Samsung Galaxy S6/S6 Edge: a Bit of Disappointment

Hi guys,

Started this topic as to see what everyone thinks of the new Samsung products.. Personally I didn't quite like it , well just like every other year which I was hoping they do something different to the iPhone. I have an iPhone 5s at the moment and was thinking to switch to android. I thought about OPO and XiaoMi but one problem is that they don't have Aus support=[.

Anyway, the new galaxy phones won't let you to remove battery and memory card😐, and it even looks like an iPhone now …I'm not a Samsung hater but come on 😐😐😐

If you were to switch to s6 what are some of the features that attracted you the most?

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    MicroSD slot !!!

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      Not in the S6!

      • +1 vote

        Yeah samsung are really pushing it with the s6. I was all keen to buy one. I had an S1, S2, S4 and was waiting for the S6 but now… I don't think I'll bother. Why get a Galaxy if you can't put in an SD card or have swappable batteries. So stupid.

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          Yep. I am already expecting my next phone to be an LG or HTC. Only two large manufacturers that both do good headphone jack audio quality and offer a microSD card on their flagship. Pity, I was very happy that Samsung always offered those two as well as a removable battery.

        • +6 votes

          @RedSky:
          look at Sony as well if you want headphone audio quality and microSD slot

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          I was thinking the same thing. Had the s2 and s4 and was thinking of going with the s6.
          The no waterproof/removable battery makes me think again. The microSD isnt a big thing for me since they have bumped up the internal storage and currently 16gb is enough on my s4.
          I will just wait and see what the battery life is like, as it is apparently a whole lot better since its not removable- i usually use an external power supply anyway.

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          @PVA:

          Yeah I forgot about Sony. Only really since the Z3.

          http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p7.php

  • +1 vote

    Bit harsh on the edge. Its visually very interesting.

  • +13 votes

    Design is definitely a step up from the S5 but seems they have sacrificed a lot to get there.

    No removable battery, No SD card slot, No waterproofing.

    I always thought the above three were good differentiators to switch to Andriod from iOS but removing them in place of a better design is hard to gauge.

    Will be interesting to see how much they are priced at though.

    • +5 votes

      removeable battery and waterproofing I can live without
      but no SD card is annoying, as long as the base model is a 128g'er!

  • +1 vote

    Highlights are DDR4 RAM, UFS2.0 (quicker boot/launching apps?), OIS camera in specs. Looks are looks. Apparently these things along with the special SoC should make the battery last.

  • +1 vote

    VR porns, VR porns, VR porns. I mean movies, yes movies.

    To be honest, I've always saw Samsung to be differentiatable in Android market from being able to be differentiated with better hardware (Internals mainly). So in a way, I see S6 to be closer to what they used to do, S5 was a disappointment in many regards, mainly design and lacklustre internals (though I wouldn't deny that it had many ups as well). 14nm, UFS 2.0, better wireless charging (So I've heard, I have slept through the event) and VR to some extent. I don't know how well that will translate with the losses we have, removable batteries and microSD card support. That being said, when my phone finally dies, S6 Edge does look pretty enough and interesting enough for me to consider as a solid option.

  • +5 votes

    There are a few reasons as to why I prefer Android to iOS. Not closed off, customisable and expanding memory just to name a few.

    Design and specs all come second to the features IMO, as such, if the said phone doesn't have the expandable memory like it's previous products, this is by all means a no go for me. Unless the price is dirt cheap for a 128Gb edition, I wouldn't go for it as I'm sure other companies will have similar or better specs, more or less the same features but may include expandable memory and/or waterproofing.

  • +1 vote

    As someone who's used a Nexus for the last 3 years and disappointed by the N6, would like to see a good review of Sammy's Lollipop implementation.

    • +2 votes

      If previous implementation is anything to go by, Touchwiz is really good for the first year or so… then it tends to slow down and feel sluggish after that… so you may be in for an "uder" disappointment?

