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Panasonic C2.5kw H3.2kw Reverse Cycle Split System AC - $537.60 (after $100 C/B) @The Good Guys eBay Store

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$797 before cashback (also available in store) is the cheapest I can currently find, and less than what I paid a few months ago. Price was $899 just a few days ago.

I've got 2 of these in my current home, and 2 of a previous generation in my previous home. Link to product info.

$797 before cashback
less 20% ebay discount ($159.40) - Original eBay 20% off The Good Guys/KG Electronic deal post
less cashback from Panasonic ($100)
= $537.60

For those in SEQ, if you install a peaksmart device you can get another $100 cashback. Not sure if there are similar schemes in other places.

And another $9.99 from cashrewards. So $427.61 net if you utilise all the above.

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  • Don't forget to add $75.84 postage costs from eBay store…..

    • Can collect from store.

      • How big are the boxes? Would they fit in a honda accord? I am confused between delivery/pick-up. thanks

        • No, the outdoor unit is quite big. I have a Panasonic reverse split system albeit a different model.

        • @xiangtan: thanks!

        • @xiangtan:

          Wrong it will fit into a standard car. One unit in the boot and the other unit in the back seat.

        • I believe the outdoor unit box might be a tight squeeze. I also picked up the unit from TGG but had to ask a friend to take the outdoor unit in his Territory.

        • This is the size of the outdoor unit without packaging: 542(H) x 780(W) x 289(D). With packaging you would find it hard to squeeze it into the boot of Accord

        • @cool_ice6:

          The outdoor unit will fit in the back seat. It might be too high for some cars to fit into the boot but will definitely fit in the back seat of all standard cars.

          Just make sure you are not bringing any back seat passengers when picking this up.

        • @wildstone: the boot of the accord is quite narrow I would say.

        • @stockastics:

          The indoor unit should fit into the boot then. The outdoor unit can be in the back seat.

        • Last time I put one into my Audi A4 without any problems. Accord should be fine.

        • I rocked a mini once
          Outdoor unit fits on the front seat with the back rest wound back.

          It will fit in a an accord easily.

  • Anyone knows the cheapest way to make this work with WiFi?

    • It's already got a wireless controller.

      Or do you mean controlling it when not at home?
      - if so, what you want to do - just On/Off?

      • Yes I mean controlling it via Wifi so the possibility is endless:

        • control remotely anywhere
        • control from phone
        • It does not have WiFi.

        • @cool_ice6:

          I know, but anyway to make it work with WiFi? Like getting a Wifi IR blaster or some sort?

        • @wildstone: Hmmm that would be interesting.

        • @wildstone:

          Yes I mean controlling it via Wifi so the possibility is endless:
          • control remotely anywhere
          • control from phone

          Controlling via WiFi doesn't necessarily mean you can access remotely. There's some network security issues that need to be managed in order to make that safe.

          The more important question is why you'd want to control an air-conditioner's advanced functions using a phone. Do you intend to taunt residents with radical temperature changes, etc when you are out of the house?

          I know, but anyway to make it work with WiFi? Like getting a Wifi IR blaster or some sort?

          There are absolutely heaps of different ways using IR blasters, etc.

          Like all add-on kludges, none will be as elegant or work as quickly and easily as simply buying a product that already has the features that you would like.

        • I have one of these working perfectly with my Panasonic Air Con in the living room:

          https://www.ambiclimate.com/

          The great thing about it is that it works with different models and you can take it with you if you move.

        • @llama:

          The most common one would be so you could turn on the air-con when you are about to get home so room can be at the desired temperature when you are home.

          The other common one would be so you could turn if off if you ever forgot to turn it off when you leave home.

          As long as it can be controlled via WiFi, it will be controllable remotely - via VPN etc, one thing at a time.

          Yeah I know of these wifi-ir thing, there's tons in the market, but I just like some inputs from people who are actually using one at the moment with this ac.

        • @VlVh:

          Thanks VIVh, it's quite steep though, almost half the price of the AC. Anyone has any cheaper alternative that will work well?

