Seagate Expansion 3TB Desktop Hard Drive USB 3.0 $109 from OfficeWorks
Cheapest Staticice listing is $139 at JBHIFI
Product Details:
The deal will most likely expire on the 1/7.
What speed are the drives in these?
Skid posted this at:
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/108328
"Have bought 3 drives:
ST3000DM003 (5900rpm) from OW with these details on the box:
STBV3000300
DOM of 12/2012
Product of Thailand(HDD)
Assembled in China.
ST3000DM001 (7200rpm) from OW with these details on the box:
STBV3000300
DOM of 4/2013
Product of China(HDD)
Assembled in China.
ST3000DM001 (7200rpm) from DSE with these details on the box:
STBV3000300
DOM of 8/2012
Product of China(HDD)
Assembled in China.
Looks like the Thailand made drives are 5900rpm and the Chinese made ones are 7200rpm."
A review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5042/seagates-new-barracuda-3t…
Product Website:
http://www.seagate.com/au/en/internal-hard-drives/desktop-ha…
I have one with:
DOM: 03/2013
Product of Thailand (HDD)
Assembled in China
CrystalDiskInfo reports 7200 rpm
Yep, same.
Mine is 03/2013, assembled and product of Thailand and is 7200 rpm!
Mine is 01/2013,assembled and product of Thailand and is 7200 rpm
Bought from local OW. DOM is 11/12. Seagate ST3000DM001.
how do you work out what is inside? is it written on the hard disk if you crack open the enclosure? I have a 2tb STBV2000300 one i haven't opened yet, interested to know what drive is inside.
You can crack it open, though it invalidates the warranty I believe. I suppose you could also run a benchmark if you have USB 3 to see how the speeds are, but you'd need a comparison drive.
thanks for the info. i might crack it open later.
yeah i have that issue :(
some power blocks/laptop adapters have inbuilt fan in them, very tiny ones to cool down the components inside
possibly these fans are the ones making that whizzing sound
It happens to my one as well, but so do many other electronic devices, this one is just louder.
Probably caused by an underspec coil/transformer - under heavy load they whine. This often happens before they fail.
Problem is when powered off. Zero load. I submitted a case to Seagate for replacement Power supply. Suggest others do the same. http://support2.seagate.com/
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Yes, getting the same error message. Have tried three of four times since midday.
OW needs to start setting some good prices themselves rather than copying everyone else's price.
Why would they? This tactic is perfect for fighting those niggly cheap small shops while robbing the uninitiated…..
Yep, and when the small shops and other competitors die off, OW can stay with the high pricing more.
It's got the 7200rpm 64 meg cache barracuda inside! Very fast :-)
Got mine earlier in the week 'beating' DSE price of 109 by 5%
So, price match at DSE 5% and use ING paywave 5%…
how do you "price match" a same $109 product?
OW only changed their price to $109 after loads of people started price matching at that price with Dick Smith…. .
No more stock.. :( :(
price match at officeworks?
I got one from OW when the price matched DSE. They took all the display models off the Shelf to make it look like there was no stock left, but when I checked they looked it up and found they had heaps of stock in the store room as did surrounding stores, so if it looks like it is sold out when you get to the shelf, it doesn't hurt to ask.
they(OW) took them off so they don't want to sell it to you…..
That's not how a shop runs.
the store manager call it "cost saving" & "damn ozbargainer" in their mind
cheers just ordered one online cause i'm lazy to go pick it up. free delivery too
Bought the Seagate 3TB Expansion Desktop Hard Drive USB2 model a month back for $69 at Australia Post. Thought it was a great deal until it died 2 weeks later after transferring 1TB of data onto it. Spent ages trying to recover some PVR TV recordings that weren't backed up, but was a waste of time. Its completely dead :(
yeap, ppl would realize the data inside is worth way more than $69
seagate is most notorious for reliability, but have you tried removing the enclosure instead? on common issues, it is the enclosure controller board that was cheapen out and they don't lasts
another very sensitive issue with usb drives is the fact that most ppl don't eject the drive before pulling the plug, never never do that for any portable drives/memory sticks, MS needs to provide a better solution to this. I use a custom usb ejector software that only requires one click and will even re-connect the drive without having to pull out and push back in.