      Sorry just wanted to do the pun =P

      But what I said still stands… its zippy for the first year or so but tends to slow down… one of the reasons I went for a different brand this time. I've kind of tested it in the sense that I had a GS3 and galaxy note 2 (which have identical specs), my GS3 is running CM11 whilst my note2 is running touchwiz… you can really feel the difference in the OS as touchwiz is laggy then CM11 due to the bloatware and possibly coding.

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    None of this year's big brand phones are impressive, both S6 and M9.
    I'm still waiting for the Zenfone2…

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      Ugh, zenfone 2. They promised us a $199 Zenfone 2 then it turned out to be a 5 inch rehash of the previous Zenfone 5, with no real improvement to performance (still using the previous-gen processor).

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      It actually depends on buyer's preference. If the buyer is the one who always buys new phone, every time there is a new one come out, then it is better to buy Samsung or Iphone. They have the highest re-selling price. If you wanna use the phone, until it breaks, then choose xiao mi or asus. I prefer xiao mi note pro over this phone

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        I doubt the resell value of ASUS is gonna be too bad, at least compared to Xiaomi in Australia most people know ASUS.

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          You absolutely right on that. Samsung and apple are the most suitable phone for people who always change their phone, once new ones release

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    I came from a S3 & Note2 to the Note 4 and the difference in materials used are a vast improvement. While it still retains some plastics, I was impressed that the metal portions are actual metal and not plastic that is painted in metallic colour (i'm talking to you S5 & Note 3). I'm sure the S6 will feel premium in hand and whilst it has taken away some features like non-expandable memory and IP67 rating it won't deter many from it. I can live without the IP67 rating, and if USB-OTG is an available feature that will help with memory storage. It's the right direction for Samsung to take. That said, I'm liking the S6 edge and camera optics.
    As @ProjectZero mentions, Touchwiz and it's the previous iterations have been sluggish performers and looks dated. Note 4 is no exception to that but since the multiwindow feature on Touchwiz (which I use a lot) it's mainly the reason I haven't made the jump to another android brand or mobile device ecosystem.
    But that being said will pricing structure be on par with Apple (Premium price for a premium feel device) ?

    • +4 votes

      i know man apple just can't help copying samsung.. They must of went into the future ripped off Samsungs designs.. came back to the present and voila.. a ripped off version… I KNEW IT!

  • +2 votes

    With the 3 sacrifices, Removable Battery, MicroSD, and Waterproof…

    Removable battery I can somehow understand because of the Rapid Charger tech that charges 0-100% in 90mins and now they upped the ante saying 4 hrs of use in 10 mins of charge. With that tech, it somehow negates the need for second battery which is what I experienced with Note 4 (I got spare battery for S4 as well)

    Waterproofing didn't turn out to be a key selling point… as disappointing as it is. Fact of the matter is S5, which is waterproof didn't sell like hot cakes. Samsung must have felt it's not that important. Another thing they pointed out was the NFC, they're saying only 10% of terminals use that tech.

    Lastly with MicroSD, they compensated with OneDrive cloud, saying everything is cloud these days. It's interesting they didn't go with GoogleDrive, maybe thinking it's going to be privacy-compromised if they went with GoogleDrive. Personally, I want MicroSD so I guess they might get a backlash on this.

    Otherwise, the phone looks good especially the dual edge. It's useful as ticker night clock as someone said.

    • +6 votes

      Lastly with MicroSD, they compensated with OneDrive cloud, saying everything is cloud these days. It's interesting they didn't go with GoogleDrive, maybe thinking it's going to be privacy-compromised if they went with GoogleDrive. Personally, I want MicroSD so I guess they might get a backlash on this.

      That's all well and good for some countries that have good internet speed and cheaper data… but that is a terrible selling point for us isn't it? Not to mention it gets rid of the option to use a microsd instead of cloud?

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      Question: Can a MicroSD Card actually be replaced by a cloud. I mean, can you save application data (cache and total data) on a Cloud?

      PS: This is a genuine question.