        • @wildstone:

          @wildstone:

          The most common one would be so you could turn on the air-con…

          The other common one would be so you could turn if off…

          Which is why I asked the question back up there

          Thanks VIVh, it's quite steep though, almost half the price of the AC. Anyone has any cheaper alternative that will work well?

          Simple - buy an Air Conditioer with WiFi.

          I've been peripherally involved with similar things for about 20 years. Generally, any form of "kludged together" home automation is a disaster. It is so much easier just buying what you need, or making your needs more "real world".

          Having IR blasters shooting at fixed installed products with wires and controls and wifi modules and dealing with power supplies and getting it to work and learning IR codes and dealing with Macros and what to do with codes that toggle (non-unique) and putting it together and making it family friendly and …

          … stuff that for a joke, especially when you are simply trying to emulate the operation of something that's off-the-shelf and works straight out of the box at the same cost or lower.

        • @llama:

          Simple - buy an Air Conditioer with WiFi.

          Yes of course, however we are talking about solution after the fact though. I'm generally asking if there is a practical and cost effective way to 'WiFi' an AC that is not currently able to do so. You wouldn't suggest/expect everyone who currently has a working AC to ditch and replace just to have WiFi function.

        • -1

          @wildstone:

          I'm generally asking if there is a practical and cost effective way to 'WiFi' an AC that is not currently able to do so

          You were specifically asking Anyone knows the cheapest way to make this work with WiFi? in a thread about a BRAND NEW air conditioner.

          Anyway, if you want a cheap and effective remote control, get one of these…
          https://youtu.be/d3rfaCfImwE

    • Sensibo or Tado

    • +1

      buy one of these and put it near the aircon

      http://www.banggood.com/Broadlink-Black-Bean-Smart-Home-Wifi…

      $11usd

      • Thanks~ Reasonably priced and review seems good. Have you personally used it? Can you provide your review?

        PS: Any banggood coupon code to make it even cheaper ? :)

        • not that i found. just PM the banggood rep on ozbargain

          Its only $10 though!

          plenty of reviews online

        • @furythree:

          It's $10 USD which is like $17!!!

          I've bought it, see how it goes. Thanks for that fury.

  • +1

    No way would I sign up to peaksmart.

    Good price, Panasonic a great air cons. 2.5 is a good bedroom size.

    • I would take the $100. Unless your way underpowered you won't notice.

    • Bought the unit 3 months back under a similar eBay sale. Apart from a few cons like no backlit remote and random creaking noise occurring due to temperature variation of internal parts after turning off the unit on a cold winter night, the unit performs very well and very efficiently.

    • I did a more detailed comparison (of specs) a few years back on previous generation models. Didn't look as closely when I got the current generation units this year. Can't comment about actual performance as I only have the Panasonics, but generally I think the Panasonics have a bit better specs and reputation than Fujitsu, and more or less on par with MHI.

  • +3

    Very happy with the one we got installed about 6 months ago. Relatively quiet,.

    Bought under a 20% off GG ebay special, unfortunately no rebate.

    Ordered for pickup at store, Good guys then offered an install for $550, and arranged date for installation.

    Also the installer picked up the unit rather than me.

    • -4

      How much was installation?

      • +4

        As mentioned above $550

        • Thanks, misread it.

        • @justmiike: No problem, however each GG store might have a different price, they all have different installers. Mine just also happened to be the local authorised panasonic service agent as well. But contracts to GG for all installs

  • -1

    Search comments on peaksmart, you will see people complaining that on some peak usage, it feels like just like a fan and no cooling is happening.

    • +1

      That's what peak smart is basically. Allowing power company to stop your cooling (or heating) anytime they deem needed - peak heat is when you want yours working. $100 for life is not much.

      • -1

        Incorrect it throttles the output down on certain channels for say 10 mins in the hour on maybe one hot day a year. It's Money for jam on a bedroom air-conditioning unless you plan on sleeping from 5 pm to 8pm.

