Kids TV Show Recommendations

TL;DR What are your recommendations for decent kids’ TV shows these days?

Had a funny (and slightly terrifying) chat with a workmate who’s about to become a dad for the first time. We were talking about how much his life’s about to change, sleepless nights, no peace, mysterious sticky substances on every surface, and somehow ended up reminiscing about the shows we grew up watching.

He’s already drawn a hard line against iPads, YouTube Kids and the usual offenders like Cocomelon and Ms Rachel. Apparently, he and his partner have agreed that if their kid's going to watch TV, it’ll be something actually made for kids, not just algorithm bait that turns toddlers into screen junkies. He called Cocomelon “baby crack”, and honestly, based on what I saw when I had a quick look, he's not wrong.

They’re leaning towards old-school Aussie stuff like Play School, which we both remembered from our own childhoods. At least that’s something with real human interaction and not a wall of CGI chaos designed to keep little brains overstimulated. He said he’s not trying to be a helicopter parent, but he also doesn’t want his child glued to an iPad or developing a five-second attention span from what he calls “brain-rotting” shows.
He reckons he and his wife have been “researching” and found very few shows that weren’t filled with American rubbish or locked behind a streaming paywall. Their current shortlist: Play School, Bluey, and Paw Patrol. Everything else he said was either repetitive, headache-inducing, or was just straight-up rubbish.

That sent us down memory lane, Inspector Gadget, the OG Thomas the Tank Engine, Bananas in Pyjamas, Round the Twist, Beetlejuice, back when TV was a treat, not a substitute parent. You’d catch a few episodes before dinner, and that was it. No autoplay, no ads trying to sell you toys, and no algorithm deciding what you should enjoy next. It made me realise how different things are now. Kids today have endless content at their fingertips, but half of it’s just noise. And honestly, as much as I love technology, I can see why parents get twitchy about what their kids are exposed to. The line between “educational entertainment” and “passive consumption” is pretty blurry.

So now I’m curious: for all the parents (and even cool aunts/uncles) on OzB, what kids’ shows actually pass these days? What’s something you’d actually sit through without wanting to lob the remote through the TV?

I’m not a parent myself (and not in any rush), but I was genuinely stumped when my mate asked if I knew of any good shows for kids. Judging by what’s out there, it feels like Bluey is carrying the entire industry on its back.

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  • -5

    6 - 7

    • +2

      Brain rot

  • +4

    rugrats

  • +2

    Support their choice and those suggested are great, as are old classics.

    Older content not only offers the standard faire of values, literacy, numeracy etc but the opportunity for parent-child bonding over shared experiences. Sounds wishy-washy but kids enjoy watching old stuff and parents reminiscing

  • +4

    Anything on ABC Kids. It's free, it's age appropriate and there are no ads.

  • +1

    Best thing is human interaction for the first years anyway. A school counsellor told me they are constantly advising less screen time to the multitudes of kids with anxiety and limited social skills.
    Australian Department of Health recommend: infants younger than 2 have no screen time, children aged 2-5 have no more than one hour per day.

    • I think that’s their worries.

  • -1

    Some of the suggestions above I'd stay away from…

    Roger Ramjet his our hero of our nation… 😭

    Mostly cartoons
    Voltron Legendary Defender netflix edition
    Mysterious cities of gold, both classic and new edition
    Banana Man, Eric at 29 Acacia Road 🍌
    Widget
    Captain Planet
    Samurai Pizza Cats
    TMNT Turtles classic edition
    Galaxy Rangers
    Spellbinders, both stories!
    Ocean girl
    Tintin
    Mortimer and Blake
    Sonic the hedgehog, Sonic SatAM
    Dragon Prince netflix edition
    Thundercats classic and new
    Conan the adventurer
    Aladdin and spinoffs
    King Arthurs Disasters
    Avatar and Legend of Korra

    There's loads more, some I may of missed from 80s/90s and after 🙉

    • Some of the suggestions above I'd stay away from…

      Which ones and why?

      • I haven't seen many of the shows posted 😂 and obviously people grow up in different eras with limited availability, and that has changed greatly with almost unlimited availability now. From the ones I have seen, eg I'd never introduce to my kids, shows like the Brady Bunch, Full House, etc I find these shows equivalent to Home and Away and Neighbors, and other tv soaps that are just garbage time wasting. Even I lot of game shows are time wasting. Hosting shows like Hey Hey it's Saturday. Didn't see the point. Personally I've spent some time on some of these shows and I feel like you can do so much more than get consumed by useless never ending tripe.

        I respect that people have their owns interests and choose what they wanna watch, but you can travel, engage with your kids interests, eg (board games, video games, hobbies), go outside, play sports, excursions, help them with homework, listen to podcasts, read/listen audio books, play, etc. There literally is a wealth of entertainment at your feet.

        Good hunting!

    • Holy crappola! I didnt know there were 3 more recent (besides 1980s) for MCOG! Literally just finished watching the originals with my kids.

