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High Speed Pure Copper Cables - iPhone 5 $3.99 - iPhone 4 / Galaxy $2.99

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High Speed Pure Copper Cables - iPhone 5 $3.99 - iPhone 4 / Galaxy $2.99
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Store Repwhowantthegoodies on 07/08/2013 - 08:22 bulksales.com.au (445 clicks)
Last edited 07/08/2013 - 11:46

To avoid having too much traffics on our website. We have also put the deals on ebay:

iPhone 3/4 ipad 1/2/3 - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Genuine-Tikbro-iPhone-4-4S-Cable-…

Galaxy or other micro USB - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-Tikbro-Micro-USB-to-USB-…

This cable from is made of Stranded pure copper wires as opposed to copper jacketed steel that is generally used in most products in similar price range.
(adjusted: these cables are stranded)
What is the difference you may ask? Copper has much better conductive properties than steel and hence offers a better charging rate and higher data throughput.

Cable length: 1m.
Material: 30 AWG Solid Copper Wire.

Charge your cellphone with your laptop, PC, car charger, wall charger, portable charger and more.
Sync data with your laptop or PC simultaneously.
Made with durable plastic and copper wire inside.

Tips: Before buying a cable, ask what the wiring is made of. The material actually makes a big difference.

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  • h3h3 on 07/08/2013 - 08:25

    what are the genuine cables usually made out of? and how do these compare to them

    • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 08:37
      +1

      The genuine cables usually make out of solid copper with a 24 - 26 AWG. This cable has a 26 AWG wire. (cheap cables usually has 40AWG)
      note: the lower AWG the better

      • _Bruce_ on 07/08/2013 - 08:40
        +1

        Your post says 30, which is it?

        • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 08:45
          +1

          Sorry i was referring to iphone 4 and galaxy cables which has 26 AWG. The iPhone 5 cable has 30 AWG and apple iphone 5 cable has 28 AWG.

        • knoxy1001 on 07/08/2013 - 14:42

          Hi Rep, I've ordered 3 things, headphones, iPhone and an iPhone 4 cable- excite I realise I've accidentally not selected the pure copper cable for the iPhone 4- any chance you could update my order? I assumed these were the only ones you sold, however my order shows a pure copper iPhone 5 cable and nothing on the quality of iPhone 4 cable. Thanks.

      • accessdenied on 07/08/2013 - 08:58
        -3

        What is the difference between Iphone 5 cable and Apple Iphone 5 cable? lol..

        • Mooman on 07/08/2013 - 09:07
          +2

          I think the OP means the current iPhone 5 cable has 30AQG and the Legit Apple iPhone 5 cable has 28 AWG

          So to Summarize
          Genuine iPhone 4/Galaxy = 24-26AWG
          Genuine iPhone 5 = 28AWG
          BulkSales iPhone 4/Galaxy = 26AWG
          BulkSales iPhone 5 = 30AWG

        • danb on 07/08/2013 - 09:08

          One is the genuine apple cable and one is not

    • _Bruce_ on 07/08/2013 - 08:38
      +1

      I'd expect them to be stranded coper (rather than solid), but I'm not certain. Stranded makes the cable more flexible without breaking. As to the differences between all coper and jacketed, I doubt it matters at all for transfer speed. If charging off a PC USB port probably won't make much difference here either. May make a difference for high capacity chargers.

      • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 08:44
        -3

        Copper and jacketed copper does make huge different for transfer speed. A cheap cable can take up to 3 times longer to charge your device.

        • douglasb on 07/08/2013 - 09:15

          .

        • BlamJam on 07/08/2013 - 12:48

          I think you're going to have a hard time trying to back that claim up here. I'm not saying that there aren't rubbish (read: poorly made) cables around but I'm not at all convinced that two cables of stock length, used for syncing and charging with an Apple charger, will be significantly faster/slower if at all when made of copper vs jacketed copper.

