Great knife for emergency. It has some great reviews on YouTube and other places.best quality for its price.
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Ganzo G727M - BK Foldable Knife $9.76 USD (~ $13.53 AUD) @ Everbuying
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I had it for few months now. It's good built quality, very sharp.
Hi Kurupted, how can I get $2 off? I registered but I couldn't get it.
Use the 100 free points that they give you when you register.
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Looks fine to me. I kind of prefer mine with a bit extra like a bottle opener/flat blade/can opener.
I read a few stories about knives with axis-lock got seized by Australian Customs because they "can be opened with one hand".
Here is one example.
I read a few stories about knives with axis-lock got seized by Australian Customs because they "can be opened with one hand".
In the nanny country pretty much everything is banned or illegal so some will be stopped by customs whereas most will get through. The knife laws are not clear not are they applied in a consistent manner.
Living in a third world country for a few years will change your opinion. Thanks all gods for this nanny state you talk about.
Living in a third world country for a few years will change your opinion. Thanks all gods for this nanny state you talk about.
I'm not sure how you equated my comments to a third world country but Australia has far too many laws that infringe on our quality of life and freedoms. These are everywhere from parking regulations which are overly complex to excessive regulation for business. Look at the parking regulations around Brisbane especially Milton on game days and how these impact on residents, businesses and of course customers.
St Petersburg for example has free on street parking, no dozens of unsightly parking signs every block and it just works.
This is one example out of many in how we are over regulated and taxed at every turn.
Forget cracker night, that's banned as well.
Look at the parking regulations around Brisbane especially Milton on game days…
Mav, i don't know this guy Milton that you speak of, but just because Milton had trouble on game day doesn't mean you should be mean and angry just because you got a parking fine.
Forget cracker night, that's banned as well.
Umm, yeah Mav, as kids were getting blinded.
Mav, are you one of these bedwetters who bang on about the Nanny State all day, but also one of the first to sue when they are adversely affected by someone elses conduct? Bet good money you are Mav.
Mav, i don't know this guy Milton that you speak of, but just because Milton had trouble on game day doesn't mean you should be mean and angry just because you got a parking fine.
I've never had a parking fine but it doesn't change the fact that parking is a mess and all they do is constantly add more signage and add more complexity along with increasing fines.
Umm, yeah Mav, as kids were getting blinded.
What is so special about Australia that our children are so stupid? Crackers are freely available all across the world but here in Australia we have to regulate them into oblivion.
Mav, are you one of these bedwetters who bang on about the Nanny State all day, but also one of the first to sue when they are adversely affected by someone elses conduct? Bet good money you are Mav.
Not very smart are you, perhaps you should travel and see that Australia is the only country that constantly adds regulation, fines and red tape when education is the answer. Victoria has a good example with their absurd target ZERO road death campaign. It's people like you that are the problem, unable to accept responsibility for your own actions.
What is so special about Australia that our children are so stupid?
Umm, you assume that kids internationally don't encounter the same problems, when they do. You're big on assertion Mav, but not so much on evidence or logic.
Not very smart are you…
I am highly intelligent Mav. Huge brain.
…perhaps you should travel and see that Australia is the only country that constantly adds regulation…
Regulation is there to protect us from ning nongs like you Mav. Your red tape is my safety measure.
Turn and burn Mav.
Umm, you assume that kids internationally don't encounter the same problems, when they do. You're big on assertion Mav, but not so much on evidence or logic.
I never said they don't encounter similar problems but dealing with a problem by regulation and fines doesn't work. Fire crackers are enjoyed all over the world except Australia.
I am highly intelligent Mav. Huge brain.
Yeah….. clearly…..
Regulation is there to protect us from ning nongs like you Mav. Your red tape is my safety measure.
You mean like regulation that doesn't allow anyone in Australia to work on their own electrical wiring? So how do you explain Australia having the highest electrical fatalities in the world compared to other first world countries with this regulation in place? NZ allows you to do your own electrical work and their death rate is around half ours.
