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Qantas AmEx Premium Card ($249 Fee) - 82,500 Qantas Points & 2 Lounge Passes

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Qantas AmEx Premium Card ($249 Fee) - 82,500 Qantas Points & 2 Lounge Passes
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muncan on 31/12/2015 - 10:57 americanexpress.com (5874 clicks)
Last edited 31/12/2015 - 11:13 by 1 other user

Yeah there's a $249 annual fee.
Yeah some people prefer claiming gift cards over flying.
Yeah you're not supposed to sell lounge passes but people do it anyway.
Each to their own.

Earn up to 82,500 bonus Qantas Points when you apply by 29 February 2016 as a new Card Member, are approved and meet the following spend criteria:
- 80,000 bonus Qantas Points when you spend $3,000 on eligible purchases on your new Card within the first three months of Card Membership
- 2,500 bonus Qantas Points after your first Card spend in Australia on selected Qantas products and services

Full terms and conditions in the link.

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Referrer: 40,000 Reward Points

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Referee gets 200,000 MR points. Referrer gets 150,000 MR points.

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    • danielh on 31/12/2015 - 15:23
      +1

      Yes as you did not get the AmEx card from American Express itself. Ie. Your card was bank issued so no problems.

  • WaterMark on 31/12/2015 - 14:13
    +1

    Note it's only 0.5 qantas points for utility spend (except petrol which is 2 points. Compared to say discovery which is 1:1

  • slix_88 on 31/12/2015 - 14:26

    What's the minimum credit limit on this card?

    • NotAMoodle on 31/12/2015 - 16:10

      I would also like to know this from anyone that's applied?

      • FickleRick on 15/01/2016 - 16:04
        +1

        According to the T&C's min is apparently $2k!

  • outofdateyesterday on 31/12/2015 - 14:33

    Please don't go singing up for new credit applications guys

    • ozdesi on 31/12/2015 - 14:50
      +5

      I am sure some will do sing after signing up

    • NotAMoodle on 31/12/2015 - 16:10

      A cappella

    • imahapyboy on 31/12/2015 - 18:10

      why not? or can I be your additional card holder under your card?

    • outofdateyesterday on 31/12/2015 - 20:58
      +1

      You guys! He he

  • Knightelf on 31/12/2015 - 14:52

    Thanks I've been looking for a new Amex.
    Just got approved within a minute!

  • Devil on 31/12/2015 - 14:56

    Thanks! Just applied :)

  • tuvz on 31/12/2015 - 14:59

    anyone have a personal referral link..?
    does it have a better offer

    • phamid on 31/12/2015 - 17:13

      Let me check and PM you

      edit: this is the referral bonus:

      Earn up to 50,000 extra Qantas Points1 when you apply by 2 February 2016, are approved and meet the spend criteria. This offer excludes existing Card Members or previous Card Members who have held any American Express Card in the last 12 months1

      • tuvz on 31/12/2015 - 19:30
        +1

        Thanks

      • jess112 on 31/12/2015 - 20:56

        Please excuse my ignorance, but is it possible to get both the 80k points + 50k points by using a referral link? Or is it just one or the other? I'm trying to find information on it but haven't found anything that explicitly states either.

        • Neoika on 01/01/2016 - 13:03

          No,I do not think so.Only one offer applies.If you apply through the referral link,you only need to spend $500 for the 1st 3 months to obtain the bonus points.You will have 2 lounge passes as well.

        • jess112 on 01/01/2016 - 14:44

          @Neoika:
          Thanks a lot for your reply. I just called AmEx to confirm and you're right.

  • rhys26 on 31/12/2015 - 15:08

    Do bank issued amex cards trough ANZ count as having an amex? Will I still be eligible for the 80k points?

    • phamid on 31/12/2015 - 17:13

      No, only being just an American Express cardmember.

      • rhys26 on 31/12/2015 - 21:08

        What about if i have signed up for that american express connect?

        • Kothos on 15/01/2016 - 11:08

          It won't matter. Only the card issuing institution matters.

  • nightelves on 31/12/2015 - 15:23

    Does purchase constitute bills?