      • oz-dxer on 07/08/2013 - 08:55
        +1

        Bruce, yes they are stranded…. but just one strand. lol.

  • oz-dxer on 07/08/2013 - 08:53
    +2

    http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Wire-Gauge_Ampacity
    AWG #30 is rated at 500mA and has a dia of 0.25mm

    I love your deals but you explanations on electronics are, lets say, "interesting"
    No doubt "convincing" to the uneducated.

    • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 09:01
      -2

      The iPhone 5 cable has a 1A (1000 mA) output due to the special design that they have. That's why they are more costly. Apple store sell them for $18 each.

      • douglasb on 07/08/2013 - 09:10
        +7

        "Due to the special design that they have"! Well that settles it! My scientific curiosity is completely sated now.

    • _Bruce_ on 07/08/2013 - 09:09
      +4

      oz-der: This 'rated at' value is about the thermal capacity not the performance (consider it an upper limit). The important point for both data rate and charging rate will be resistance, which is a function of material, cross sectional area and cable length.

      High resistance is unlikely to do much to data transfer until it is high enough to result in incorrect values being read from the cable, at which point it will barely work at all.

      For charging there are basically two ways it is done, fixed supply and variable. If fixed I image the device will draw 500mA. The high resistance in the cable will result in higher voltage drop, meaning less voltage (and power) for charging. The resistance should still not be a significant part of the system.

      When charing on higher capacity chargers there is a system of increasing current draw until voltage drops off rapidly, and setting that as a limit. The higher you go the more this resistance will matter.

      Summary: Resistance can affect data transfer and will affect charging rate, but to a limited degree.

      PS: I do hate the AWG system rather than metric.

      • oz-dxer on 07/08/2013 - 09:17
        +2

        sorry Bruce, I wasnt taking the piss, I am a radio tech, have been for last 30 years.
        i agree with you totally but most folk "have no clue"
        This thread is "most entertaining"

  • NeoX on 07/08/2013 - 08:54

    Benefit of a doubt will buy one and try out. My asus Smart Tab can only be charged using the supplied cable while using. Tried a different longer cable and it won't charge the tablet if I'm using it at the same time.

    Hopefully this will work.

    • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 09:03

      We can ensure those cables 100% work. Guaranty money back if it does not provide what it says.

  • ESEMCE on 07/08/2013 - 09:02
    +5

    Over the 1m length of these cables, the difference in data transfer speed and charging between pure Copper and Copper clad is going to be minimal to the point of being immeasurable without lab grade test equipment.
    Sure, over a 50m Ethernet run you will notice a performance difference, but Ethernet runs at higher speed and over longer distance.

  • douglasb on 07/08/2013 - 09:06
    +8

    First rule of doing business anywhere: A good salesman does not need to criticize his competitor's product to sell his own.

    I call bu11sh1t on the "copper jacketed steel" claim. It's ridiculous; it betrays a clear lack of knowledge about electronics, physics, manufacturing & marketing. It's an intrinsically stupid claim on all levels, plucked out of the sellers ar5e to fake up a claim that his product is superior, when in fact it is not.

    Copper CLAD steel is a more expensive but stronger wire useful in RF applications (antenna cables for example) where the high frequency signal travels only around the outside of the conductor. In that context the steel core provides additional strength, possible lower cost (though the cost saving in using steel over copper may be overridden by additional manufacturing cost) without the lower conductivity of the steel (as compared to copper) affecting performance.

    Genuine cables are not solid copper, they're stranded. This will be obvious to anyone who has (1) held a genuine cable in their hand, and, (2) a clue. Solid cable is used in fixed applications (house wiring, internal wiring, fixed routed wiring bundles) where the cable is unlikely to ever be moved. Single core / solid cable is not very flexible & is prone to breakage & failure if moved. Stranded cables have slightly lower conductivity for a given diameter in DC applications but are flexible & therefore less prone to breakage.

    If OPs cables are actually solid cable (and I doubt it), you shouldn't buy them, they'd be unreliable.

