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Free replacement of Halogen. They will come and replace your halogen lights with LED for free. You would have power saving and low bills. I haven't tried yet but seems to be good offer.
Note: Applicable to VIC only
Free Replacement of Halogen with LED Lights @ Accredited Power [VIC]
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john19031982 on 31/07/2015 - 17:19 accreditedpower.com.au (486 clicks)
Last edited 31/07/2015 - 18:28 by 2 other users
Last edited 31/07/2015 - 18:28 by 2 other users
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is there a problem or bad experience with this kind of offers? Are there reasons we should avoid them?
You get what you pay for.
The VEET scheme does not require "equivalency" for the lamps that get replaced. So, they might take outa 35W 700 Lumens MR16 lamp and replace it with a 4W 300 Lumen LED.
Also, you pay for dimmers, ANY kind of incompatibility or upgrade or standards. A good example would be cans or shrouds around downlights that might not have been needed when the lights were first installed but are mandatory now days. The installing electrician must BY LAW upgrade to current standards, and that might also entail installing Safety Switches, all manner of stuff.
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really? how can do they these things? are there any law against them?
Yes is laws that are…
JV you're grammars gotten real bad now
go back2skool mun
It might be a good idea to mention it is for Victoria only
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You might want to put in the post description VICTORIA ONLY
Added. Thanks!!
Will they replace my round tubelight too?
Maybe you missed that button that says store rep or associated.
fyi…i m not store rep…
Righto John.
I think they are missing the first 403 faqs
Faq 404 - Was in a rush to get a webpage up to post to OzB.
So what is actually free? New led replacement or just labor cost?
You will sell your VEET rights to them (~$12 per globe I believe) in exchange for a $2 globe installed).
That depends…..
If you have 16 or more 'suitable' downlights to replace, if you want the basic option, if you meet their condtions, if your transformer doesn't need replacing, if you don't consider the fact that you pay for the subsidy through your taxes, then sure it's free. And yes it's the light and the labour.if you don't consider the fact that you pay for the subsidy through your taxes, then sure it's free
There is no subsidy and there are no taxes. The government administers the scheme but they DO NOT pay for it.
The cost is ultimately paid by the cinsumer as a fee of every electricity bill. It's related to Carbon Emissions Abatement, and the electricity suppliers have to show carbon offsets somehoe… planting trees, wind farms, reduction in emissions by consumers, etc.
You're right, I stand corrected. I guess the privatised ex-state owned power distributors collect the cost via the power retailer charging you for it. Ultimately, no matter what happens you pay for it one way or another……..bend over a bit further sir, here's your rebate.
Surely buying quality globes and replacing them yourself would be more cost-effective for the consumer in the long run.
Looks like they are using the primsols that most others are using. No deal here its the same cost everywhere in vic for them.
Had 92 replaced at my place by a different outfit. Left me 8 spares. Loving them. And free.
Downloaded an Android app to measure the Lux and color output of my original halogens and 3 different LED replacements before committing to such a large change. The Prismals were the closest match to my original halogens. I did notice that the output from my halogens varied greatly. Some were twice as bright as the LEDs and others were only half as bright as the LEDs. I guess the light output from the halogens decreases with time.
they charged the State Government $2900
No, they didn't. The government is not "paying" anything. In actual fact, the government collects money from it (overall)… it's a TAX.
You are signing away your right to claim the energy reductions to the Installer, in the form of Energy Savings Certificates (called VEETs). Each Certificate is equal to one Tonne of CO2 Equivalent in emmissions that have been abated (will be prevented from being released into the atmosphere) by the so-called energy savings measure.
The Installer sells these Certificates to an AP (Accredited Person) who then aggregates them and sells them on the open market to whoever will buy them. The buyer of the Certificates then uses them to demonstrate their own Carbon Abatement activities… if they don't, then they will pay the Government a penalty fee of about $30 per Tonne. All of this is necessary if they are unable to meet their commitments doing actual energy savings for themselves, planting trees, building wind farms, or whatever.
The most common ultimate purchasers of Certificates are the Electricity Retailers, as they have no other way to offset their emissions. The cost for buying these Certificates is then applied across ALL consumers who use electricity… if you carefully check your electricity bills you will actually see this itemised on there as a Carbon Abatement charge.