    • danielh on 31/12/2015 - 15:24

      Yes.

  • notcreative on 31/12/2015 - 15:43

    Thanks for the the deal OP, I couldn't find what eligible purchases were in the T&C's just a 3k spend on anything?

    • nightelves on 31/12/2015 - 16:30

      Apparently so. You can even pay your family through Paypal and it constitutes a purchase.

      • notcreative on 31/12/2015 - 16:55

        awesome, buying some Bose QC25's with points might not be a bad deal.

      • imahapyboy on 31/12/2015 - 18:07
        +4

        lol why paying fees to paypal? this is joke of the year

        • justjack on 21/01/2016 - 22:45

          is it possible to gift and not pay fees?

  • wildstone on 31/12/2015 - 18:38

    2,500 bonus Qantas Points after your first Card spend in Australia on selected Qantas products and services

    May I know what are Qantas products and services?

    • cartman on 31/12/2015 - 18:41

      10 . Selected Qantas products and services are Qantas passenger flights (with a QF flight number) purchased on the Qantas merchant account i.e. directly from Qantas and Qantas Frequent Flyer and Qantas Club membership joining and annual fees. Excludes Jetstar, Qantas Holidays and Qantas branded non-airfare products.

      • wildstone on 31/12/2015 - 18:45

        So need to purchase a Qantas air ticket is that what it is saying? Hardly fly Qantas nowadays. Anything else that could be purchase to constitute as Qantas products and services?

        • octagonalman on 31/12/2015 - 22:27
          +3

          Keep focused on the main goal! Don't worry too much about eligibility for the 2500 points when there's 80000 points available under different criteria.

        • wildstone on 31/12/2015 - 22:37

          @octagonalman:

          So 80,000 is equivalent to $500 gift voucher is that right? Does this mean the only reason to get this card is to gain $250 profit? And should cancel it after a year?

          Any other reason to keep it after a year?

        • octagonalman on 31/12/2015 - 23:13
          +2

          @wildstone:

          I have never considered the gift card equivalent as I'll always find someone-(family/friend) to benefit from reward airfare value - that way the 80000 points is worth closer to $1000.

          It might be a good idea to cancel before a year has elapsed - before the membership renewal arrives. Set a calendar reminder so you don't forget.

        • wildstone on 01/01/2016 - 00:52

          @octagonalman:

          Thanks, will keep that in mind.

        • coolsteps on 01/01/2016 - 17:41
          +1

          just go to a qantas shop and purchase a cheap toy plane lego kit like i did a few years and i got the bonus ff points.

        • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 02/01/2016 - 01:53

          @wildstone: Gift vouchers are generally poor value for FF point redemption. 80,000 points will get you nearly to the USA in business class.

        • ameno on 05/01/2016 - 09:29
          +1

          @wildstone:

          I hate this way of thinking and the fascination people have with these shitty gift cards.

          76,000 is two business class fares from PER-BNE and back again.

          The price difference between a red and business class fare on those legs.
          Red - $315
          Business - $1929

          http://imgur.com/a/guvAa

          The true value in these points promotions are for the massive savings on business fares.

        • wildstone on 05/01/2016 - 09:34

          @ameno:

          Hi ameno, thanks for the insight, however isn't taxes and other fees to be paid on top of the points? Is there any way we could find that out to get the real equivalent of money spent if the fares were to paid by cash?

        • illumination on 05/01/2016 - 10:29

          @ameno:

          Some considerations:

          1) What if you don't (or rarely) fly, whether it be due to lack of interest, phobia, lack of time (family/work) or otherwise?
          2) Would you pay $1929 for that fare anyway if you had to pay cash? If you would, then you can see it as a significant saving and calculate the value of the points based off that $1929 cost. Otherwise, you're artificially increasing your perception of value of the points by basing it off the $1929 value.
          3) What if you're the type of traveller that wants to get from A to B from the cheapest price possible? i.e. you wouldn't even consider Qantas to begin with
          4) What if the dates you want aren't available? Particularly with Qantas, they're notorious for relatively poor availability. Even more so for regular full-time workers working Mon-Fri 9am-5pm who try to fly Friday evening and back Sunday evening (domestic).