      • +1

        I think 🤔 there is 3 or 4 seasons of the new show and it's overall good, but the last season sadly that I know of since I last checked sometime back has not been translated with subtitles but I could be wrong…

  • +3

    A bit too much nostalgia in this thread. Some of the shows we watched in the 80s/90s/2000s still hold up, but without the rose-coloured glasses, a lot of them sucked.

    Some of these are for older kids, but the best kids shows that parents also love, including newer ones, are:

    Ages 3+

    • Bluey
    • Peppa Pig

    Ages 5+

    • Avatar the Last Airbender
    • Gravity Falls
    • New Ducktales
    • Phineas and Ferb
    • Owl House
    • Amphibia

    Ages 7+

    • Infinity Train
    • Adventure time
    • Gumball
    • Korra
    • Over the Garden Wall
    • Dragon Prince
    • Dr Stone

    Old Ducktales, and 1980s Astroboy are some of the best 80s/90s shows but my kids were bored even by those. The kids who grew up on them are making even better shows today.

    • +1

      OP this is a good post… this guy parents!

    • Ooh a couple of major omissions in the ages 3+ (sorry my kids are teens now, I forgot) but:

      Ages 3+

      • Daniel Tiger
      • Charlie and Lola

      …are really great at teaching and modelling good behaviour in kids.

      Daniel Tiger especially made me a better parent by showing some excellent parenting skills, just like Bluey does.

      • +1

        Surely ol' SpongeBob SquarePants deserves a mention (for more of the 5+/7+ category). Haven't seen him talked about in the entire thread so far

    • +1

      I was just thinking about Agro and then you turned up…

  • I got my 5 year old into the magic school bus from the 90s

    • 😲

    • I got my 5 year old into the magic school bus

      What's he doing in there? Hopefully he hasn't been abducted by Ms Frizzle.

    • got my 5 year old into the magic school bus from the 90

      Do the TV episode titles correspond with any of the book titles?

      Excellent way to encourage and engage young readers.

  • -5

    Anything from the 90s and 00s. It's pretty easy to download old stuff we grew up with.

    Unfortunately everything made today runs that chance of having woke ideology snuck into it. That includes play school which has done some questionable things lately.

    • -3

      Anything from the 90s and 00s.

      A lot of the that stuff also contained a fair bit of propaganda. E.g. Captain Planet

      • +1

        Yeah thats true but at least it wasn't telling you biology is a feeling and be ashamed of western history

      • +2

        Captain Planets message was very much one of Anti Pollution. Pollution is still bad for you, nobody goes to those Chinese cities covered in smog and thinks "Thank god I'm able to enjoy this harmless pollution free of propaganda"

        • -1

          Oh yes. Why didn't I think of that? China's pollution problem is clearly due to a lack of Chinese captions for Captain Planet in the 90s. I suppose LA's smog problem was solved because they did have Captain Planet? /s

          • +2

            @tenpercent: Why even waste your time typing that, the question was how is being anti pollution "PROPAGANDA"

  • +1

    Growing up, I used to watch at least 1-2 hours of TV, mostly animated stuff on weekdays, and on weekends additionally play video games for 2-3 hours. We had no such concept of "screen time" back then. This is after I started school, as I don't remember what I did before school. Point is, I am fairly ok financially, nice career with decent pay, a nice family, no eye issues (not even glasses), have a fair amount of friends. I get that if a kid who can't control their urges and gets hooked to excessive screen time may not be healthy but I don't see screen time as inherently "evil". Use common sense and don't frightened by the fear mongering of screen time. For a future, when tech is going to be the way of life, wrapping the kid in a "no screen" world feels counter intuitive. Let the kids have screen time and make them responsible to not get addicted, help prepare them, than detach them completely

    • as I don't remember what I did before school

      😨

  • +5

    as someone once said- "Everyone has a plan, till they get hit in the face". And I believe same applies to raising toddlers.
    Most things on ABC iView are quite good. Not sure what he has against Ms Rachel, apart from maybe her political views, which aren't discussed in her shows.
    iView has a whole range of Julie Donaldson book-inspired shows. and I believe they are great, but more suited to 2-3+

    • +1

      My kid loved those Julia Donaldson shows like Superworm and Stickman! A phase of always hearing I'm Stickman, I'm Stickman, that's me

  • +2

    Paw Patrol and a couple of similar ones, but especially Paw Patrol has been banned at our place, it always seemed to trigger really poor behaviour from our kids. Likely because its overly dramatic for the entirety of the show. Beware the shows that always seem to have an 'Emergency'.

    Bluey legit is one of my favourite shows of all time, possibly Australia's greatest TV show.

    The Lego series of shows have been pretty good.

    Play Lunch is a quirky Aussie show.

    And yeah a few of the older ones are pretty good if you can find them.