What is the ejector you use? I have never had a problem with any of 5 drives, portable and desktop, just pulling them out. Am I missing something?
Never disconnected the drive from PC in the 2 weeks it lasted. PC was only turned on for a few days, with latest AV installed. Only got 1.2GB data transfered from 3 HDD on PC before died. So it was nothing I did that caused it to fail. Unit fails all Seagate's important tests, after reformat etc.
No use removing new HDD from enclosure as I want an external for file backup between machines. Can't get replaced if I dismantle new unit.
Never had a problem with my 2 external WDs over a few years.
I had a 2TB Seagate external as well that failed on me. Turned out the enclosure controller board was busted and that was what was causing the problems. Once I removed the drive from the enclosure it was fine. So you really have to assess whether you want a replacement or to get the data you have transferred onto it. This was my dilemma. In the end I went with the option of opening it up, voiding the warranty in the process but enabling me to gain access to my data and to use it as an internal with an HDD docker. Unfortunately if it isn't a problem related to the enclosure, a problem with the drive itself, then by opening up the enclosure you may not only be without data but without means of replacement. That is a why voiding warranty sucks. Because there is no way for your average consumer to troubleshoot and determine if it's the enclosure or not unless it's obvious that it isn't connecting, but if it seems to be connecting and there is a problem inside the enclosure but not the drive then there is really no way to tell other than to open it up, but once you do that…
In your case however it seems that you can still reformat the drive, just there is a problem with transferring the data. Which is a real shame. So it seems to be an issue with the drive, but it could also be an issue with the connection failing mid-transfer thanks to a faulty enclosure connection board. So you are faced with the same options. But since you have reformatted the drive by the sounds of it there is no data anyway to retrieve so you may as well send it back. The problem is they will send you an identical unit and with your experience of Seagate do you really want to have to rely on another product of theirs? I don't think that AP or Seagate offer refunds for faulty goods unless they are DOA. I think it's just a warranty/replacement policy, unless replacement isn't possible.
As I said, I reformatted, so no data left. Am currently erasing by writing 0's as recommended by Seagate, then retest. Lost 250GB (100hrs) of TV movies & comedy, which will be repeated, so just a nuisance. Most of drive reported bad sectors & in RAW format.
Failing after 2 weeks, I want a new one.
Sounds like a defective drive then. It really is a major problem. I have five externals and don't have the money to buy duplicates and make backups of the drives. Sometimes the data that's on the drive is worth so much more than the outlay it cost to purchase the drive. $69 was an excellent deal for a 3TB, I think maybe it was 'old' USB2 stock though. I think I bought my 2TB expansion for $109 (it wasn't on sale).
As I posted it's the older USB2 model, selling out at $69 a month ago. That Post Office had just relocated, so I wonder if they were heavy handed when moving stock.
Got last of old model in stock. If I complain enough, might get free upgrade to USB3 :) That would be the only positive to come out of my first Seagate experience!
Some SSDs will also shut down (permanently) if you pull out the plug without disconnecting in Win/Mac first - Micron in particular. Then you have the fun of having to pull it out of the caddy and leave just the power plugged into your PC for two hours (an hour each time) to reset it, so it can be seen again.
True story. Look at the Crucial forums.
MS still haven't designed a version of Windows to reliably deal with processes locking the drive (ie, can't eject safely unless power down in those scenarios). Users should be given the choice to kill the process or at least identify it (given Windows knows about it!). Have use some third party utils but I haven't found one that works 100%. Conversely have never had a problem with the same drives/USB sticks across multiple Linux flavours. I'm sure those OS thrash my hard disks less too with via their swap files.
Why are Seagate Hdd's on special more so than WD?
Probably not as reliable as Western Digital, hence frequent promotion?
I own both drives, don't make comment like these unless you can reference it. A quick search on OzBargain shows Western Digital has also been on sale recently too.
