recently, but Cha will say that sometimes, but it will still look up current stuff no problem. The training data being old doesn't seem to hold it back or maybe it's not entirely true. I bet if you started a thread topic on OZB asking a very specific unique to the Internet question or using a few made up words, then asked Chat about it, Chat would search for and find that OZB thread and reference it. Search engines reindex it as quick as they do from major news sites, almost instantly. ChatGPT uses Bing, but I see it in my own Google searches too. OZB not treated like an ordinary blog or forum.
Really? What your saying makes more sense to me than what chatGPT will say if you ask. I was sick of arguing over stuff she was clearly wrong about, which is how we ended up discussing just how much she knows. She seems a bit insecure, maybe 4o fixed that.
@AustriaBargain: Apparently…. it offered to draw a diagram for me, then soon later it said I'd used up my 4o allowance and had a timeout until a certain time.
I started a new chat, reminded her of the previous chat, and was able to continue. I asked what that was all about and apparently asking for an image pushed me to 4o, and it stays there till that chat expires.
Maybe asking for something current does the same??
Just further leading to the dead internet theory.
Articles written by AI, and then summarised by AI, with websites being checked out by AI. Might as well just integrate directly with booking APIs via chatgpt rather than "browsing" websites.
We're in for a wild ride.
I predict either someone will throw up an AI free web, (I would charge $$$ such a concept) or a lot of ppl will ditch the web and live a life again. LOL.
We totally subscribe to the same conspiracies! 😄
We've probably missed out on a lot of deals here because no one added them. If AI can find all the deals all the time then that's a good thing isn't it?
All hail the enshitification of the eCommerce experience, dybamically personalised to drive you to wasting more time online, pumped into bot-generated web resources and social feeds, in search of bargains for anything you need, from which you will be distracted and driven into FOMO on all the other things you don't need at all.
Why the surprise?. Recent posts indicate ppl ask it how to breathe, wipe their butts, and relate to other humans, on their behalf. Hopefully it takes over their eating process too.
It'll certainly take over their jobs soon.
I'm waiting for the first 'But honey I didn't buy it, the bot did!' conversation between spouses.
There are already politicians doing it
The best part about that story, he blamed it for posts he made between 2008-2013. Still managed to win 40% of the vote for governor too (although it should have been a close race).
Didn't Alexa used to do something similar? And people had random stuff delivered from Amazon they weren't aware of ordering.
It will spend your entire bank and cc balance on random rubbish leaving it up to you to return what you don't want.
I do surveys for velocity points and one of the survey’s was asking me how far along the purchasing process would I accept AI involvement. No way I would accept AI buying shit on my behalf. I don’t even leave credit cards online at any store to speed up the process.
How can a moderator tell the difference?
Especially the forum posts when AI will learn to sprinkle a couple of seeking advise posts.
As much as I love AI, I absolutely would not trust using it to make purchases. My experience so far with product recommendations from AI such as ChatGPT is that it makes poor choices. I will wait to see how things progress.
The speed of evolution of online shopping is staggering.
No sooner had a new sales channel evolved some years back, than it started to be captured by the likes of Catch and Wish
The are now being replaced by dozens of "marketplaces" like Kmart, Bunnings which will list everything except your house. Great for google search results.
Now key players are trying to unravel AI to figure out how to reach the top of its recommendations.
Whoever can figure out or out think Chatgpt's infinite priorities is Winner, winner,
Gen Z and younger generations already turning to ChatGPT for everything. It's the new google……
The only way businesses can now index on ChatGPT is to try optimise their business and 'trick' ChatGPT somehow to even be recommended.
If someone says "what do you recommend for a cake for my friends birthday?", you can imagine how business would love to be on ChatGPTs list…..
Gen Z and younger generations already turning to ChatGPT for everything. It's the new google……
keep seeing this opinion. when in my experience it's directly the opposite. younger people treat ai like cheap junk, and it's the elderly who are genuinely using it as a direct alternative to google. even preferring to talk to it via voice. and even with various results they tend to ignore all the bad and focus on everything it helped them do.
