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[Backorder] Seagate Ironwolf 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM NAS HDD £162.52 (~AU $275) Delivered @ Amazon UK

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[Backorder] Seagate Ironwolf 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM NAS HDD £162.52 (~AU $275) Delivered @ Amazon UK
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lyl on 14/12/2016 - 14:24 amazon.co.uk (2249 clicks)
Last edited 14/12/2016 - 15:55

Gee this is cheap, VAT is removed at checkout to bring the final price down. Cheapest local stock is $443+Delivery.

Make sure to select Amazon as your seller for it to deliver to Australia

  • IronWolf is an ideal companion for your NAS for 24 × 7 remote access, backups and file sharing from anywhere, making sharing ideas easy
  • Dual-plane balance and rotational vibration sensors mitigate vibration in multi-bay NAS enclosures for consistent performance and reliability
  • RAID optimisation increases performance and reliability with error recovery control for better data integrity
  • Enhanced power management saves energy and delivers power when the NAS needs it most
  • With workloads of up to 180 TB/year on IronWolf, multiple users can confidently upload and download data to a NAS server
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  • Tacooo on 14/12/2016 - 14:26

    I was about to purchase some 4TBs for $200 but now…do I upgrade all my new drives too?

    • Jack D Price on 14/12/2016 - 14:58
      +5

      You'd be stupid not to

      • Tacooo on 14/12/2016 - 15:03
        +2

        I really wish I could justify $1100 in drives. Then I think…well I'm saving $800 in the long run and it starts making sense.

        • Lukian on 14/12/2016 - 15:05

          Just buy 3 and use RAID-Z1 ? (and avoid the $1000 GST threshold)

        • Tacooo on 14/12/2016 - 15:06
          +1

          @Lukian: I'll probs just do two separate orders.

        • ruddiger7 on 14/12/2016 - 15:07
          +1

          Might also be GST charges on orders over $1000. Maybe buy 3 drives and have a second order if buying more than 3.

          Edit: Beaten to it.

        • Lukian on 14/12/2016 - 15:09
          +11
          Results: RAID 5 RAID-Z1
          Total usable storage capacity (TB): 12.00 16.00
          Total number of drives: 4 3
          Drive capacity (GB): 4000 8000
          Capacity of a single RAID group (GB): 12000 16000
          Space efficiency: 0.75 (75%) 0.6667 (66.67%)
          Fault tolerance (disk drives per RAID group): 1 1
          Single drive cost: 200 275
          Cost per TB usable: $66.67 $51.56
          Total cost: $800 $825

          Source: http://wintelguy.com/raidcalc2.pl

        • Tacooo on 14/12/2016 - 15:13

          @Lukian: I don't plan on RAIDing. Half of them are cold storage drives that will be written to every month or two. RAID is useless if you happen to get a cryptovirus on your system and right now that's my main concern more than anything else.

        • Lukian on 14/12/2016 - 15:14

          @potplanty: ZFS is crypto-virus immune due to snapshots (as can be Volume Shadow Copy and other technologies)

        • kudoz on 14/12/2016 - 15:31

          @Lukian:

          Thanks for that… been wondering wondering about a good way to calculate that!

        • Solrak on 14/12/2016 - 15:59

          @Lukian:

          How about BTRFS which uses snapshots?

        • Lukian on 14/12/2016 - 16:02
          +1

          @solrak: I wouldn't touch btrfs (for critical data) until it's several years more mature (~2024 sounds about right).
          I've personally used it briefly and found it has various problems.

          There's really no need to either, with mature well maintained filesystems like ZFS (~11 years stable) or even XFS (~22 years stable).
          btrfs has only been marked as 'stable' for about 2 years.

          Example: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Btrfs-Dat…

        • macca on 14/12/2016 - 16:13

          @Lukian: FYI - Some Cryptos are now targeting shadow copies. Offline backup is your only sure fire cure for crypto

        • Lukian on 14/12/2016 - 16:14

          @macca: If you've got a cryptolocker virus that can log into a freebsd/freenas box, good luck to you!