    • +1

      Paw Patrol has been banned at our place, it always seemed to trigger really poor behaviour from our kids.

      Damn is it really bad is it? That was one of the first ones he mentioned, said it looked like the only half decent show other than Bluey out there.

      • +1

        yes it is absolutely that bad.
        As is Rusty Rivets after season 1 and pretty much any other Nickelodean show.
        Until they are over 5, tell your mate if he sees that orange logo to stop the show right there.
        And yes that includes Dora the Explorer ;)

      • For our kids and from hearing from other parents yeah it feels common.
        I think part of the issue is the episodes just keep playing, which is a fault of ours at times, but having watched some it does have this thing of always being on edge.

        Outside of shows, we give the kids a warning that it was either the last episode of 5 minutes to go, making sure they acknowledge this has meant less grumpy kids when the TV goes off.

        • I think part of the issue is the episodes just keep playing

          Is this through streaming is it? I think his idea was free to air on the Nick and Channel 10 channels.

          but having watched some it does have this thing of always being on edge.

          What do you mean by this?

          Also a good suggestion re the 5 minutes warning.

          • @HamBoi69: Doesn't matter if paid or free to air, most will start the next episode automatically. There are probably some settings that could be changed to prevent or lessen though. I am pretty sure ABC iView will stop after a certain amount of time to check if its still being watched.

            The on edge thing is about the show always having an emergency to attend to, i found the formatting of some shows, esp Paw Patrol, will often have more than one big event happen and that being on edge of whether they'll 'save the day' seems to create some anxiety and maybe that causes some of the crankiness.
            I know there is also some stuff in relation to colour saturation, fast screen changes and fast talking that also create this feeling.

            On another note we also avoid Peppa Pig, mainly because most of the characters are dicks.

            We're far from perfect with the TV and probably let them watch too much at times, but we also found it good for giving them rest times after big active days.
            If you can avoid iPads as long as possible, we didn't use them until we went on a long driving holiday and they haven't been used since. But I know they can good for others and I've certainly become less bothered by those that use them when out and about.

            • @Unripechips:

              Doesn't matter if paid or free to air, most will start the next episode automatically.

              True. But I think his idea is he'll record the episodes and then have them on demand for the kids to watch via the TV TopBox instead.

              Surely Paw Patrol doesn't make kids cranky. The “on edge” feeling is part of normal storytelling tension, helping them learn problem-solving and emotional control, no? The bright colours and quick pacing are meant to keep young kids engaged, not anxious. It’s usually too much screen time, not the show itself, that causes irritability.

              On another note we also avoid Peppa Pig, mainly because most of the characters are dicks.

              Agreed lol

              • +1

                @HamBoi69: Yeah too much is definitely the worse thing, but there are 'tricks' used to make these shows addictive like the colour display and action sequences and for us and speaking with other parents, Paw Patrol sticks out as the worst for this. The on edge element seems to be for 80% of the show taking away any of the story telling or development etc.

                • @Unripechips: That’s a fair point, but I’d still say (from my research), Paw isn’t really “addictive” in a harmful sense, it’s just designed to match preschool attention spans. The quick pacing and bright colours are tools to keep kids engaged long enough to follow the simple problem–solution structure. Even if the action feels constant, it still reinforces teamwork, responsibility, and positive resolution, the core storytelling is there, just delivered faster to suit younger viewers.

        • +1

          The 5min warning works wonders for our kids too, and making sure they ackwowledge me, so i get the "Yessssss fine…."

          And this goes for everything, like before bedtime to brush teeth, leaving the swimming pool, leaving a playground… :)

  • +1

    Ask your AI.

    I grew up in Europe and we had translated shows like Skippy……

  • +1

    If you have another language/culture, try to get kids experiencing those kids show over English as they will find it harder to pick up the language later on.

    Also we managed to fight ipad temptation with restricted usage of Khan Academy Kids/Duolingo

    Shows that worked/still watch for young kids (1-4 years old) - most shows are from Youtube unless specified - more from current era than other people's nostalgia blast

    Learning about songs, abc's, 123's etc
    Earlier episodes of Miss Rachel before too many flashy animations/scene changes in newer episodes
    Miss Moni (Australia represent!)
    Super Simple Songs
    Miss Caitie's Classroom
    Wiggles (earlier songs/episodes, we don't resonate well with recent tree of wisdom music/choreography)
    Alpha/Number blocks (ABC Kids)
    Mister Maker (special points if you remember Art Attack)

    **** Blippi/Meekah when they visit an aquarium/zoo type of place to learn animals. Avoid those indoor playground ones.. note watching just one of these throws out the algorithm and loads up brain rot crap

    Found to be better suited around 3 years old ++ found these shows are more like intro to cartoons than actual learning (even though some themes are great)

    Bluey - ABC Kids
    Peppa Pig - ABC Kids
    Sago Mini Friends - Apple TV (watch in your native language)
    Stillwater - Apple TV (watch in your native language)
    Doug Unplugs - Apple TV (watch in your native language)
    Episode 1 of Wondla for the baby part - Apple TV (only half the episode before the Alien/shooting part)