          I still think (and agree) that there is better value to be had by redeeming it for flights in premium cabins, but you simply can't apply the logic to everyone because it is not applicable to everyone.

          Trying to convince someone who never flies to "make the savings in business class" is like trying to sell a guy make-up and telling him the $200 eyeliner is now selling for $2. In fact, it'd probably be easier to sell the eyeliner.

          Another analogy would be buying a $50k car for $30k, and only buying it for $30k because you felt there was $20k worth of savings, even though you would've been perfectly happy with a $5k car to get you from A to B. Are you actually making a $20k saving? Not really - because you were happy to get a $5k car anyway. You've just overspent by $15k. If you had intended to buy the $50k car anyway then it would be a totally different discussion.

        • illumination on 05/01/2016 - 10:31

          @wildstone:

          Yes you almost always have to pay taxes on top. You can try and make a dummy booking if you have enough points for the route you'd like to check, otherwise someone else can do a dummy booking for you to check.

        • Baghern on 27/01/2016 - 17:03

          Its not much of a saving when you take tax into consideration

          ie say a fare cost 100,000 points for what would be 2c a fare, if you were to be taxed and fees $1000, that changes to 1c a fare.

          Better than gift cards which are around 0.55c

          But would you normally have paid $1000 for a business class flight.

          Qantas points on business flights are only really good for those who already buy business class.

          For the rest of us economy users, the taxes and fees still makes its an expensive.. unless we want to splurge.

          There is too much focus on the points conversion pre tax and fee and not post tax and fees

      • MelbBargainChaser77 on 22/01/2016 - 00:45

        Although this specifically excludes Jetstar, I can confirm I ppurchased a JQ fare and not only got 2500 points but 5000 gold the gold card.

  • Peck on 01/01/2016 - 11:15

    "Pay no annual Card fee for up to 4 Supplementary Cards so you can earn more Qantas Points". Does anyone have experience as to whether Supplementary Cards also qualify for 2 lounge passes. If you were to get 4 lounge passes all together, then that would almost offset the $249 annual fee.

    • danielh on 01/01/2016 - 15:02
      +1

      I have no personal experience but I would assume that only the primary card holder will have access to the bonus invites. Just like how all earned Qantas points will goto only the primary account holder's account.

  • Evostar on 01/01/2016 - 17:05

    What would be the best way to secure the full points without actually spending the $3000? As in basically clear the 3k with the 3k spend. I'm not sure I'm making sense hah! Just woke up from my NYE Crazy night.

    Also when do the points become active. I have a flight to Thailand needed at the start of February. The insurance will be a bonus too.

    Thanks!
    Happy new year y'all

    • wizzlesticks on 02/01/2016 - 16:47

      You'll be waiting up to 90 days for the points after you qualify (that is, after you accrue $3,000 in spending).

  • rhys26 on 01/01/2016 - 20:39

    Think I'll get one since I should be ok as I only have an Anz amex. Anex connect won't affect it will it?

  • Evostar on 02/01/2016 - 09:42

    So i could transfer $3000 via paypal to a friend/family +2.4% + $0.30 fee. $3072.30? not sure if this would count?

    • wizzlesticks on 02/01/2016 - 16:52

      I wouldn't recommend it: Firstly, it's a waste of $72.30 for pretty much no reason. Second, PayPal will likely limit your account with a sudden transaction such as that. A limitation means PayPal will freeze your account, and possibly the recipients, until you satisfy them that you're low risk. Sometimes this can end badly.

  • majormick on 05/01/2016 - 10:42

    I have an AMEX Corporate card under my name - does anyone know if this would preclude me from the deal?

  • mcsere on 05/01/2016 - 13:46

    Is this the same lounge pass that you get sent? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Qantas-Club-Lounge-Pass-expires-N…

    • cheapo999 on 05/01/2016 - 22:48

      This listing 262220264520 has been removed, or this item isn't available.

  • mcsere on 05/01/2016 - 14:38

    Also, though it is mentioned that you need to make a qantas purchase (flight) to get the extra 2500 pts, it appears you also need a qantas purchase to get the complimentary lounge passes.

    • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 05/01/2016 - 19:39
      +2

      Refundable business class fare will do the job. Ade-Mel is the cheapest I've found.

      • Peck on 05/01/2016 - 20:00

        WoW !! That's gutsy!!

        • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 06/01/2016 - 00:04

          I'lll admit I was a bit apprehensive when I did it. When I got the lounge passes, then refunded the fare in full, I was well satisfied with my strategy.

        • Peck on 06/01/2016 - 05:41

          @JohnHowardsEyebrows: So they automatically sent the passes?

        • cheapo999 on 06/01/2016 - 09:50

          @JohnHowardsEyebrows: is it always fully refundable?

        • Peck on 06/01/2016 - 09:57
          +1

          @cheapo999: I had a look and it seems to be. Do your search and click on the 'i' next to the fare types.

        • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 06/01/2016 - 19:36
          +1

          @cheapo999: Just make fully sure you are booking a fully refundable business class seat. Discounted business is not refundable. Take a screenshot to be super sure if anything goes wrong.

        • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 06/01/2016 - 19:42
          +1

          @peck: A long story, but I believe it is automatically triggered. Be prepared to wait a month or two before refunding.

        • cheapo999 on 06/01/2016 - 20:51

          @peck: Thanks I definitely will print it out just in case. of dispute

        • cheapo999 on 06/01/2016 - 20:52

          @JohnHowardsEyebrows: Thanks, gotta be carefull lotta money involved :D.

        • ezza on 06/01/2016 - 23:06
          +1

          @cheapo999:

          Might try this tactic what is a refundable fare Mel - Adl even worth? I assume
          You would book for 2+ months ahead to be sure you get the passes in time before the flight date to then cancel.

        • ezza on 07/01/2016 - 21:35

          @ezza:

          Looked at booking a flexible mel - adl fare and terms state this:

          Cancellations (including no show)
          Before the scheduled departure time:
          Re-booking - see 'Booking Changes' above.
          Ticket value can be used towards a new booking of equal or higher value for travel anywhere on the Qantas network within 12 months of the date that the original ticket was issued. This credit must be used within 12 months of the date the original ticket was issued.
          Any credit is the Australian dollar price.
          Refund permitted. A cancellation fee of A$88 per person applies

          So its $88 cancel fee? Unless I'm looking at the wrong fare?
          The options of fares are Economy Reward, Red E-deal, Flexible then it moves into Business Reward or Business

        • cheapo999 on 10/01/2016 - 19:44

          @ezza: It has to be Business class, not Business Reward or Business Sale. And there is a Card Payment Fee (AUD $7.00 fee per passenger).

        • Peck on 13/01/2016 - 09:55

          @cheapo999: This begs the question, is the Credit card payment fee refunded to Qantas when they reverse the transaction/re-credit your card, and therefore is that included in your refund?

        • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 13/01/2016 - 10:03
          +1

          @peck: It is.

      • nightelves on 06/01/2016 - 09:51

        Yeah I want to know also did they send you the lounge passes straight away?

      • unity1 on 07/01/2016 - 19:29

        Why does it have to be business class?

        • Peck on 07/01/2016 - 22:11
          +2

          They seem to be the only fully refundable, fee free cancellations.

  • ezza on 05/01/2016 - 15:41
    +1

    Took the plunge and applied its pretty good for a $249 annual fee.
    Will cancel before the 1sy year is up!

  • Peck on 05/01/2016 - 16:16

    I would be interested to hear if people get their lounge passes by any other means (other than by booking a QF Flight) I am planning on a One-way Business class redemption in about 9 months time, and will try to get the passes that way (even though I will already have lounge access)

  • mcsere on 06/01/2016 - 22:24

    would it satisfy the requirements if you got a classic rewards seat with points and paid the taxes with the card?
    Also good to see they have lowered points and taxes with QFF program. checking for South America and 90000 pts and round 400 in taxes is pretty good. Forget what is was previously but pretty sure was quite a bit more. Also like how you can easily get one way with QFF system (without paying return flight costs)

  • tuvz on 07/01/2016 - 14:31

    So i got my card in the mail today and the referral link i generate for the QF premium card is a 50k offer :(

    hopefully they'll update the referral offer to match this one..