So good work Brainiac, your over the top regulation once more costs lives but to people like you it's all worth it.
So how do you explain Australia having the highest electrical fatalities in the world compared to other first world countries
I've just been searching for fifteen minutes, and have not found any statistics like that. Where did you get them? I did find statistics saying the rate of accidental electrocution is just under 1 per million per year for Australia, and just over 1 for the US.
New Zealand uses exactly the same electrical system as Australia, so I can't see how there could be a significant difference.
I did however find multiple sources saying that the rate of "deaths attributed to electricity" vary widely by country, reportedly because of some countries' tendencies to classify unexplained fires as "electrical fault".
I've just been searching for fifteen minutes, and have not found any statistics like that. Where did you get them? I did find statistics saying the rate of accidental electrocution is just under 1 per million per year for Australia, and just over 1 for the US.
ABS is one source for the statistics.
All the info you need is here.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/ozbapi/node/253092/listcomments…
New Zealand uses exactly the same electrical system as Australia, so I can't see how there could be a significant difference.
New Zealand allows you to work on your wiring, Australia does not. New Zealand has far lower deaths as a result and this started dropping immediately after the regulation was dropped.
Mav, mate, you did hear about the guys that were electrocuted when trying to install insulation yeah? If i recall correctly some of that roof wiring was performed illegally. Are the dead guys dummies Mav? You think these dead guys are stupid?
That's the basic problem with your mindset Mav. It's the implied notion that only stupid people die, but that's not the case. People make mistakes, all the time, and the less trained and experienced you are, the more likely you'll make a mistake. And that mistake might cost someone else their life, or your own life. That's why we have regulations - some might go too far, some may not go far enough - but generally they seek to strike a balance. You're not too balanced are you bro?
You're a 24 carat ning nong Mav, and to be clear i haven't really been writing all this for you as i consider you a lost cause. I've been writing for others listening, as i don't want them contracting your delusional mindset.
Turn & burn Mav.
Mav, mate, you did hear about the guys that were electrocuted when trying to install insulation yeah? Are they dummies? You think these dead guys are stupid?
Putting a metal staple through conductive foil that you are kneeling on into electrical cable is stupid. Install conductive foil into a roof space over joists is stupid.
That's the basic problem with your mindset Mav. It's the implied notion that only stupid people die, but that's not the case.
People die everyday, we can educate and accept that some deaths will happen but legislation and regulation does nothing.
You're not too balanced are you bro?
Is that really the best you have? You've posted no facts, no statistics and aside from personal attacks you have contributed nothing.
You're a dummy Mav, and to be clear i haven't really been writing all this for you, but for others listening, as i don't want them catching your delusions.
The real reason is that you don't want people to think for themselves and question why we have so many laws.
Now Mav, it's time to go to your room and take your medication like your mummy told you earlier.
Go on, don't be a ning nong. You know what happened last time when you were off your meds.Now Mav, it's time to go to your room and take your medication like your mummy told you earlier.
Go on, don't be a ning nong. You know what happened last time when you were off your meds.Says it all really.
All the info you need is here.
None of that has actual numbers. It's all just the opinions of members of the public, commenting, and they don't even agree. There apparently are numbers in one of the links, which is only accessible if you are an employee of the South Australian government. I'm not.
None of that has actual numbers. It's all just the opinions of members of the public, commenting, and they don't even agree.
What part of the following is hard to understand? The rest is not relevant as it's a UK discussion. The PDF worked last month when I posted it but if you want more detail you can look at the ABS data.
"For some reason the governments impact assesment forgot to look at the fact that restricting DIY fixed wiring actually makes things less safe, rather than more. This is because of increasing the number of extension cables and adapters in use, which are far more likely to fail than fixed wiring, however badly done.
This is not some idle rant, the case of Australia and New Zealand shows it nicely.
Until 1992, both countries had identical wiring rules, and wiring was strictly a closed shop preserve of registered electricians. In 1992, despite union predictions of doom and gloom, the New Zealand government decided to permit housholders to do their own wiring.