    Learning about real life in cartoon form
    Daniel's Tiger Neighbourhood (ABC Kids)
    Jo Jo and Gran Gran
    Fizzy and Suds (ABC Kids)
    Sesame Street/Elmo's World (older episodes are better)

    Movies that are favourites so far (broken up watching 10 mins at a time lol)
    Coco (Disney)
    Ponyo (Studio Ghibli)
    Finding Dory/Nemo (Disney)

    We have many shows that we are continuing reviewing/watching (I watch alot of shows!) Probably missing some hope this helps

    • Nice suggestions, are these all shows you’ve watched yourself or that your kids watched?

      • +1

        I'm still a big kid at heart so all shows I have watched/vetted in entirety. My kid is still ~4 years old so still reviewing watching all these new shows

        Never left kid alone to watch a show (because they are at the age they can read and youtube tries to sneak in those Cocomelon type recommendations)

        Really recommend everything in my list

        • Nice! Thanks!

        • all shows I have watched/vetted in entirety… Never left kid alone to watch a show

          Well done. That's good parenting!

  • +6

    I never post on Ozbargain but this post resonated with me and I can't help myself.

    I know you just asked for a list of shows, and I’ll get to that in a moment but your friend is better served by some advice… and as a new parent he will get plenty, whether he asks for it or not. First here’s the list:

    Below 5, safe for anyone:
    - Bluey
    - Puffin Rock
    - Octonauts
    - Craig of the Creek

    That's it.
    That's the whole list…

    Anything else has more negatives than positive.

    Paw patrol should absolutely NOT be on your friend’s list.
    Neither should any other nickelodeon show.

    Peppa Pig should be off limits until at least 5 depending on the child.
    Peppa is a lousy role model and certain children will fall into emulation very quickly… new parents ignore that advice at their peril and regret it when their kid stars acting exactly like Peppa. This happens with Bluey as well but she’s an objectively better role model and the pros outweigh the cons. Due to vastly superior writing and episode structure Bluey’s character growth in any given episode is threaded through the whole episode (mostly, there are some pretty woeful exceptions to this) so children watching an average Bluey episode get a real lesson on character growth rather than an ineffectual 90% “little shit” 10% “my bad” episode that’s typical for most US shows.

    And here’s the advice… if you want to do your friend a real solid, just send him this whole post.

    As a new parent your friend will quickly notice how diplomatic people are about parenting advice… everyone is at great pains to stress that every child is different and there's no right or wrong answer and you just need to do what's best for your family. But for this specific issue there is a right answer.

    Humans become a composite of who they spend time with… the mental health and emotional intelligence of our children is now being shaped by a what, not a who… and the what is "content"… and most of it is garbage. People like your friend who notice this and want to avoid it turn to older shows which is a good call but you need to check them first.
    The problem with older shows is that they are not structured for young minds. The runtimes are often too long and despite our collective nostalgia older shows are often filled with product placement and poor role modelling… we don’t remember it but it’s there.

    I personally spent hundreds… and I do mean hundreds of hours watching and rewatching TV shows before my first child was 3… we stuck to the no screen time rule like glue… and I made an informed decision about what content I let my children consume… and there wasn’t much that made the cut.

    I don't expect everyone to do that… but that's the answer. If your friend can’t spend the time to rewatch everything then surely him or his partner can find an hour or 2 to (re)watch the first 2-5 episodes of any given show before he lets the kids watch it… honestly most kids shows are so short you can watch them on a commute, a lunch break or a workout session. Hell you can get through 2 blueys in one session on the throne if you didn’t eat enough fibre for breakfast. If he’s really interested in being a good parent, he should watch each show with them and discuss each episode afterwards.

    And just to be clear I’m no helicopter parent… all 3 of my kids had been to the ER multiple times with fractures or breaks from playgrounds, scooters etc before they were 10. I asked myself if I was helicoptering every time an otherwise solid looking show annoyed me and I took it off my list. I died a little bit inside each time as the list got smaller and smaller and I questioned whether I was overreacting or being too heavy handed. I remembered being a child and watching 100s of hours of TV and movies and I turned out ok.

    But then I decided my goal as a parent is to do better for my kids than was done by me, so I stuck with it… my oldest kid is 11 and i STILL pre-screen any movie that's not G that I haven't personally seen in the last couple of years. I strayed from that rule ONCE when my middle child turned 8 and begged me for Jurassic Park. I relied on my memories… but I forgot how scary some parts of that movie can be for some people. My 5 year old and 10 year old? No worries… but my 8 year old? the one who begged me? We had no idea that the idea of being EATEN by a CREATURE was genuinely terrifying for her… and SEEING it happen to Neuman on screen put her off live action movies for 3 years.