        If your units are sized right you won't notice. I have two big 7kw in main area of house on separate peaksmart Channels so when one gets capped the other just picks up the slack and vice versa. Again network peak is 5pm to 8pm so you won't be using a bedroom system for any peaksmart channel runs

      • -1

        It's not supposed to stop your AC from working, just throttles the energy consumption so you won't get full capacity while it's activated.

        PeakSmart air-conditioning helps reduce peak demand without affecting your air-conditioner's performance. It operates similar to the economy setting of an air-conditioner. The energy consumption is capped for short periods on a few days of the year and the system continues to produce cool air.

        To me it makes sense for bedroom systems as sillyhead says above. Other motivations may be purely $ driven (cash in my pocket), or environmental etc. But to each their own… it's an entirely opt in thing.

  • +2

    max 4 units cashback claimable

    This is as low as they get for anyone considering buying it. Previous deal last year was for the same

    • -1

      It's 5, maybe more.

      Households and businesses can claim up to five rewards per premise for any type of PeakSmart enabled air-conditioner where a signal receiver is installed, numbers greater than this will be reviewed and approved at the discretion of Energex.

      • +1

        I think he was referring to the panasonic cashback:
        https://promotions.panasonic.com.au/airconbonus/TNC2.aspx

        8: A maximum of four (4) claims may be submitted per household; per name; per address and per email address subject to the following: (a) only one (1) claim permitted per specified purchase requirement; and (b) each claim must be submitted separately and in accordance with claim requirements.

        • Ahh… my bad.

  • Word of caution - Reading the Panasonic Cash back T&C's, I'm not sure the Ebay purchase is eligible: "7.Purchases of Eligible Products must be made at a participating Panasonic retailer or Panasonic Specialist Air Network dealer / installer. Online purchases (including purchases via eBay) are not eligible. Claimants must have fully paid for the Eligible Product before they are eligible to submit a claim."

    • Wasn't an issue for me. I've received (and spent) money for 2 claims on the current promotion for Panasonic units purchased via The Good Guys' ebay store. You get an invoice from The Good Guys, and use that for proof of purchase. No mention of ebay on that document.

    • +1

      GG's (click and collect) give you a tax invoice that doesn't even mention eBay, nor the 20% discount for that matter, so claiming the cashback hasn't been an issue for me in the past. Also, unless you live in the middle of nowhere, ask your installer to collect the unit on your behalf from GG's, saves you a lot of hassle and I'm sure most installers would be happy to oblige.

  • hello guys, anyone knows how long/how easy for the good guy ebay store to take change of mind refund? and what is thw procedure? thanks heaps.

  • "Online purchases (including purchases via eBay) are not eligible."
    Quoted from Teams and Conditions section 7!
    https://promotions.panasonic.com.au/airconbonus/TNC2.aspx

    • +4

      If you do click & collect, they will hand you a TGG invoice which can be used to file the cashback.
      edit: But you are correct, it is possible that they may refuse it if they find out it was an ebay purchase.

    • +1

      Well spotted.

    • Unless these are new terms and conditions, I got 2x $100 eftpos cards last year after ordering 2x 2.6kw Panasonic units from good guys' eBay store. I click and collected them and they issued me with a receipt. On the receipt the only thing that gives away that it was an online purchase is that it says "sales person: web s". You could probably get them to change it if you are concerned.

      • Yes this issue was raised last year and I didn't see any reports of customers not getting their rebates from TGG eBay CandC purchases.

      • -1

        On the receipt the only thing that gives away that it was an online purchase is that it says "sales person: web s". You could probably get them to change it if you are concerned

        Ever heard of a olden day product called "White Out" ??

        • Thanks llama face. I think you are missing the point. Let's say hypothetically that there was a person at Panasonic looking through recipes to see if there was an yindication that the appliance was purchased online and they know to look at the "sales person" section and notice that hey it's blank, that's dodgy lets reject the offer due to a sus blob of white out. When it would be far easier to ask the staff at TGG when picking up the item if they can write "Philip J Fry" as your sales person.

        • @Lizard Spock:

          Yeah godzilla ears, that might happen.

          However I reckon you are making a massive assumption that the people processing claims actually give a 5h!7.