      • +3 votes

        cache, probably not, as the purpose of the cache is to store frequently accessed data so that the phone actually performs faster. For eg. a web browser app needs a cache so that it can store a local copy of a web page so that it can be retrieved faster when the user requests for it to be displayed again. It should also store login sessions, history, cookies and passwords locally.

        But application data can generally be streamed from the cloud when needed. This is the basic premise behind the Firefox OS for mobile. some of it's applications are run through the web browser in HTML5.

        You can also try it out in your web browser on PC
        https://turbo.net/apps/firefoxossimulator

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        The biggest things on your MicroSD are not usually the apps but are movies, music and photos that you save. Especially with phones pushing for higher megapixel cameras some of the photos can be very large in size if you are shooting at max resolution. The 4k videos are like 600mb for 2 minutes which will eat your storage quickly and is not viable to upload to the cloud in Australia.

  • +5 votes

    I think the thing about cloud storage is that people do want to use it - BUT, with only 3-5GB data allowance per month I seriously have trouble thinking how cloud is a good thing.
    You can set it to use home wifi only, but with Australia's super slow upload speed it's still terrible to use cloud. Most people are on ADSL2+, and with around less than 1mbps of upload (120kb/s), a 5MB jpg picture is going to take 42 seconds to upload!

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      Exactly. Cloud will not work until mobile data limits dramatically increase, and people have decent upload speeds at home.

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        When I first went with LiveConnected we got unlimited social data so I could upload all my videos/photos with the Facebook backup feature but now i'm with Vaya and there's no free social =( Have to settle for wifi with 40kb/s upload speed. I set it to just sync while connected to charger and wifi so it does it while I sleep but it still takes multiple days to sync my photos/videos.

  • +1 vote

    I have a LG G2.. It has no removable battery or SD slot but It's still a great phone. I guess you just have to consider what you want to use the phone for prior to making your choice.

  • +1 vote

    what i don't understand is them removing sd card slot. my HTC one M8 looks amazing and they added the slot from the M7 Samsung has gone the other way and removed waterproof (meh)
    removable battery (sucks) and micro sd card slot.

    i understand all of these to get a solid build but removing sd card slot is stupid and as proved by HTC it doesn't affect looks or build quality,they are just cheaping out.

    If i get any of this years flagships it will be the HTC one M9

    • +1 vote

      The Xperia Z4 looks like a real contender too…

      Supposedly using the top of the line CPU and GPU combo and retaining all the features teh Z3 has (i.e. the ones Samsung took out). Also supposedly a better camera too. If the Z3 is anything to go by, it has great battery life too.

  • -1 vote

    Love the look! Couldn't care less about an sd slot as there is so much free online storage these days and that will only get bigger and better

  • +2 votes

    My initial impressions; it sucks.

    The entire appeal of the Galaxy devices are those two things: Removable battery and Expandable Storage (MicroSD). Add Water Resistance and Wireless Charging to the Note 4 (which is what I'm using) and it would be the ideal PERFECT phone.

    In an odd way, I'm relieved, since I picked up the Note 4 last week I had just a tad buyers remorse for not holding out for the GS6 or Note 5. :)

    • +2 votes

      I don't think Note 5 will follow S6 as it would be far too close to each other.

      Note 5 will come out sometime in 2nd half of the year if the pattern can be repeated. If Note 5 is to follow S6, I am thinking it would delay the release of Note 5 and I just don't think it will be the case.

      But I do agree, MicroSD, Battery Removability (very useful in event of error as a true soft reset), Waterproofing, and Wireless Charges are the ultimate phone.

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        I did have a few situations where I needed to remove the battery to reset the phone as it didnt respond to button presses nor the reset button hold procedure.

  • +1 vote

    Loving my LG G3 since last October. Never touching Samsung again. Since S3 nothing good came out of them all incremental upgrades and now no battery swap or micro Sd slot. They think they are prestige brand like Apple. Tell them F off.