    So… parents, pre screen your content.
    A responsible parent generally wouldn’t leave their child with an unknown person, no matter how “good” the “referral” was… so why leave them with an unknown show or movie?

    And that’s the only “right” answer… for a child under 10, your friend should pre watch anything he’s considering letting them watch and filter it based on his own values, level of comfort and parenting goals.

    If he doesn’t have time for any of that, then he can just use my list above.
    Or if I sound like a pretentious (profanity) then the post from "ItsMeAgro" is also pretty good.

    • Wow. Thanks for the detailed comment. I’ll get him to have a read lol.

      Paw patrol should absolutely NOT be on your friend’s list. Neither should any other nickelodeon show.

      Why is this, if you don’t mind me asking?

      • +2

        Before I comment on Paw Patrol I just wanted to say my wife just berrated me because I forgot Sarah and Duck on my original list… that show is a bloody gem and belongs on my original list in between Bluey and Puffin Rock. My wife also suggested reminding your friend that before 5 the kids won't watch a lot of content so why not make sure it's great… not just good, but really great. Which is a good segway to Paw Patrol…

        Here's why Paw Patrol didn't make the cut for us personally.. and in it's defence I only watched about 5 episodes before I cut it so maybe it gets better but I don't care - see my wife's comment above.

        1. It's a toy commercial. That's why it exists.. to sell toys… which you can't even buy anymore. If you think sitting through the show is bad wait until your kid wants a Chase action figure they don't make anymore.

        2. More importantly though, as a byproduct of the above - it's just not very good. The characters are shallow and one dimensional, the plots are simple and repetitive with no real narrative depth or character arcs.

        The next points are all absolutely YMMV and will depend on where your friend sits on the social/political spectrum, but for us:

        1. Poor gender role modeling. 2/3 kids for us are girls so we're not keen on a show where there are not many female characters and the dudes get all the props.

        2. There's an undertone of authoritarianism to the show. Cops are awesome and can do no wrong, doing what they say is always the right choice… we felt Paw Patrol encourages dogmatic obedience over any real individuality or critical thinking.

        • Ok. Valid points, but this all just a kids show at the end of the day? The toy part is true, but you could argue the same about Bluey etc.

          Don’t you want a simple plot for under 6’s? Anything too complex and they’ll likely not understand what they’re watching anyway.

          Agree on gender part. I didn’t know about that, just going off what he said.

          As for the authoritarianism, it’s just a kids show though? Again, not a parent myself and never seen it, but from what he said and an outsider perspective, that’s my thoughts.

          • +1

            @HamBoi69: My niece spoke in an English/cockney accent from the ages of 2 to 4.
            We couldn't for the life of us figure out where it had come from, all the people in her life that she interacted with every day had an Australian accent and was growing up in Victoria at the time.
            It was baffling but she continued with it and didn't understand when we asked why she was saying things a certain way.

            At 4 we finally figured it out … she saw 20 minutes of Thomas The Tank Engine a fortnight.
            Somehow that factored more into her speech development than the entire rest of her life.

            The thing is you have no idea what little brains latch onto, but when they latch on, they can latch on HARD.
            Most kids probably watch way more than that and come away with no change to speech, why did it happen here? No idea!

            There's no such as "it's just a kids show", the things they watch are incredibly informative to them, kids are little sponges taking in everything around them.

            I'll echo the advice of many here in that Paw Patrol and Peppa Pig are terrible for kids, they impart poor behaviour that kids absolutely pick up on.

            Bluey is definitely the best and I'd be wary about watching things from a nostalgia perspective, tycho has explain why much better than I could!

            • @Drow:

              My niece spoke in an English/cockney accent from the ages of 2 to 4.

              Not exactly the worst accent to have.

              There's no such as "it's just a kids show", the things they watch are incredibly informative to them, kids are little sponges taking in everything around them.

              Good point, again I don't have kids, so thinking like that isn't as embedded in me as it is for parents. I guess being older, I just do and don't second-guess things.

              I'll echo the advice of many here in that Paw Patrol and Peppa Pig are terrible for kids, they impart poor behaviour that kids absolutely pick up on.

              I get the Pepper Pig one. Promotes obesity, but I still don't get the Paw Patrol view. I'm defending it because my mate seemed so deadset on it, mentioned his siblings’ kids watch it and they recommended it to him. Maybe they're all wrong and I just can't see the issues lol.

          • @HamBoi69: Your points are also valid but I'd counter as follows:

            The toys for Bluey came well after it's launch. Same with Octonauts.

            You can usually tell the difference between a show that was so good it spun off some toys (like Octonauts) and a show that was designed to sell toys (like Paw Patrol). You can see this in most average 80's cartoons that were just made to sell toys - GI Joe, Transformers, M.A.S.K, Care Bears, My Little Pony etc.

            Plots can be simple but still creative and unique… I mean look at Bluey. It's literally just slice of life but every episode is unique. Contrast that to something like Paw Patrol or the less offensive Rusty Rivets and the difference is obvious.

