Tracks the energy use of connected devices and allows electricity rate input for bill estimates
Mini-sized to avoid blocking adjacent outlets
Manage your smart plug with voice commands via Amazon Alexa, Apple Siri, or Google Assistant
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You don’t need a hub or anything for this?
Nope
Another good use case - plug the xmas tree lights into one so you can turn them on and off easily
Nice, anyone have any reviews of this?
Interested in using it to schedule power output doing off-peak and shoulder to save a bit of money on recharging items!!
These are great and work great with Home Assistant — the only potential big caveat is that they might suffer the same "click of death" issue that plagues the earlier Tapo and Kasa energy monitoring smart plugs. I'm hoping these won't have the same problem, but the issue only tends to show up 2-3 years after you start using them, so it's too early to tell since the P110M hasn't been around for very long.
What is a click of death??
It's clicks and dies
@life is suffering: well, a little more than that. It can click on/off/on/off…etc. Sometimes they carry on working, but I wouldn’t as not reliable. I've had these only fail after unplugging having being working fine for several years monitoring Fridge or back of TV area. It just didnt like being turned off/unplugged.
It goes on-off-on-off-on-off…. non-stop. These plugs makes a click sound when the on/off state is toggled (hence click of death). It's affects a lot of smart plugs. The issue seems to be they all follow the same circuit design and one of the capacitors blows up after a while (and then it starts having click of death).
This appears to be a newer model, but you can't really tell if the problem is fixed (because it tends to take a while before this issue appears) and you don't want to open it up and check the circuit board inside.
It's affects a lot of smart plugs.
i think click of death occurs when click on/off/on in the app too rapidly
which sends too much current and blows some component inside the plug.
I noticed it happen when I plug it into an appliance and when I turn it ON/OFF/ON or OFF/ON/OFF (can't remember which) too quickly
the device did that click of death.. and then no longer turns on
this is not a tapo but an old model plug from Brilliant brand
I think it might occur on any plug whether you get new model or older model
The click of death is when a smart plug fails, resulting in it cycling the switch/solenoid on and off very rapidly, producing a loud "click click click click" sound. I've had plugs that cycle on and off once a second, and other plugs where it's much faster, 3-4 times a second — it's quite a freaky sound. It keeps on going until you disconnect the smart plug from the power outlet.
It can potentially ruin whatever equipment is plugged into the smart plug, though luckily so far the click of death has only happened while I'm at home so I can catch it pretty quickly before it does too much damage. One time a click of death event actually triggered my RCD breaker, so that might have prevented further damage.
There's different theories about why a lot of smart plugs fail with the click of death, but the most popular one is that there was a seemingly huge batch of faulty capacitors used in manufacturing smart plugs around the world for several years. People say you can unsolder the faulty capacitor and replace it with a new one, but I'm not qualified to mess around with electronics/electrical systems so I'm not going to risk that.
People say you can unsolder the faulty capacitor and replace it with a new one, but I'm not qualified to mess around with electronics/electrical systems so I'm not going to risk that
Wish I knew about that before I chucked two of mine that had a click of death problem.
Wish I knew about that before I chucked two of mine that had a click of death problem.
be careful, if you going to do this,
capacitors can still keep their charge and give you a nasty shock or burn
@pinkybrain: Yep, of course. I deal with electronics and electrical work very often, and it's a number one rule of mine to discharge any caps. Recently, I had to redo an older motherboard with all of its caps, it was apart of the capacitor plague of the very early 2000's.
I just didn't even think about the P110's having a faulty cap that could possibly be a fix to the click of death.
@Goldfire: There is a Pic/Chat here on Reddit about it. These is also a "Click of Death" video, showing it in action, further up the topic.
TBH, unless one is an electronics geek with all the correct test tools, decent solder gear etc, best to just buy new better quality ones. They are cheapish these days.
@Borg: Oh cool, thanks for the link. Ironically, I have a bunch of those caps in one of my drawers. Pity I've already thrown the affected smart plugs away.
TBH, unless one is an electronics geek with all the correct test tools, decent solder gear etc
👀 Yeah, that's me
@Goldfire: Yeah & me and the reason I kept all my Kogan ones. Caps look find on "all" of them so not sure if same issue. Been too lazy to desolder and test them?
Does the job. Don't really have anything else to say which in itself is probably a good thing considering what it is.
Scheduling works fine so will do the job in your case as well.
Amazing use to turn on appliances on and off with voice assistance from Alexa. Power saving - Maybe. Fun - Absolutely. Best use case is that you can monitor your usage.
Got 3 P110 last time, $5.25 each
Was this a warehouse deal?
Nope https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/16935480/redir
Note this deal is the model up, P110M which has 'matter' compability.
This one doesn’t matter.