        • macca on 14/12/2016 - 16:16

          @Lukian: yeah sorry was referring to your volume shadow copy reference in the context of Windows machines.

        • tessel on 14/12/2016 - 18:53

          Short term pain for long term gain. DO IT!

        • DryScissors on 14/12/2016 - 21:13

          You're not really saving in the long run, as by the time you need that additional storage, 8th drives will be even cheaper.

        • whirlpool_guy on 15/12/2016 - 15:08

          @Lukian:

          New breeds of Windows ransomeware are so cunning they know how to delete the shadow copies:

          https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/02/17/locky-ransomware…

          The chance of ransomeware targeting ZFS snapshots is very very small… but you never know ;)

    • Piranha2004 on 14/12/2016 - 15:19

      Does your NAS (if using a NAS) support 8tb drives?

  • knobbs on 14/12/2016 - 14:28

    Hey, I have had one of my drives fail recently and was looking at grabbing another (was a 1TB). I was thinking of grabbing some storage for my media/streaming PC instead as I still have more space available in my gaming PC.

    Is there much difference in this 'NAS' drive compared to normal HDDs? What extra do you get?

    $/TB how does this stack up against a normal HDD?

    • Tacooo on 14/12/2016 - 14:30

      NAS drives are designed to spin 24/7 w/o failure. If you plan on using the drive to read/write often then you're better off getting a NAS variant. If however you're only looking at it for backups and not to be accessed often then just buy the normal.

      • Diji1 on 14/12/2016 - 15:03
        -4

        NAS drives are designed to spin 24/7 w/o failure

        Something that normal drives already do sufficiently well.

        • Tacooo on 14/12/2016 - 15:05

          With a parked head and much faster sector degradation, sure. Personally, when I have 8TB of data I want to make sure it has the least chance of being lost, backups or not.

        • 4agte on 14/12/2016 - 15:11

          I would have to disagree. WD Green is probably the most common drive on the market. It parks its headers every 8 seconds. This is less than ideal for any drive in a NAS setup

        • Tacooo on 14/12/2016 - 15:23
          +1

          @4agte: Not to mention the failure rates are sky high when you're parking the head that often.

        • MissKitty on 14/12/2016 - 18:59
          +1

          @4agte: Easily fixed with a firmware hack, though in general I agree with you.

        • DrDollar on 14/12/2016 - 20:09

          It's not just about spin time… WD GREENs can indeed fail earlier than other drives if they are left on long enough due to the constant head parking. If they are powered down after periods of inactivity, that risk goes down dramatically and the WD GREEN drives can last a very long time.

          But - You are missing TLER… This is extremely important for RAID.

          If you have a WD GREEN drive (for example) suffering too long, it will likely be dropped by the RAID Controller and marked as dead with the array marked as degraded. With a NAS drive with TLER support, the drive will only spend a limited time attempting to correct the error to ensure it is not dropped from the array causing it to be marked as degraded.

          If you have multiple drives in the array without TLER support, you could easily lose your array completely simply because some drives are getting dropped prematurely whilst they attempt to correct an error (eg moving data from a bad sector).

  • Tacooo on 14/12/2016 - 14:28

    This isn't delivered. In fact, they don't even offer delivery to Australia.

    • beeawwb on 14/12/2016 - 14:33
      +5

      I've added it to my cart with an Australian address and Australian credit card and it's accepted it fine. Postage & Packing: GBP 13.70

      • atlas on 14/12/2016 - 14:34

        Yep me too

      • Tacooo on 14/12/2016 - 14:38

        That did it. Had to go through and manually find their price. Might wanna add that to the description.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/12/2016 - 18:52
          +4

          Hand in your professional licence.

  • atlas on 14/12/2016 - 14:35
    +1

    Excellent price. If I didn't already have 4 X 8tb drives i'd be jumping on this.