I did notice that the output from my halogens varied greatly. Some were twice as bright as the LEDs and other were only half as bright as the LEDs.
That is becaude you have a mixture of good halogens and crap halogens, and that is not just brands but also models within each brand. There is about 100% variance in the output of Osram's best (IRC) to worst (DecoStar) MR16 halogen lamp (for an equal wattage), and the cheap rubbish like Mirabella are even worse than the lowest performing Osrams, etc. Also, some would have been 50W and some would be 35W or 20W.
I guess the light output from the halogens decreases with time
It does for the really shitty ones, as the reflector degrades considerably.
Be aware that the LEDs will degrade considerably as well. This is dependant on the internal quality of the lamp, and related to operating temperatures.
That is becaude you have a mixture of good halogens and crap halogens, and that is not just brands but also models within each brand.
Checked my measurements on halogen light output. As you said the Osrams (not sure which model) had the highest light output. The lowest light output was from Philips halogens bought from Bunnings. If you have Philips halogens you can expect the Prismal LEDs to be brighter.
If you have Philips halogens you can expect the Prismal LEDs to be brighter.
That comment is like saying "the smallest boot in the cars that we checked was the Mazda 2, whilst the largest boot was in the Hyundai Santa Fe people mover, If you want a big boot, don't buy a Mazda".
It is NOT necessarily related to the brand, it is the KIND of halogen. The model. The "rating" of it.
In the same way that car manufacturers sell different models of cars to suit different markets, Phips, GE, Osram, etc all sell NUMEROUS different model ranges of MR16 lamps. In general terms the lamps you buy from places like Bunnings are the absolute WORST performing because they only stock what they can buy cheap and sell high,
Also, measuring Lux in the way that you did is completely misleading, because you are only measuring PEAK intensity directly underneath each bulb. A 38 degree lamp and a 60 degree beam lamp will have identical light output, however the 38 degree will have more than triple the lux directly below.
Whilst you think you were being "scientific", in fact you were allowing your lack of knowedge to lead you to an erroneous conclusion. Whilst you are happy with you LED lamps, that doesn't mean that the method you used to compare them was valid.
The cheapo LED downlight/lamp suppliers know that many people think like you do, which is why they almost all overstate the beam angles of their products. Plus they usually have a light distribution that is brightest directly below and fading off considerably to the sides. Good halogen lamps are actually designed to put out more light to the sides (rather than straight down) to improve lighting uniformity in the room!
For example, the LED supplier might call their LED a "60 degree" but in actual fact it might only be (say) 50 degrees. This seemingly small difference can be enough to double the light output measured directly below like you did. This is the number one method to mislead consumers, it's the oldest trick in the book.
What matters in most people's houses is not to have high intensity (big Lux numbers) directly below each light, like how a series of stage lighting potlights might work. What's needed is to illuminate the ROOM… this can be calcuated very easily using the formula Lux = (total) Lumens divided by Area (square metse).
If the halogn lamps were 900 Lumens each and they get replaced by LEDs that are 450 Lumens each, then the average amount of light in the room is halved. It's largely irrelevant what you measure with a light meter directly below each lamp.
And what would you know about scientific? If you have a PhD and done research in the field give me a hint and I'll know who you are.
I want to upgrade my downlights to LED and hope to take advantage of the rebate offer but also don't mind paying a little bit extra to upgrade to better/brighter LEDs (do some companies offer a better LED at a cost?).
Does anyone have a recommendation on who to go with?See above. Get an Android app (eg. Light Meter) and test yourself. Or just take the Prismals. At 6W they are rated lower wattage than others but give out more light than some that are rated as 10W.
Looks like it is a free LED post series in ozbargain.
It is not a deal, it is just like that in Victoria, we pay through taxes, and the gov give that back.
It is not something new, it is not a deal, and so this should go to the forum I stead.
See https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/204263 for a similar version. Different company but same deal really.It is not a deal, it is just like that in Victoria, we pay through taxes
The same kind of deals are available in NSW as well.
It is NOT paid for in taxes. It has nothing to do with the Government or taxes. See my post comment above.
The government have better ways to spend money than this.
The government have better ways to spend money than this
They do, which is why the Government DOES NOT pay for this.
Change my car halogen light to LED??? Hehehe
No thank you. closes door