In Austrlia however, the situation has remained as it always was, and the public cannot even buy a mains plug or a lamp holder without a union card.
The effect is that New Zealand is the safer place now, almost in the ratio 3:2, and here is the data to back up that seemingly surprising statement.For a coarse summary of accident data see the appendix of the Australian Technical Regulator's report here
http://www.technicalregulator.sa.gov.au/images/pdfs/TRElec04…
If you are in a hurry skip to pages 82 to 84. If you take the total Australia rate (accidents per million per year, ) and the New Zealand rates and process them in the same way, then the most striking quantity to calculate from the data is the average over the last 7 years, (remember the more relaxed New Zealand only existed since 1992).
The 7 year average accident rate is now in the ratio of roughly 2:3 in favour of New Zealand being the safer place. (This is of course after you have compensated for different population sizes by comparing accident rates per million of population per year.)This is not the full story, as you need to separate accidents from fixed wiring versus extension leads and appliences to explain why this is happening, - for which you need to delve here for the raw data http://www.ess.govt.nz/safety/safety_electricity.asp
By reading all the accident descriptions and then discounting the 'not at home' accidents occuring to maintainence workers on overhead pylons etc, you can separate out domestic accidents due to fixed wiring versus those caused by etension flexes and portables, but it is rather tedious.
But to cut a long story short, it seems that once you look at it this way, the figures are roughly in the same ratio as the UK, namely that fixed wiring is NOT responsible for 80% or so of the domestic electrical accidents.
And then Pro rata, the country allowing DIY wiring has become safer in the ratio of 3:2 approx, since deregulation. "
I did get a customs letter once for importing another knife. It basically says "we took the knife because you can't import these to australia. If you think we've made a mistake then call, if not then dont worry about it." I did nothing and never heard anything from them again.
I did get a customs letter once for importing another knife. It basically says "we took the knife because you can't import these to australia. If you think we've made a mistake then call, if not then dont worry about it." I did nothing and never heard anything from them again.
Except you're on the list now and they can prosecute without warning for any future imports. Australia the nanny country.
Except you're on the list now and they can prosecute without warning for any future imports. Australia the nanny country.
Except they've already indicated that they won't be taking it further. Mav the bedwetting ning nong.
Except they've already indicated that they won't be taking it further. Mav the bedwetting ning nong.
That's right they won't take it any further but if you come to their attention again the previous warning will be taken into account and they may prosecute.
Not over a little knife Mav, that you can source here just as easily.
They'll have bigger fish to fry.Senator Eric Abetz is talking on the TV.
Are you his love child?Not over a little knife Mav, that you can source here just as easily.
They'll have bigger fish to fry.Why don't you tell the following people that (there are plenty more including a man that spent many tens of thousands fighting customs in court and losing). Your logic (or lack thereof) would also mean that the Police do not prosecute any smaller crimes when they have open murders.
TREVOR ROY WEST
and
AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMS & BORDER PROTECTION SERVICEWAYNE JEAN
and
AUSTRALIAN CUSTOMSYou're such a dummy Mav - quoting the names of cases without even attempting to make clear how they relate to any argument. What are you saying? That there's been a conviction so it's all bad? WTF?
Let's cover the first case:
Trevor Roy West v Australian Customs & Border Protection Services [2013] QDC 18.
This is an appeal from the QLD Magistrates Court (not reported, so we don't have all the facts) determined in the QLD District Court.
It involves a breach of cl 4(1) Customs (Prohibited Imports) Regulations 1956 (Cth), which states:
The importation into Australia of the goods specified in Schedule 2 is prohibited unless the permission in writing of the Minister or an authorised person to import the goods has been granted.
The case mentioned Item 19 of the Schedule, which has since been deleted from the Regulation so you won't find it here, but you will find it in an older version of Schedule 2 around the time of the case which you'll find here, and it says:
Flick knives or similar devices, made of any material, that have a blade folded or recessed into the handle which opens automatically by:
(a) gravity or centrifugal force; or
(b) pressure applied to a button, spring or device in or attached to the handle of the deviceTrevor tried to dodge the conviction by banging on about the definition of centrifugal force, but it didn't work - the knives he imported were clearly flick knives - able to be opened by a flick of the wrist. When i was last on the street they were the weapon of choice.