            In terms of complexity, it's all about what the individual kid can handle but people generally underestimate how smart kids are and what they can or can’t keep track of. My first child got the worst of my pre screening but 2 and 3 got to watch a lot of stuff earlier and at 6 both of them preferred shows with long, satisfying narrative arcs like Avatar TLA, Kipo, Gravity Falls, Owl House, Hilda, Voltron/SheRa (reboots, not originals) etc.

            The authoritarianism thing is just us personally… if I wanted to double down on how crazy I no doubt sound I'd say we want to raise critical thinkers, not cogs for the dehumanising machine that is capitalism. But the truth is I didn't like that aspect of it and there were shows without it.

            So yeah it’s just a kids show.. but there are plenty that DON’T suck so why not pick them instead? That was our attitude anyway.

            • @tychocaine: That’s fair, but from what I’ve gathered through my own research (I haven’t actually watched the show myself, just going off what my friend told me and what I’ve read on here), PAW Patrol seems to get written off a bit unfairly for being “just to sell toys.” Plenty of shows that started out as toy lines, like as you mentioned, Transformers being the big example, still turned out to be genuinely good and meaningful. PAW Patrol is obviously aimed at a much younger audience, so the simple, repetitive structure and bright visuals make sense for its age group. Not every show has to be Bluey to do its job well.

        • Intro for Sarah and Duck is hilarious. So dry.
          And PP doesn't get better. It's all the same. https://www.reddit.com/r/DanielTigerConspiracy/comments/1nwn…

    • +1

      This is a really great post.

      There is certainly more shows out there that are good, but at that under 3-5 mark having just a few options is probably a good thing.

      Weirdly watching a few movies with scary parts in them (not quite JP) has been interesting with our kids and mostly positive, they are recognising they are scared and taking themselves out of the situation, either asking us to stop or walking away for a while. Glad their both not desensitised and able recognise their feelings.

      On a separate note(!) something my brother has done with there kids is let them watch concerts or people playing music (rather than music videos) and had a great time wanting play different instruments and use their voice. Not every show has to be kids specific and a cartoon.

    • +1

      Agree with peppa pig and paw patrol, more negative than positive. Paw patrol is loud and obnoxious.

      +5000 for any pre-screening content

      • Paw patrol is loud and obnoxious

        How so? My mate was pretty deadset on having it as a choice, so any advice I can pass back on, as to why it’s not good is appreciated.

    • Well done. This is parenting done right!

      May I ask, did you have a structured approach to creating your list of allowable content? Did you use any checklists to be systematic about it? Did you exclude entire series if only some episodes were not appropriate? You included Bluey in your list but later noted some negatives of Bluey. How did you weight the good versus the bad so that Bluey made the cut?

      • +1

        I didn't have a structured approach but I kept a spreadsheet… Honestly the good ones are obvious from a single episode and a couple more only confirm it.

        Octonauts and Puffin Rock I had already seen 5-10 episodes through a few years of babysitting nieces and nephews so those two were a no brainer. Sarah and Duck was obvious from 1-2 episodes. Bluey I’ll talk about after I answer your other question.

        I didn't have a formalised checklist but for me the things I was looking for were (and again this is for age 2-5).
        - short run time
        - positive lessons and role models
        - interesting characters with real emotions, demonstrating emotional intelligence
        - respectful interactions between all characters, no "nemesis" or reoccurring antagonist
        - no teasing, bullying etc.
        - no shows with stories that are 90% bad behaviour and 10% “lets learn a lesson” at the end.
        - no talking down to the audience… I wanted good tv shows that just happened to be aimed at kids, not "kids shows".

        Originally, I didn't pre-watch Bluey.
        I listened to other parents… and I watched it with my son.

        And I can't for the life of me remember which episode it was but there was an episode within the first 10 that made me turn it off and ban it… Bluey was a turd burger and her behaviour was garbage… the way she treated her sister and parents was terrible and the way everyone just put up with her behaviour annoyed me. I was already on the fence because the show often breaks my 6th (90/10 ratio) rule, so she was done.

        My son begged me to bring it back so I watched every episode of the first and second season and decided on balance that there was more good than bad and by that point he was 5 and my second was 3 so I let them both watch it. I still hate the hammerbarn episode and some of Bluey’s behaviour annoys me but episodes like the dead bird, camping and the miscarriage one are some of the best writing that’s ever been on a show… not just a kids show, a show. To compress that much emotional impact into 6 minutes is masterful, and I believe our children are enriched by the experience of watching Bluey…

        That’s how I feel anyway.. maybe someone will pop up in the comments and say “Paw Patrol made my kids better human beings” but I doubt it 😉

  • +1

    That's it.
    That's the whole list…

    Anything else has more negatives than positive.