Note this deal is the model up, P110M which has 'matter' compability.
Yeah I know, that's why I did mention P110
Note that this is the newer version with Matter support. ATL according to the 3camels. Most likely going to sell out fast.
I've been using several of the P110M plugs for just over a year, so it's still too early to tell if these too are afflicted with the dreaded "click of death" problem that plagues the earlier Kasa and Tapo energy monitoring smart plugs (aside from the bulky supersized old models).
Ordered 2 to give go. Tuya based ones can be bad for as low as $8-9 on AlieXpress.
Think they have a dangerous issue where they only switch 1 of the poles inside
Whats that mean? I only use for low powered devices outside anyway as newer found a brand that lasts very long.
@Brick50: Interesting. Not too fussed for my use as only for stuff outside like christmas lights, bug zapper, fan etc. Most of mine are legit from bunnings, bing lee, bigw etc and even those i'd say are pretty garbage too. About half of them so far have died or shorted out which was enough for me to clear them out of the house.
Thanks got 2
Thanks got 5! Not sure why though.
Haha
I was conservative and just ordered one. Then I considered further and ordered another one.
Maybe I'll place a third order.
Thanks 4 to track my fridges and washer
Really bad idea if you don't want to burn down your house.
Thanks for heads up. Won't be using one for the washer and will be taking one to our FIRU for investigation.
What about a 1500W Portal Oil Heater?
What about with a pool pump or pool robot?
Been using one of these for pool pump awhile as the capicators in chlorinator unit went and they are near impossible to replace.
Chlorinator controls the pump speed.
Was aware that the initial power load can be a problem and these devices may go, but pump drops back to a much lower draw after a couple of minutes.
So far its lasted. But its in a location so that the risk is minimised and far away from anything other than the pool gear.
Good to know.
You could always use the plug to switch a contactor for the pool pump, but you wont get energy monitoring. But if it's worked a year it will probably work for 5 more years.
Free if you price match with jb and use perks voucher
My $10 perk expired last Monday :-(
ordered 5 for $0. Used my promotional credit I got from the failed oral b promotion.
How did you get the promo credit?
He brushed his teeth using oral b
do these have proper matter 1.3 support for home assistance?
I’ve got 4 of these
Absolutely no complaints so far
Was using them to track what was using most power around house and then use as timers for devices
The click of death seems to occur only if you use them on high power devices like fridges and microwave ovens. On a kettle they last a bit longer because it is a straight resistor but it still will happen. They are easy to repair though, it seems to be always the same capacitor which dies.
Nah not accurate. I have so many click of death on relatively low power, PC, air purifier, etc.
I was going to say it was a lottery but it is not. Just bad design and quality control. By the way, on the newer models, you don't get the current anymore.
This. Doesn't matter what you run (whether inductive loads or not), the click of death always happened eventually to my Tapo P110 and Kasa KP115 plugs. Even for something as innocuous as just turning a hard-to-reach 7W speaker on and off.
@Lepeyrol: "Easy to repair", do you have further info/repair link on that?. I have lots of older plugs (Kogan ones) that suffer same issue. I'd expect simular issue.
You can google for the video. But let's leave it as after you manage to ply it open, it won't look nice anymore.
They die on small loads too, source me. I had one plugged into maybe 300W max and most of the time maybe 15W, and it died.
These are a new model though so maybe they've fixed the issue? The problem is so much that they die when plugged in, its the way in which they fail. When they fail they constantly and rapidly cycle the relay which cannot be good for anything connected to them.
I can only say the designer is a idiot who barely pass his electrical exam.
Fail open - safe. open circuit when failed
Fail close - not safe. might kill you if you touch it
This one is special - fail clicky - kill your appliance and also kill you
Anyone have P110M model that's got the click of death? Maybe they fixed the issue, as it was quite common on the non-M (matter) version
As mentioned by some other posters, this model hasn't been in the market long enough to tell.
The older models tends to get click of death just after the 2 yr warranty.
Weren't these about $5 a couple of weeks ago?
P110 model. Same same, but different (Matter protocol support).
those were without Energy Monitoring
No, they had energy monitoring
They didn't have matter
Does it matter, never mind
Tapo TP-Link Smart Wi-Fi Socket, Smart Home Safety Protection, Energy Monitoring, Flame-Retardant, Remote & Voice Control, Schedule & Timer, Away Mode, Easy Setup (Tapo P110)
I bought 3 for $15.75
So does it having Matter support well, matter? Can only this model connect to Amazon Alexa and Google Home, while the non-M one can't or is it something else?
The non M models only work with Alexa and Google. These also work with HomeKit.
Thank you. Looks like I need to become smarter, like this plug.
I have 4 too, they are are great. Was stoked to get them on a slight markdown to $20 the other day. $10 is awesome!!