    I could go on, but I think I've made my point. Here, OP is selling generic aftermarket cables that are comparable, & not markedly different, to any other generic aftermarket cable. OP has resorted to a tired old ploy often invoked by poor salespeople in making up pseudo-scientific claims to 'prove' that his cables are better.

    Protip, OP: don't drink your supplier's Kool Ade until you're sure it's actually Kool Ade. in this case, it's horse urine with a bit of green food coloring.

    Four dollars is a fair, but not bargain, price for a generic charging cable. Not a bargain.

    • oz-dxer on 07/08/2013 - 09:13
      +2

      Skin effect, now there is a good topic of conversation.

      • douglasb on 07/08/2013 - 09:26
        +1

        Yes yes!!! Let's start a round of the Skin Effect Wars in an ozbargain post! This might go on for months before we all agree that each other is utterly wrong! hahaha!

        • altomic on 07/08/2013 - 10:15
          +1

          followed by a round of really bad puns.

    • _Bruce_ on 07/08/2013 - 09:13
      +2

      While your meaning is good, your details are a little off.

      In RF applications a specific cable resistance is desired, which the steal provides. In this case lower resistance is actually a good thing, just of questionable benefit.

      • douglasb on 07/08/2013 - 09:25

        Ths is a DC application, so yeah, lower resistance theoretically better. I don't think we can claim data transfer at USB speeds to be RF… so we can skip the RF bit of the discussion.

        Strenght & a bit of attenuation, both nice in a radio cable, but at a cost that means a cheap shitty Chinese manufacturer making cheap shitty Chinese cables won't ever use it in a cheap shitty Chinese iPhone cable :-) :-) :-)

    • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 09:33
      +2

      Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. We are just making it clear that the cables we got are better than dirt cheap cables and selling at same price. We apologise that we didn't have enough knowledge to know that a real iphone 5 cable uses a stranded cable. What we are trying to say here is we got both the cheap cables and the good ones:
      http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Data-Cable-Samsung-Galaxy-s2-s3-s…

      As a re-seller i can tell you that they are not the cheapest one you can find in the market. Some cables cost as low as $0.2 AUD but their quality is really bad. You will just have to pay to find out which seller sells usable ones.

      We have been in ozbargain for a while and we understand that people here need good product at the cheapest price.

      We certainly can get stranded cables but they will be selling alot more due to their expensive cost price.

      • douglasb on 07/08/2013 - 09:41
        +1

        Just be honest please, OP. Arbitrary claims of being better than the other guy with nonsensical supporting evidence will fool dummies, but the OzBargain crowd has proven itself to be pretty smart, not easily fooled.

        Tell me why your product is good, don't criticize your competitors. Criticising the other guy is a cheap and lazy trick that leads me to doubt you, not trust you.

  • leyton01 on 07/08/2013 - 09:07

    So these cables can handle the traffics better when I sync my iPhone?

    • douglasb on 07/08/2013 - 09:11

      See @scubacoles post, above. Immeasurably different. Short answer: no they cannot.

    • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 09:12

      No they won't. It only makes a different when charging.

      • _Bruce_ on 07/08/2013 - 09:17
        +3

        Then why do you claim "higher data throughput"?

        • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 09:19
          -1

          Cheap cables won't always sync your device whereas these cables works perfectly

        • douglasb on 07/08/2013 - 09:21
          +2

          He means the 'amps' data, not the ones & zeroes :-)

        • oz-dxer on 07/08/2013 - 09:21

          I think in this case OP's "data throughput" is actually refered to electron flow and "charge current"
          fatter wire = more current = faster charging :)

      • leyton01 on 07/08/2013 - 09:21

        Sorry that should have been:
        So these cables can handle the "traffics" better when I sync my iPhone?

        Too subtle?