    Curious to know what's wrong with Hey Duggee, Tumble Leaf and Ready, Steady, Wiggle tbh

    • Ok sorry for the long post… it's just that this is genuinely a topic that I take seriously and I find most other parents are super flippant about it. I said above that yeah these are just kids shows but I feel like raising my kids is literally the most important thing I'll ever do so I take it pretty seriously.

      I don't think there's anything objectively "wrong" with Hey Duggee… you just have to see my comments through the lens of a couple of parameters.

      1. We're talking about a new dad with his first kid… this discussion is about screen time presumably for a 2-5 year old. For my family at that age we were capping it at 10-15 mins a day and that's it… that's only 60-90 hours per year of content. Most kids will rewatch stuff they like so it's not hard to fill that bucket.

      2. If you're digging for treasure and you have a small bucket, you only put the absolute best stuff in it. The gold coins (Hey Duggee) might look pretty good but the rare gems (Bluey, Sarah & Duck etc) take priority.

      3. As a family watching a tv show or movie is something we do with mindfulness. When we turn the TV on it's to watch something specific… not just to kill time. We don't even have a TV antenna.

      Which is to say that we're only watching a limited amount of stuff so we can afford to be incredibly picky. If someone wants to plant their kid in front of the TV for 2 hours a day then they'll clear my list pretty quickly and will need more suggestions.. yours are absolutely inoffensive and not objectively bad.

      If you're curious about why HD didn't make the cut for us it was mainly just because as a couple my wife and I are more interested in intrinsic rewards and motivation and we didn't like the badge system in HD. Don't get me wrong, HD does a great job of focusing on the intrinsic rewards of any given task but for us the badges tipped it out of great and into good… there's enough performing like a circus seal for a gold star once they get into school and then broader society… we didn't want to get them focused on external acknowledgements of reward any earlier than we had to.

      With Ready Steady Wiggle… it's not BAD but there are better options. our first 2 kids found the colours and sounds overstimulating and the babytalk condescending so we never tried with the 3rd kid. But again, my kids aren't your kids so YMMV… there's nothing inherently wrong with RSW… there were just better options for us.

      I have to confess Tumble Leaf I've never seen before… not sure how it slipped through my net but it looks good! I will check it out over the weekend and see if it's worth showing my youngest - thanks for the lead.

      The other factor is that because we limit the content we watch, that list lasts a few years and then they're old enough for (depending on your kids) the really good stuff. Gravity Falls, Amphibia, Owlhouse, Kipo, Wakfu, Avatar/Korra, Voltron/SheRa, Star Vs The Forces of Evil, Steven Universe, Hilda, MLP, HTTYD, the nine relams, trollhunters, etc, etc…

      Look I know I sound like a crazy helicopter parent but I'm not…. we're not ruthlessly curtailing what our kids watch or do… we're closer to free range than helicopter… what I let my kids do from 8 upwards would probably chill the blood of most parents in this thread who think I sound like I've wrapped them in cotton wool.

      And I know I sound like a jerk but if someone wants to say to me "hey I've watched your list and I'm out of stuff, where can I turn to next" then there are plenty of good options… you suggested some and I've watched lots of others. But I will argue with my dying breath that there's no better options for kids under 5 to spend their first 50-100 hours of tv watching than with the 4 shows I originally suggested, and I'll go to my grave thinking that applies to any western kid from a first world country.

      It's not that other things are bad… it's that those 4 shows are just THAT good…. and that's enough.

  • +3
    Suggested Octonauts

    Octonauts is fantastic. Educational without being cringe about it. Excellent role modelling (team work, kindness, helpfulness, overcoming fears, etc).

    OG series is better than Above and Beyond IMO, but both are better than most other options.

    • +1

      Agree, ditto Go Jetters, esp. the early ones where they're at monuments/sites etc.

      There's a tremendous amount of good kids tv about. Its generally far better than the old stuff we grew up with imo.

      • Yeah FR. My kids loved Go Jetters too. And The Deep once they were a bit older.

        I'm not that much of a TV person, but looking at what I watched as a kid, vs what's around now from the perspective of a parent, now definitely has better options (though you have to be careful because there is equally a lot of junk).

  • +2
    Suggested Numberblocks

    Numberblocks is great, bonus points for being educational.

  • +1

    My kids are enjoying The InBESTigators, which seems to be a very sensible show when you see the amount of trash out there. With the family - Modern Family. Recently watching some Steve Irwin crocodile hunter and the kids loved it.

  • +1

    Don't overlook the many great nature/wildlife shows.
    All three of my kids would ask for them in preference to cartoons when they were little.

    Just make sure you prewatch them, as I assume you may want to avoid the leopard munching on the gazelle until they're a little older.

  • Ulysses 31. Sneaky backdoor way to get them into Greek mythology.