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      +1 The LG G3 is amazing, for a 5.5 inch screen with tiny bezels. It's only slightly bigger than a 5 inch phone. Battery life is amazing, continuous rom updates. The G4 hasn't been announced yet, probably waited for the backlash of the s6 and then announce everything the s6 isn't.

  • +7 votes

    Battery and SD have killed it for me.

    The battery removal is seriously useful especially when the phone freezes. Also the batteries struggle to live for more than 2 years and get progressively worse as time goes by. My work phone is an S3 4G and I struggle to get more than about 5 hours of battery life with minimal use, power saving on and nothing on except wifi and mobile data.

    Will be interesting to see how non-removable the battery is.

    • +3 votes

      The battery removal is seriously useful especially when the phone freezes.

      FYI, all phones and most other portable electronics have a a hard power off (i.e. the equivalent of pulling the battery) by holding down the power button for a period of time.

      • +2 votes

        Yup, people are making this issue bigger than it actually is.

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        True, but I have had it not work before (Galaxy S4). I would have had to wait for the battery to die, except I just pulled the battery out and everything was working again.

  • +1 vote

    Check out the Android authority hands on. Despite having a s810 CPU it's UI transition is slower than LG magna / spirit. The promise to implement a cleaner android turned out to be another disappointment. Plus the omission of removable battery and sd slot, I think the ship is sinking further.

    I still remember the days I recommended S3 and Note3 to my friends/families. Now it's pretty much LG or Nexus. I'm using a G2 right now and alone with Nexus 5/6 they pretty much represent Android for the time being.

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    Yeah, the big selling point to me for Samsung has been the battery & SD upgradeability.

    Hopefully this is just a one off for the Edge model and doesn't come in on all future models.

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    They have gone backwards. Their demise is near like HTC went to non-removal battery no SD card slot.

    Look at what happened to them? They struggle will be out of market soon.

    The next brands to take over is LG, Xiaomi, Huawei they will crush Samsung soon

  • +3 votes

    Non-removable battery: It is to allow wireless charging, make the phone a bit thinner, and metal back cover.
    No more MicroSD card: Other than storing movies and photos, it is generally better to have more phone storage. You may be able to use USB OTG as a workaround.

    The screen res did improve, so did the cameras and CPU. It is disappointing that Samsung removed non-removable battery and microSD card support. However, at the end of the day, they want to address the cheap plastic impression. Also, honestly, did both of those features made people rushed out to buy Samsung Galaxy S3, S4, and S5? Not really.

    I don't quite agree with Google simplifying Android (removing options in Lollipop to be more "iOS" like) and now Samsung removing phone features. The more they make Android more iOS like and phones more iPhone, they will end up playing to Apple's strength. Honestly, iPhone 6/6+ looks like a big iPod touch (the material at the back of phone, including lens sticking out just reminds me of iPod touch. It was just good marketing from Apple. Starve your customers on small screen, and then on the year where there is little CPU improvement, release phones with bigger screen to make them forget the other bits did not really improve much.

    • +1 vote

      Completely agree with memory card and removable batteries. I wonder how many people swap batteries. I use a power bank because I dont have to worry about buying an external charger to charge the second battery, switching off my phone, removing case, removing back cover etc.

  • +1 vote

    Somehow the contour of the phone does have some similarity with the Iphone 6. If you look at the gold S6, the metal edge also has the white stripes and the aluminium feel like the iphone. I wonder if its blatant copying. Next question you will ask yourself….Does it bend?

    • +3 votes

      the metal edge also has the white stripes

      (a) Those stripes are for the antenna.
      (b) They also appeared on the Galaxy Alpha, which was announced before the iPhone 6
      (c) HTC had them before everyone, so…

      the aluminium feel like the iphone

      Didn't realise Apple had a claim on the use of metal in a phone.

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    However you feel about no micro sd slot, the fact is the price difference from a base model of any phone / tablet with x GB internal storage to models with more capacity is always exorbitant compared to what a micro sd card would cost.