Bots buying up all the deals before I get out of bed isn't going to be good…
bam, zero deals for you (using soup nazi voice)
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Yeap, that's never happened before.
If it ends up that bots buying the bargains, then who is making the payment? Someone would have authorise that bot to buy. The bot must transact to get the goods. I have gound when chatting, is in how you would ask the question. Like the subject of concern: first adjective; second adjective; ….and so on. I have had question that would be 40 words long, but it dies nail down your field of view. Many times the chat bot cannot respond, yes I do mot believe some LLMs are that good yet
then who is making the payment?
the ai is obviously. then you get bill from ai company + fees.
amazing. so in the future, all our social media activity will be written and posted by ai. all our online and grocery shopping will be done by ai.
gives you more time to spend doing things like going for a walk. amazing!! future!!
FUTURE!! the FUTURE looks GOOD! YOUR FUTURE is OK!
YOUR FUTURE is BLEAK! you will live in the pod and eat the bugs.
😂 I miss that meme.
you will own nothing! and learn to eat ze bugs!!!
funny thing is I'm actually thinking it's coming true. because everything is moved to subscription model and animal agriculture uses too much fresh water. 🤣
The ruling class knew that AI technology was coming, to make humans more "productive" and therefore, humans will probably achieve more, getting out of debt earlier.
So, they just pushed the 'finish line' even further now, with creating more debt and inflating prices everywhere,…so even with AI,…you are still going to be working harder, longer in life now.
Debt is the only thing that is creating obedience & submission in this society, so the debt controllers are also going to use AI to maintain their control of a population, who will use the watered-down AI.
thanks makes sense.
uh btw not sure how reliable this is, but I heard many desirable type things, will get bigger than usual price rises soon. think smartphones etc. one company announced already they will be raising prices of many products, being Sonos.
Debt is the only thing that is creating obedience & submission in this society,
I agree. usually get "first world problems" tacked on so I don't mention it. but what you have today is as that youtube lecturer who blew up described as "perfected slavery". we are all in this consumerist society, where we compare each other by the way we look and the items we have as well as how many numbers are in our bank accounts. then you add the division caused by racism/gender/ageism which only needs minimal manufactured propaganda, and we are all fighting each other to climb to the top, of a imagined pyramid of joy that doesn't even exist.
honestly sometimes I try to just submit and enjoy what I can. but sometimes i snap out of it, like the other day I was eating chips and I thought. why does my brain tell me these chips are the most delicious thing ever, when it is a non-food and will make me thirsty (usually for a can of soda) and I know I will be hungry again in 30 mins. why do I continue to buy items, and does my brain tell me that I have worked hard and achieved something exceptional, when it's really all just fake joy that doesn't last. and I repeat the process. sometimes the item brings the opposite of joy, more like empty sadness, and I wish I would never do it again but I always do. and I realise I have been conditioned from birth to behave a certain way, to find joy in certain "things". not going to go on about it because it gets depressing real quick. it's easier and happier just to submit to the reptilian brain (calling it this is a mistake, better to stay clueless and just forget about it), and ride the psyop wave. but can't help but question what I am doing sometimes, it doesn't even feel like it's something I choose. (meanwhile if I mention any of this to anyone, I usually get the response "I know what is and isn't, I know a lot more than you, and understand everything, I am 100% confident I make my own decisions on everything, nobody owns me and seems like you have a problem with taking responsibility" at which point it's just so off topic that, end of conversation)
Like most things it will probably start out ok, get a little better, then just as people are really enjoying using it, the shitification will start.
They will start accepting payments from companies to promote their results and the query returns will become crap.
Just look at how bad google has become in basic search these days.
I imagine what would happen is that the AI company will just make the money by injecting it's own affiliate links, so instead of you getting a cashback through your cashback provider like Cashrewards or Shopback, OpenAI instead takes the affiliate money for itself.
jv will be able to increase his comment count substantially…
There are already some posters on here who have admitted to using AI to write their deal posts. Not me though. I have and always say ozbargain shitposting should remain organic/ wild farmed like salmon.