This Seagate is cheap because Dick Smith dropped their price briefly, so Office Works dropped theirs too match so people didn't use the 5% off. Office Works have now not increased the price leaving this at a great price.
I imagine this OW deal will end COB today, which was the original end date for DSE deal.
constantly moving stock keeps the investors happy
whether they were making a loss doesn't matter as they still are one of the major HDD players even buying over sammie
when I called up last week the first two stores had very little, but Clayton VIC had 35. Probably a good bet.
Heaps at doncaster today. Bought four at 7.55pm. Just before closing
Made in china hdd and assembled in china. Dom 12/2012
7200rpm drive inside confimed with crystal disc info. Dm001 drive
About 10 on the shelf at OW Glebe this afternoon. Some are made in China, some Thailand, but none match the DOM's listed above.
Good deal if you don't value your data…
Not really.
Some people may think its good deal because you VALUE your data.
Since its cheaper now to buy disks, therefore it is cheaper to RAID them together to protect your data.
Just to clear things up, RAID needs to be combined with some form of time-based backup." RAID protects your data from a disk failure on your primary storage system, and a reliable backup strategy protects your data in case the primary system fails. hence why people buy external drives (for back up) The question here was which drive is more reliable, Seagate or WD, but that discussion could go all night.
The argument of if RAID is a form of backup can also be argued.
However Seagate and WD, both as unreliable therefore why large companies always use several forms of backup media, e.g. Tapes, Hard Drives, BR Disks, etc.
External Drives like this is never really a good form of backup, since people usually lug it around and aren't concious of how easily shock can destroy data. I've seen a person trying to run their portable hard drive on a 25 degree angle. LOL. And seen people destroy their usb sticks and hard drives by ripping it out without safely removal in Windows…
External hard drives are good at sharing 'ahem….. cough cough' with your friends though LOL!
so true,
a knock, a bump or a shortfall & you should be gasping for air :D
I've never had a problem pulling sticks or drives out of a W environment, I do it all the time and haven't done anything to enable safe removal. I do always have them either vertical or horizontal, no in between …
It happens a lot less nowadays in windows vista/7/8 since windows has added a new feature to prevent you from having to use safely remove.
I remember the days of XP where flash drives would just fry because people were ripping them out.
Contrary to good (performance-related) RAID advice, I usually use different brands, e.g. for a RAID-1 array I would use one Seagate and one WD, for example. That way in addition to redundancy, I also get protected from stupid firmware errors that can plague a drive family.
coughSeagate 7200.11 SD15cough
RAID is definitely not a form of backup. If a Trojan hits your pc and encrypts or deletes all your data, a RAID isn't going to save you as both drives will have the same bad or missing info.
out of stock
out of stock
sigh
Do these drives have vertical stands? Take up to much desk space otherwise and cool better standing on edge.
No they don't, I personally don't trust stands for mechanical drives, though they would look better that way.
Lots of NAS servers have drives mounted vertically
A drive won't tip over inside a NAS if knocked accidentally.
May be a dump question;
Can this drive be used in a NAS microserver?
Yes.
This has been answered in many of the other 3TB deals too.
3TB 4TB 100TB (when ever they get around to doing that), can be used in your NAS.
However anything over 2TB, windows requires it to be a GPT disk. Which BIOSes do not support booting off a GPT Disk.
Only EFI or UEFI supports booting off a GPT Disk.
To check if your computer uses a Bios or a EFI, simply press DEL when start up and enter that menu, if the menu looks old and blue screen then its a Bios, if it looks all new and has pictures and stuff, then it is EFI.
All Microservers are Bios driven.
You can store data in it, but you cannot use it as your primary boot disk.
Hi Iplau,
Thanks for your detailed response.
Cheers,
I have a reservation for the drive for $109 at DSE Chullora.
If anyone interested, I'll forward the reservation email. Note: expires today
Mate, someone will prolly call 'dupe' on this. It was discussed in the post on the same/similar drive being marked down to $109.00 at Dick Smith a few days ago.