    Apparently the 128GB model will cost ~$144 more than the 64GB model, which will cost ~$144 more than the 32GB model. Wtf. Either you get ripped off handsomely, or decide later that you need more capacity / your non-removable battery isn't holding charge any more, hey the S7 is out buybuybuy

  • +5 votes

    I tried bringing in my Samsung phone into the Apple genius bar the guy gave me a funny look. Strange though, Apparently they don't see a difference in them according to their lawsuit.

  • +1 vote

    I imagine that these new phones are targeted at people who replace their phones frequently, and are therefore less worried about battery degradation.

    Inevitably we get to a stage where the improvements become more and more marginal with each new release, it doesn't matter whether you're talking Android or Apple. The most important competitor for Apple isn't Android but earlier versions of the Apple phones that people are still quite happy with.

    The first steam engine (the Newcomen engine) was 0.5% efficient. It was superseded by the James Watt Engine that was 3% efficient. Companies gladly changed their engines as new models became available given the substantial improvements in performance.

    These days improvements in diesel engines have plateaued, companies change them only when they are broken or clapped out. Same with washing machines and toasters. Eventually the same thing will happen with phones. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth by all the phone makers when that day arrives.

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      Yeah. Still using my Samsung Galaxy S2 as a backup phone alongside my lg g2. It wouldn't be usable till this day if not for the removable battery - I bought 2 good quality Anker cells for it and they really extended the useful service life of the device.

      Try using an iPhone for 4 years on the same battery..

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      Clearly from the lawsuits Apple does think of Android (Samsung) as a competitor. If they didn't then they wouldn't bother suing them.

      Xiaomi (One of the largest Chinese Mainland Vendors) for example uses MIUI which is pretty much a copy of the iOS layout. They don't consider them a competitor which is why they don't bother suing them.

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        Yeah, they should probably consider Android a competitor since it has an 81% of the smart phone market.

  • +2 votes

    Not impressed by it. My galaxy S3 has been through two batteries already so I hate buying phones and throwing them away when the battery dies. I also like expandable memory as I plan to take some nice videos/photos with my next smartphone. I also want a smaller size. Personally holding out for Sony Z4 Compact, just hope they address that cracking and camera overheating problem this time. I also think smartphones are getting far too expensive for what they are. $800+ for a phone is a bloody joke.

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      Replacing a battery isn't that hard even if they don't make it like a snap case.
      It usually only takes like 3 screws then remove internal battery and put in a new one. Did it on a HTC and a iPhone before.

      More companies need to get these so they can decrease the cost of R&D and producing the phone:
      http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/shock-footage-bbc-...

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        Okay, its easy to replace, great. But why should you? Voiding your warranty to replace what SHOULD be a user serviceable item? Particularly if as a manufacturer, you're going to decrease the capacity of the battery by 10%. Here's an article worth reading…

        I love Galaxy's. Have personally had an S3, S4, and S5. But their new direction is stupid. They're removing all of their positive points of difference (swappable battery, SD card etc) yet leaving the much hated relics behind (I'm looking at you, Touchwiz) - and I can't quite understand the logic.

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    In regards to Oppo, I'm adamant that OppoMobile is the official retailer for Australia and would provide support.
    I've had a Find 5 for more than 2 years and I still don't think that it has fallen off from today's high mid-range phones.
    They're implementation of ColorOS is a work in progress and from my experience has been giving features to customers that Touchwiz and Sense are calling "New features", it has its flaws but as an alternative Android OS, I think it's just fine.
    I think that Samsung's effort with the S6 is somewhat lacking, especially compared to the S5, Getting caught up in the whole QHD race as well as going for a uni-body design, just irks me. It's like they just want to catch up to the competition, rather than stay ahead.
    The Edge however, I think is a step in the right direction. Given that it's almost a clone of the S6 with just a tweaked screen design. I still think that putting that small amount of innovation, especially in a flagship (albeit a rather niche one) is a good sign.
    Good luck on your choice :).