    • beigehornet on 14/12/2016 - 14:36
      +1

      humble brag :P

      • atlas on 14/12/2016 - 14:38
        +3

        Bragging would be including the other 4 X 4tb drives also connected… :)

        • beigehornet on 14/12/2016 - 14:44
          -2

          LOL i rather run more smaller than less larger for security in the instance one dies

        • Tacooo on 14/12/2016 - 15:10

          @beigehornet: If you have any more than 1TB of data you should have backups regardless, making size a moot point.

        • atlas on 14/12/2016 - 15:27

          @beigehornet: Well unfortunately my storage requirements keep growing, so smaller drives are not suitable.

          And for important information, I mirror and also have separate backups.

        • malouphix on 14/12/2016 - 16:52

          @atlas: What are you storing with this many TBs?

          The next Netflix?

        • xoom on 14/12/2016 - 17:58

          @malouphix: backing up the internet.

  • uccoffee on 14/12/2016 - 14:40
    +1

    does it have 5 years warranty via amazon?

  • pennyless on 14/12/2016 - 14:56

    Theres local warranty for this is Sydney right? i.e. covered by Seagate international warranty

  • go2home on 14/12/2016 - 15:12

    Bought but showing "Temporarily out of stock" on the page. Not sure when it will be delivered.

  • cyrax83 on 14/12/2016 - 15:30

    The amount of Green Western Digital drives I've had fail in my ZFS Raid array is insane. I know Green weren't designed for 24x7 Raid but it's ridicoulous. I don't think Seagate is much better as I've had one or two fail also. How do these cope?

    My Hitachi Deskstars have been running 24x7 for 5 years - no issues at all

    • icecream on 14/12/2016 - 15:42

      When you say "weren't designed for 24x7", do you mean I/O time or power-on time?

      I share similar experience on WD Green drives as you do. Seagate "power saving" drives are about the same.

      The ironwolf series has way lower RA rate. (friends working in distributor like Synnex, Ingram)

      Hitachi drives are fantastic, and surprisingly I found Samsung 7200 rpm drives are incredibly reliable, quiet, and cool.

    • leetec on 14/12/2016 - 17:12

      You make me recall the famous Blackblaze "professional" guy saying WD Green is much less faulty drive…LOL

      • DrDollar on 14/12/2016 - 19:58

        It all depends on how you intend to use the WD GREENs.

        WD GREENs are quite inexpensive. If RAID1 would suit and you are happy with having the drives power off after periods of inactivity, WD GREENs can be completely fine and will last many, many years.

        Anything other than RAID1, and you should be buying proper NAS drives.

        I've got a 24-bay custom NAS with some WD RED, some Seagate and a bunch of old WD GREENs. I've had 10 WD GREENs running in RAID1 (5 different arrays), most of them between 4 and 7 years old and in this time i've had only one fail, this was a 7 year old 2TB WD GREEN drive. This wasn't my plan, i've been waiting for them to fail to justify putting the data onto another array running WD REDs. Thankfully for my use having separate arrays is no big deal as the data is catalogued by an external software anyway.

        The WD GREENs just won't die…

        Again - For RAID1 with power saving features, they're fine. Anything else, you'll likely toast them pretty quickly especially if you have a big array requiring a rebuild.

    • whirlpool_guy on 15/12/2016 - 15:01

      Did you disable the infamous WD Green head parking with WDIDLE3.exe or similar util?

      • cyrax83 on 15/12/2016 - 15:49

        Yes. No difference - they still die

  • icecream on 14/12/2016 - 15:36

    Sorry a stupid off topic question, what's the best option to shop on Amazon UK if I have a Amazon US account? (e.g. register a new account for UK?)

    Thanks

    • lyl on 14/12/2016 - 15:46

      You can use your Amazon US account on all the other Amazons

    • kingdoofus on 14/12/2016 - 15:46
      +1

      Your Amazon US account should just work on the UK site, or at least mine works for any country.

  • bbourizk on 14/12/2016 - 15:37

    Whats a good nas for 3-4 of these…
    My current qnap 509 only supports 2tb drive capacity.

    Want to use it to back up mainly photos large raw files and few videos.

    Thanks

  • yacman on 14/12/2016 - 15:44

    any easy reliable tutorials on setting up a RAID Z1? all drives must be the same yes?