        • @llama:

          The Fujitsu claim processor is meticulous- see forum. No reason why the Panasonic claim-checkers won't enforce their own rules this season and bang goes your $100. I don't like leaving things to chance, even on a racetrack.

        • @shaybisc:

          Yes, I agree 100% with you that with $100 at stake it's unwise to push the envelope too far with a potentially rejectable claim. However I have no idea why you are talking about Fujitsu - this is PANASONIC.

          In any case, you kind of miss the point I was trying to make. I was making a general comment, so I should explain my reasoning…

          I can understand them rejecting claims when there is information provided that triggers a rejection. For example, there might be a criteria that "on Bing Lee receipts, if it says 'ebay' in this field, reject it". The claim checkers will have an assessment criteria list and will be following that to the letter…. which is 100% fair enough.

          However they are unlikely to reject based on missing data or a blank field. And it's almost 100% certain that they won't have access to the original company receipts to cross-check and compare to determine if a receipt has been "doctored" in some way. So, a well done modification might make a technically-unacceptable claim have more chance of success.

          Anyway, manufacturer has their reasons for making this only for in-store sales - I assume this is because it is a promotion that is targeted to those bricks and mortar retailers for various reasons.

          I guess my attitude is that the manufacturer shouldn't really give a hoot whether the retailer sold it online or as a walk-in sale. All the air conditioners were purchased by the retailer, so the manufacturer got the same money. If online sales didn't exist, then every single A/C would be a potential cashback claim. So, who cares how the retailer sold it?

          Can bypass it other ways - Do you buy online for Click and Collect. Walk into store. Cancel order. Re-purchase from floor staff as a price match. Win.

    • @hotwinter you've only quoted part of section 7. Do you know for sure that this trumps what comes before? I've given a fuller comment / thoughts on the topic here.

      • Of cause not for sure. That's why I wish to point it out for people don't want to risk or wish to dig deeper.

        • Ok just checking, cos I assume you've negged the deal for this specific reason (not eligible for cashback), like it's a statement of fact.

        • @quop: The reason of Neg is because of the uncertainty of the deal.

        • @hotwinter: Ok. I trust that the additional information I and others have provided were useful in addressing that uncertainty.

        • @quop: until someone finally got the $100…

        • @hotwinter: your neg was after my earlier comment stating I've already made a successful claim myself, so I thought you had some counter evidence.

    • +1

      I got the cashback when I purchased the Panasonic unit from TGG during the last eBay 20% sale. Also before buying it at that time I'd got Panasonic support confirm the eligibility of TGG eBay purchases :)

      • Good work. Was this confirmation verbal? If you have anything in writing maybe put up a screenshot or something for the information/benefit/reassurance of others considering a similar purchase.

  • +1

    so the installation fee $550 is more than the actual air condition?

    • -1

      Anything lower than this mark will risk the quality of installation.

      • Nope. i paid $450 for top quality installation. Of course if you insist to pay $550 for your peace of mind thats fine too.

    • It is entirely possible that the labour to install something can cost more than the thing itself.

  • +1

    There's ambiguity in clause 7 of the Panasonic cashback T&C. If you buy this deal as posted, it would be a purchase

    made at a participating Panasonic retailer or Panasonic Specialist Air Network dealer / installer.

    as it's ultimately a purchase from TGG (who advertise this AC on their own website as eligible for cashback). On this basis I would say the purchase is eligible.

    Being a purchase made via TGG's official ebay store, it is also in the category of

    Online purchases (including purchases via eBay)

    which are not eligible. Does the second condition (ineligibility) negate/override the first (eligibility)? It's a possible interpretation, but certainly not the only one.

    That's the theoretical argument, and somewhere else in the T&Cs it says something like Panasonic's decision is final. So I can understand doubts about the cashback claim succeeding. Maybe the clause dates from before stores like TGG were active on ebay, was meant to exclude private/non-business sales from eligibility, and has just never been updated to cater for scenarios like this. The only way to be sure is to get clarification from Panasonic, so if anyone feels strongly enough about this, please do so and report back.