  • -1

    Dr Binocs

  • +1

    •Monkey! (Magic)
    •Mysterious Cities of Gold
    •Astro Boy
    •Ulysses 31
    •The Henderson Kids 1&2
    •Battle of The Planets (G-Force)
    •Pugwall
    •The Ratties
    •Secret Valley
    •Into the Labyrinth
    •Beneath the Mountain
    •Chocky & Chocky's Challenge
    •The Tripods
    •Children of Green Knowe

    • Battle of The Planets (G-Force)

      Finally, thank you! Best damn opening ever. Gave me chills when it came on.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acOnskcyrtA

      Teen Titans Go and Fairly Odd Parents are great shows. Happy Tree Friends and Drawn Together are very bad shows lol.

  • +1

    Just look up low stimulation shows for kids. The rest are all baby crack designed to hype up the brain chemicals. Never ever let your kid watch youtube unattended because the algorithm that plays the next clip is not interested in the best thing for your child and can link to the most god awful toy opening, fake toy shows, counterfeit videos in a never ending loop if you let it.

  • +1
    Suggested Ben and Holly's Little Kingdom

    He’s already drawn a hard line against iPads, YouTube Kids and the usual offenders like Cocomelon and Ms Rachel.

    Good luck to them on the commendable idea but it is entirely possible the kids will see it in childcare or at their friend's homes.

  • +2

    Based off a long ass dissection of cocomelon I saw on YT, tell you friend to count the cuts in TV shows, if there is cut every 2-4 seconds, it's probably going to destroy attention
    spans.

  • 'Ben & Holly's Little Kingdom' for kids and adults.

  • +1

    Whats the issue with Ms Rachel? She’s in no way comparable to Cocomelon.

    • I don’t know, that was only his words.

  • +1

    Mister Rogers' Neighborhood (the original show that Daniel Tiger's Neighbourhood is based on) is certainly worth looking at, being one of the most highly acclaimed children's shows ever produced.

    The catch is that it's very distinctively American (it was never aired outside the US) and late 20th-century. It's also very slow-paced, with each episode being about 28 minutes in a weekly, episodic format that's intended to be watched one episode per day, per weekday.

    You can watch or download almost every single episode produced on the Internet Archive, but if that's too inconvenient, the official website hosts 5 different weekly episodes every 3 weeks or so.

    I'd generally recommend the episodes that were released from 1979 to 2001, as they are much more refined, palatable to modern audiences, and straight-to-the-point than the many episodes of the original run from the late 60s to mid-70s (unless you feel like giving your kids even more of a history lesson and are hungry for more Brady Bunch-era nostalgia).

    • *Also, I meant 'weekly, serialised format,' not episodic.

  • Apple TV+ - Stillwater, Shape Island, Sago Mini Friends, my four year old loves them and they are so much better than the other garbage (obviously Bluey is awesome)

    • +1

      Stillwater is probably one of the best shows available.

      My eldest really enjoys the moral that comes with each episode and my youngest is able to follow along with the slow calm and steady pace.

      Perfect for a wind me down before jumping into bed with books.

  • +1

    My kids don’t watch tv. They are 13 and 14 now.
    We occasionally watch a family movie.
    It’s peaceful not having the tv on all the time, even when they aren’t home I forget to turn it on most of the time.

    Even sesame st has cgi now. Poor Bert and Ernie and play school through the window is animated.
    I would suggest old programs. Old episodes of play school and Sesame Street, sooty, lamb chop, bindi the jungle girl showed lots of animals.

  • Watch Duckula. The English they used is better than the rubbish paw patrol

    • What makes paw rubbish? Is it bad English?

  • -3

    Anything from the 90s and 00s. It's pretty easy to download old stuff we grew up with.

    Unfortunately everything made today runs that chance of having woke ideology snuck into it. That includes play school which has done some questionable things lately.

  • I might speak more from my observations as working with kids (granted, the age group that I worked with were older than 5 at least). Just, something I noticed while working with children that I thought were interesting.

    My personal view is that it's probably harder nowadays to really limit your child's exposure to things that might be negative. With all the terrible things online and everything it's hard to find something that's suitable. Even the ones that are suitable, I found that it can easily go down the route of problematic usage with kids.

    I have noticed that there are significantly different views with screen time and what is appropriate for a child. I honestly think it's more how those views are implemented in the parenting style. If you can support your children to develop good routine, understand that there are things portrayed in the media that's portrayed certain ways etc, I think that'd be a better protective factor than straight out ruling something out (especially given how easily a child can access things that they are not supposed to have access to).

    Teaching and working with the child will obviously have to be in line with where the child is in terms of their development (try to get a child to understand a complex topic requires both their cognitive skills and their willingness to learn).

    I guess what I am trying to say, while digressing a lot is, I think it's more how the kids learn to process and understand things that seemed to matter more.

  • OP, try looking into "low stim", since the pacing of the show is one of the biggest factors in how bad it is for kids' mental health (ignoring the content/ideology factor).

    There tended to be more low-stim shows a few decades ago, there are fewer around today (but there are some).

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