How many did he import? Dunno. Has he tried to import them before? Dunno. But i'd bet good money it was a number of knives for commercial purposes. Maybe he was a bikie - i dunno, but it's good to see him go down as i don't want too many flick knives on the street.
Don't have time for the second case Mav - you can do that one.
Sorry Mav, but bedwetters like you just aren't competition for my big brain.
You're such a dummy Mav - quoting the names of cases without even attempting to make clear how they relate to any argument. What are you saying? That there's been a conviction so it's all bad? WTF?
You claimed that customs don't convict people for importing small numbers of knives, you were proven wrong yet again so keep backpedaling whilst feeling protected by all the laws, regulation, legislation and red tape that we have.
Trevor tried to dodge the conviction by banging on about the definition of centrifugal force, but it didn't work - the knives he imported were clearly flick knives - able to be opened by a flick of the wrist. When i was last on the street they were the weapon of choice.
Actually the case was involving the personal importation of folding knives and the possible interference with them by customs to open them with one hand.
http://www.australianbladeforums.com/vb4/general-blade-discu…
You claimed that customs don't convict people for importing small numbers of knives…
That discussion didn't involve a flick knife.
Actually the case was involving the personal importation of folding knives…
Your link leads to the following statement:
Likewise, make a note that the ban on importation of knives that open by virtue of centrifugal force has been made on account of an administrative decision of an unelected official.
He's obviously not a very good lawyer as this statement is factually incorrect. The prohibition is in legislation - the Customs Policy is just their interpretation of the law, but it's not the law. The case helped clarify what the law is, and it boundaries.
Knives that open via Centrifugal force are otherwise known as flick knives. They are banned. If you want them, start lobbying government to change the law instead of constantly wetting the bed.
@Maverick-au:
Mav: my 2 cents – just get off the train.Here's my three word slogan: Stop the trolls.
Love the way you adopted my 'Mav'.
Beautiful.The more Mav bites, the more of a ning nong he shows himself to be.
Folding knife import laws were recently changed in December 2015.
Single hand opening knives are now permitted for import. Assisted opening knives (spring assisted, auto, etc) are still banned.
Never understood the one hand rule myself. You can keep a steak knife in your belt or a karambit around your neck and have those both out and ready with one hand… but if you can pull it out of your pocket and then flick it open it's a threat to society.. isn't that an extra step to draw the blade? Or am I missing something
And the folder is more likely to break if you actually use it to stab someone. I think the flick knife laws stem from hysteria surrounding juvenile delinquents causing the downfall of society and they couldn't outlaw leather jackets so here we are.
I have this knife and it's very good value. Heavy and chunky but well built for the price. A++++ would buy again.
IMO "flick knife" was just a catchy phrase used by politicians for generating election noise.
I remember a few years back some politician promised to ban 30 something new types of knives if elected. His opponent then made a press release promising to ban 50 something types. I had a look at their lists and most of them didn't even exist or were just generic terms like "fighting knives" or "stabbing knives". At least 2 people actually got paid to sit there and make up knife names.
I can't see the camouflage option.
It's that digital camo you use for hiding from keyboard warriors.
These are illegal, I'm willing to show documents where I was charged with about 150 separate charges of possession of illegal weapons for having knives with thumb studs.
Because of the thumb studs they can be opened like this and are considered illegal if they can be opened with 1 hand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGWdaBlxj4M
If its your first offence you will just get a letter, but I had about 50 letters and kept buying them only to have customs rock up at about 6am with guns out and vests on and they had warrants for my house, my mothers house and 2 of my brothers houses.
No, these are no longer illegal to import. As stated in previous comments the legislation was changed in December 2015. One hand opening knives like this one are fine to import now.