Dam. Got a few in the prime sale. Much better price.
These are good. But won't give you power monitoring in Google Home. At least, I couldn't get it going.
Is there any smart plugs working with a remote?
I think if you have a zigbee combo gateway and tuya smart plugs you can get a remote/switch and pair them or something like that.
Does this work on no internet LAN
Using these in HA and only downside is 10s power reporting vs Tuya which i can do 2s with localtuya.
I have mine set to a polling rate of 5s with this custom integration: https://github.com/petretiandrea/home-assistant-tapo-p100
You can go as low as 1s, but it wasn't needed for my use case. I use P110's mostly, but P110M is on the supported list for that integration.
I have 2 non matter ones and 2 matter ones. Had them for about 2 years now. Work's fine.
The Meross ones on the other hand, 2/2 failed. They also cover the neighbouring socket.
exact same experience, Meross was rubish. Called their support, and they do nothing as well. Tapo so far was the best smart ecosystem I got into
Yeah me too I switched to tapo ecosystem for security cameras etc too and so far it's pretty good.
There was someone in the comments last time claiming that the older fat Meross plugs didnt have the click of death issue, so your experience is the first time I've heard someone share that, thank you. It really does seem like there's no brand of smart plug that hasn't experienced the click of death after a few years. Such a crap situation all-round.
To be fair it was not a click of death issue. They simply stopped working.
Even before they had signal issues. I had to to keep re-pairing one of them to keep it working - it'd randomly go to initialsation mode and stay there. Never happened with the Tapo (non matter version) in the same place.
The oldest ones I have are Sonoff (pow series) ones that have been working for nearly 8+ years. I even had one connected to my aircon. 0 failures after having about 8 of them. They had alot of customisation options too.
That's concerning, I got two Meross Matter Mini smart plugs recently…
Your ones are the new/latest model, which allegedly does not have the click of death problem. I say allegedly, because just like the P110M this Meross Matter model has not been out long enough for us to be certain.
Parent poster was referring to the older chunky Meross plugs which are too wide to fit side-by-side with another plug on a powerboard or a double outlet.
Yes the one I bought was:
meross Smart Plug WiFi Outlet with Energy Monitor, App Remote Control, Timing Function, Compatible with Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and SmartThings, SAA & RCM Certified - 2 Pack
In 2023.
Wait aren't you the bargain radar guy?
Bought 2.
I'll figure out what to do with them later
Same. I'll figure out what to do with my other 10 smart plugs I bought through out the years.
Same bought 2.. Walked around the house thinking what to do with them. Best one I could think of is scheduled turning off of garage door motor at night lol
These are only monitors. If you are looking to get notifications for when it is being powered up such as washer or dryer, it wont notify you.
I am using android and just the Tapo App.
Good to see energy usage for the 1hr or day. Not that good for instant tracking or notfiying when the appliance is running or not.
Would be useful if they add that feature in the app.
Use case, freezer running and suddenly cuts out no power draw set with time limits etc. Or a washer dryer being used and turned off end of cycle.
I use home asssistant to send me notifications when the dryer and rice cooker finish and the power use drops.
Can i use it to power cycle my NTD when it needs to? Usually the FTTP connection drops out and never recovers until the NTD in my garage is powered off and on again.
Yes you can.
No you cant because you need the internet to use it
Absolutely. I had a similar situation with my Home Assistant PC when I was away. I could not access it all to reboot, etc. So I put it on one of these exact model plugs. Tested from my mobile app … of course not a controlled shutdown but it handles that fine and restarts normally.
They also have a setting for what happens when power is restored after an outage: Off, on or last setting. Use the latter two with caution but OK for this use case.
Seeing Simontadaa's comment, he is right. If the network is down you won't be able to access it. I have all my comms and Home Assistant on a UPS so it runs for about half an hour. But if the networks is down, a different story.
If you are at home and just don't want to walk to the garage to power it off and on again, using Matter, you should be able to power cycle the NTD.
However, if you are away from home, and NBN Internet is down at home, you won't be able to power cycle it remotely (unless you have a secondary Internet connection at home and your router switched to use that backup Internet connection).
Seems odd that your FTTP connection drops out, especially enough for you to consider using the plug on it.
Have you contacted your NBN provider to investigate a possible faulty NTD?
bought 5, and let's see what it diff from Xiaomi
bought 2, time to add new plugs to my HA :)
Dispatched dates now pushed out to 1-4 weeks
The negative reviews are saying that it only supports Matter for on/off, not power monitoring (Tapo app is OK) . Can anyone confirm this?
That’s correct. I have 2 of these and matter can be used to turn ON/OFF only. Power monitoring can be done via Tp Link or HomeAssistant only.
You don’t need a hub or anything for this? I just want it as my kid always falls asleeps with his light on