  • cyrax83 on 14/12/2016 - 15:47

    Whats the warranty? Send back to Amazon US at own cost?

    • lostn on 14/12/2016 - 23:06

      For the first year they will cover the return cost. After that you deal with Seagate yourself.

      Amazon UK I'd assume works the same way.

  • CheapBillionaire on 14/12/2016 - 15:50

    Price has changed to 262 pounds now.??

    • kudoz on 14/12/2016 - 15:53
      +1

      Change seller.

    • lyl on 14/12/2016 - 15:55
      +1

      Make sure to select Amazon as your seller for it to deliver to Australia

      • insular on 14/12/2016 - 20:49

        he's right though, it's gone up now. 229.43 without VAT at final checkout.

        before it was 148 or something. ordered 3, but i need one or two more for biggest capacity in a new server build

  • offcuts on 14/12/2016 - 15:50
    +1

    Bought 3, 155.20 pounds each delivered. Not sure but price may have dropped again, either that or the hard drive gods are smiling on me.

    Thanks alot for the post lyl, perfect timing.

    • kudoz on 14/12/2016 - 15:53
      +1

      Ah… you sure? The basic price still showing is 178.58 pounds…

      Gut feeling is this is a pricing error anyway.

      Didn't accidentally select the 4TB ones did you?

    • lyl on 14/12/2016 - 15:55
      +1

      Nah price hasn't dropped, you save on postage costs if you bought more than 1

      • kudoz on 14/12/2016 - 16:00
        +1

        lol, my bad… yes I paid the same as offcuts!

  • Wally Simmonds on 14/12/2016 - 15:50

    This can not be delivered to Australia?

  • Saiya on 14/12/2016 - 15:53

    Wowzers great deal! Very tempting!

  • Simonh on 14/12/2016 - 15:54

    When i try to buy this it says they don't deliver to Australia ?

    Cheers for any help guys

    • lyl on 14/12/2016 - 15:55
      +2

      Make sure to select Amazon as your seller for it to deliver to Australia

      • Simonh on 14/12/2016 - 16:02

        Dumb question how do i do that?

        Thanks

        • lyl on 14/12/2016 - 16:04
          +1

          Just click on the large 'add to basket' on the right sidebar.

          Many people make the mistake of selecting another seller from the sidebar

    • Wally Simmonds on 14/12/2016 - 16:03

      Try again, was temporarily out of stock.

  • Danthemanz on 14/12/2016 - 15:55

    Ordered one, greaaaat….
    As if i needed another disk….lol

  • Solrak on 14/12/2016 - 15:56
    +1

    Sweet bought 2 at 148 quid each plus 16 quid delivery (Approx $530 AUD) on backorder.

  • aristocrat on 14/12/2016 - 15:59

    Thank you OP for the post. I've been waiting on a deal like this for months after I bought an HP microserver. Was waiting for some NAS drive deals. Pulled the trigger on 2 and paid in GBP. With Amazon conversion rate in AUD would be $551, but if I paid in GBP and convert this via my bank, I get charged 3.2% international conversion fee, that leads to a total of $547.74. Save a couple of bucks but will get 1.5QFF points per dollar spent.

    • go2home on 14/12/2016 - 16:05
      +4

      You need a 28 degree card. Every "Ozbarger" has that.

      • Lukian on 14/12/2016 - 16:07
        +1

        No, every ozbargainer uses Bankwest Zero, Citibank or Coles(limited-offer) Debit Mastercards.

        28degrees has a BPAY fee these days ;)

        • vicerum on 14/12/2016 - 16:40

          Why is that a problem? You can pay through the website and it gets debited directly from your bank account. It even remembers your BSB and account number so all you need to do is enter the dollar amount to pay.

        • Lukian on 14/12/2016 - 16:59

          @vicerum: You can pay every other Australian CC (afaik) via a central interface (BPAY) in your internet banking. Having to login elsewhere is hassle that some people don't want :)

        • vicerum on 14/12/2016 - 17:00

          @Lukian: But it actually saves me clicks this way. I genuinely think its quicker and easier to pay this way rather than BPAY.