This PDF is direct from Border and Customs- the federal department that makes the laws about what you can and can't import. It describes the changes:https://www.border.gov.au/Customsnotices/Documents/2015-40.p…
HOWEVER, from the sounds of your post:
-You imported quite a lot of them
-You imported them prior to the change in legislation (otherwise you wouldn't get the letters you described).Hence customs showing up to your house.
Yeah it was well over a year ago now, thanks for the info.
Although I'm not interested in this knife I wish I knew sooner, there is quite a few flippers I'd love to buy.
It's welcome news to be sure- common sense prevails. The very idea that folding knives are somehow more dangerous than any other kind of knife and therefore must be banned is bizarre.
Before the legislation changed there was at least a few loop holes anyway. For example, even when all one hand opening knives were banned, you were still allowed to import multi-tools (there was a specific mention in the legislation that multi-tools were fine to import). The funny thing is, a number of Leatherman multi-tools (Wave, Surge, Skeletool, OHT) have one-hand opening blades! Yet these were fine to import.
Myself, I got one letter from customs for a knife I purchased on ebay. I'd done my research and was convinced that it was not one-hand openable (I forget the exact model, but the blade simply had a nick in it for opening with a fingernail, like you'd find on a swiss army knife). However, the customs person who inspected it decided that it could be opened with one hand, so instead of my knife I got a letter telling me what a bad boy I'd been.
Anyhow, all that's in the past now :-) For people thinking about other one-hand opening folders a couple I'd suggest are:
Ontario rat 1 (about $30 delivered via ebay). Fantastic, often recommended EDC knife
Sanrenmu 7010 (about $15 delivered via ebay). Pretty much the best bang for buck you'll find.
So the customs came into your house disrespected your whole family?
wow hes blade is way to lose! Just because it has a thumb stud doesn't mean you only need one hand to open the blade! All of my Ganzo's will not open one handed unless you do work to them! Only way to make it open one handed would be to loosen the blade which is dangerous.
Huh? The whole point of a thumb stub is so you can open the blade with one hand.
…customs rock up a about 6am with guns out and vests on and they had warrants for my house, my mothers house and 2 of my brothers houses…
Holy crap.
That's ludicrous as i know you're a lovely human being who recommended the EA4 to me.Cheers, what makes it worse is that I had previous emails from customs saying it was OK to import them but when I told the customs officers that raided me they said its up to the individual officers discretion.
It wasn't the first time something like this had happened either, about 2 years earlier police broke my door down dragged me out of bed and put me in hand cuffs and made me stand outside of my apartment in my underwear and at least a dozen people walked past to see what was going on as it was in a complex of 32 apartments. They had been tipped off I was selling drugs because I was leaving and coming back "all night", I'd walk down the road twice a night to buy iced coffee from the servo and come home again. I didn't touch the stuff let alone sell it, it actually got me kicked out of those units because it was at the same time I was about to renew my lease and the owner is required to be notified of police warrants/searches and the reason why it was conducted and probably not informed of the outcome.
Either time if they just knocked like normal humans I would have just invited them in for a chat to sort it out but I think they love the power trip of going in full force and asking questions later.
…the owner is required to be notified of police warrants/searches and the reason why it was conducted…
By the police you mean?
Yeah, maybe.Well the basis for the search is a joke given people can leave there place as you did for quite legitimate reasons.
You're SA?
Don't know what the search warrant laws are there, but i have some understanding of them here and they would have trouble getting that up i'd say.In NSW search warrants are only available for certain offences, which includes drug offences.
A certain state of mind is required of the police officer seeking the warrant, namely they must:
believes on reasonable grounds that there is, or within 72 hours will be, in or on the premises a thing connected with a searchable offence in relation to the warrant
You need more than a suspicion, you need to believe, and there must be evidence to ground that belief for the warrant to be valid. I wouldn't think someone leaving and returning to a residence often would be sufficient to ground that belief.
There are other requirements, but that's the core one.
Let me know if you want me to chase up the relevant SA sections and i might if i have time, but just the sections - not enough to be especially useful…
@kurupted - how long have you had the knife? Durable?