    The practical argument is that, as I and other unrelated parties have attested to, C&C purchases via TGG's ebay store have been approved for cashback claims (for this current promotion, and the equivalent last year). I don't know if the invoicing for non-C&C purchases might somehow be different.

    At the end of day, if you are considering this model AC, you could

    1. Buy it via ebay, be 100% certain of getting 20% off (save $159.40), and <100% certain of getting the cashback (save $100)
    2. Buy it direct from TGG, be 100% certain of getting the cashback (save $100), and have 100% certainty of not getting the ebay discount

    Personally I know what I would (and did previously) go with.

    • Or buy the Fujitsu and be sure of both, unless you are running a business from home.

      • MHI is another option for those who aren't set on Panasonic.

  • Thanks for posting… I was looking at getting the 5kW Panasonic model (for my apartment living room) a few months back during a similar promotion. I paid for my order but something f*d up with ebay or paypal and my order didn't go through. TGG ran out of stock (well it wasn't on their website) so I couldn't order it. Thought I missed out. Was going to get it last weekend when CLICK20 started but now the price on the 5kW model is $100 cheaper so I just pulled the trigger.

    • Glad it's worked out for you. I got this and a 7kW last time. Bought the 2.5kW first but couldn't pay when I wanted the 7kW - not enough funds on CC and for some reason paypal wouldn't let me use my bank as funding source. Couldn't get help as it was the last night of the promo and all human contact options for ebay/paypal were offline for the day. Did send a message to ebay though and they gave me a code to use for 20% off, which allowed me time to add funds to the CC and still get the 7kW unit with discount.

  • +1

    Comparing the other models in GG, this model is one of the most energy efficient models (especially heating capability).

    This was taken at Masters but show the energy efficiency and spec:-

    http://s33.postimg.org/ahlr3ow7j/20160609_200528.jpg

    I agree with the T & C that there is a chance that you will not get the $100 from Panasonic. People have mentioned that they never had problems in previous Panasonic Air Conditioner promotions but looking at cache Terms and Conditions, they didn't mention 'not applicable to item purchased via ebay'. If there is any way that Panasonic can confirm the purchase was via ebay from the receipt or cross reference with GG, I'm sure it will be rejected.
    Think I will try tomorrow anyway :)

    Old Cached Panasonic Air Conditioner promotions with no ebay mention:-
    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8WDOpy…

    • +1

      Clause 18?

      • Quop - Good Pickup, eagle eyes!

        For those too lazy to look

        18 Eligible purchases must be made at an authorised Panasonic participating dealer. Online purchases (including purchases via eBay) are not eligible. Claimants must have fully paid for the participating product before they are eligible to submit a claim.

        • +1

          Haha no eagle eyes mate, just "find in page" on Chrome :)

      • I stand corrected! - missed that quop, therefore is a chance that will get the $100 C/B. Going to buy one now anyway as need one.

        • +1

          Personally I think your chances are good :)

  • +8

    Dear Ozbargainers,

    I spoke to the operator on 1800 023 836 (Panasonic Promotion Team) to confirm if EBAY purchases are eligible, the response was "TGG being a major retailer, purchases from Ebay are surely eligible for cashback". Hope that helps.

  • +1

    Just bought this 2.5kw & a 7kw unit. Full price on TGG ebay site was $2443, after all rebates & discounts ( listed above), final cost will be $1323 give or take a dollar according to my calculations. Saved $1120 - and was quoted $1100 for installing 2 units last month. Happy with this post, cheers op & to ODDBOX for above comment re cashback…. Happy days.

    • Good one, same combo I got a few months ago.

  • Have had this air con in the past. Quiet and powerful. Does creak a little with temperature changes.
    Have purchased another.

  • +1

    Hi Ozbargainers,

    Thanks for posting this deal OP. I thought I'd let all those interested know that I purchased through this deal, submitted details for cashback and just received an email from Panasonic confirming bonus gift card. Cheers.

    • Also had my confirmation email about a week ago. Still waiting for the gift card.

      Air con has been installed and works really well!

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