    (it does let me refer the QF ultimate card though which gives 80k points but has a $450 fee)

    • ezza on 07/01/2016 - 21:31

      You signed up through someone's referral link?
      The welcome said you only get 50k? instead of 80k?

      • tuvz on 08/01/2016 - 11:10

        I signed up through the link in this thread..the offer says 80k
        Im saying now when i try refer people for this card it only gives me an offer to send that has 50k

  • mcsere on 07/01/2016 - 17:58

    Read somewhere that you can top of QFF points and pay for them with the card and that is classified as Qantas purchase. Was an old post though, anyone know if still works?

    • ezza on 07/01/2016 - 21:36

      is there a minimum you must buy?

      • mcsere on 08/01/2016 - 11:09

        i think you can buy 500 points for 20 bucks

    • Yanoflies on 10/01/2016 - 15:35

      Let me know if you find out — I want those passes.

  • R1ngSt1nger on 08/01/2016 - 14:56

    I applied for this on 6th Jan at around 7PM. It said that it will take five to ten business days to determine my eligibility. Is it normal for it to take this long? I thought it said an answer in sixty seconds. Perhaps I'm a complicated case, LOL.

    • ezza on 08/01/2016 - 23:11
      +1

      Same thing happened to me, i called the next day and the agent told me it was approved and card will be out in days to me.
      This was followed by a text message saying it was all approved.
      Call them on 1300 557 743

      • R1ngSt1nger on 11/01/2016 - 09:18

        Thanks, just called them and they said it was approved immediately and is being sent out.

  • roseXivy on 09/01/2016 - 05:41

    Will they charge the first year annual fee right away, or can I cancel this card after 364 days :)

    Thank you…

    • ezza on 11/01/2016 - 19:24

      Every credit card company who has annual fee charges on the 1st statement.
      By cancelling 364 days later you are avoiding the next year's annual fee charge.

      • roseXivy on 11/01/2016 - 21:18

        Thank you!!

  • wcm8382 on 10/01/2016 - 19:07

    Does anyone here have any experience with getting the sign-up bonus who also happen to have a David Jones AMEX storecard (the one with no annual fee)?

  • strikerzebra on 13/01/2016 - 10:51

    Good deal if you are considering travelling in the next year, are the lounge passes valid for 1 year??

    • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 15/01/2016 - 09:43

      Generally a year or more, but there's no rule to it. I got some from Westpac last year with a two year expiry. YMMV

  • kanad on 13/01/2016 - 20:21

    Applied last Friday, not instantly approved online, but called them up and they said it has been approved and ,ailed, received today. Very good deal. And yes I already had other bank issued amex card, so it is not an issue.

  • nightelves on 14/01/2016 - 15:42

    Does anyone know if the complimentary card gives you airport lounge as well?

    • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 15/01/2016 - 16:11

      Doubt it. It's two passes on your first Qantas spend each year.

  • R1ngSt1nger on 18/01/2016 - 11:13

    Did anyone else get a 5,000 bonus points for card activation? Just checked my points statement, and on the very first transaction it has an activation bonus.
    I wonder if this is in addition to the 80k points, or part of it.

    • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 18/01/2016 - 11:15
      +1

      Pretty sure it's part of it.

      • wizzlesticks on 22/01/2016 - 05:14

        I got that bonus too, but no it's not supposed to be part of this deal… I looked into it and saw that the 5,000 activation bonus applies to the Ultimate card sign-up offer. But the Ultimate card has only 50,000 rather than 80,000 in total sign-up bonii. So we definitely need to make sure Amex follows through with the Premium sign-up offer, as their might be a glitch in which offer is being applied to our accounts.

  • nightelves on 18/01/2016 - 11:48

    Dang for $249 annual I got a return flight to Vietnam and another one way on top. Decent value if I say so myself. All thanks to Ozbargain.

    No just need to test JohnHowardsEyebrows strategy for those two Qantas lounge passes and I'm set.

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