  • h3h3 on 07/08/2013 - 09:18
    +1

    you should do some form of test (timelapse youtube video maybe?).. your cable VS genuine cable VS "cheap" cable so you can prove these cables do indeed do what you say

    "offer a better charging rate and higher data throughput"

    • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 09:20

      Thank you for your recommendation. We will certainly do one since everyone has doubt.

  • cpho on 07/08/2013 - 09:28
    +3

    To point this in a different direction, will it work on iOS7?

    • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 09:35

      yes they will work on ios7

      • cpho on 07/08/2013 - 14:00

        You seem very sure about that. If it doesnt work on iOS7, can I get a refund?

        (…even though we have no idea when it'll be out…)

        Otherwise if all will end well, I'll grab a couple :)

        Dont fancy paying $10+ for a branded one to get it working on iOS7

  • _Bruce_ on 07/08/2013 - 09:32
    +1

    Just a thought experiment:

    If I have a 2A 5V charger, the maximum charging power with a perfect cable is 10W. For this cable to reach the claimed 3 times faster, let us assume it is perfect. To make a cable that is three times slower it will need to provide 10/3W to the device, thus 20/3W lost to cable resistance. At 2A this is 3.33V, resulting in a cable resistance of .66 Ohms (round trip) 333mOhms (one way). So for a 1M Cable the cable resistance of these cheap cables must be (at best):

    333 Ohms/KM.

    To reach this value the cable would have a current rating around 300mA, and with 2A going down it will probably be on fire.

    …not to say such cables don't exist.

  • HeXa on 07/08/2013 - 09:43
    +1

    oh man… I came late to the party :(

    much LOLs in this thread by the rep - yet another reason why kids should stay in school until Yr 12!

    anyways, since no one else has voted on this deal…. I'll neg it because even after all this discussion, the item continues to have a misleading description here and on the store webpage.

  • baybeans on 07/08/2013 - 09:51
    +1

    http://bulksales.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/…

    Instructions unclear.
    strange tingling feeling in left arm.

    Proceeding to next step.. burning cables

    • oz-dxer on 07/08/2013 - 09:59

      That is a pisser….
      A bit like the irish fuse tester.
      why not just use a magnet? if it has steel cable it should attract.
      rather than cutting the cable ffs.

  • Grok on 07/08/2013 - 10:19

    The only issue I am really interested in is will these cable last?

    The biggest problem with non genuine cables is they fall apart or fail very quickly.

    • Store Repwhowantthegoodies @ BulkSales on 07/08/2013 - 10:32

      yes they are going to last long

  • dreamzz on 07/08/2013 - 10:48

    OP does it work with ios7? i have tried a few cables from ebay with ios7 beta and the phone says the cable is not genuine so not supported and wont charge as well.

    • A3Australia on 07/08/2013 - 11:23

      OP does it work with ios7? i have tried a few cables from ebay with ios7 beta and the phone says the cable is not genuine so not supported and wont charge as well.

      The OP (bulksales) has already stated that their cables work with iOS7.

      "yes they will work on ios7"

  • ilostnemo on 07/08/2013 - 12:34
    +1

    There are 3 types of non-genuine cables

    Shite
    Real Shite
    Complete & Utter Shite

    Which one are these?

    • c0balt on 07/08/2013 - 13:18

      The only comments in this thread with less truth than yours are the ones being made by the OP!

    • superkieu on 07/08/2013 - 14:31

      better than Apple

      (because of its special design)

  • maxixix on 07/08/2013 - 15:02

    Buyer beware

    http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/apple-launches-ch…

    The dodgy charger KILLED her fyi. I also believe will or already has launched a software update to counteract the usage of dodgy chargers.

  • knoxy1001 on 07/08/2013 - 15:37

    Hi Rep, I've ordered 3 things, headphones, iPhone and an iPhone 4 cable- excite I realise I've accidentally not selected the pure copper cable for the iPhone 4- any chance you could update my order? I assumed these were the only ones you sold, however my order shows a pure copper iPhone 5 cable and nothing on the quality of iPhone 4 cable. Thanks.

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