          Also, what are the chances other banks start implementing these BPAY fees in the next year or two? :(

        • nfr on 15/12/2016 - 00:05

          I didn't notice until now, I guess they are the $0.95 payment handling fees?

      • aristocrat on 14/12/2016 - 16:08

        I will have to apply for one. A bit late this time. Thanks a lot.

      • Simonh on 14/12/2016 - 16:08

        Would you pay in GBP? Or AU dollar?
        Thanks

        • Lukian on 14/12/2016 - 16:08

          Purchase currency because no conversion fees (other than the mastercard rate).

        • vicerum on 14/12/2016 - 17:06

          Always pay in GBP (or USD if on Amazon US). This avoids the currency conversion which costs you more. It's not huge but it's there.

  • ChatCPT on 14/12/2016 - 16:11
    +2

    is it ok to get mechanical drives delivered like this? i imagine SSDs can handle some rough treatment but a single mechanical drive in the hands of courier :o

    • icecream on 14/12/2016 - 16:25
      +1

      Er… yeah, I read you, reseller posting to consumer is the highest risk, smallest parcel, high chance of throwing.

      You feel secure grabbing it from display shelf. But, from factory > distributor > Reseller > consumer, there are plenty chance thing can go wrong. Bigger box, bigger mass, more damaging impact.

      It's like flipping a coin, to trust or not to trust.

    • sengork on 14/12/2016 - 16:25

      The less travel it does in individual (non-bulk) packaging, the better.

    • 4agte on 14/12/2016 - 16:32

      While any additional freight isn't ideal I have ordered a number of drives overseas without issue. I always test the drives when they arrive and if I do have any issues Amazons warranty is supposed to be great.

      However, what makes you think these drives have had harder travels than those at the local pc store?

      • ChatCPT on 14/12/2016 - 16:35
        +1

        pc stores have them delivered in manufacturer packaging in pallets - strong single mass
        individual hard drive carried like a rugby ball thrown about by auspost/courier?

    • leetec on 14/12/2016 - 17:50

      It's all depend on how they packed it, and most case is not enough for international travel, doesn't mean definitely faulty but much higher chance though. Distributor's packing is already design for tough transport so not a problem.

  • inusure on 14/12/2016 - 16:19

    silly question: I can use this hdd just to store movies, documents and music as normal drive? I dont know what NAS is and I dont run RAID, so when i saw "IronWolf is an ideal companion for your NAS for 24 × 7 remote access", i dont know what does it mean.

    regards

    • Skramit on 14/12/2016 - 16:24

      To answer your question as simply as possible: Yes this is a normal HDD.

      As long as your PC motherboard can support 8TB drives - which it should if it's less than 7 or 8 years old and has UEFI BIOS. :)

      • Homr on 14/12/2016 - 18:07

        Hey Skramit,

        My motherboard is a GA-890GPA. Will it support 4TB or 8TB hard drive??

        Thanks.

        • Skramit on 14/12/2016 - 18:25

          Not sure. Doesn't look like a UEFI BIOS on that board. What's the biggest HDD you already have running on it?

        • Homr on 14/12/2016 - 18:36

          @Skramit: 2TB

          I've ordered the 4TB HD from PLE but haven't installed that yet. Hopefully that will work. I totally forgot to check if my MB is compatible with such larger drives :(

        • Skramit on 14/12/2016 - 19:19

          @HarveySpecter:

          Testing my memory now but I recall 2.1TB is max for non uefi mother boards.

          Worst case, you have use the 4TB in an external USB enclosure if your mb doesn't support it. USB should be fine.

          Just make sure u update your mb bios to the latest. I have a feeling you'll be fine based on a quick google of your mb

        • Homr on 14/12/2016 - 22:20

          @Skramit: I've installed the 4TB hard drive now and it works perfectly :D

    • some_one_some_where on 14/12/2016 - 16:24

      Network Attached Storage. You can store any thing that can work on a computer onto it. Hope that helps.

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